I love how the conversation very quickly devolves from "could LeBron James beat MewTwo in a regulation game with no powers" to "Powerscaling lore accurate LeBron James to see how hard this mf DUNKS on Pokémon"

@kevnLreemsj

Ай бұрын

Would you like to play Gacha life with me

@TyranntX

Ай бұрын

Yeah, Mewtwo wrecks Lebron, period. This video didn’t even account for Mewtwo’s mind reading feats, or the fact he DOESN’T need a stone to mega evolve into EITHER of his mega forms. Matpat would not have missed this detail.

@corynnightshade9049

Ай бұрын

​@@TyranntXIt did though. Mega Evolution isn't allowed as it is an Outside object that enhances abilities and it stated toward the end and showed that MewTwo's Mind Reading can still be snuck up on. As for lore references, in not only the Games but also every form of Media MewTwo has appeared in, it has been surprised or caught in spite of its severe mental prowess. Anyways, have a lovely day!

@bryantechno4704

Ай бұрын

Honestly I think mewto could just use his telepathy to figure out where LeBron is. Like yh it's possible to sneak up on mewto but if it focuses on LeBron's location then maybe...

@Paradox-es3bl

Ай бұрын

But he literally compared wanked composite Lebron to FEATLESS Mewtwo. Didn't take into account Mewtwo's speed, reaction times, nothing. Gotta powerscale both or it's a trash video.

This might be Tom’s “Sans is Ness” breakthrough theory moment.

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

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@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

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@TheSwordsman100

Ай бұрын

Well he did not use the actual Mewtwo from the games, so I guess that is a point in favor of the idea.

@derrickdaniels3955

Ай бұрын

What are these bots?

@cheeseandhat

Ай бұрын

​@@derrickdaniels3955Report them for terrorism and ignore them

There is one thing you're forgetting about. Mewtwos innate ability of either pressure or unnerve. Those aren't from any item enhancements. It's innate, so Mewtwo can use it to affect LeBron

@Reino_san

Ай бұрын

They also did not look at Mewtwo's level up movesets which it naturally learned without needing TM discs.

@33pandagamer

Ай бұрын

I'm not sure how stopping LeBron from eating barriers would help, but pressure would definitely be a huge benefit.

@KBRoller

Ай бұрын

Unless LeBron is eating berries on the court, unnerve doesn't matter. And I guess pressure would be equivalent to like... each shot makes him a little more tired?

@anunakixxxxxxx

Ай бұрын

wait a second what about natures

@darthgames3

26 күн бұрын

​@@KBRoller The thing about Unnerve is not that it just makes opponents unable to eat berries, it's that the reason for why it does so is because it makes the opponents *too nervous* to eat berries. So, not only would LeBron be more tired and heavier because of pressure, he could also be too nervous to even dribble or shoot correctly. Mewtwo stomps and it's not even close.

So LeBron gets powers from any source, including satirical comics, but not Mewtwo? Also, Mewtwo can't mess with LeBron's mind cause it's against the rules, but LeBron can break the rules "as long as he doesn't get caught"? This feels like quite the one sided ref, not unlike a lot of Lakers games I guess.

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

“Just because it’s not in the rules, doesn’t mean it’s okay to use it if it’s detrimental to the sport.”

@GODOFAWSOMENESS1

Ай бұрын

He also let Mewtwo use powers that would be against the spirit of the game.

@DaxSkrai

Ай бұрын

@@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 Wouldn't LeBron's "I block any projectile by existing, haha suck it" ability be against the spirit of the game as well? Going invisible and making clones isn't against the spirit of the game?

@GODOFAWSOMENESS1

Ай бұрын

@@DaxSkrai it would yes.

@moobattle

Ай бұрын

ok but consider lebron beating mewtwo is really funny

This episode might have the best and strangest thumbnail ever

@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

*I'm sad because today is my birthday and I didn't have any subscribers* 💕🥲😭

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

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@kentity5272

Ай бұрын

@@PomniSimp144you got the subs, you may rest now

@TheCoolDude4

Ай бұрын

FIRST WARNING FOR ENGAGING IN A LOGICAL FALLACY. MY C.O.N.T.E.N.T = BETTER THEN MATPAT. I HOPE HE NEVER RETURNS.

@sweetsharonda

Ай бұрын

​@@PomniSimp144Good.

counterpoint: "me first" is in mewtwo's natural learnset, bypasses accuracy checks (meaning it can still hit targets with high evasiveness like lebron's invisibility), and with base 130 speed putting mewtwo in the top 20 fastest gen 9 pokemon, any attempt of dunking made by lebron would be pre-emptively countered by mewtwo dunking first

@curlyfrize7675

Ай бұрын

Also TMs and HMs are to my understanding quick learning devices not some kind of drug or equipment that allows him to surpass his natural abilities if LeBron gets superpowers from other dimensions Mewtwo gets TMs and HMs also I could be mistaken but I believe in one of the movies Mewtwo could mega evolve without the use of a mega stone

@OasisAipom

Ай бұрын

@@curlyfrize7675 IKR WHY SHOULD LEBRON GET STUFF THAT ISN'T EVEN CANON TO HIM WHILE MEWTWO CAN'T GET THE STUFF CANON TO THEM???

@abhidayaratnatamrakar4275

Ай бұрын

​@@OasisAipom One word. Entertainment

@hologaster

Ай бұрын

@@curlyfrize7675 So yeah, the only thing Mewtwo can't use is the mega X form, X items and berries. Which reminds me, Mewtwo can absolutely Mega evolve into Mega mewtwo Y.

@doim1676

Ай бұрын

But the speed stat of a pokemon isnt necessarily linked to his actual top speed across a distance. Its more like how fast can the pokemon attack. Plus we dont know the pokemon stats of a human. We have no idea what the pokemon stats of a human were, so we can't use stats at all to compare mewtwo to leBron

Defense for Mewtwo: Level Up Moveset 1. Confusion: Like just make him confused about something arbitrary, his tunnel vision and concentration may break.(This could be banned) 2. Disable: Its a bit leaning towards the unorthodox side but Mewtwo can just cancel the abilities that LJ does have. 3. Safeguard: Self-explanatory 4. Future Sight: He can find where the ball will be in the future as long as the ball is visible, which it has to be at some point. Plus you can't count a point if the ref or judge doesn't see the ball go into the net in the first place, so the ball must be visible, which then cascades into Mewtwo being able to do his moves.

15:40 this scene in the comics shows that turning anything invisible turns her visible... so lebron can only turn himself or the ball invisible...

Tom's doing a great job speedrunning to matpat level of insanity

@Goblinboyo162

Ай бұрын

I actually think game theory has gone a bit crazy since matpats absence

@paulinelol3930

Ай бұрын

Yea same as santi, lets see if lee and amy grow anymore insane lol

@supersonicsandshrew9742

Ай бұрын

Shame santi already beat him there

@David280GGantiuttp1

Ай бұрын

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@AUTTP_walmartbag-zy2mo

Ай бұрын

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Mewtwo naturally learns the technique "miracle eye" which would allow it to see an invisible target

@chagorith

Ай бұрын

also Mist, which could something similar and Barrier to counter lebron's block, not to mention Disable and Future Sight

@gamegrinder0126

Ай бұрын

​@@chagorithfuture sight would attack the opponent causing it to be against the rules but the rest still gives Mewtwo the win, in my opinion ofc.

@christophergolden1635

Ай бұрын

I'm not too sure about the rules of basketball but couldn't you challenge the play if he went invisible with the ball? You could say he did an "illegal basketball move" and we couldn't see it. The way I kinda imagined the invisibility was like a short teleport or blink to get behind the opponent

@MartenZomerman-mp4rr

Ай бұрын

As a tutor move mewtwo learns gravity which grounds everyone on the field so Lebron can’t block and he can’t dunk so he has to throw and when he throws mewtwo can take te bal

@christophergolden1635

Ай бұрын

@@MartenZomerman-mp4rr that would physically hender LeBron movement, which is why it's banned

You do realize that you have psychic senses and can hear him very well since you is a literal cat even if he is invisible plus Mewtwo could go invisible and make after images too

@DeadEye42069

Ай бұрын

Inverts gravity, mind controls, nah Lebron definitely has any chance 👍

Ik it would be fair to add lebrons video game abilities since mewtwo is a video game character also but I’m pretty sure in this situation we are talking about the normal Lebron vs mewtwo since he is debatably the best player in basketball so that’s why they chose him, not because of the comics or video games he is in

Sees the thumbnail My brain: F*ck no Lebron won’t win, Other side of my brain: You are my sunshine, my only sunshine

@aniltare3784

Ай бұрын

*that one image of Lebron in front of the f*cking sun

@ivysaur2thefirst

Ай бұрын

You are my Solrock, my only Solrock

@zerajm

Ай бұрын

my reaction was, mewtwo wins, no questions.

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Ай бұрын

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There is a big flaw here. Lebron's counter only works on PROJECTILES, and since mewtwo's telepathic manipulation of the ball was considered physical, Lebron's counter would not work, meaning that they would jsut keep trading points rather than Lebron always countering.

@FrostedMike

Ай бұрын

Which makes it a surprisingly even match. It gets better if you take into consideration Mewtwo's superior speed and Lebron's superior experience. This might be Mewtwo's first ever basketball match so he goes in only knowing the rules and possibly training a little before the match, while Lebron is breathing basketball and is leagues more experienced. This is before any powers with purely their physical abilities. This is an interesting match.

@hypergamer1558

Ай бұрын

But dont forget lebron can make decoys meaning he could just make a decoy mewtwo would think hes there then he could just grab the ball out of psychic while floating then gg

@ghost_curse

Ай бұрын

@@hypergamer1558 I feel like making a decoy would be considered an unfair advantage, since it wouldn't exactly be a 1v1 at that point

@sanhakim1335

Ай бұрын

And it also assumes that Mewtwo, a being with intelligence far surpassing any human, would continue shooting the ball straight into Lebron's hands instead of waiting half a second for lebron to fall back down to the ground. And if psychic powers count as physical contact, there's nothing stopping him from ripping the ball out of lebron's hands even before he goes for a shot. If we go by the rules in this video, Mewtwo could just levitate the ball 50 ft in the air and shoot it at mach speeds to the net and release his powers so blocking would be illegal, and Lebron could never even get the ball above net height without it being ripped out of his hands.

@knaughta.masso-kist5944

Ай бұрын

All the Mootoo​ defenders in the comments conveniently ignoring the decoy point lol@@hypergamer1558

How thick is a stick in Minecraft

@Nuke1ncoming

22 күн бұрын

As thick is Tom's head after this theory (very thick)

Love how this goes from “could lebron beat mewtwo” to “can comic book and video game lebron beat mewtwo”

Mewtwo with a little bit of research vs LeBron with every appearance possible in order to squeeze out a chance of winning

@lukachas3789

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@Mamutels

Ай бұрын

Bro is upset because they did mew two dirty

@Talha312

Ай бұрын

​​@UTubeTrollPoliceNWO💀

@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185

Ай бұрын

Plus,no way decoys are allowed in a 1 on 1 game. That defeats the purpose of 1 on 1.

@fearsometooth3839

Ай бұрын

Ik!! Both mew and mewtwo are also able to turn invisible in the show!! No way LeBron wins

mewtwo be ballin, ngl.

@𠔁

Ай бұрын

Don’t translate...😠 भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु….. . こむちわ

@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

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@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.

@blizzyfoxanimations

Ай бұрын

@@𠔁your just a bot

@Chekmate-em3mc

Ай бұрын

I’m not disappointed just very mad

This is my first game theory video without matt. Just wanted to say good job, I really like your energy

This might be future classic 😂 that Intro was golden

Ain't no way we got Mewtwo vs lebron James before GTA 6

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

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@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

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@Forest_thatcat

Ай бұрын

Trying to clean up the bot replies by reporting them.

@AverageKatz

Ай бұрын

@@Forest_thatcat our world is healing

@iixlying2130

Ай бұрын

I literally commented this without seeing this 💀

You forgot to mention how Mewtwo can just hold the ball and teleport, and even if that isn't allowed, Mewtwo is canonically known for being aircraft level speed. Mewtwo also can see into the future, create mist along the entire court, use power swap AND guard swap, along with disable and confusion. (All of these are from level up, not TMS) Mewtwo could swap defensive abilities, disable invisibility, and oops forgot to mention- LeBron James couldn't even touch Mewtwo with the force fields Mewtwo is canonically shown to make in the movie. Who's to say Mewtwo can't just put up a force field around him, hold the ball, teleport to the rim, float there and just pass the ball through the hoop?

@jwillhall4061

Ай бұрын

I'm so glad somebody else thought to look at Mewtwo's natural moves.

@abhidayaratnatamrakar4275

Ай бұрын

Everyone knows mewtwo slams. This basically was less mewtwo vs levron james and more mewtwo at his most basic level against lebron at his fictional peak

@FineSeasoning

Ай бұрын

@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 Nice analysis man.

@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702

Ай бұрын

​@@FineSeasoningit's not that I like Mewtwo, it's that I hate LeBron. If this was Michael Jordon VS Mewtwo, I would've stayed quiet.

@St4rNitr0Dios

Ай бұрын

Everything u just said is invalid the very momment u mentioned future sight then at that point mewtwo would just bait lebron in taking the ball with denial and use future sight to just camp at the very spot lebron would dunk to pull a counter, no flight or shield needed....(edit) oh and if you pay attention denial only works for projectiles 10:50 so lebron cant block/steal the ball if mewtwo is still holding it so yeah TLDR mewtwo just says "nah id win gg ez"

This is a well presented video. Hope to see more of what you have to bring.

on this episode of "things I never expected to be in a game theory video"

There's actually one big mistake in this theory! Mewtwo doesn't actually need the stones to mega evolve. In both "Genesect and the Legend Awakened" and "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX." Mewtwo is able to mega evolve without using anything. I believed it's called an awakened form, and Mewtwo is able to mega evolve into both forms. With this in mind, I think Mewtwo would beat Lebron even with his comic powers.

@DelphinSquared

Ай бұрын

The question then would be, can he see LeBron invisible in Mega Mewtwo Y?

@hollymoore8424

Ай бұрын

Yes because y form increases his psyhic powers including his telepathy

@JoshuaEgan-nw5ps

Ай бұрын

Exactly, I actually just sent a comment talking about the movie and how mewtwo actually would win and I did the math to calculate his speed becuase no has. I’d check it out and stuff

@asrielthegameryt7834

Ай бұрын

@@JoshuaEgan-nw5ps i think everyone is forgetting mewtwo can fly-

@MaliEmpireKing

Ай бұрын

Bro went gear 4 💀

I don't think this is really all that sound: 1- Learning TMs before the fight should be allowed because Lebron is perfectly allowed to learn new moves or techniques before the fight. That means that: A- Mewtwo could use Psychic Noise to bypass Lebron's 'Substitute' B- Mewtwo could use Disable ( learned at level 1 ) to Disable Lebron's Invisibility or Substitutes, and also Imprison to stop Lebron from using Substitutes of his own. C- Mewtwo could use Brick Break to shatter Lebron's sheild. D- Aura Sphere Ignores evasion changes, so Mewtwo would still be able to hit Lebron despite him being invisible. E- Mewtwo could use Swagger to confuddle Lebron before he even gets the chance to pull his tricks. 2- Mewtwo has been shown in media other than the games to be Capable of Mega Evolution without the required stone. Pokken Tournament especially. 3- I'm fairly certain turning completely invisible is 'against the spirit of the game'

@GreyAdvent

Ай бұрын

Yeah they just looked for any excuse so LeBron could win, this theory ain't theorying

@thrawn1stgaming

Ай бұрын

aura sphere can also be learned from level up in level up in every game except lets go

@bigjalapeno7061

Ай бұрын

Yea you're probably right

@nono-ux3uo

Ай бұрын

Yes and no mewto only has 4 moves slots available

@dragonmasterri9006

Ай бұрын

Also in multiversus, LeBron can only use his block on items that aren't bring held, so if mewtwos psychic abilities count as holding the ball, then his block won't work

Only problem, Mewtwo needs to ALSO dribble, so, implies that mewtwo needs to get enough power to slam the ball into the ground, and getting back up without LeBron getting it. So Mewtwo can't just hold the ball to the goal.

First of if Mewtwo doesn't get to have a mega stone LeBron doesn't get item powerups. I would also say the best set for Mewtwo would be the ability pressure, and moves barrier, mist, recover, and either psychic or aura sphere which are all obtainable naturally. Pressure would tire LeBron out twice as fast, barrier would be used to block the ball, mist to obscure LeBron's vision, recover to increase Mewtwo's stamina, and psychic would allow mewtwo to manipulate the ball or aura sphere would let him have 100% accuracy with the ball but it could still be blocked.

“MooToo 😭”

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

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@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

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@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

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@Lauren.E.O

Ай бұрын

“MooToo: The Psychic Bovine Pokémon. This lab-created Pokémon is known for its strong psychic abilities and inexplicable shooting and rebounding skills.”

@NCR_Man

Ай бұрын

@@alphaa2010womp womp

The beginning: Mewtwo would be really limited by the rules The end: Lebron can just pull out shadow clone jitsu, invisibility, flying, and a magic picket fence and he can win, but Mewtwo still isn't allowed to just teleport the ball into the net

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

Erm maybe because it wouldn’t count as a shot nor a dunk. You can’t just take the ball and instantly put it in the net without it being shot or held

@ImpIsDum

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2Scrappy In that case Mewtwo could just teleport themselves there. Also why not?

@kennethgodwin2461

Ай бұрын

did you watch the video or did you just tune out after the first few minutes?

@ImpIsDum

Ай бұрын

@@kennethgodwin2461 i watched it

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

@@kennethgodwin2461 the entire thing. U mad your little purple cat Pokémon god can’t beat Lebron James. Get over pissy boy. Ik yo ahh get zero ho’s bruh.

This is the first full video I've watched since Pat retired, regrettably so. You've taken up the mantle beautifully

Physical contact doesn't require physical contact. Didn't realize a basketball theory would involve so much mental gymnastics.

Just wanna say, even though it doesn't affect much, the anime/movie Mewtwo was capable of achieving mega evolution without the need for mega stone. In the event of compositing data like this, a mega stone is not necessary. (Note this has only been recorded to allow him to turn into Mewtwo Y, but figured it should still be mentioned)

@vyor8837

Ай бұрын

Also just... LeBron can't turn the ball invisible.

@tristanbowles7258

Ай бұрын

Also Mewtwo is absurdly faster than LeBron. Mewtwo will 100% have first possession and should be able to steal the ball easily whenever LeBron isn’t holding it.

@ccjiu8496

Ай бұрын

If Mewtu can't use tms he can't use pack with the Powerup or his rings. Me first is obvious but as an example it can get Snetch through Movetutor which should be legit. Miracle Eye goes through sub and normalizes evasiones so it could hit James. There are more but it would be silly to write them all down...

@TyranntX

Ай бұрын

Oh 100% he didn’t need a stone in Pokkén tournament either, so both forms would be at his disposal.

@Bill30006

Ай бұрын

​@@tristanbowles7258forget base speed, mewtwo gets teleport, can't really get faster than instant

It feels like Nitpicking LeBron to only use his strongest powers, but MewTwo only his weakest.

@suchangburagohain

Ай бұрын

Exactly.

@mariospiotta2823

Ай бұрын

Bro we are not talking about a 1v1 fight but a basketball game... That means that some of the overpowered powers that Mewtwo could use aren't allowed because against the rules

@JPH-7710

Ай бұрын

@@mariospiotta2823 Not necessarily true even tho he can’t use psychic powers to hold lebron mewtwo can still score immediately once getting possession. Idk why he made it sound like mewtwo was slow when he uses his ability once he gets the ball he can just fire straight from where he stands before lebron can even acknowledge it. Also TMs and HMs can still be used since it’s not considered consumption of a drug that enhances one’s ability.

@masteriothegooduttp

Ай бұрын

I ASKED + I CARE + MATPAT WILL BE MISSED + THE GAME THEORY'S CONTENT IS WAYYYY BETTER THAN MINE!!🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

@mariospiotta2823

Ай бұрын

@@masteriothegooduttp (maybe if I talk in brainrot he will stop spamming himself) skibidi sigma Fortnite gyatt I rizzed livvy Dunne and gooned alongside Baby gronk

"Using my powers for goaltending, possible. Or you could have just missed your shot" -MooToo

0:34 to be fair he did pronounce Mewtwo as “MOO-two” something tells me he has no real interest in looking any further

2012 being "old" is giving me an existential crisis

@aidenlegobatman

Ай бұрын

Yep

@HerzogVonAUTTP-of4tp

Ай бұрын

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@David280GGantiuttp1

Ай бұрын

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You forgot to go through mewtwo's movepool

@anthonystaton3740

Ай бұрын

He also forgot that LeBron can't use a freaking fence to extend his blocking range.

@phlpcockrell

Ай бұрын

​@anthonystaton3740 even if u assume the "fence" is exactly as long as his wing span, he's not literally using a fence.

@anthonystaton3740

Ай бұрын

@@phlpcockrell he actually is. He even says he creates it. That means it's real. What are you talking about.

@drackestalentorgen166

Ай бұрын

or abilities, or to put the same rules he put on mewtwo on lebron

@anunakixxxxxxx

Ай бұрын

like mewtwo can teleport objects to block

This is classic Game Theory! Thank you for keeping the spirit alive!

Everyone’s a gangsta till Mewtwo starts levitating

It felt a little unfair having all of mewtwo's powers taken away and giving LeBron all of his.

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

“Just because it’s not in the rules, doesn’t mean it’s okay to use it if it’s detrimental to the sport.”

@user-cw4ru4tn5b

Ай бұрын

Exactly man

@GODOFAWSOMENESS1

Ай бұрын

He let Mewtwo use his psychic powers on the ball and let him float.

@AtovicYT

Ай бұрын

@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 LeBron could fly, turn himself and the ball invisible. He can also block the ball from any position and instantly regain the ball.

@Nuke1ncoming

Ай бұрын

​@@Tahj2Scrappyinvisibilty 🤡

Tom you miss some point 1-the "capture" moment was when he was created 2-if mewtwo can't use psychic powers because its unfair that would mean that a power were you can't even see you opponent would be pretty unfair too 3-you missed alot of mewtwo abilitys like is moveset or move that can power up his strenght, agility and else 4-mewtwo can duplicate himself with once again, moveset 5-you said that even if it's not in the rule doesn't mean it can be use of it destroy the game and his fairness that mean that invisibility and cloning yourself would be a big no no 6-mewtwo canon say that his forcefield is really strong so lebron couldn't even go near him 7-mewtwo doesn't need a mega stone to mega evolve 8-mewtwo is a hyper intilligent war machine im sure he's gonna think of a way to outsmart lebron In conclusion this is the "sans is ness" matpat theory but for tom

@knockout8157

Ай бұрын

I agree. Just one thing tho - for number 1, he was actually referring to the detective pikachu movie where the antagonist _did_ capture him, not the first movie like you’re thinking. Not trying to be rude, just wanted to let you know :)

@bigjalapeno7061

Ай бұрын

Still funny to think about though

@WhyamIalive123

Ай бұрын

​@@knockout8157 no worry thanks for telling me

I reckon you should make more basketball content, I really enjoyed this!

Great crazy video! By the way, I really suggest you to make a big overall community theory (sort of "concluded timeline and story") of an old but, like a high quality vine, good and fascinating game - Evoland 2! (yeah, I know, sounds a bit strange, but the story behind it is not explained even now, after many-many years from its release)

Wait but, mewtwo is intelligent enough to know that if LeBron turns invisible he can just guard his hoop since that is where LeBron will shoot or dunk, and if LeBron dunks which he will most likely do for more accuracy, it is an easy block since the ball will always end p above the hoop, meaning mewtwo has to keep swiping above the hoop to eventually take the ball from LeBron who will plan to dunk, and if mewtwo controls the ball with his psychic powers LeBron will not be fast enough to block the ball, since mewtwo can make the ball accelerate at phenomenal speeds

@tinybluewhale5919

Ай бұрын

Also turning the ball invisible probably counts as modifying it. There is no way that’s legal

@sodaikitsune602

Ай бұрын

Even if not, he has to dunk to keep the ball invisible.

@Odinfrost

Ай бұрын

@@sodaikitsune602 That's a good point. Which would mean that he can't just go invisible and then go to the net. He needs to dribble the ball making it visible. Not to mention the noise it would make.

@Yaster126

Ай бұрын

@@Odinfrost I haven't read the comic to comment on a ball being visible when dribbling, but he doesn't need to dribble at all as he can levitate, but even then if throwing makes the ball visible his only option is to dunk.

@ccjiu8496

Ай бұрын

If Mewtu can't use tms he can't use pack with the Powerup or his rings. Me first is obvious but as an example it can get Snetch through Movetutor which should be legit. Miracle Eye goes through sub and normalizes evasiones so it could hit James. There are more but it would be silly to write them all down...

The moment you gave the guy the Comic Book powers I'm really curious if you searched for Mewtwo to have some crazy extra powers from other sources too and not just tried to buff Lebron so he can defeat Mewtwo

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

Bron wins cuz mewtwo in reality is a sheet of paper bro. Bron the goat

@shirendjorgee9320

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2ScrappyDo you not understand what a hypothetical is?

@SpydeR5K

Ай бұрын

If he looked at the Pokémon manga… if ykyk.

@CobaltPerseverance154

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2Scrappy Wow, bro really going to every comment reply just to say anything to try and debunk Mewtwo arguments. Just give in bro.

Since you did this can you do a game theory on the best build of 2k24 I would love to see that

It depends on whether or not using psychic abilities is against the rules...

what did I just read

@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

*I'm sad because today is my birthday and I didn't have any subscribers* 💕🥲😭

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.

@aclown9127

Ай бұрын

@UTubeTrollPoliceNWOleast obvious rage bait

@SteelPlaz

Ай бұрын

@UTubeTrollPoliceNWOget a life loner

@CoalPrice

Ай бұрын

its a good question.

Could a psychic pokemon destroy a human? This dude said maybe and doesn't know how op mewtwo is

@FrostedMike

Ай бұрын

Catch is that it's not a fight, but a basketball match with all rules applied (with stretching the definition of some aspects). Neither Mewtwo nor Lebron James can do whatever they want. If no powers are allowed at all, I think it's a surprising even match with each have different advantages: Mewtwo is faster while Lebron is more experienced. With powers I think it would come down to who can get a hold of the ball more often so I would give a slight edge for Mewtwo purely based on speed.

Massive 16:59 problem with your conclusion; you rules Psychic as being physical, that means he can just put a Psychic barrier blocking the basket and once the ball touches it when Lebron tries to dunk, Mewtwo can just steal the ball.

@nathanmoshenek3495

11 күн бұрын

Wait your right

I love how unhinged this is. I actually cannot get over how amazing this is.

This is basically the Game-Theory version of "Death Battle" but instead of fighting to the death they're fighting to game point lol

@heavyarmedssj

Ай бұрын

It also had the outcome of a bad death battle too lol

I think there is a flaw. Mewtoo could just get the ball straight up over the ring and shoot it at enormous speeds, which means even if LeBron will counter it, it will count as goalkeeping.

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

Mewtwo don’t know how to shoot bro

@Mohammad-wp1jo

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2Scrappy mewtwo knows everything

@koolsummer222

Ай бұрын

Also, Mewtwo could just stay at the net and keep possession of the ball even if LeBron takes it

@sarthak0018

Ай бұрын

​@@Tahj2Scrappythat guy literally has the higher iq than genius than humans and have built technology and knows how to talk and basically can do anything a human can do.

@justenoughrandomness8989

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2Scrappy how can you be so sure they didn't just do a bit of practice or use their psychic powers to just calculate how to do it + like others said, mewtwo would absolutely know how to shoot a ball

This feels like a death battle

Appreciate that we still have some fun topics like this. Feels like everything is a horror game lore theory.😊

The only problem I see with this is that multiple times pokemon talks about how psychic types don't need to see the opponent to hit them, so invisibility wouldn't matter and if LeBron is dunking the ball then Mewtwo is allowed to use psychic to block it for the same reason LeBron uses deny

Mewtwo dunking on LeBron is Crazy😂

@dejavous666.

Ай бұрын

Mewtwo: "Get dunked on!" LeBron: "😱"

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Ай бұрын

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@BobsAUTTP-zy9tv

Ай бұрын

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Ай бұрын

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I didn’t want to accept it at first, but he has a very similar vibe as MatPat

Clicked on to say Game Theorist has fallen from grace. A mind controller that inverts gravity is definitely gonna have a problem with a human with secondhand cartoon powers👍

ALMOST. We did not delve into Mewtwo's movepool enough - excluding technical machines, as noted, but including move tutor moves. We have: Gravity (unsure if this counts as impeding LeBron as essentially all it would do is counter his levitation), Disable (which could prevent LeBron from using his moves, though unsure if that counts as impeding), Miracle Eye (which allow Mewtwo to hit evasive targets e.g. invisible ones) and the icing on the cake the two moves Mimic/Me First & Role Play, which allow Mewtwo to respectively copy moves and abilities of LeBron. I also wonder how far Mewtwo could float the ball up vs. how far LeBron could fly, because Mewtwo could simply drop the ball from high enough into the basket - downward motion and untouched, so cannot be goalkept. Still epic work, Tom!

“Mewtwo can’t mega or use TMs because those enhance performance” doesn’t work when you say Lebron can use video game power-ups like a minute later

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

He had one video game power up where he can make a randomized guaranteed shot while you’re already winning. Don’t forget bro used a game to figure out Mewtwo vertical. And even if mewtwo mega evolves has all the tms he still has no basketball iq. He getting cooked by bron off one hesi. Only thing saving him is foresight and his tail

@Randomnon941

Ай бұрын

Mewtwo can just teleport the ball into the basket.

@sportsgamer1119

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2Scrappymewtwo can just throw him into the sun with psychic

@EthanDean-tj3te

Ай бұрын

Did u not listen. In the rules it says but you CANNOT move or shove said target

@graylead

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2Scrappy he’s still going back on his rule of “no performance enhancing items”. Even if the power up sucks, it’s still a power up and Lebron shouldn’t be allowed to have it if Mewtwo can’t have his.

I've been waiting for someone t o upload this for ten years, thank you so much.

Well I guess mr mime could make screens that nobody can score on except maybe prime jordan

This is the most unexpected theory…. Probably ever 💀

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.

@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

*I'm sad because today is my birthday and I didn't have any subscribers* 💕🥲😭…

@HxH_Weeb-

Ай бұрын

Facts

@aidenlegobatman

Ай бұрын

да

This is one of those videos where you see the title and drop everything to watch.

@DaoistRed

Ай бұрын

So true, i was gonna sleep before i saw this video and i just had to watch it😂😂.

Tom: the rules are very important and nullify most of Mewtwos powers. Tom later: Lebron can turn invisible, summon shadow clones, get a guaranteed dunk, summon a shield to block attacks, and levitate. Makes total sense

I used to love this place, but now it’s just buns

4:37 NOT MARKIPLIERS PERFECT POKÉMON MAKING AM APPEARANCE 😭

@bardicshenanigans5237

Ай бұрын

I’m so happy someone else caught it

@arnavravnang4729

Ай бұрын

I DID TOO

But if Mewtwo is still holding the ball when he tries to score, it's not a projectile; It's melee

nice part 1, expecting part 2 soon where we will talk about mewtwo's abilities

I'm pretty sure if Mewtwo was actively searching for an object, he could identify its location via Miracle Eye, Psychic Noise or something of the likes.

Mewtwo gets psychic noise... so it can just hit through substitute.

@Mudcrown

Ай бұрын

or taunt

@IMakeEditsFor1Cent

Ай бұрын

Yup and if I’m not mistaken I don’t thing you can use the multi versus move in the air

@lildeathbringer69

Ай бұрын

@UTubeTrollPoliceNWO why even say this bro its not scary, cool, threatening- like what are you getting off this

@TyranntX

Ай бұрын

@@lildeathbringer69He’s a troll, just report for spam and move on.

@TyranntX

Ай бұрын

@@MudcrownAlso Mewtwo doesn’t NEED a stone for EITHER of their mega forms, also this video left out his ability to read minds along with a number of other feats and abilities.

at 12 minutes-ish he mentions how mewtwo is "holding" the ball with psychic, so the fence blocking wouldn't work on it as it is not a "projectile"

@hothdog

Ай бұрын

psychics takes the worst of both worlds, it isn't physically attached to something so you can argue it's a projectile , and it's be controled by mewtoo so it wouldn't count as goalkeeping

Pretty sure if LeBron James turn invisible, you can still hear the squeaking of the shoes, and the bouncing of the ball. On top of that, the making a duplicate, then going invisible to score a hoop might work once, but then I’m pretty sure Mewtwo would become wise to that trick. Also, I’m pretty sure Mewtwo would still be aware of the presence of his competitor that he knows he’s up against so he’d probably continuously have a psychic link with LeBron James.

finally an old school theory where you answer a silly question instead of trying to solve the lore of some game!!

Mewtwo's level up movesets and move tutor movesets should be included since they don't require TM discs to be learned. Mewtwo learns Miracle Eye by leveling up in Gen 5 which enables an evasive target to be hit, negating LeBron's invisibility. Mewtwo also learns Substitute by move tutor in Gen 3, so both of them can make decoys.

Ahh, yes, let's pit a guy who can level an island facility against a dude who's good at basketball, questions we all need answers to.

Honestly I feel very convinced but not fully, considering that you said that mewtwo psychic powers are illegal in basketball but Lebron is able to turn invisible. You mention that he can’t be caught then, but won’t he be caught once he dunks the ball? The other thing I had also thought about was you didn’t really develop any characteristic attacks that mewtwo has for example he also can use teleport which is almost the same or better as lebrons invisibility. I also took note that mewtwo can use disable an attack that will stop Lebron from using his block mewtwo can also use barrier which dose the same as lebrons special block also can’t mewtwo also guard the hoop and can’t mewtwo use confusion to make lebron miss his shots? I don’t really know but I would like to hear some other opinions on this topic.

This is the theories I've been waiting for. Finally, a good f'ing meal.

I've only watched the first 30 seconds, but asking Steven A Smith about journalistic integrity is objectively the funniest bit that this video is going to have

It's funny how the comic book version of a character tends to be the most powerful and obscurely insane version of the character

@33pandagamer

Ай бұрын

I know right?

i read this as 'could mewtwo actually be lebron james'

Love how Tom is recreating those absurd yet funny theories that MatPat used to make years ago :)

Oke so couple things: 1. thats how decoy works INGAME not in the logic of the pokemon universe, in universe it's basicly a substitution jutsu, and even then thats not the same as what lebron is doing 2. mewtwo has been clocked around 100mph or around 5x as fast as lebron on his best day 3. waving off his telepthy because "he's been snuck up on" is like saying "this swordsman can't fight because he dosen't have a sword" after a couple seconds he would be able to lock on to lebron and stay locked on to know exactly where he is regardless of invisibility, also as DND puts it, invisibility just makes it so a person can't see you, not that you don't leave any traces 4. mewtwo's psysic power is pinpoint accurate enough to let him fight against multiple pokemon that are just as fast as them, if not more so (the genosect movie) sure they lost that fight but again 100MPFH so here's how i think this would go, mewtwo would be caught off guard for like the first 3 points, maybe 4 if lebron can put up that guard enough, but then mewtwo just....dodges the guard? and steals the ball as soon as he hears it bouncing and scores 50 baskets in the next fourty minutes

New ness is sans

@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

*I'm sad because today is my birthday and I didn't have any subscribers* 💕🥲😭

@𠔁

Ай бұрын

Don’t translate...😠 भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु….. . いみこめ 0:14

@CoalPrice

Ай бұрын

here during the bots

@Bunnyy101

Ай бұрын

@@PomniSimp144bro you have over 1k subs 💀💀

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.

the ref cant count the point of scoring if he doesnt see the ball go through the hoop.

8:11 Tom is threatening to take over film theory now, I can’t wait to see that crossover

I like it when funny comparisons like this actually get taken seriously.

Mewtwo hooping is something gonna be stuck in my head now

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.

@BlouePickdMan

Ай бұрын

same

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Ай бұрын

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@David280GGantiuttp1

Ай бұрын

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I'm bringing this theory back from the dead but can we PLEASE get a theory on the watcher lore I NEED IT

I don’t know what Channel this theory would go on, but find out if diary of a wimpy kid was LORE.

What 💀

@PomniSimp144

Ай бұрын

*I'm sad because today is my birthday and I didn't have any subscribers* 💕🥲😭

@melonman198

Ай бұрын

TF are these replies

@alphaa2010

Ай бұрын

Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.

@Gw3rd

Ай бұрын

Bro these bots are getting out of pocket 😂

@sweetsharonda

Ай бұрын

​@@PomniSimp144 I hope you lose subs.

mewtwo uses disable turning off lebron's powers then proceeds to clean house.

@Tahj2Scrappy

Ай бұрын

That’s a technical foul bro😭

@Drumming_Dragon

Ай бұрын

@@Tahj2Scrappyif it’s allowed in competitive tournaments then it’ll be allowed in basketball if Lebron’s unfair buffs are allowed.

Saying mewtwo is holding the ball after shooting it is a huge stretch.

This is a Theory I didn't think I needed but I'm glad I got, and I'm all for it.

Before the move was removed in gen 8, Mewtwo could learn miracle eye, which has the effect of resetting the opponents evasiveness. This implies Mewtwo would be able to see invisible Lebron as if he were visible. Mewtwo can also learn disable which disables a move for 1-8 turns which he could use to disable Lebron's substitute after he uses it. Then Mewtwo could grab the ball with telekinesis, and teleport to the goal to shoot before Lebron can block it.

@hothdog

Ай бұрын

disable isn't allowed, remember?

This matchups is so random it immediately makes it a above average theory 😂😂😂

The personality shines through and keeps viewers coming back.

Not once in my life did I ever think this matchup would be thought about