Crashing a CNC Machine on Purpose!!!
Crashing a Doosan CNC Mill on purpose. What's your thoughts?
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The boss if the crash prevention system failed: 😐
@yolkonut6851
10 ай бұрын
The boss when he realizes he can get reimbursed or sue Doosan for far more
@JoshuaLSpeedy
9 ай бұрын
Him recording was just in case of lawsuit
@tonylannon7674
6 ай бұрын
Imaging taking a company the size of doosan to court
Well, it's kinda nice but when designing this they didn't consider the absolute joy of all of the lights in the entire shop dimming for a second with that sound announcing your failure to everyone in the building. Or spending the next hour trying to figure out how to get that thing unstuck, because it crashed so hard it just refuses to move to any direction.
@timpande6900
9 ай бұрын
So you have heard about me ..... Word travels fast I see 😂
@timpande6900
9 ай бұрын
By the way... When changing tool 7 and 6... Remember when touching off which tool you are setting at that moment..... I knew I was 100 percent correct.... 1" face mill pounded into side of part and bent fixture on tombstone... Yes it's a horizontal..... Yes I was new.... yes I cried😢.... lol
@calfeggs
8 ай бұрын
When you blow the hv fuse for the whole industrial block
@AlwaysRushesIn
3 ай бұрын
I machine brass parts for water services. Boring bars and face off tools getting gummed up in the brass is real fun
@matthewbailey8588
2 ай бұрын
Bro ive crashed some big lathes and ive never cried haha. Just got that well fuck feeling
Every college needs these lol we got new CNC milling machines at my school my 1st year. By 3rd year, i was using the old manual machines because all the new ones were messed up and couldn't hold positions or tolerances cause of all the slop in the machines from being crashed 100 times lol
@humblecognition7766
9 ай бұрын
If you're learning to be a machinist then fix the slop, what happens in the field when you have a sloppy machine? Give up?
@portcityengineering
9 ай бұрын
@@humblecognition7766I blame their teacher/school, they are students learning how to use the machine how are they going to know how to fix the machine 😂 But I do see your point and totally agree! -Fellow Machinist
@jakobwhaley5641
7 ай бұрын
@portcityengineering yeah I'm 18 and we were taught the operations of lathe and mill, but when the lathe got messed up they had me and another kid fix it cause I was one of the only other guys who cared to self teach himself about the machines and how to repair them, now I'm onto teaching myself cnc work,
its donnie from titans of cnc!
@donniehinske
Жыл бұрын
It is!
@WaterlordArthur
10 ай бұрын
Aww yeah!
@ChadOHara98
9 ай бұрын
@donniehinske love your content on titans bro! Big fan from Cali central coast
ive crashed my huge lathe and it will absolutely crush any tool or tool holder we have in the shop, it has 0 give up built in
@kanderssen7629
10 ай бұрын
same. tho mine just shoots the part at you afterwards as like a spit in the face. extra disrespect.
@seancollins9745
9 ай бұрын
my cincinatti has 10hp X and Z servos and a 50hp spindle, everything is a tool , even when it goes wrong lol
@MrChevelle83
9 ай бұрын
@@seancollins9745 Im not sure what HP the servos are but on the lathe I run the spindle is a 150 HP DC motor on a ABB drive it has 17 belts going from the motor to the head stock gearbox. its a brute.
@jakobwhaley5641
7 ай бұрын
How'd you crash the lathe? Run the tooling in the chuck?
@MrChevelle83
7 ай бұрын
@@jakobwhaley5641 no, Ive put the wrong program in which had a totally different 'max diameter' from the touch off point and it ran the tool into the part ripping it out of the tool post and ruining the tool post clamp.
Haas has that and it wouldnt of even bent the round stock....
@cyber2526
Жыл бұрын
yea but it slowed the rapids down a lot
@cyber2526
Жыл бұрын
plus it only works in rapid moves i think this works in feed moves too
@annes666
Жыл бұрын
@@cyber2526 exactly sir,you're right
@BRANDON-IRON009
Жыл бұрын
If the current old 2014 Haas Vf3 Vertical mill I run. You would have to be a major screwon. Trust
@LordOfChaos.x
Жыл бұрын
On our dmg 75evo it does stop at the slightest bit of deflection or instant loadm
Z-25. 💀💀💀
@jtheb9585
10 ай бұрын
Trying to send it through the floor
@D559Archuleta559
10 ай бұрын
Full send
@dominicpecoraro6074
10 ай бұрын
was G91 not G90. so it's from top of z plain not part 0. :p
@42033
17 күн бұрын
The G0 is the bad part 😂 Full speed crack
Do it with a 4” facemill. Or do it with the spindle alone..
It's not the same when you use 16mm carbide cutter. Talon you use in this example is soft😁
I work on these for a living, I'm sure your guy loves having to deal with these shenanigans
Smart. And machines will get smarter. Eventually they'll have enough awareness of everything inside the work envelope that crashes will be essentially impossible.
@outkast937
10 ай бұрын
Until you have a fuckup in the surface data and the tool tries to get to a place it has to get to to follow its program but absolutely cannot
@seancollins9745
9 ай бұрын
AI camera based systems are coming
@Threat_LvL
9 ай бұрын
yeah i cant fucking wait to check my machine because some sensor feeling funny today and put an emergency stop every 5min.... we got those laser tool probs (looks fancy but suck dick) and you cant even messure tools constantly because sometimes it just doesnt register it or the coolant take ages to stop dripping. better just watch your programm and never go 100% feedrate
I crashed Robodrills before. The tool goes in a tad bit more and then breaks, but it saves the spindle atleast.
Good to know 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Is this system using a pressure transducer to stop it during collision?
If that had been an endmill and not stock, that would have been insane.
Donnie cameo!
@donniehinske
Жыл бұрын
This was a few years back. Loved working there! Dynamic was a fun job
I just know that hurt the spindle
@85CEKR
9 ай бұрын
Did you notice how hard it looked for him to spin that spindle by hand? Something ain't right.
@RoboArc
9 ай бұрын
@85CEKR the berrings gone 😭😄 everyone wants to run a cnc as fast as possible,but fr that just adds unnecessary wear and tear to the drive assemblies and rails. I tend to run machines at conservative feeds and speeds to avoid crashes like this. A few of my freinds went in on a big ass HAAS for their shop they have, I never did run it as fast as possible. It's scary when you do 😂 If it's not production, speed isn't really a big deal. I have a shitty machine for home use, so I definitely can't afford to crash it 😂
@85CEKR
9 ай бұрын
@RoboArc your exactly right, I have a small machine shop with a few lathes and mills all okuma's, we do mainly low production and even though our machines can do anything you see online, there's just no point. As an example we have ongoing family of part that we do. They all have a set up on the lathes with 5-10 minutes of roughing on a 30min cycle time. We run them at 400sfm and the kyocera insert we run will literally cut for days. We've had multiple salesman come and give us inserts to run at 1000-1300 sfm they work great for a few parts but then they blow up. When it come down to it running at 400 sfm non-stop for 2 or 3 days is just better. Changing an insert takes at minimum 3-5 mins, longer if the operator is busy doing something else and everytime an insert goes you have a chance of wreaking the toolholder, we use the coolant thru ones so your taking 3-400 bucks. Slow and steady wins the race
The newer Doosan mill 100% rapid is a joke.
@ryanvv9349
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this commment. So that was honestly 100%? You're right, that's an absolute joke.
@wildin13
9 ай бұрын
That's not 100% I run a Mynx 950 (huge vertical!) It's rapids were set to 12M/min. We also have a new DNM 750 that has 30M/min rapids. This was maybe 15 at a push so I would say it's 50%
@aidensiuda8945
9 ай бұрын
the lynx rapid is ridiculous for such a small machine i accidentally rapid to x0.0 with my cutoff tool
Für was die G 91? Unotig frisst nur speicher.😁
Would be awesome let the CNC spindle crash to the table
If G0 is that slow, my mazak would have no problems....wait, it has no problems even with a much higher speed.
Imagine crash testing a machine and nobody has safety glasses on. Not being a safety nazi, but I would say least wear some protection if I was crashing my machine.
@Dillybar777
Жыл бұрын
Shut up
@Youknowood
Жыл бұрын
I’m not a big safety glasses guy but when something may very well break like tapping or little endmills on my non inclosed cnc or shit it’s time to break the glasses out. Crashing on purpose definitely falls into that category 😂
Boss had enough of your shit 😂
understand if you don't now or have ever worked with this machinery it means Jack Sqaut
🤓☝️MDI stands for manual data input
@Threat_LvL
9 ай бұрын
always wondered what that means..
So we just gave up on safety glasses? Hmm
Is that Donnie Hinske ? 🧐
Looks like an aluminum shaft and not a real enmill... thats wayy different
Huh? If you set you Z offset incorrectly that shit will crash bad!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes
Z+ I would say😂
Hahaha its funny and funnier when getting a bill and probably losing the job
@MarioAPN
10 ай бұрын
Lol. Workers in my shop, experienced machinists destroyed a lot of machines. They still work, but 5 axis are out of their field of tolerance. B axis on one has 0.02mm of slope and that is a lot. Can not be fixed, that is the best outcome. It will only get worse. 3 lathes are also beyond repair. A couple of guys got fired, but most of them are still working. Mistakes happen. If you don't have money for a repair, do everything by yourself. 6 machines can be productive by one person, the owner. And if you want to work, then you need to take a risk with other people. I am working with 24 haas, 8 hurco mills. I have also done things. That new project, 16 brand new shunk hydro lock tool holders, carbide tools, new 5 axis haas. And I am working on that for 1100 euros.😂😂
That's funny and cool and all until you guys need to call service and they send a tec only to be handed a bill for about 20K minimum for new spindle after they pull the history on this machine and even better when they see this video
проехала больше чем 25мм значет в дюймах.
Maybe it's just me, but that's pretty slow for full rapid.
You can stay far away from my mills and vises.
M3S10000G00G91x10.0Z-25.0 Rapid 100% would have been way cooler too see.
@calebpope4664
10 ай бұрын
With a 6” steel cutter
@Mooshkajoe
9 ай бұрын
@@calebpope4664 Make it interesting and get a massive shell mill.
I don't care what you pay me i would never do that 😢.
G 0 z-10😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Seem city
Majority of doosans are crap
G00- Rapid positioning “Moving at high speed to get to a certain place” G91- Incremental programming -z25.- Tool going down negative for down positive for up.
How do they make machines this expensive yet fail to add crash prevention like this to every single one on just put some fucking force sensors in there and set a cutoff limit.
Or you could just know what you are doing and observe things like distance to go. Maybe even use a cam system that has machine sim
@josipkasalo70
Жыл бұрын
Or you could not be a smarty pants and see the title of the video.
@cyber2526
Жыл бұрын
Mistakes happen
@AV-the-machinist
Жыл бұрын
@@josipkasalo70 yeah, making money includes crashing a machine on purpose.
@AV-the-machinist
Жыл бұрын
@@cyber2526 mistakes on purpose only happen for clicks on social media
@cyber2526
Жыл бұрын
@@AV-the-machinist thats not what i was talking about
oh no the poor spindle