Creality K1 Max - Not a Review!

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I just bought a Creality K1 Max and I wanted to test it out, so I figured it might not be a bad idea to show it printing a high speed benchy side by side with a Bambu X1C. This video really isn't a comparison or a product review, but more of an explanation why I ended up buying it and how I see it fitting into my 3d printing workflow. The X1C is nice, but I want something a bit bigger and I'm curious if the K1 Max will serve my purposes. Listen to me ramble and try to justify my purchasing decision!
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00:00 Intro
01:16 Pre-Sliced Benchys
03:38 Visibility!
05:15 Why Creality K1 Max?!
06:09 Voron?
07:08 Why Creality?
09:08 Sleeper or Stinker?
10:56 Benchy Test Observations
12:15 Sound Comparisons
14:27 A Perfect Printer Doesn't Exist
17:27 Finishing Up
19:01 Benchy Comparison and Conclusion

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  • @_B_K_
    @_B_K_6 ай бұрын

    I treated myself to an early Christmas present and bought X1C during Black Friday sales -- what a wonderful machine. This is my first 3D printer and I've been using it almost daily since I got it. That said, it was a very difficult decision, since you're right.... K1 Max has such polarizing reviews, but it has an unbeatable value proposition. In the end, it was the AMS that tipped things towards X1C for me and I'm glad that I got it. I might get K1 Max next year, if Bambu Lab doesn't come out with a larger variant (I have a lot of projects I want to get done, so having two printers will be helpful).

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, they are very different printers. The K1 Max might come close, but the X1C is going to be the better printer, unless you need the bigger build volume.

  • @PYROWORKSTV
    @PYROWORKSTV5 ай бұрын

    Really loving my X1CC The active noise canceling that's been released recently is quite a game changer! Finally fast and silent printing ❤❤

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's a good printer. I used it side by side with the Creality this weekend and the update does help. It's not more in line with the Creality in terms of motor noise. It was pretty loud before.

  • @AndyBlackman
    @AndyBlackman6 ай бұрын

    I bought a K1 MAX back in August and have been happy with it. This is my first non-entry level machine. The only PIA is the nozzle changing. But, I see micro-swiss has a solution for that. I did have a jam where I had to remove the up to the heat block; never really figured out why but, it hasn't happened again. I am not in love with their slicer; however, it is good enough for my use case (prototype, jigs). The mods I have done thus far are the door latches so the door swings open fully. The riser (for the bowden tube). And the side spool mount because of where its located.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Nice! I just rooted it (after this video was done) and have been tweaking the software. I need to make some changes, but then I'll start using it 'for real'.

  • @BeefIngot

    @BeefIngot

    6 ай бұрын

    With Creality I think the general deal is that you nevwr use their software, you just say thank you for the cheap hatdware and use something better. between Orca, and Super Slicer there is a lot of choice aimed at speed enthusiasts.

  • @andrewklug4845
    @andrewklug48456 ай бұрын

    Great channel! Which do you prefer the K1Max or Prusa XL ?

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    They are completely different printers. If I only had to keep one, it would be the XL, hands down, no question. It's better in every way, except for speed.

  • @BeefIngot

    @BeefIngot

    6 ай бұрын

    I see all the problems the XL has but even with those I think the answer would still be pretty clear with it. Multi filament, like true multi filament is like 3.5d printing.

  • @elchavode6479

    @elchavode6479

    6 ай бұрын

    ​A few are having problems with XL. My XL had a problem, but that was due to me making errors in my assembly where I didn't tighten a few bolts correctly. Once I fix the minor issue, it has been a workhorse for about a month.

  • @Bigelowbrook
    @Bigelowbrook6 ай бұрын

    I have the X1C and love it. I have two other FDM printers and this is now my primary unit. I recently put a .2mm nozzle in it and it does a great job....good enough where I can generate prototype prints for some of my customers where I don't have to run a job through any of my resin printers. I don't have a Creality so I can't do a comparison.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    They're great machines, but different. The Bambu is better for beginners or people that might not want to do strange things or use different slicers, etc. It's a more locked ecosystem, but a well-tuned printer.

  • @Bigelowbrook

    @Bigelowbrook

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY agreed. I have one printer that was a kit using an arduino. I was sick of trying to fine-tune it all the time, and then when there was an upgrade it took a lot of time to recompile the software to work with the machine. Another printer I have is the Anycubic Mega. It was cheap but has a large platforms. All proprietary hardware but it gets the job done. I don't mind the Bambu being all proprietary since the replacement parts are available and inexpensive. Being locked in to their slicer is a minus, but it's does a good job overall. I like the remote access and print upload and monitoring....no screwing around with a Pi to hack something into working.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BigelowbrookOh boy, those are some really strange printers. Arduino is not at all suited for those applications! Bambu is running roughly the same software as the K1, it's just that you have access to tweak and tune. That's what I was looking for, so I got what I wanted. I've actually purchased 2 Bambus this month alone as gifts for others. I still like them, but each printer has its application. Glad you like your X1C!

  • @3dpathfinder
    @3dpathfinder5 ай бұрын

    I got mine a few days ago, and love it. Prints fantastic and fast easily as fast as the P1S. The prints are easily as good and in some cases better. Micro Swiss sent me their Hotend Upgrade and its going on soon.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    Nice! So far mine has been pretty good. I'm tempted to do the micro swiss upgrade too, but I'm going to use it and see what I'm missing first.

  • @boitmecklyn4995
    @boitmecklyn49953 ай бұрын

    I am looking to change from the anycubic vyper to a fast core xy printer and the k1 max looks like it fits the bill.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's alright. The print quality is just 'meh', but everything else is decent. Just don't expect perfect print quality.

  • @wk5199
    @wk51995 ай бұрын

    Do you have the latest firmware on the X1C? They added active motor noise cancellation like the A1.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    I'd have to check. Thanks for letting me know!

  • @crashkg
    @crashkg6 ай бұрын

    You have a good setup for filming your prints. I have a camera pointed at my printer but the motion blur of the bedslinger is problematic. I have the Prusa MK4, trying to find a good option for recording. Thanks

  • @BeefIngot

    @BeefIngot

    6 ай бұрын

    I dont know what size camera or printer you have, but if you get a nice hefty mount, you could mount the camera to the bed. I did that at one time for time lapses but eventually gave up because I kept breaking the arm when walking by 😂

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately the filming setup was ONLY for this video, everything is getting moved into its final spot. The problem with filming is that YOU want to be where the camera should go. It's hard always having a camera directly in front of the printer, because that means the door is open (much louder) and you can't really see inside yourself.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Ha, yeah. My camera is pretty heavy and would bend the bed. I'm going to try and make a gopro mount for them though, I need to show more print footage.

  • @lindseyjohnson1130
    @lindseyjohnson11306 ай бұрын

    It does look like the Bambu is a slightly larger model, kinda explains the add time. Thanks for your videos. What ever happened to the industrial dumpster dive printer that you were working on a number of years ago?

  • @Basement_CNC

    @Basement_CNC

    6 ай бұрын

    they are the exact same size ive tried, its just that the k1max is larger, wich makes the benchy look smaller and the one from the k1 is heavier by 1.34 gramms when i printed both

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    They the exact same, it's just the camera angle. The Stratasys has been gone for years. It was a great machine, but modern stuff has surpassed it dramatically in the past few years. It's a dinosaur now.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Correct, it's just the camera angle, but the K1 is heavier, meaning more material was put into it in ~10% less time.

  • @box420
    @box4204 ай бұрын

    Iv got a k1 max upgrade from a moded ender 3 and have been blow away from the speed and quality. What would take days is now a few hours on my ender. My ender to get quality you had to print 50-70 mm now i print at 300mm on my k1 max. Iv had a few hickups with it but i think its mostly due to creality Slicer.

  • @nicholascarver1
    @nicholascarver15 ай бұрын

    I noticed the presliced benchy on the k1 max is .25mm layer heights.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    Ah, that makes sense.

  • @tslayer2945
    @tslayer29456 ай бұрын

    I'm new to 3D printing so found this video informative. I also bought the K1 Max on Black Friday for $650 at Microcenter store. Thought it sounded like a good deal and for a beginner. So far happy with it. Just wish you could change nozzle height and flow rate from touch screen. At least I don't think it does 🤔

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, you can't change a whole lot from the screen. I rooted mine and the control through the klipper interface is MUCH nicer. So far I'm liking it though!

  • @tslayer2945

    @tslayer2945

    6 ай бұрын

    @RobertCowanDIY Nice! Does that void the warranty though? Also since you rooted it does it give you the adjustments to nozzle height and flow rate? Sorry new to all this.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    @@tslayer2945It DOES void the warranty, but at any time you can revert back to 'stock'. It gives you access to EVERYTHING. Here's a video I found that goes over everything. It really turns the printer into something MUCH more advanced, but that's what I was looking for. It unlocks everything and lets you really dial things is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWWD1Y-YY5jLgrQ.htmlsi=Pi6KeGbrddHCCc4J

  • @Walt1119
    @Walt11196 ай бұрын

    Good video, I enjoyed the content and the "non-comparison".. I studied the K1 and the P1S for a LONG time and when the black friday sale hit that was the final swing towards the K1 Max. I felt that the difference in pricing was enough to do that. Now, I think the Max is a pretty incredible machine, but like everyone else the Creality Print slicer is their downfall. I have used it with some success and some not so good prints. I've also used the Orca slicer and feel it is far superior to creality print. Much better features and easier, with 2 issues, one is after using the Creality Print, I hate transferring files on the usb stick instead of just transferring them and the machine starting to print, second, the prints I get on Orca are always slower (more print time) than CP, I've tested this many times. So far I'm a bit scared of trying to root the max and use the Klipper tools, I wish that Creality would come up with a "canned" way of doing it so as to not risk bricking the machine. Thanks again for sharing the video with us!! Great channel!!

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    ha, thanks! I wanted to try something different. I actually just rooted the machine yesterday, it was pretty straightforward. There are great tutorials and helper scripts now. I'd say it took maybe 2 hours total to get it rooted, get everything installed and get back to printing. I also moved over to orcaslicer (never actually used creality print!) and I can send files wirelessly and monitor the printer remotely and with mobile, without an app (only on my own network for now). I'm printing some functional parts and the speed is nice and it's perfectly accurate for what I'm using it for.

  • @TeamJunkYardDog
    @TeamJunkYardDog6 ай бұрын

    I bought the same one on the same deal! Had a few issues but worked them out.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, so far I'm liking it. It's not as refined as my other printers (for filament loading you just heat up the nozzle and jam it in there!), but it's doing the thing. It's quick, big, and cheap. That's what I wanted.

  • @ame7165
    @ame71655 ай бұрын

    dang, the only creality i've had was dead silent, so i was hoping the k1 would be as well, but i guess not this one i picked up an a1 mini out of curiosity (for $430 including 4 color ams, it felt crazy not to try it). i have to say, after trying to print anything it's able to handle over the weekend over my x1c's, i really like it alot. the smaller bed isn't a problem like 90% of the time. the extruder is so much better. being able to swap nozzles without tools in like 10 seconds is epic. it's not exactly hard on the x1c's, but that requires tools and risking breaking 3 cables/connectors/sensors, and if you cheap out and buy only the nozzle and not the assembly, you have to swap the fan off the old one too. big pain and not something i'd do before a print. but on the mini, being literally a 10 second job with no tools, i have swapped a few times now. it's so awesome. oh and the ams is way improved. the only way it's worse is the form factor. it's a bit large. but i can use cardboard spools and prusament and just about any filament i throw at. it's also faster to load by quite a bit. the filaments converge right above the extruder so when it changes filament it only retracts just a little ways past that point, instead of all the way back to the spool like in the x1c's ams. and i can't tell you how many times i've had to take apart the ams on my x1c's. with like 3+ filament sensors, i kept getting errors about filament not retracting correctly, and it often required disassembly of ams to fix. the a1's ams is super simple so there's almost no chance you'd ever need to do anything with it. i haven't tried it but i have a feeling for a multi color print, it might be a bit faster than the x1c's. oh and it's dead silent. i'd say it's about on par with my prusa mk3. and being quiet, it made me consider the non-mini a1, as i mostly print pla, as i'm lazy and it's just easy and fast, and the non-enclosed a1 would be fine for pla. if i go that route i'd probably sell my two x1c's and replace them with a single x1 enterprise (assuming it has the same hot swap nozzle system like the mini). and of course they're still doing a combo deal that includes a few rolls of filament and other goodies so i'm really tempted. i really wanted to build a voron, but i think at this point i'm enjoying not messing with the printers and just printing but anyway, thanks for the review. you're one of a small group that i trust for such information. if you ever find a way to make it less noisy, let us know! it looks like killer value

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    High speed printers (especially enclosed) are different animals. They require tons of cooling (and fan noise) to keep the part cool while printing. The A1 mini does seem nice, but I like having larger printers for some dumb reason. And thanks for the compliment!

  • @MrGsking12
    @MrGsking126 ай бұрын

    Did you measure both of the banshees the bamboo looks a little shorter

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    They are the same, it's just the camera angle.

  • @llkurofoxll1013
    @llkurofoxll10136 ай бұрын

    Where do you think you landed in the quality control lottery for this K1?

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    I think I got lucky. I just rooted it and am tuning it, going to try another benchy with everything tuned properly. I have high hopes? But the bed could be a bit more level, but my X1C isn't all that level. (and many of them aren't).

  • @BeefIngot

    @BeefIngot

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY You should have other people order their printers through you just for the extra luck. A good K1, good XL, and decent enough X1C, you just don't get lemons.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BeefIngotRight?! I think the X1C is the one printer that isn't all that great. It's fine, but I don't like the hype and most of the features are marketing. But yeah, I seem to get lucky. The K1 Max is happily printing away and the parts are spot-on.

  • @skelethornbro
    @skelethornbro5 ай бұрын

    I can see that x1c is busy checking something before the first layer then it do it again after cleaning its nozzle just after the first layer. Maybe that will add up to the total printing time. Wonder if user can skip all that and print immediately.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    You can't really skip this step, which is annoying. It also doesn't actually work correctly when using the textured build plate. It goes through the motions, but doesn't actually detect anything. That being said, it was an extra 10 seconds on a ~19 minute print, it didn't really make a difference.

  • @skelethornbro

    @skelethornbro

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIYif that so then it seems that their extra tech is just a gimmick at the extra money. Why do so many people fall for this trap. Luckily I didn't throw my ender 3 yet. Lol.

  • @ashleys3dprintshop

    @ashleys3dprintshop

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes you can run faster startup code and shave off a few minutes. Look up "speed up Bambu lab printer" or "minimalistic custom g code start for Bambu x1" Takes less than a min to setup and does make a difference in startup times.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@skelethornbroWell, that's the problem. SOME of it is a gimmick and SOME of it is actually real. That's why I'm not a big fan of Bambu. They're a marketing company that just happens to have a really good product. But most of it is marketing. However, it can still out-print most of what's on the market right now.

  • @Engineerd3d
    @Engineerd3d6 ай бұрын

    I have the normal K1. I have to say the hot end on the creality is a bit lacking. I am waiting on microswiss hot end. Also my k1 under extrudes a bit. Slowly tuning the slicer for it. I don’t mind creality print. Basically cura.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Ah, do you have the new or older extruder? I've heard the newer one is much better and so far it's easily as capable as the Bambu.

  • @Engineerd3d

    @Engineerd3d

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY I am not sure it’s the older extruder. I can say that with normal PLA it simply does not flow enough, and I had a fairly nasty clog also. The microswiss came today.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Engineerd3dIf the 'engage' lever on the extruder is shiny, you have the old one. If it's more of a brushed/matte look, you have the new one. Creality will upgrade your extruder if it's the old one. I have no problem going faster than my X1C, sometimes 150% faster.

  • @Engineerd3d

    @Engineerd3d

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY I will check the lever. If the lever is shiny I will send an email to creality. Thank you for the info.

  • @Arcadenut1
    @Arcadenut16 ай бұрын

    Which Camera did you get?

  • @BeefIngot

    @BeefIngot

    6 ай бұрын

    It was weird he didn't mention it. I was expecting a small camera tour, but that remains a mystery. Its always interesting to see how basically every tuber eventually becomes a camera geek, even if they dont want to.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Ha. I actually started out in photography (as a hobby) way before KZread. I kinda ditched everything, then got back into a little bit, then just swapped everything out recently.

  • @AndyRC
    @AndyRC5 ай бұрын

    I did the same. Lol. I saw the crazy deals on the k1 and couldn't resist. I now have 4 printers. Lol

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    Ha! How do you like it? I've had mine printing since I got it and so far it's been great. It does have some small artifacts here and there, but for larger functional prototypes, this is perfectly fine.

  • @ZappyOh
    @ZappyOh5 ай бұрын

    Does anybody know if Creality is working on some kind of multi-material add-on? I want a K1Max, but I NEED multi material.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    I haven't heard anything. I actually just got an email from them, I'll ask and see what they say. Why not Bambu?

  • @ZappyOh

    @ZappyOh

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY I don't like Bambu's cloud-thingy ... They should change name from BambuLab to CloudTrap :) Besides, I need the extra print-volume as well. Even the 300mm is a bit small for my taste.

  • @edenrabian1337

    @edenrabian1337

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY its 2 times the price in my country, thats a huge drawback for me

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@edenrabian1337 Oh, wow. Creality is cheaper?

  • @edenrabian1337

    @edenrabian1337

    5 ай бұрын

    @RobertCowanDIY well obviously, I absolutely hate their app, but I use an sd card anyways so it doesn't bother me, and I get Apple vibes from bambu , people are obsessing over it

  • @magomat6756
    @magomat67565 ай бұрын

    i would love that you play with the root for the creality K1K1 max . i have a K1 in a few days it will come from Germany. So i looking out to those video's from you.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    I may or may not make a video on it. I like having the extra interface and options, but it really didn't 'do' a whole lot. The printer is pretty reliable and fast. BUT, the quality isn't all that great, it has a lot of banding and VFAs. But it's good for prototyping, for now.

  • @magomat6756

    @magomat6756

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY I love your approach on things.Thats why I love your content. Its not all that loud you should do this or that.No its your opinion based on your experience.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@magomat6756Aw, thanks. I just try to make videos that I would want to watch. When someone instantly starts the video with an over-the-top persona, I click away.

  • @The2010designer
    @The2010designer6 ай бұрын

    Interesting video, I can understand the preoccupation with speed for a commercial rapid prototyping business, but being a home hobbyist, speed isn't my priority - print quality and reliability is. I often print overnight. I've looked at the latest printers, and I will upgrade - when my Ender-3 gives up the ghost! - high speed, touch screen, wi-fi, auto levelling, all very nice - but NONE of them guarantee better quality!

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    For sure. I got the creality with the intention of modding it and upgrading it over time. With the Bambu, there are very few things to 'tweak', which is fine. They're just different machines. I've found the K1 to be perfectly reliable, but it could have better print quality.

  • @stevecruztube
    @stevecruztube6 ай бұрын

    i'd like to see you swap the gcode and reprint.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Huh, interesting. I might try that. I also thought of slowing the K1 down by 10% to be more in the speed range of the bambu. So far it's working fine, but does require a bit of tweaking.

  • @joslynjordan3818
    @joslynjordan38186 ай бұрын

    I bought the K1 Max and a P1S during Black Friday sales. I cant seem to get consistent prints on the K1 max and the VFA is pretty bad. I haven't rooted it yet, but honestly I really shouldn't have to. I'm not a Bambu fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. Still not a fan of the closed ecosystem but it does work and it puts out good prints without a lot of hassle or tuning. Creality should have spent more time tuning the K1 Max and developing good profiles with Orca or Prusa slicer and not wasting time with Creality Print. I really want to like the K1 Max. I got it for a little over $500, but if I cant get it to produce quality prints soon, its getting returned. My buddy got his the same day as i got mine and he's having the same issues. He's rooted, running Fluidd and still not any better than my prints.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, there seems to be a "K1 lottery". Wait, you got the Max for $500?! That doesn't seem right, are you SURE you have the max, not the K1? And are you sure you have the new extruder? The old extruder was apparently very flawed and caused lots of issues. Mine has been pretty much fine so far and I'm printing some functional parts and they all fit as expected. I immediately rooted it and went with orca slicer and it's working great. The P1S is a hard one to beat though, it's more geared towards beginners and closed ecosystem as you said. Both have their place, but I wanted the larger size.

  • @joslynjordan3818

    @joslynjordan3818

    6 ай бұрын

    @RobertCowanDIY Haha. I'm positive it's K1 Max. They had a short window during Black Friday on Amazon they were $553 with 4 rolls of Creality filament. Amazon charges them separately, so the printer ended up being $511 and the filament was $42. It was posted in the 3dprint deals Facebook group. It has the new extruder. I just got in the Microswiss hotend today. I don't mind closed ecosystems as long as they work. Bambu is far from perfect, but it does work well. As far as how well built they are and reliability over the years, that's TBD. I'm far from a Newby when it comes to printing. It's like you said, getting a good K1 Max is like playing the lottery. They really mailed it in, when it came to Quality Control. My printer was missing hardware for the door. The belt tension was way off, it couldn't print a decent circle. Kept printing ovals. The VFA was horrendous. I really want to like it. Been working on it since I got it. Running different profiles, making my own. Tuning different filaments. It's just not consistent. The hardware is all there, the lidar seems gimmicky though.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@joslynjordan3818Wow, that's a great price then, absolutely worth trying it out. I rooted mine shortly after this video and the process was quite easy. I still get some ringing and artifacts, but I can easily print faster than the Bambu and if I end up upgrading the extruder and hotened, it could be a really neat machine. So far it's great for just printing out fast proof-of-concept prints.

  • @joslynjordan3818

    @joslynjordan3818

    5 ай бұрын

    @RobertCowanDIY I have the Microswiss hotend but haven't installed it yet. The reason I didn't root mine was to see if it really made a difference, and so far, it hasn't. My buddy rooted his, and he's still having VFA and rining also. Mine actually seems to be a bit better than his. Even the people in the K1 groups that are rooted still have ringing and VFA issues, which means it's more of a hardware problem than software. I know speed and temperature make a difference also. I've been running PLA at 210-215 and prints at about 240-250mm and it helps some. I've seen some people that have upgraded to the Orbiter v2 extruder and have had great results.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@joslynjordan3818Yeah, we're on the same page. I only rooted it for 'quality of life' improvements. For ringing and VFA, I'll probably upgrade the extruder/hot-end or wait for people to further tweak the input shaping.

  • @Joshua11Saragih
    @Joshua11Saragih2 ай бұрын

    Damn is it really normal speed?

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    Ай бұрын

    well, not really. it's a 'pre-sliced' model, so they're doing some tricks. But BOTH printers are doing the same tricks. It's optimized for the model.

  • @BeefIngot
    @BeefIngot6 ай бұрын

    About the sound of the printers, and I already made one hell of a long comment, and don't really know why im basically live blogging at a youtube video... but, Bambulabs stepper setup is actually really interesting. Like its certainly not quiet, but interesting. One thing people miss about their printers, and I find theres a lot of really cool details like this with Bambulab because they actually engineer vs other companies from the region IMO, is that the stepper drivers are "software defined" in a way. That's to say they literally have an MCU controlling the individual steps and fractional steps, which I believe is what has allowed them to make minor tweaks over time, and what enables that noise cancelling on the A1. That's the sort of thing you likely wouldn't see from an incumbent, because all they've ever known is 3d printers and you just buy a trinamic, everyone knows that! Also on a separate note though, my printer has been great, but I absolutely would not sit beside it while printing noise wise. That thing would make me jump out of my seat way too many times with all the random clangs, bangs, and whirs. Sounds like a whole person in a workshop in a machine that could fit on your lap. Like, I don't want to dog on it too much, because I really do love mine, and its been great (literally I think 1 part change in over a year of ownership, and it was my fault. Pro tip, do not pause and insert magnets into your prints if your printhead is magnetic.........))., but boy could they improve the sound profile, maybe with some insulation on the sides, but I guess they really were going after that space efficiency. Still something I'd like to see changed whenever the next X1 tier comes along.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Hum, I have my doubts here... that just sounds like another name for microstepping. interesting though.

  • @BeefIngot
    @BeefIngot6 ай бұрын

    Ok, I swear its my last comment, but that end bit with the Bambulab doing the smoke stack made me realize what you probably hear so much little noises for: It's actually a rather clever thing that you actually covered in a previous video (apart from the software defined stepper drivers which right now are far from quiet, and probably wont ever really be quiet). It's the little swirl thing that helped you with stringing on the XL. The thing where when the nozzle stops flowing and its time to move to the next part of the print, it does little swirls as it lifts the head up. The K1, wasnt doing that, and the Bambulab was. I now wonder how different they would sound without that, especially given that with a little print like that, youll be hearing a lot more of those fast little swoops which will sound a lot more abrupt than the simple z up and z down of traditional layer/island switches.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    MAYBE, I am aware of that little z-hop thing they do. This I suspect is actually skipping in the extruder. I didn't put in any audio from it because I really don't want to get into the discussion with any fan-boys, but with the in-fill it's absolutely skipping steps and missing quite a bit of filament in places. Overall it looks better, but the interior structure is really sloppy. Also, this was my third attempt with the Bambu, the first two failed and the lidar didn't catch it.

  • @BeefIngot

    @BeefIngot

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RobertCowanDIY Interesting observation. It does indeed have a lower max volumetric flow so I could believe that. Sounds reasonabke even, especially if it stop making the noise ehen doing high speed at a lower flow. Maybe both things are true. Hard to know without testing. It also makes me wonder where the higher flow hotend variant their ceo hinted at is. This fan is a bigger fan of knowing the truth. I guess I could always test it myself if I wasnt lazy 😅 I used to go pretty mad with printer upgrades and tests, but I think that largely because I previously felt forced to, more recently I've been in the mindset of "I just want the part fast and without fuss".

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BeefIngotFor sure. That's why I did this video instead of a 'review'. I just kinda want to get back to making stuff, but it was fun playing with the camera. I'm making something with it right now and it's working great (as I said in my other comment to you. I'm happy with it so far.

  • @BeefIngot
    @BeefIngot6 ай бұрын

    2:45 "5 or 10 years ago, watching a benchy being made would be horrible because, you know", - itd.... potentially light your house on fire, back when it was somehow acceptable and normal to turn off protections.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Ha, right? The old ANet A10s! We've come a long way.

  • @Joshua11Saragih
    @Joshua11Saragih2 ай бұрын

    Hella fast

  • @filetdelumiere5037
    @filetdelumiere50376 ай бұрын

    The test should have been done with two real designs, not a optimized benchy...

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    Oh, I mention multiple times that pre-sliced benchies aren't great for tests. It's just showing that both machines can push that much filament, that's all. I agree with you, but it's not a 'test', it's just me trying to figure out if the K1 is crap or not.

  • @tabhinton6678
    @tabhinton66786 ай бұрын

    The K1 Max is junk. My prints are 3mm off over the 300mm bed. That means my parts won't go together. Creality customer service is no help at all. They have no knowledge about this machine. And all of these reviewers do is print useless benches and never check the machine accuracy. Their reviews are useless.

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    OK, that's REALLY strange. Printers should be able to do that easily. I'm printing some functional stuff right now and they're dead-on as I would expect from a modern printer. 3mm over 300mm is really odd. But I can assure you, I'm actually using it and printing functional parts with it and they're all fitting. They're even snap-in place with pretty tight tolerances. Do you have the old or the new extruder?

  • @tabhinton6678

    @tabhinton6678

    6 ай бұрын

    Received my K1 Max 3 weeks ago

  • @Beecher_Dikov

    @Beecher_Dikov

    5 ай бұрын

    Funny...all the bambulabs reviews do exactly the same thing...print benchies. Are those reviews useless too?

  • @RobertCowanDIY

    @RobertCowanDIY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Beecher_DikovThere are thousands of reviews of the Bambu printers and not all just print benchies. Many are printing real parts. Also, even thought he surface finish/quality isn't great on my parts, they've all been dimensionally spot-on, as I'm using it for a large scale project that requires pretty decent tolerances. Being off by 3mm sounds really strange.

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