Your review was the one that helped me decide on the Ender 5, Mine comes tomorrow and I've just watched this review again for the 12th time in about 3 months lol I think I'll be pretty well prepared for this! Thanks Michael

Great quality review as always, thanks for the info.

You do the very best 3d printer reviews bar none !!!!!! Thanks for your efforts...

Thanks for your review!

This, (along with a few other videos of yours) was such a really well structured and informative review. The pace and information given, was perfect for someone like me, who is familiar with the 3D printer concept, but now, in a place where I can possibly own one. I quickly came to the conclusion that the ender 3 is highly regarded, and after a few other reviews from other brands and that amazing model breakdown at the beginning of this video, I'm going to move forward with the ender 5. Ill just save up the extra cashing go for it, thank you. liked and subscribed

Great review Michael. Thank you

Thank you for this clear revieuw.... i was thinking of buying a ender 3 pro, but now i’m in for the ender 5

Every video I've watched of yours has been really informative and well put together. Thank you

Awesome video. I was going to be getting an Ender3 Pro as my first 3D printer, but this video changed my mind to the Ender5.

Another good review Michael-keep up the good work

OMG legend! As soon as I saw the Ender 5 release I knew it would be quite a decent reliable step up on the Ender 3 and ur findings back my thoughts. Def on my list to get a second E3 then and E5 for myself! Thanks heaps

cool -- love the reviews

Once again. Awesome review. Thank you 🙏

Thanks for the review. Still thinking about buying one...

Thank you for this great review!

Great video, nicely put together and no time wasting

great review as usual. many thanks will consider this

Nice review as always!

excellent review

Outstanding review !

Nice summary. I like the chart showing the various Creality printers. The CR-10 Mini though is typically $50 less than CR-10. Right now its $339 at Creality and $349 on Amazon.

Great video l have the ender 3 and still learning

0:52 This is a great video, but I REALLY LOVE THIS GRAPHIC.

I liked your review very much.

if you havent already can you do an updated video like this. I like your point of views and the way you explain things. Im hoping to get into 3dprinting for the long haul and want to start off with something like the ender3 or 5. But dont know which may be better and how much i can upgrade either of them. I apreciate your videos and i appreciate any input.

Love that you use X3D. The guys at the Perth warehouse are awesome.

Great review.

Thanks again for your Honest Review bro

Thanks Michael. Good info as always. Cheers, JAYTEE

I cancelled my ender 3 pro order and changed ot this after seeing the video (this will be my second printer) and it arrives today - so excited and can't wait for your upgrade videos

@Sulaiman-ng9er

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Antony, So how is it so far?

so many choices. I currently have MP Select Mini V2 and looking at getting second printer with bigger print bed so I was looking at the ender 3 originally until the pro version came out and I figured I would likely go with that one. Since I'm getting closer to getting enough for the printer I started looking around some more and someone mentioned the CR20, it was a little more then the pro, easier to assemble and just looked like a upgraded version of the pro so I was pretty much settled on that one. Now in the same group I hear people talking about Ender 5, find out price range is still within my current budget and I'm a fan of this design style but it doesn't seem to be as popular and harder to find in Canada at least, I was hoping to stick to a canadian store or amazon but we'll have to see. I should have enough in the next 6 weeks or so.

Michael great review, can't wait for the next update. I do have a question how ever. Would you have a preference over the Ender 5 or the CR10s Pro? I keep going back and forth and not sure which is the better. Thoughts?

Always surprises me for a minute when I hear a fellow Aussie on YT 🇦🇺

When can we expect the ugrade video you mentioned in this video? Thank you for everything you do.

I have an Ender 3 and I've had an Ender 5 for about two weeks now. I can honestly say the Ender 5 is amazing. Great build quality, super easy to assemble, and really great prints from the start. I really didn't have to tweak much of anything on it and I was able to print a really great benchy. I've seen multiple comments about the lack of a dual Z. However if you used this printer you'd see that a dual Z on this thing would be pretty pointless. It's supported by two really thick 10MM rods along with the single Z. Also the bed only ever moves in one direction while printing (down) so there's a lot less movement/force on the bed. Outside of attempting to physically stand on the bed, the chance of bending or moving the bed outside of it's normal range is zero.

@Sohtak_Beldeni

5 жыл бұрын

do u recommend me to buy the ender 5 or the ender 3 pro ?

@cold711

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sohtak_Beldeni if budget and space isn't an issue I'd definitely go Ender 5.

Finally another Ender 5 test, thanks! Doesn't seem to make my list of candidates for my first printer smaller though :( Anycubic Mega-S Creality CR-10s Pro Creality Ender 5 JGAurora A5S Monoprice Voxel / Flashforge Adventurer 3 Tevo Flash Tevo Tornado Prusa i3 MK3

great job and video a lot of info looks like the ender 5 is much more stable. was there much if any viberation

Fantastic. Great Video I'm gonna subscribe. I got an Ender 5 coming and that's great you mentioned some very important things to me. S3d, TPU, PETG in addition to the PLA.What about that new NylonX (Nylon + Carbon Fiber Filament)? Thanks again

Thanks! Really helps :)

Great review. I'm very happy with my (heavily modified) E3, but have once hit the z-axis limit. One complaint on the video: it's 'cue' not 'queue'...

@TeachingTech

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed you are correct. Whoops!

That's cool, I have the Ender 3, but this is really cool.

I have really been happy with my Ender 5! I would love to figure out how to turn on thermal runaway.

Best reviews!

Minor point - values @ 1:25 are calculated from the min dimension rather than the volume. Calculating with the volume yields more unwieldly numbers but the disparity is much clearer, particularly if you calculate V / price, so that higher is better.

Another nice job. Is the foot print much bigger then the Ender 3? Honestly, the extra build volume is nice but that thing just looks huge to fit any place in my office.

Thanks for an excellent review. How rigid is the front of the bed? Since its unsupported there, does it have any vibrations during printing?

@Teaching Tech, I've been enjoying your videos. Thank you for making these! I've a question on the Ender 5. You did a comparison of the Ender 3 with and without noise dampening. Where would you say the Ender 5 falls in terms of decibel measuring? Or, more specifically, the Ender 5 Pro which reportedly comes with an upgraded "silent" board?

Michael nice review. Would be good if they redid the manual for the other Ender and CR the same as the one in the video, (maybe they might?), and made them a download. However, I cannot believe they have stuck to the same tiny motherboard though without a bootloader. Yes I understand doing that removes all the support issues ffrom those that update it but another hobbled printer from Creality? That pretty much forces any owner to have to trash the warranty to add any functionality or live with it as is and it is worrying that basic stuff like thermal runaway protection is still not there and yet print on power resume is?

Great reviews as always, though this video is now 2 years out of date. Have you noticed if there has been any improvements? I've noticed the Ender 3's are now being sold with the upgraded control board, is that true with the 5? Also, you mentioned the bed only heats up to 80 degrees which was problematic for ABS. Now ABS is being replaced by ASA, would that still be an issue? Thanks again for all you do!

Creality has quite the line up now. I've been VERY happy with my Ender 3 and I think I'm ready for another printer. In your opinion which Creality would be a good step up? I like the quality of the Creality line and there seems to be a huge user base with tons of good input to be had.

Crystal clear & very informative. Pity the YT video title covers up part of the top of the screen as it's obscuring the names of the models, maybe you can put graphics a bit closer to centre then everything will be legible. It's nice to see manufacturers reverting to PROPER BUILD MANUALS. Ikea could learn from this. A Glasgow man recently threatened to *blow up* the Braehead Store as he struggled to assemble a flatpack wardrobe. Let's hope he never buys a 3D Printer : )

@Nishandh_Mayiladan

2 жыл бұрын

he will probably blow up himself trying to assemble the blowing thing :D

I prefer that style (non-i3 Prusa) printer so you don't have the mass of the build plate swaying around the Y axis. How well is the bed supported from just those front rods? Any vibration?

mate you talked about the print being 180 degrees rotated you just need to reverse y axis in the gcode panel in s3d. thanks for your amazing vids and tuts!

@oleurgast730

5 жыл бұрын

No, reverse only one axis would do a mirroring, not a 180° rotation. You have to reverse x and y to make a 180° rotation of the print.

@TeachingTech

5 жыл бұрын

I'll probably fix it when I configure Marlin but until then it's a really minor quirk in my opinion.

@MrJelle18

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeachingTech The X and Y axis are flipped in the slicer profile, not in the firmware. Simply unticking (or ticking) those two boxes in the slicer settings would fix this.

Michael, I love your videos. Since you have extensive experience with lots of printers, I need some advice. I currently own a cr-10 clone that I bought 2 years ago. It printed great, but lately it requires a bit of fiddle to get a good print. I am looking to get a 2nd printer. I am looking for a printer under 500.00, maybe a bit more. I looked at the ender 3, ender 5, anycubic predator and chiron. With there being 100 different printers, which printers would you recommend that will give reliable, clean prints out of the box, but still has room for upgrades.

I love your videos and understand the pro's and con's but I am still changing my mind every few videos I watch, you may already have one, is there a video on the best mid price ($400-$600 give or take) 3D printer to buy and use out of the box, upgrades maybe as time goes on and you learn more. or suggestions in comments on this comment. I never thought I would have so much brain mush trying to pick a 3D printer,, doing the same with a laser engraver/cutter, must be some damaged neurons upstairs. I need a min of 220x220 bed and would like to do the ABS, would hate to decide to use a specific filament and find the bed doesn't get hot enough. I know some personal opinions will change a decision so maybe even a top two or three good to use out the box. I have been looking at the Ender 3 and this 5, I like the CR10s pro I think it is and also liked the JGMAKER 3D Printer A5 Updated, also didn't mind the GEEETECH A10M & A20M I think the problem is too many and I forget what does what, needs what, what's what. I get side tracked on a new one I see and like that for a while and end up going in circles.

It looks like they updated the hotend bracket, the hotend and fans now seem to be centered and the bracket seems to be wider. That would make it a lot easier to design custom things for this thing!

This is a very informative video. I’m just getting into 3D printing and am trying to figure out what to get. What would you recommend for a machine from $400-$800 for someone new to printing?

Im new to this and consider your channel by far the best of youtube in 3d print! Im still confused, however. I noticed an ender 5 for $297 incl tax/ship. I noticed the 5 doesn’t have much more build volume then the 3. Is it more about the better frame and the z axis moving? What does the bed going up and down add?

Like your vids. Looking for a decent entry level 3D printer ($300-500 range). What would you recommend?

I have an ender 3 pro. upgraded motherboard to 4.2.7, 500 mm ender extender, microswiss direct drive. just got a used ender 5 plus that was abused a bit. seems after ordering parts (just ordered so waiting for them to get here) I am still well under the purchase price to put a ledgek motherboard, microswiss direct drive. it seems it would be around the ender 3 volume/price ratio, but I got it for well under half so in my case it is well under the CR-10. I don't know if it is worth it for you to go over the ender 5 plus and good modifications/upgrades. thanks for your work and going to watch through your other videos to learn more

Thank you for your videos!!! I have a question hopefully you’ll see this. I have an ender three I just started playing with but I do want something in addition I can do a bigger print Area somewhere in the $600 range so ender 5 pro, cr-10 and which version or do you have other recommendations? The ender three that I just started playing with it’s kind of my Frankenstein/learning 3-D printing with all the additional parts I got for it the bigger print bed will be one I use once I figure out exactly how I want to be set up An for now play around with direct drive, etc. I also got the mosaic 2 And hub that I still have to set up but that will give me the ability to do multicolor which I’ll probably use it on the larger printer

Now i just need to work on converting my first gen CR-10 to this style.

I assume the updated Ender 3 software from reality would be installed the same as as any other version of marlin

I just got two sapphire-s printers so probably I will not need any other printers, but Creality not bad too imho

Great video Michael! I believe that a large bonus to having the coreXY configuration is the ability to move faster with the increased rigidity. Would you consider testing that at all? I'd be very interested to see what you find.

Will you make a review on the two trees sapphire s?

Bought the Ender 5 pro nice printer works well.

@JDoyle

2 жыл бұрын

How're you getting on with it?

Did they cancel the ender5? I cant find it anywhere. Not on ebay, amazon, banggood or aliexpress

Looks pretty good, now they need to make a bigger CR-15 version and I’ll grab one ;)

Good tutorials

If Creality released a new firmware for the Ender 3, is the process of updating the same with a bootloader? Thanks, love your channel!

Thank you for the review! will you do an comeback at the salmon skin part? I love to see an printed statue or bust

@TeachingTech

5 жыл бұрын

Plenty of room for TL smoothers so I may have a go with them. I found they didn't do much on my Ender 3s.

@aggronn

5 жыл бұрын

@@TeachingTech hope they will help with the salmon skin since this really looks like a printer for tall prints like statues

thanks for the review. seeing as it pretty much is a 3pro with a sturdier frame, i wonder if there is a way to test the frame limits. say by pushing it to faster speeds and comparing the results from the 3pro and the 5

@cube.in.

5 жыл бұрын

If you are printing small things, then yes. It is just 3pro with a sturdier frame. But if you are printing something taller, then ender 5 is so much better. Reason being, Ender 3 has to move bed in Y axis while printing and higher you go more wobbly it is.

Nice, looking good, nice review What it this control of the head called? Thanks for sharing :-)

@avejst

5 жыл бұрын

@@Captn_Grumpy Thanks for clearing this up :-)

I gotta say, I love my Ender 3. I started with an anet a8 and that almost turned me away from 3d printing altogether - the Ender 3 is seriously a great starting point. She prints well out of the box but there's room for tweaking and learning how everything works, now I'm planning out a Voron build to reuse my anet's parts. Not really feeling the 5 here. Definitely not a fan of the single-side cantilever and the mock-corexy gantry on this guy.

@edstar83

5 жыл бұрын

a8 net's are good once you do safety upgrades and fine tuned.

Nice printer. Might be my next printer to keep my Ender 3 company. Easy to separate the electronics from the main printer frame and enclose said printer frame for optimum use with ABS. I like it. Hmm, as of 2/27/2019 the Ender 5 doesn't appear to be available nor does it show up at any of the places I normally shop (Amazon, Banggood, Aliexpress, eBay). I wonder whats up with that. Maybe Creality is discontinuing or revamping it...

I do not understand creality using this kinematic, moving the heavy x-stepper motor in y-direction. If you use an bowden setup, only ultimaker-style, corexy and delta make sense to get the moving mass as low as possible. Also I do not like the bed being hold only on one side. It should be more precice with a two side hold printbed. How much is the lead of the lead screws? Bed falling down normaly can be easy fixed with a lower lead. So if you have the common 4*2 = 8mm movement per rotation, it tooks 4 times the force to push down the bed if you use a 2mm per potation lead screw - easily fix that problem. Reducing the salomon skin I would not recommend tl-smothers but higher resolution extruder. A bondtech BMG (or a clone you can get for 22€) plus a 0.9° stepper. Its 6 times the resolution, makeing much more precise movement o filament. You may also change to a direct extruder (Petsfang with v6, BMG and Pencake stepper). Such a mod even costs less than a 1:1 microswiss mod (as you can use cheap chinese parts exept the microswiss heatbreak (and maybe the nozzle to print abrasives). If I had no Ender 3, I would think about the Ender 5, but if you have already an ender 3 (and do not need another printer), it makes no sense to upgrade.

@potteryjoe

5 жыл бұрын

"...(and do not need another printer)..." Who does THAT apply too??

@oleurgast730

5 жыл бұрын

@@potteryjoe I meant entry level printer... The target for the Ender 5 is the same as for the Ender 3: Beginners. After you got over it, you may not only buy and upgrade simple printers, but make your own with all feartures you need from stock. You have of course never enough printers, but there is a limit of entry-level printers you need.

@LostCloudx4

5 жыл бұрын

@@oleurgast730 When punching out product for people multiple entry printers is exactly what many need. ATM my base prints take 18hrs and can fit 1 on the bed, my average order is for 24 units and takes about 16 days to fulfill. If I had 5 E3's or E5's I could 1/4 that production time.

@truantray

5 жыл бұрын

The logical step is Ender 3 to CR10Pro. But 99% of users will not need more than an Ender3.

@Tomaskom

5 жыл бұрын

Salmon skin on these printers is not an extrusion issue at all. It wouldn't align perfectly in X/Y if it was. Adding TL smoothers on my Ender 3 reduced the salmon skin to almost invisible level. See www.thingiverse.com/thing:3323852 - a salmon skin test I made, with a picture of before and after the TL smoothers were installed (only on X+Y).

I could use some advice on 3d printers under 1k. Adv 4, end 5/6, pursa mk5s+ I'm pretty lost on what I should do especially since it's my first printer. Im pretty good a figuring things out and building but list on best option. I'd love to see a video! Advice would be amazing I'm about to make the move just conflicted lol

Trying to decide what to get for my next printer (currently Ender 3). trying to decide between the CR10S Pro or the Ender 5 Plus. Will get a SKR Mini E3 (would it be usable with E5+?) and V6 hotend. What worries me a bit is upgrade option (hotend mounts etc) since I've read that the mounting brcket for the E5 differs and the options might be more limited. (also custom bed size for finding flexplate and similar upgrades).

Hi, I know this is 2 years old, but at about 9:12 you say that the magnetic bed has a limit of 83 degrees so ABS is out of the question. If you switch it with a glass mat can you use ABS?? Great video btw!

Been a few years. I’d love to know your thoughts on the ender 5 plus. Cheers mate!

Hi, I wanted to know your opinion. I need good quality prints and easy to use. Which printer would you recommend- ender 5 pro or cr-10? Thanks for your help

You forgot to review the noise levels

Will you be reviewing the CR 10S Pro?

After 4 months of owning an Ender 3 Pro, prints after prints with no problems. Ender 5 came in today and within 5 hours of printing, there was horrible grinding noise. Upon further inspection z-axis bearings has failed. The screws were also stripped, leading me to believe that someone at the plant has over tighten causing the bearings to be crushed. Will update when my replacement comes in.

@jerrywoods3256

5 жыл бұрын

I did some research, the part that failed is called "flanged bearing". My new Ender 5 came in, 10 hours in and is working flawlessly.

Creality's stock motherboards are quite good. Its simple and easy. integrated 4988 stepper drivers are good also. In addition the board has an AUX pad to solder. It goes to pin 35 of AT1284 or #define E0_AUTO_FAN_PIN 29 in Marlin 1.1.9. So I shoose "Extruder Fan auto off at 50 °C" and soldered the FET board input to AUX with wire. Unfotuately it seems it has no PWM. So we cant set the speed of the fan, just on\off (0\255).

Just received my Ender 5 from the official Creality site. In case anyone is considering buying this: The power supply is NOT a UL certified Meanwhile psu. They changed it to Landy, which is not UL certified. The mainboard does not have thermal runaway protection. The extruder drive feed is plastic. These parts aren't all that expensive but they do add up. You may want to consider how much you are going to have to spend on upgrades vs buying a higher end printer.

I would think because of the design and the heavy bed not being moved in the y axis that you can increase speed a lot more with less ringing. Would this be true for this machine? I need speed and quality.

Hi Michael Thank you for all your videos. You make everything clear, this is very helpful. I’d like to upgrade my Ender 5, but I am afraid to mess it up, as Marlin is not supporting it for now. My biggest concern is the BLTouch : can I install it without flashing the motherboard ? What fan duct for the E5 will be compatible with the BLT ? So many questions !

@TeachingTech

5 жыл бұрын

Bltouch needs firmware changes unfortunately. If you don't want to flash the bootloader, consider changing the board to a MKS Gen L. I will be covering this. At a glance the cooling fan looks the same as the Ender 3. There are many options available. My fav is the Hero Me, please see my video on it.

@laurentfontaine-sahores1625

5 жыл бұрын

I am okay to flash the bootloader, I have an Arduino Uno to perform this operation. The only question is : where can I find the configuration settings of Marlin 1.1.9 for Ender 5 ?

@laurentfontaine-sahores1625

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael I have read that you are currently working on an explanation on how to flash Marlin on an Ender 5. Is it true ? When do you plan to post it? I can’t wait to install my BLTouch and there is no way I could do that without your expertise ! Thanks again for all your help. L.

@Teaching Tech Couldn't I just use all the parts from my Ender3, order some 2040 and 2020 aluminum extrusions and build myself an Ender5? Obviously there would have to be a few extra parts ordered like the Zaxis bars.

This is the printer I have been waiting for. It will be mine.

@TeachingTech

5 жыл бұрын

I really like it, in part because it's different to all the other printers I've reviewed lately.

I think with the more rigid frame of the Ender-5 it could be a nice ideo if you showed how to put Klipper on it.

@nothanks7752

5 жыл бұрын

considering it's the identical board as the ender 3, you'd just follow those same steps. Only difference would probably inverting the Z home up instead of down.

what size 3d printer do you recommend for doing things like helmets. power ranger so etc.

Also would you recommend this over the CR-6 SE? Im torn between the two

Sheesh, prices during this pandemic have skyrocketed. Do you recommend waiting to buy if I am getting my first printer?

@Captmarksparrow

3 жыл бұрын

It looks like the only ender 5 I could find, at least on Amazon, is the ender 5 pro, which might explain the price hike. I personally have just modded out my ender 3 pro, and am loving it so far.

@Minionbro360

3 жыл бұрын

You could get a better printer for cheaper or at the same price

Any preliminary thought on the Alfawise U30. I bought one for a friend as it was cheaper than an Ender 3 at the time and it has more features(LCD/filament run-out). The Ender 3 pro orientation of the print bed caught my eye too. Did I make the right choice in your opinion?

@TeachingTech

5 жыл бұрын

Mine was suffering from constant extrusion issues, I adjusted the extruder vref as per their instructions and bam. Replacement main board on the way. I agree it has some nice features for the money. I particularly like the LCD interface.

Would you recommend this Ender 5 over the Ender 3 Pro.? My concerns are with the bed wobble with its only rear fixing like a cheaper design I once purchased the Tronxy X5. I have the Ender 3 Pro so if I was to purchased the Ender 5 I would be looking for better quality prints rather than the option to print taller items.

since it is all the same parts , how about a conversion video converting an Ender 3 to an Ender 5

Wow, they didn't change one thing I would have. This thing is still realistically limited to printing PLA, still has that gimped motherboard, still has that weak extruder, which so many people have to shim when it starts slipping on the filament. A 5cm taller build volume wouldn't even make my top 20 list.

Hi i am very happy i finally ordered one of these..Question if i order a second one to print at the same time so i can produce parts faster will i need another computer? or will one Lap top run both? thanks

@dean9677

4 жыл бұрын

transfer files to sd cards in both printers press print