Me and my bros always bump fists or hug all the time. My husband agrees it's totally platonic.

@SuperPal-tr3go

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment.

Look, I'm gay. I've been bombarded by a strictly heterosexual imagery my whole life to the point where seeing depictions of homosexuality is weird to me despite that being what I'm into. In ancient Greece, dudes had sex all the time because there were all sorts of cultural expectations that in certain common situations young men were obligated to have sex with older men. There are gays all through history, but people's feelings about men having sex with men is heavily determined by cultural norms. In modern American culture the norm is still that homosexual sex is taboo despite some thawing on that in recent years, so the only thing pushing men to want to have sex with other men is homosexual desire. Any conservatives that lament the loss of their ability to have "the Greek lifestyle" or whatever in modern America are gay (or bi, but they tend to consider those the same thing).

@sacrificezone

3 жыл бұрын

It seems like what they really miss is the opportunity to carry out affairs with other closeted men while their wives have to suffer in silence and cover for them.

@ryanthomasyee

3 жыл бұрын

@@sacrificezone It's never been easier to download an app and have a tryst but that would require these tradcaths to be somewhat conventionally attractive and in decent shape.

@olivuu3096

3 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking about today the first time I saw gay people in media at all was in family guy.

@beethovenalexander

3 жыл бұрын

First 3 words of this comment made me think i was in a Cumtown video for a sec

@mausklick1635

3 жыл бұрын

@@sacrificezone Exactly that.

Jesus died for the love of his homies. Clearly the gayest man in history

I am impressed you guys keep up with black people gossip. it is wild what is happening politics wise, pascal Roberts has his finger on the pulse of what is happening

@Queen-qd3fz

3 жыл бұрын

pascal Roberts from @thisisrevolution podcast

"When I said 'destroy the ring' that's not what I meant" - Tolkein probably

There's a really fascinating trend in photography of male friendship throughout history, where you can see that basically post WW1 (as psychological definitions of homosexuality as a mode of being came into public consciousness) men stop holding hands and holding each other in these photographs. It is terribly sad that such closeness was destroyed by the fear of being perceived as gay, and remarkably stupid that Peg would think it was on account of homosexuality being more ACCEPTED rather than more shunned.

44:36 this mf said "Dilbert and Sullivan" 😭

God damn the boys are popping off in this one

it's not gay to die with your bff. they did it in the excellent film first cow. but that skeletons holding hands twitter thing sounded gay and beautiful.

Men having romantic relationships with each other since time immemorial: I sleep Calling it the word 'gay': Real Shit

“Would you give a guy a foot massage?” 🙈💦

matt is popping off on this one

i am ashamed to say that i audibly cheered in my car when i knew the crank was coming

52:00 top tier rant, I felt all of that

@paryoticu

4 ай бұрын

Matt Christman at his best.

Gay episode. Really gay episode guys. Keep at it.

The point about Eisenhower was flat-out incorrect. He had a female chauffer while he was Supreme Commander.

conservatives resenting gay sex is one of the funniest things ever, Happy Pride!

"DE-ROG-O-TYPE" dude I'm so glad Amber didn't have the hear that lmao!!! 26:50 for those who want to relive that

THEBAN SACRED BAAAAAAND!!!

Daedalus flew at a middling height, in contrast to Icarus, who flew to high and had the wax melt.

The category he's trying to talk about is platonic love. He's sabotaging his argument by trying to do historical revisionism about various ancient Greek soldiers. This is particularly a problem for Christians because platonic love is at the heart of Christ's message, and what the church seeks to engender between its members, aka the love of God. Once you slap one or multiple sexuality designations on everything, the universal love, which is also the ultimate objective of Gautama's Noble Eight-Fold Path, gets compartmentalised and alienated, especially when people are routinely making false sexuality assertions about other people to write off their faith. It relativises the universal love and makes it therefore appear non-real, or impossible, as just being some fools' denial about some particular sexuality, in the same way that relativising faith makes monotheism appear non-real or impossible, since anyone's One God is treated as being just another god, and just another consumer choice. You're wrong about the masculine trope of emotionlessness and reserve being peculiar to America. Us Brits invented the idea of the stiff upper lip during the Napoleonic Wars, which was associated with General Lord Wellington, in the turn away from the cult of sensitivity of the Romantic poets and non-redistributive elite poverty tourism to show how much you cared and showed it openly in your face and tears while changing nothing, and which was embodied by Admiral Lord Nelson and the simultaneous turn away from the Fop fashion to the Dandy fashion of male attire we still largely wear. It's been a standard trope of masculinity across the former British Empire to differing degrees ever since. If anything it's the present cult of (equally non-redistributive) sensitivity and public emotional displays, what we used to call vulgar schmaltz, that has been fostered by Hollywood and US TV shows since the 1980s.

@justcommenting4981

3 жыл бұрын

Tm; dc Too masculine, don't care

@patrickholt2270

3 жыл бұрын

@@justcommenting4981 Whatever.

@SuperPal-tr3go

3 жыл бұрын

I never really thought about how strict categories of sexuality does end up alienating you from the idea of universal platonic love or at least its primacy. Unless your polysexual, I guess.

@patrickholt2270

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperPal-tr3go Thanks very much.

@SuperPal-tr3go

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickholt2270 Hey no problem, you earned it. It's kind of weird to realize that our society does basically consider romantic love the end all and be all with non-sexual and non-marital love as lesser because... I dunno. The concept of community is slowly dying, I guess.

hug your bros

Lol idk why Matt said “quote-unquote democratic” in that context. Ranked choice does objectively make it more democratic thank first past the post. It’s a very good thing, even if in that particular case bad political forces gamed it. It doesn’t single-handedly make our system not a plutocracy, sure, but it’s a simple, immediate step that can literally break the “YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR A NEOLIBERAL CENTER-RIGHT DEM OR ELSE A REPUBLICAN WILL WIN, SO SCREW WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT.”

Holy shit my time has come! First! Finally!!

@lancecage7320

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Comrade

@justcommenting4981

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, great starter series to first. We all mostly get up at 7:00pm, of course episodes post at 7:30pm while most are still jerking off.

where tf is chauncey sullivan ???

I’ve got to say, there was definitely an “gay identity” in Ancient Greece. There were a lot of people who were bi, but even plato’s symposium directly references gay male, lesbian and straight love, during socrates’ musings on the origins of love.

@kylehuston303

3 жыл бұрын

I also want to point out as chapo did, that the cultures with the “greatest male fraternity” are very repressive towards homosexuality. They cite China (John Wu) but I would add the Middle East too. Lots of male fraternization but homosexuality is so taboo that it’s “allowed” in straight circles

@kylehuston303

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, I love modern America in terms of our sexual openness, I feel a great deal of comradery with people regardless of sex. In an age of trans and non-binary people, that PLATONIC comradery is not limited to the same sex.

@olivuu3096

3 жыл бұрын

but muh transposed western philo/judeo-christian values

@SuperPal-tr3go

3 жыл бұрын

Was that a distinct cultural identity or just the admittance that different types of pairings existed?

@kylehuston303

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperPal-tr3go I would say it’s hard to say because cultural distinctions as they exist today were in their infancy in a place and time like Ancient Greece. Pedastery was a cultural institution in some Greek states. Not to be confused with pedophilia as most Greek states had strict laws for underage sex. Ironically, Athens, which is often remembered in our media as “boy lovers” to quote 300, was actually very sexist and homophobic, with only a few stand outs like Pericles and Aristophanes (elites).

im second and a black female

@Molecular-Brainwaves-Translate

3 жыл бұрын

as a mixed race person, i disagree

@samus598

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see color. Or people.

The Biden dogs are sort of the Baron Trump of the current administration

Really wondering how you spell "de blunglero" or w/e their nickname for de Blasio is lmao

@Shimansaji

Жыл бұрын

“de bungler” Joe de Bungler

What's the deal with these Virgil Texas allegations? Reading some not so good things these last couple of days...

@dvvfcg4755

3 жыл бұрын

They're not substantiated in anyway whatsoever.

@FridatheGator

3 жыл бұрын

Red Scare did a little bit about it, and it sounds pretty vague.

@polkadotmicrochip

3 жыл бұрын

Who fucking cares.

@leviathan-supersystem

3 жыл бұрын

What was said?

@justcommenting4981

3 жыл бұрын

I mean. He *is* a gamer. I purchased $5 of bathwater 2 months ago and nothing. NAME AND SHAME!

Pretty funny to hear Christman call someone a human 8 ball with hindsight.

There’s nothing sexy about the past. Everyone smelled bad

@slickstufneatstuf

7 ай бұрын

That's hot.

@jnakhoul

7 ай бұрын

@@slickstufneatstuf geez never considered that

Wish I could clip and share this

Like, I would like to say like, that I did it like this and like that with like a wiffle ball bat like, you know like for real.

Champ is dead?!

This Peg guy reminds me a lot of these guys.

Chris's production is so lame, bring back Brendan

@justcommenting4981

3 жыл бұрын

Hey c'mon. His mom reads these comments.