Could Our Idea of Reality Be Totally Upside Down?
Could our idea of reality be completely upside down? Could it be that the entire universe is made of infinite consciousness, not matter? And could our mistaken view of the nature of reality be the reason for all the suffering and despair in the world?
A man asks how something can be made of consciousness when it is not conscious. How are objects also made of consciousness, like a table or mountain? In other words, how do we know that consciousness is all that exists? He would like to have a direct experience of the understanding that everything is made of consciousness, or that everything is one or the same reality.
Rupert explains that all materialists, even long-term meditators and teachers, believe that on one side of creation there is matter and on the other side consciousness. They feel that there is a line drawn down the centre of reality where all animals and people have consciousness but all things do not have consciousness, in other words, they are made of matter.
But does matter exist? Scientists have been looking for it for thousands of years and still haven't found it. Conversely, is there evidence that the ultimate reality of everything, including inanimate objects, is consciousness?
Through various examples, Rupert guides the man to see that there is no evidence for anything other than consciousness. Therefore, the belief that consciousness is derived from matter is madness, since matter is an abstracted idea from consciousness itself.
This clip was taken from the 7 Day In-Person Retreat at the Mercy Center between October 24-31, 2021.
Timestamps:
00:00 Direct Experience of Pure Consciousness
02:30 Matter Vs Consciousness
03:40 The Nature of Reality is Pure Consciousness
04:30 Evidence That Everything is Consciousness
04:53 Are Thoughts Conscious?
05:45 Direct Experience of Consciousness
07:05 Our Minds Are Mini Fields of Consciousness
07:53 Dream Example of Consciousness
09:59 The Entire Universe Is The Activity of Consciousness
11:22 Knowing Consciousness Is The Only Certainty
12:10 Materialists Search For Matter
14:00 Changing Our View of Reality to End Suffering in The World
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This clip is a gem. Highest of the highest knowledge yet so simple if we stick to our immediate experience. Grateful to be alive at a time when knowledge like this is available.
@grantjohnson5795
Жыл бұрын
Well said and completely agree 🤗
@spiritfilled5758
Жыл бұрын
What do you suppose it will look like when we die, will we still have experience?
@482jpsquared
Жыл бұрын
@@spiritfilled5758 The key question is - can we have experience without perception? - and vice versa.
Nothing can beat Rupert's talks in clarity and patience ...
@vincentleshotho
Жыл бұрын
Rupert cannot disappoint. He is the living example of what CLARITY means with his teachings. Thank you
I just love it when Rupert declares, "It's madness!" Makes me feel all warm inside.
@polepallesatish
Жыл бұрын
Insted madness is also Consciousness 🤩
The world spends alot of time and effort "moving the furniture around" Beautiful analogy
You are dearly loved. Thank you for sharing such quality content with us all
@siriusBhive
Жыл бұрын
Dàaa m seen this one. The answer is (It's not consciousness), it's cognition! Am i right 😎🖕
Maybe one of the most crystal clear explanations of the nature of reality uttered in the modern era.
@miles6875
8 ай бұрын
Perfect comment
So clear, so easy to follow without resistance, thank you 🙏
I think there is only Rupert, who could de bunk something that, certainly for me, most of my life I have sub consciously believed, so fundamentally, (matter and me separately) and turn it on its head in such a lucid way, that you get that ‘aha, of course’ moment, and in under thirteen minutes ! Genius
This is why I have a deep appreciation for genuine nonduality teachers. These are paradigm shattering concepts. Such a change in perception can cause a great deal of discomfort but is so worth it in the long run.
Excellent explanation of a difficult to grasp concept. I would like to add that part of the reason we usually don't think that the "real" world is a product of consciousness is because we rely heavily on our physical senses.
@mariossavvides2287
Жыл бұрын
And our conditioning..
@carlavela7106
Жыл бұрын
In the 80's there was a 16 year old girl, Susan, that she could talk to matter and animals and all kinds of beings. She could talk to a chair, or a table even with a toilet paper. The first time I listen to her was really strange for me, but I believe what she was saying because she said that everything is Consciousness. A lot a people laughed at her. She even took down some videos of her talking to things. Then as she grew up she stop doing these videos. Now she makes videos but they are only about coaching stuff.
The irony: the materialist adopts a belief that puts oneself outside the possibility of knowing oneself (including oneself) as one with "matter" in consciousness! What an self-imposed exile!
@martinwagner7361
Жыл бұрын
And an entirely ABSURD dead end street to logic & science ITSELF....because by WHAT MEANS then the Materialist would EVER be able to know ANYTHING ? Including science or that s/he actually even EXISTS ? INSTANTLY Logic reveals by NO MEANS. So the one that cannot know anything tries to know something, lol. Total collapse of reason....😋 Profound pathological & pathetic IGNORANCE. And ARROGANCE. Like too dumb to know anything but so damn special to know something....🤭 Recipe for the mental asylum....😁
Amazing, simple direct path to how things are, absolutely wonderful thank you...
Rupert Spira emanates his light made of profound non-dual knowledge into the air and illuminates the atmosphere in the form of luminous words. Thank you Rupert for spreading your light in the world.
So many people propose that reality as we experience it is a grand mathematical equation, or extraordinarily advanced computer simulation, to cite two examples. All I know about reality is that I AM - and therein lies the biggest clue as to what reality is
@Thealienspacepod
Жыл бұрын
Concerning the computer simulation theory, the question is are we the program or the power cord
@Thealienspacepod
Жыл бұрын
Who runs the computer ?
@Thealienspacepod
Жыл бұрын
@@Poljnmn Yes anything it creates is an activity or an expression of it like a dream
@Pumasarah
Жыл бұрын
Neville Goddard….
Fabulous 👏
Just wonderful. So precious. So grateful. Thank you.
Thank you. Beautifully and clearly explained 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
The great pioneering scientific work Donald Hoffman is doing right now may one day give rise to the mathematics and "proofs" necessary to convince materialists of the truth that Rupert is explaining here and which is so obvious to those who practice self-inquiry. I encourage anyone to check out his stuff!
@MeskDaKrull
Жыл бұрын
Glad you bring him up. Was just listening to his talk with Lex Friedman and can only confirm that anyone who resonates with Spiras words here and are keen on a more technical, scientific point of view equivalent to Spiras would rejoice in that conversation.
@a1librarian
Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes! Don Hoffman and Rupert should talk😃
@joannemoore3976
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same re: Donald Hoffman 👍
@MindVersusMisery
Жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 Tom Campbell was fairly recently on Spiras channel for a talk about the fundamentals of reality. A very interesting conversation indeed.
@a1librarian
Жыл бұрын
@@joannemoore3976 also Mark Gober’s An End to Upside Down Thinking!
This is a good one. This one hit me. Not all of his videos do, but some are pure gold.
Excellent explanation. Thank you!
Finally ! I got it ! It just need a shift of vantage point and really realise that consciousness is not personnal. Thank you 🙏🙏
Wow ... This is a totally exceptional talk. Beyond anything I have heard before yet, somehow, totally accessible and intuitive 🙏
Can a thought view you, Question you, examine you. When I was a kid I was active sleepwalking dreamer, The majority of that experience was me finding myself along for the ride experiencing things that I was not consciously thinking of or making up but rather viewing and experiencing things that I would’ve never thought up. Psychologist said the only you can control your dreams, So I went with that and attempted to eliminate the experience as a kid mind you. While I was somewhat successful I was not entirely successful and controlling what happened when I close my eyes and fell sleep. Later I began to consider it a form of possession. My grandfather was dreaming that a bear was after him while sleeping, He proceeded to try and escape and broke his neck. He survived, question is was the bear hey figment of his imagination or an intruder. Your work fascinates me when it’s opening my eye a little. I had considered myself and still do a Christian, but the deeper I dig the more I find the discrepancies and the lies of those that came before. Just wanted to say thank you for offering a little peace of mind that I could search out myself with a little instruction. Sometimes that’s all you want
Worlds one of the most spirituality specialists and so simple and humble. Hats off to you 🎉
Without question you have this wonderful gift of metaphor, that effortlessly slices right through to the very center of our hearts and restoring us to the all inclusive Oneness. You are such a blessing at this pivotal time.
beautifully explained !!
This is absolute gold!
Madness Indeed! Fantastic! Peace to all!
Muchísimas gracias!!!!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Brillante Rupert !!!! 💙💙✨✨🙏
Wow. Mind-blowing!
We may not be in a straight contact with matter, but we can see the traces that matter leaves behind or the consequences if you like. And that is how we know that matter is out there. I hope that Rupert will explain farther about, in a future video.
Perfectly spoken!
It’s definitely a more acceptable explanation than the currently accepted paradigm. I don’t think that can be denied.
wow just so clearly explained, like i've never heard it someone say before. why its always delivered in metaphors when it's so simple? thank you!
You are a genious, Rupert. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Of course it is upside down! I wake up and build up the slide from the back side with calculus, here I am at the top and I slide down. The insight or awakening is the shape of that slide revealed by the movement, the shape is true. I wake up again from seeing the difference and comparing, and then the calculus to justify this again begins. Work then play. Eros like a buffer, those little steps up the slope leaving a space. On universal scale too, with perhaps the Planck curve the buffer between the quantum calculus and our moving realization. Two paces of moving to a higher entropy state, but the movement so efficient it all arrives at almost the same moment. Consciousness everywhere! edit: Forgot to say thank you, I must be 'slipping' .
Thank You !!!
Another way of explaining sunyata. The Heart Sutra. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. The Prajnaparamita. Dependent origination necessitates the emptiness of independence.
truly mind blowing ❤
Thank you! This is very helpful, albeit I’ll need to let it sink a bit :-)
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant!
This video clearly sets the record straight 🔥
Great explanation of idealism. Only one remark, until we keep calling each other mad, we'll never come to and end with this dualism between materialists calling idealists mad and vice versa. We are all conscious and intelligent being and both have good reasons to believe the one or the other.
Exactly Rupert!!! The separation of matter and consciousness believed to be true by the materialists _is_ the root cause of all conflicts seen in the external world. The world we see "outside" is just a mirror of that mistakenly made error! God bless
Good video 😊
That was a really excellent presentation. I now know that he is right
wonderfull!🙏❤
11.46: "untill our view of reality changes nothing we do temporarily to do with any of those issues or related issues will make much difference.."True.. imo our view of reality is more immature than mistaken,humanity is a work in progress...
Awesome video. Bravo
Excellent! 👍
In the early 90s I found a book, the Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot. In one of the chapters, one theologic scientist suggested that consciousness creates matter. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense.
Ervin Laszlo covers this in his book Science and the Akashic field; an Integral Theory of Everything
This is the highest teaching of Upanishads... Propagated by Rishis of ancient India.. Non duality principal.. Very well explained by Rupert... Thanks & regards. 🙏
There are a lot of various definitions to the term "awakening" when applied in a spiritual connotation. Yet, I feel that Rupert here offers us what should stand as the primary understanding of the term. As this understanding then leads directly to accurate interpretations of "Self Realization", and further onward to "Enlightenment". Not that intellectual clarity can substitute for the experience of true Knowledge, yet it can at least offer us a signboard pointing us in the right direction rather than another random detour.
He’s standing on the shoulders of giants, Neville Goddard in particular. Wonderful
Interesting. I need to listen to this a few times. So death (of our body) is an extension of our consciousness.
Thank you kindly for your reply. It is clear that the ego is perceived by consciousness, The question I was trying to ask in light of the talk was; Is the ego conscious or is it inanimate? Best regards, Brendan
Sage Ashtravakra taught us the direct path many many centuries back. His bold and curt narration of advatia is not popular. Our unevolved binary minds needs a Rupert to get past its stubbornness of binary. He takes pain to break dn the binary into unity.
We're all eternal beings living a human experience at the present time.
"Quantum mechanics says that classical objects-including brains-don’t exist. I’m claiming that experiences are the real coin of the realm. The experiences of everyday life-my real feeling of a headache, my real taste of chocolate-that really is the ultimate nature of reality." - Donald Hoffman, author of The Case Against Reality.
@josevalverde2263
Жыл бұрын
Experience is the ultimate nature of reality-Experience is a bodily sensation in awareness.
Wow..just wow
Thank you! I appreciate this very much. You speak my thoughts. I agree with you, I'm just wondering, what is the next step back? I'll add more comments after I get out from sauna. Or maybe tomorrow. 😊 Namaste
@yogionthebike
Жыл бұрын
Now I read your about page. Very interesting. I guess we will have an interesting conversation about what "I am". 😊
Materialism is a hypnotic state to keep people dumb.
Rupert, I love you 🌹
Amazing 😇
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti 🕉️🙏 Sat-Chit-Ananda 🕉️🙏♥️
Excellent
@josefeijoo7415
Жыл бұрын
a pesar de hablar español le entiendo a Rupert pero, este video tengo que repetirlo para poder asimilarlo y absorberlo ¡¡¡¡
@agnieszkapiskorska3153
Жыл бұрын
I dont understand, but I'd like to
@eekay5710
Жыл бұрын
@@agnieszkapiskorska3153 Maybe listen to Eckhart Tolle or Mooji first, then when ready, come back to Rupert's teachings, as he obviously have wisdom we can learn from. (only an suggestion :)
I’m still not quite there. Why should i imagine a thought and a table are made out of the same thing? I get it thoughts are in consciousness, made of consciousness but not themselves conscious, ok. But thoughts and tables have nothing in common aside from not being conscious. Tables aren’t made of concepts, I can’t set my drink on a concept. And I can’t drink an idea. Thoughts and matter are fundamentally different yet he seems to be arguing they’re more alike that different.
@6:20 Rupert Spira uses an assumption that dreams happpen and/or are created in our own minds. I think that dreams can be build from an external source, and that external source can be conscious or not.
This is the only video you will ever need
My belief is that the table does have consciousness of a particular kind (so I agree with this). (I wrote this comment before listening to the entire video. HAHA!) This exists in its molecules ... it's vibrational existence. This results in a cooperation that holds it together in the shape it assumes. This vibrational quality of consciousness is aware of its existence but nothing more. And this is only the case because it is energetic ... or "excited" ... vibration. This is not separate from us but more of a cooperative action (that's difficult to explain ).
I will never support materialism....sadly our entire foundation rests on materialism. I want no part of it. This is why I never pursued a degree in physics. I refuse to endorse the staus quo.
I agree
Let's imagine the table is consciousness. Then current physics and physical law as the relations between things and energy is still applicable. So whether you call a quark conciousness or material: the science is the same. Materialistic science is still true It's just the question if you want to be able to understand and explain the human inner experience as observer with the structure we are made of, or not. And we are not sure even if we can, so until that is settled this position can still be held. Psychologically it is still always an interesting position, and can be helpful for some. However the fact I can operate surgery on your brain and influence your experience, doesn't look good for this position
@Robinson8491
Жыл бұрын
@Nobody Home did you watch the video? I'm replying to that
For the first time this point of view made sense to me, and don't think I could go back now.
very good
I want to believe what he’s saying is true so much.
🙏🏻
Yes!
It is totally upside down only in the sense that we feel we are separate when there is no such thing as separation on any level whatsoever.
be interesting to have you discuss the theory that we are in a simulation. And agree that everything is made of consciousness, or awareness, or what we might crudely say is "god", but I sometimes sense objects without consciousness still knowing themselves in some inexplicable way. For example, not only sound just sounding, but itself "aware" of sounding, and so on. Or am I just picking up the inherent nature of everything being awareness? Comment? TA
Wow
I would recommend listening to Rudolph Steiner's ( died in 1925) or read his numerous books to begin to understand that the Universe and man are spititual in nature and that the Universe itself is governed by very different spiritual beings
Yes!😃
I fully agree with Rupert here but I would have liked to see him directly address an obvious counter argument that would have arisen as he was discussing whether or not 'the table' is conscious. Okay, the table appears in consciousness, is made of consciousness but is not 'itself' conscious. Now, turn to one of the people in attendance and ask the same question. How do we get around the conventional view that 'this person' is him/herself conscious? I think a possible approach is to distinguish between the appearance of 'a being' and the *experience* of being--but I would have loved to hear how Rupert would respond.
@josevalverde2263
Жыл бұрын
Not conscious means not self conscious. Not being knowingly conscious. That is the case of most humans.
Listened to this a few times. Starting to understand it. So the matter around us, we /you are saying that this is the wrong way to see reality? Our money, our new car, the things around us, the totality of all the things around us? They are the wrong way to see reality? I agree with you mostly. (What about our physical body: it that is just consciousness?) Will continue to listen🙏🤔😄.
@GeertMeertens
Жыл бұрын
Yes, your body is consciousness. It has got to be consciousness because consciousness is all there is. As in any dream.
@knowthetruth311
Жыл бұрын
Infact you better listen more😹😹this is gold mine hidden on an interface
The absolute crux of the matter. Gold.
This seems very much similar to what I have studied in the Buddhist abhidhamma.
Paul Selig's books teach this concept. A shared field created by consciousness.
Which comes first, existence, consciousness or awareness?
These words are like a Big slap in "my"face, beacause they make fall away all "my" beliefs about the nature of this experience called LIFE. This is a dream, Who is the dreamer?? I don't know, i can't know, i don't care.... What i know is that after the beliefs fall , what remains is LOVE This is my nature , when i'm divested of seriousness.
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I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but If you really listen to this man he makes perfect sense, but like me there are to many blunt knives in the planet, and that’s why this simple thing will never be resolved.
How did we determine that a thought is made of consciousness?
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12 minutes of a wisdom that could change the entire course of history. It seems to me that natural selection can not explain the existence of dreams in humans they don’t have any survival advantage other than give a hint to humanity that point to the direction of reality and hence the only way to get permanent peace and happiness in the world.
Can you just tell me the King Lear story again Rupert. I get that LOL!
There is no dead matter...everything is consciousness. That consciousness might be different and we don't understand that consciousness for example rocks, plants... There is a difference with selfconsciousness...
I have experienced a complete other “ totally real “ world that seemed as real as this world that i experienced within my own conciseness . So I feel I have proven this to be completely true …