As a car mechanic I absolutely love watching most of the carnage on this channel. As a guy who used to work for Polaris building their motorcycle engines I found myself in agony watching this one.

@340rps

Жыл бұрын

Are you the guy who installed the c- clips in the tranny that fail. Polaris left their customers holding the bag on that one.

There are two stages to the oil pump, high volume low pressure for cooling, and low volume high pressure for lubrication. Those are very good motors. and those parts are gonna get pretty valuable in short order, when Polaris killed victory, they left the owners pretty well high and dry when it comes to replacement parts. The part with the wear in the primary is what is known as a compensator. it is there to absorb some of the vibrations from the unequal firing pulses. Harleys have them on the primary chain. and yes they are called Jugs.

@macthemec

Жыл бұрын

That really sucks that polaris did that after 20+ years to their customers

@earlscheib7754

Жыл бұрын

Go s&s or just sell the victory it's a loser brand

@macthemec

Жыл бұрын

Earl Scheib harsh

@theobscurity9392

Жыл бұрын

What what I remember from working at an ex victory dealer, once victory was dead, they were promised 10 years of parts manufacturing and availability. Well that didn't exactly happen and we were shorted by like 7 years on some parts

@whalesong999

Жыл бұрын

The "compensator" device was also termed "shock damper" on other makes. Even OSSA motorcycles had them on the crankshaft to absorb shock pulses from strain on the drive train that would lead to premature failures.

Another weekend, another case of beer, another epic blown engine video. Gonna be a good night!

@Cynsham

Жыл бұрын

Another saturday at work, but i always look forward to passing the time with a teardown video

@rustypotatos

Жыл бұрын

A whole case in 36 mins yeehaw

Find a Gold Wing flat-6, either 1500 0r 1800 displacement, to tear down.

@notme8121

Жыл бұрын

Didn't those go extinct with the dinosaurs?

@alanbare8319

Жыл бұрын

@@notme8121 The Gold Wing models are still being manufactured in 2022!

@psk5746

Жыл бұрын

@@notme8121 This motor was a dinosaur when it was designed

@doctorwhodude82

Жыл бұрын

@@notme8121 nope. Seen a couple with over 300k miles. They're built to last.

@jstoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

@@notme8121 that dinosaur was able to beat a motogp lap record

One of the best V Twins ever made.

I'd be curious to hear updates on how the parts sell in the future

If I were a motorcycle tech I’d be freaking out right now. Since I am not, this all looked fine to me. Atta boy

Oh no! I like your teardowns because I'm not a car mechanic, but you've put your fingers in my pie this time! Not familiar with Vicory's designs per se, but I am intimately familiar with Harley, and this is a very similar setup. I'll try to remember all your questions: Cylinders: "jugs" is correct as a common term to use. -Can't rotate motor via timing bolt: yep, you needed to open the "primary" and rotate using the big ol' stator bolt. The primary is so called because it houses the "primary drive" components transferring power from the crank to the clutch/transmission. -Ramps between the crank and transmission in the primary drive: that's called a compensator. It's spring loaded (HEAVY springs) and helps absorb the odd power delivery that a single crank pin v-twin likes to create (think Harley "potato") to make for a smoother ride. Harley does the same thing, but places it on the crank with the stator, then uses a double row chain instead of this design's gears to connect the crank to the clutch. -Finned block at bottom front of motor: your second guess was correct. It's a rectifier/regulator for the charging system. -Flower gear: is a shift detent. Between peaks are your gears, and the missing peak is your neutral detent. Shift pattern will be 1 down and 5 up which means 1st gear clicks down, then half click up to neutral, or full click up to 2nd, then full clicks up until 6th. -Oil pump uses 2 trochoids: One is your pump pushing oil from the pan throughout the engine. The other should be your "scavenge" pump that pulls the oil collecting in the crank housing after lubricating everything, and feeds it back to the oil pan (aka dry sump). It's another feature shared with Harley.

@DoctorJelly

Жыл бұрын

Nope, some googling says the oil pump is not feed and scavenge like a Harley. It's as another comment mentioned; feed and oil cooler. Funky...

@mikekokomomike

Жыл бұрын

Bmw uses a similar pump to oil cool the heads between the exhaust valves on their 4 valve heads on air cooled bikes. Low pressure high flow and after heads goes to radiator then pan

@normangraber1047

Жыл бұрын

Wet sump. Not like Harley at all.

@jimdavis6833

Жыл бұрын

If you are intimate with your Harley, I suggest you seek help.

@timlee4204

5 ай бұрын

The gear drive between engine and clutch allows the balance shaft to run reverse to the engine

@9:46 These are definitely Melons. Nevertheless, when dealing with Either Jugs or Melons, there is usually a simple but Impossible to operate Clasp. Once the Clasp is relieved of its Burdens, bot Jugs and Melons will easily swing free. Moral: Sometimes Jugs and Melons are the same thing. Thanks for posting!!!

@oligoprimer

Жыл бұрын

On aircraft recip engines they’re called jugs.

@Backroad_Junkie

Жыл бұрын

@@oligoprimer Whoosh. 😁 It was the worst of times, it was the breast of times....

@bewildered5444

Жыл бұрын

😄🇬🇧

As a motorcycle guy, it was pretty fun to see a car expert bumble through this teardown

Whatever engine or transmission he tears down I will still watch it

As someone who’s done their own bike maintenance for decades, that was the funniest dipstick battle on this channel, yet. 😂😂😂

Love the channel-very cool to see different stuff, and still no dumb music. TV for gear heads - all of us !

That was cool. I am on my second Victory. They are great bikes and last a very long time with no issues. That part with the worn ramps is the torque compensator. It helps stop backlash of the gears from the power pulses of those big pistons. In side that are spring washers. Pretty much everything on the Victory engine is over sized and over built. Unfortunately Polaris was poorly run when it came to Victory. They needed to upgrade some of the issues like the clunky transmission. Instead we got new paint colors and high prices. Instead of discontinuing Victory they should have found a new person to run the division. I am keeping my 2015 Victory Vision forever….

@adotintheshark4848

Жыл бұрын

The Vision is an awesome bike. I really like the style though some people would call them "weird". And the only issue Victory ever had was an oil pump issue on the early V92. It is a shame Polaris dumped the brand to make Indian. I guess they didn't want the two brands to compete with each other.

@robc8468

Жыл бұрын

I am not surprised your Victory engines last well, the the design looks well done with very few if any corners cut on engine components...

@sugarnads

Жыл бұрын

@@adotintheshark4848 they sold alongside each other for YEARS. Victory got dropped coz they werent selling.

Super cool seeing a bike engine here. A 600 I4 would be awesome if you run into one. Edit: Also, seeing a crashed bike engine hits harder than any car engine... someone probably got hurt to give us this teardown.

@robertcochran7103

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I was thinking the same thing.

You did a great job! Even naming the parts that you didn't know... I always look forward to my Saturday tear down.

Love these videos. Should make these a series and call them, "Let's just see what happens."

@geobrower3069

Жыл бұрын

There's a KZread site (UK) that kinda does that, a monthly update called "What's broken now", the site is called "Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels". A lot of comedy albeit dry British humour but still watchable. The monthly show is a recap of what broke and what didn't (rare) of their many projects.

@JSB2500

Жыл бұрын

"Let's just see what happens" is how I got into engineering. When I was 3. 🙂

I’ve never had a Victory engine apart, but as motorcycle engines go, I’d say that design is straightforward and appears to be a thoughtful design, engineering wise. The camshaft holders in particular strike me as a very intelligent solution. All told, I didn’t see any built-in booby traps to the engine. Good video!

You could probably read a phone bill and have it being entertaining and informative. That being said your instincts for what make good videos have been pretty golden so far and I don't see them failing you anytime soon. Tearing down a light aircraft engine at some point could be an interesting oddball teardown.

Motorcycle teardowns are much appreciated. ✌

I had a Victory Vegas with Highball Bars, Ive been riding since 2010 and owned multiple bikes, Victory has hands down been one of the best and powerful bikes ive owned!

Nice to see that the claims of Victory being well made were true. What a stout design. I should have bought one years ago.

Assembled at the Polaris engine plant in Osceola, WI.

Victory engines are some of the best motorcycle engines out there. Given the quality of the gear, chains, bearings etc and other, I can now see why.

Don't know how I missed this video until now. With the 106 tear apart, eerrr break down , you have done every engine I've owned in the last 20 years. While there is a lot of resentment by Victory owners for Polaris stabbing us in the backs, we all know, they make great naturally aspirated engines. I'll run mine till the wheels fall off

Arkansas here! Man you should get a small airplane engine that would be freaking cool!!

Not quite a lawnmower engine, but we're getting closer! 😁

@johnnicol8598

Жыл бұрын

I can clearly see why this thing died. It's pretty awful.

@robbo580

6 ай бұрын

why? @@johnnicol8598

You looked so much like my 9 year old boy in my very sophisticated workshop! When found he had a calibrated torque wrench hammering nails into an OAK block!!! UK Pete.

@connerlabs

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the time I (also aged 9) got into my friend's dad's workshop and started squashing random things with the hydraulic press. I'm now an engineer of course.

Cam chains are "Silent" type - a.k.a - a "Hy-Vo", "Morse", or "inverted tooth". They are extremely more wear resistant than a standard roller chain, but less efficient at power transmission. Almost all overhead cam motorcycles use them for cam drive. Lots of bikes use them as primary drive as well, where they can be over an inch in width. I've never seen the innards of a Victory engine before - it looks like it is a well thought out design from a mechanic's perspective.

Great video. I have a 2008 Vision that I love. I heard something interesting today. The Victory 106 engine has ~14 gaskets total whereas the twin cam Harley engine has over 60. That's insane.

YES, I love the variety. Keep up the great work man!

Am loving how you are now getting into so many different teardowns, like bike motors, CVTs etc. I'm learning heaps! In that vein, any chance of an outboard boat motor one day? Keep it up!!

Being a bike rider myself, seeing carnage like that scares the F*** out of me. It seems like some people just don't understand how IMPORTANT it is to drive defensively when riding a motorcycle.

@orangedream267

Жыл бұрын

There is only one law on the road for bikers, bicyclists, and pedestrians. Physics. If a car hits you, it's you who'll be broken.

@kristensorensen2219

Жыл бұрын

Think the helmet cracked too?🤔🤷💀

@johndelta00

Жыл бұрын

@@orangedream267 Its getting harder to convince myself to throw a leg over my bike. People just don't pay attention to the road and other traffic anymore.

@raydar2630

Жыл бұрын

@@johndelta00 Sadly, I quit riding about the time that cell phones and SUVs became popular. Now that I'm out in the country, that could change. Maybe.

@TheBandit7613

Жыл бұрын

I quit riding (on the street) after being hit for the second time. People here drive with their head up their asses. I almost lost my left arm because it was shattered in so many pieces. Nothing to screw together. It took a full year for the bones to (stick) back together again and it's about 4" shorter. So I had a broken arm that lasted a full year. My work loved that! The person who hit me broadside was under-insured so I paid for a lot of my own medical. Don't get hit by people on welfare. Not worth the lawsuit. Can't touch their golden welfare. They got a 125 dollar ticket and I have a barely working left arm.

Interesting tear down 👍, good to see something different.

Love it, would love to see a sport bike engine tear down, too.

2:43 BUSTIN MAKES ME FEEEL GOOOOOODDD♪

Fun fact: that engine had almost the same displacement and power as my old Scion xA. The big difference is that my Scion was a 4-cylinder!

Loved the opening dad joke…to greater degree, loved the idea of taking different kinds of engines appart

The piece from the center of the primary case, that you said you don't know what it is, is called a compensator. It absorbs the rapid change in revs from the engine / clutch / starter and smooths them out before they get to the transmission so it doesn't rattle things apart and smooths out the final drive so you don't feel all of that on the road. Not sure if anyone else called that out, I haven't scoured the comments. This was a fun one!

This was great. More motorcycle engines, please! Find some busted BMWs and Triumphs if you can.

Good to see a simple bike engine. I was wondering about the cases splitting as there is a tool for that called a "case splitter". Imagine that! The cam chain design is common in overhead cam motorcycle engines as it is quiet and it manages the tight turn around the small crankshaft sprocket much better than a simple link chain would, especially in higher RPM applications. Overhead cams on a long stroke big twin makes for a tall top end assembly. Pushrod Harley engines are more compact in that respect, much like your beloved LS engines. OHC seems unnecessary for the lowish RPM these Victory engines turn. Quite a few riders disliked the appearance of this engine due to the unusually tall top end assembly. When these engines were in production, they handily spanked their Harley competition in power output. The Harley engine is better looking than this Victory though, and looks matter, especially for cruisers. The Harley is a 45 degree twin, while this Victory is 50 degrees. The Harley engine's loping engine sound is iconic while the sound made by this Victory is comparatively "blah". It is interesting that a 5 degree difference in V angle matters that much. Engine sound also matters to riders. Polaris moved on from Victory and sells Indian now. Indian offers big air cooled pushrod twin, the "Thunderstroke 116" and the higher tech liquid cooled "PowerPlus" engine, which, true to it's name, offers good power for this type of machine. I think Polaris is doing it better these days with Indian, as Indian offers a wider range of products that potentially appeal to a greater variety of riders. If you want a motorcycle engine with a more carlike architecture, go find yourself a Honda Gold Wing engine. The Gold Wing's flat 6 is probably the most reliable bike engine ever made. Plenty of "Wings" out there with serious 6 figure mileage on them, over 400K is not unheard of at all. Even high performance sport bikes can go many miles with good care too, particularly the larger 1,000cc engines, which live an easy life as nobody can run a 175+ MPH 1000 hard on the street for very long and not die or get their ass thrown in jail. I had a friend with a Honda CBR900 sport bike that had over 300K miles on it. He lived in CA and used that bike to commute and rode it on weekends. Ya, he seemingly lived on that bike and he was a single guy 😆

@pancakewsx

Жыл бұрын

Great points, yet I do not agree as much on the influence of vee angle on the sound - it seems to be more related to exhaust design and low rpm tune. After all, H-D has exhaust pulses spaced 315 and 405 degrees apart, while Victory has 310 and 410 degrees respectively - the difference is very slight and Victory had more uneven pattern.

@artmchugh5644

11 ай бұрын

When you take a harley and put straight pipes on it whatever sounds it makes IS TOO FUCKIN LOUD!!! CHROME AIR COMPRESSOR!!!

@brucedale4465

2 ай бұрын

Some people like the Harley feel and sounds. The rest are just satisfied with the mundane rice burners!

That is a very impressive, well-built engine. Imagine what it could do powering a go kart. Thanks for this teardown.

Just wanted to say a huge thankyou, I am stripping down one of these motors in the U.K with a friend to sort out a gear issue ( or lack of.. ) This video has helped us massively, tommorow we will be splitting the crank cases knowing exactly what to expect inside ..

Good video. Fun to watch you tear down these engines. In my day of bikes, we called the cylinders lungs one lunger, two lunger.

I own The Vic Werks and Mill City Motorcycles and LOL yes you definitely did not tear that down the right way, but that is what makes your channel fun! Will be in touch monday Am for the parts!

@davemeyers2633

Жыл бұрын

Email sent

Not even a minute into the video and I already know I'm going to like it!

The Victory engine loves to rev for a vtwin. With simple changes it is very easy and inexpensive to get the stock 106” over 100hp. I have two Victory bikes, a 117” steel frame (like what this engine came out of) and a almost stock 106” Cross bike. Both have been extremely reliable and so easy to maintain. Literally just have to change the oil and replace the tires when you are supposed to. Not sure if you noticed these have hydraulic lash adjusters, so no need to open it up to adjust anything for the valves. (Looking at you Ducati with y’all’s valve setup) That clutch pack you pulled is worth some $$$ for sure. The one weak link in this motor if there was one would be the clutch. Typically they are always adjusted too tight, which leads to them being smoked prematurely. But if you keep it adjusted properly they will last forever so long as you don’t go way overboard on hp/tq. If you’ve still got the stator & regulator I could give them a home on a shelf here. I’m sure at some point I’ll need them. Hell, I could probably build a complete spare engine at this point with all the extra spare parts I’ve stashed away.

Makes me wonder how much damage the rider took… thanks for the video.👍

@billinhouston3291

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, as a former rider, I couldn't stop thinking about the damage to the rider. :(

Probably be a difficult engine to find, but would be fun to see a Yamaha vmax 1200 or 1800 engine tear down. That or a Yamaha venture as they're mostly the same. It's a v4 and might make for a fun challenge for you haha. Love your channel brother. Peace :)

@connorjones1485

5 ай бұрын

Dreading the day I have to take apart my venture motor. Still shifts all the gears, but it’s an 83, and they’re known to lose second due to a weak bushing that got updated in later years. They’re really fantastic motors. I’ve ridden mine from coastal Oregon, to the top of vail pass. No carb adjustments in between, just set for my home elevation here in Utah. Fast enough to get in trouble, torquey enough to move an almost 800lb bike with ease, and they sound awesome

Slip blocks of wood under the rear piston (since the cylinder is removed) to stop the piston…connecting rod…thus crankshaft from moving. That can help remove the front cylinder, since the front piston can't move when the crank can't.

@340rps

Жыл бұрын

There actually is a hole thru the case to slip a pin into to keep the crank from turning.

@timlee4204

5 ай бұрын

Yes but the rings would not pass the crack in the cylinder which was the trouble Eric encountered.

@Iowa599

5 ай бұрын

@@timlee4204 I'm pretty sure he could get it past that ridge, because it did when running (a few times, that's why it's scored).

Wow, nice design for this engine, easy to work on.

Very cool teardown. Variety is the spice of life!

Eric, yes, those cylinders are called "JUGS" , my 1st bike was a '69 Suzuki T200, had a slight knock, pulled the jugs off and was missing a wrist pin clip & wrist pin had worked it's way out and left an 1/8" groove in the side of one jug, I replaced the clip, reassembled and rode it for many years, wish I still had it. Great video, keep up the variety and the great work !

This video took me back almost 60 years to stripping down my Triumph Cub sprint bike. The rotary shift system was a major development. Old British bikes had two stage oil pumps; one stage scavenged oil into the tank, other pushed it to the bearings.

I love the teardowns of unusual stuff equally as much as the carnage videos.

Great video!, You and a sizable portion of your audience learned a lot. Like some of the other folks said, the rider of that Victory probably sustained more serious damage than the engine. And that engine took a tremendous shot indeed. I just hope the rider didn't suffer crippling injuries or worse. So not to be a Donny Downer but for anyone who's entertaining riding a bike just remember this engine's damage. I don't ride much anymore, but I always tried to ride like I was a mouse in a room full of cats.

Eric, I love your channel. I think I’d watch you tear down anything. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.

Another great video! Nice to spice things up with something different. Keep up the good work!

So cool. Learned a lot from watching and re-watching your videos. Your comments over carnage are awesome.

This video brought back memories of 16 year old me trying to change the head gasket on a 1980 dodge 2.2 L I had no clue what I was doing either. Good times! Enjoyed the video!

@reubensandwich9249

Жыл бұрын

Back when all you had was the service manual or some book.

@anthonybertone2336

Жыл бұрын

When I was 17 I tore down a Volkswagen Dasher wagon with the diesel, had no idea what I was doing thank God for the auto parts store then, That’s when an auto parts store was an actual auto parts store

Bravo...always fun to watch you expand your knowledge base. I love watching you talk us through your thought process as you work through the teardown. Just a great video and so much fun. As always a great way weekend topper for me. Thank you.

My motorcycle sees less than 2000 miles a year. I change its oil every spring, run ethanol free fuel for the last few rides of the year and store it in an attached garage. It’s 18 years old, and when I bought it, it had 20k miles. It still runs perfectly well. Engine has a decompression valve that’s noisy at idle and some guys remove them, but it’s not going to hurt it.

I love the Sunday a.m.(here in UK) when we get your streams. Keep up the knowledgeable tear downs. Cheers Jonny

That counter balance shaft was really a multi tasker, 1) idler between crank and clutch, 2) the thing with the ramps is a shock absorber that eases stress from crank torque, and 3) it drives the counter balance

@woodhonky3890

Жыл бұрын

4) It drives the oil pump.

@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738

Жыл бұрын

@@woodhonky3890 I'm old and can't think of everything

@woodhonky3890

Жыл бұрын

@@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738 I'm old too brother and I was just trying to help.

@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738

Жыл бұрын

@@woodhonky3890 No problem buddy, without correction we retard advancement

I came to watch your latest vid, and you mentioned the "v twin" and not that im amotorcycle guy but I immediatly searched out this vid. Why, becasue its a bit diffrent... I totaly enjoy when you deviate just abit with intresting and new engines, OR transmission. Transmissions because I remember when you did the trans vid and although its a transmission I totally enjoyed that teardown too. Thank you so much for your vids, they help me during my recovery time. I had a kidney transplant last february, loaded with complications stuck in the hospital with nothing but time on my hands and your vids keep my mind active with intresting stuff I love... THank you agian,

Awesome to see you get into motorcycle engines! That's what I first started with taking apart. It's so neat how simple they are.

48 seconds in and I LOVE this teardown! Thanks pal!!

19:35-Nice pry bar. I could use that in the shop for GM window regulators and HVAC cases. Thanks for the vid. Too bad Victory is gone. Seems like a well built motorcycle.

Thank you for the video, Eric!

That was really neat to see. I've only ever messed around with old dirtbikes (aside from car engines) so it was cool to see.

Thank you for your entertainment I'm a very depressed individual and I look forward to ur weekly videos. Thank you sir

Thank you for switching it up. Very cool seeing inside a motorcycle engine AND transmission. Interesting to know that a big hit can bend the cylinder like that.

Looks like one well engineered piece of kit. Great teardown.

Nothing like a cup of coffee while watching a engine get torn down. Be back next Sunday.

Very interesting engine. Thank for the new adventure

This is a nice change of pace. Great video man.

Thank you again for the entertainment... It's an every Saturday night thing anymore... I don't do bikes I used to, but I've moved on to big diesel engines... Still a fun time watching, and Thank you

Another great teardown. Thanks

Those engines are damn near bullet proof. I get one in every now and then. Pure Polaris where I get parts.

Getting into bikes ! Awesome mate !! We need more of this ! Thanks !!!

I am super stoked for this! Way to come out of deep, left field with one! That's one hell of an impact to crack the cylinder skirt like that!

@340rps

Жыл бұрын

Probably why the the engine split so easy.Normally takes a special tool to split the halves.

This is fun, I feel like the emphasis on the chain that's growing a little every week is for me to keep wondering more and more. Well played yet again!!😆

Pretty impressed with the build quality of that polaris motor nice job on the tear down Guy !

It was nice to see this tear down. My son and I are about to rebuild an 82 Yamaha and having never done a bike motor before this was really cool to see. Thank you.

My favorite improvised tool was the hammer, box end wrench and chisel combo. . Infinite adjustment possibilities such as bigger, hammer, etc

Fascinating. First time seeing the inside of any type of motorcycle engine and transmission

Your Harbor Freight sockets are the Real MVPs here, Old blue is Chrome and still kicking.

Perfect video! You should do more of this.

Eric, Thinking 'outside the engine compartment' - thank you! Paul (in MA)

this is a winner and you never fail to impress

Nice change of pace!

Secretly been wanting a motorcycle engine/trans tear down and you deliver! Also correct that motorcycles are typically much better taken care of.

Ouch, looks like somebody lost a shoe on that wreck! Cool to see something different, thanks for snagging it for us.

Ur channel is my favorite, thank u

Great video! Love to see Mc engines!!

I have never seen a motorcycle engine taken apart before, that was awesome.

another awesome video dude!

The jokes in this video are killers. Thank you for adding this level of comedy.

“About as useful as a wet cardboard box”… I see you too are a man of culture.

This channel is so good