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Costco vs Trojan 6 volt
In this video we revisits the Trojan 6 volt Pacer model mfg in California. We find the Trojan Pacer has a long life for an inexpensive price. We discuss the various applications the Trojan Pacer is acceptable for. Not as robust as the Trojan T-105, the Trojan Pacer is built for more longevity when compared to other inexpensive 6 volt batteries.deepcyclebatte...
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Hi, you made a good source of information about 6v battery, but next video don't add music as background, it's annoying...or low the level of the music. Thanks for your help.
The people complaining about the music messing with their equilibrium don't appreciate a "Freebie." Thanks for the battery info.
I have traveled full time in our rig for over 4.5 years using two 6 volt Interstate batteries with our solar and they are still running strong.
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
Escape Pilot - Since you do not state your *Daily* Depth-of-Discharge, that makes your statement meaningless. This video about severe 80% DOD ...
Great video! Thanks for taking my call today. Very educational.
Franklins Tower. Nice. And thanks for the battery info, also.
Turn off the music, thank you, want to hear u not the music.
@1Whipperin
4 жыл бұрын
Why do so many video makers think they need to play music? The music sucks.
Dude, anyone who plays Franklin's for their videos immediately has my approval and appreciation. 😊
@daveyboy8907
4 жыл бұрын
Yep I noticed that to.. Jerry👍🏻🍻
Nice GD you got me going at my night job in Mississippi. 5/17/2021 😎✌️
Wast it 80$ back then. The prices quadruple since then
This is not an advertisement by a battery dealer at all! No bias in any way, shape, or form. :)
@mylessilas5141
3 жыл бұрын
You prolly dont give a shit but if you're bored like me atm you can watch all of the new series on InstaFlixxer. I've been watching with my brother for the last couple of weeks :)
@elishaedison3807
3 жыл бұрын
@Myles Silas Yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for years myself =)
I love the Grateful Dead. I also am grateful for your video. It helped a lot.
Can you share the source for the laboratory testing for the Trojan and JCI Interstate battery? When you say a lifecycle of 500 cycles or 300 cycles are you stating to 80% of initial capacity?
@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego
4 жыл бұрын
discharge and recharge cycles to 20% state of charge
@tonyfourpaws4511
4 жыл бұрын
There is no laboratory. He works for Trojan
I don’t deep discharge my golf carts on the boat past 50%. I wonder what the results would have been if you had done your comparison down to 50% depth of discharge. 80% really would tax the plate grids. But given similar price, it would seem Trojan would be the better buy where you are. In Canada, I think the Trojans are quite a bit more expensive. BTW, that should be 630kwh and 417kwh for total energy (not power) for the life of the batteries. You forgot to propagate the “hours” unit.
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
@SVaramoana - Assuming his "facts" are valid. Did he supply the source of the data ?
@leopoldpoppenberger8692
9 ай бұрын
Do NOT Buy Trojan Batteries!!! Here's Why.
I think it was 600kw*hr rather than 600kw. and 400 kw*hr (for costco). So, a unit of total energy rather than total power.
@MrSummitville
3 жыл бұрын
If you believe his numbers, without any URL links to each manufacturers "%DOD vs Cycle" graphs. And who discharges down to 80% DOD ( only 20% remaining ) ???
Jesus Christ!!! The music!!!
Nice compare 👍 Annoying with the music 👎 Why music at all!?
I just am dubious of your prices mentioned 80.00 a battery? Where are you getting only 80.00 ? 440.00 is the lowest I can find for the Trojan
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
@Kenton Ward - No, the price for a Trojan Pacer T-605 6V is *NOT* $440.00 ...
Trojan Pacer is made to complete with the inexpensive golf cart battery market. Go with the Trojan T-105 golf cart batteries, you will get 5 years of life and no problems vs. 3 years with the Duracell, Exide, Crown, and Interstate golf cart batteries.
@leopoldpoppenberger8692
9 ай бұрын
Do NOT Buy Trojan Batteries!!! Here's Why.
There is no absolute or definitive answer to the question asked. Every person who shares info like this is a 3rd party individual sharing info we civilians can't get from the manufacturers. They share some info and cloak other stuff in marketing BS. I personally thank this fellow for what he shared. Each guy tries to summarize and dumb down the complex subject. They are not battery test engineers who test not only their own on performance but most others well. Costco like WallyMart contract with the battery manufacturers and didictste the price point. The manufacturer has to meet it to get the contract. Then the engineers go back to redesign that battery so they not only meet the price point but make the margin (profit) to stay in business. They can only squeeze their suppliers for cheaper raw materials like lead, the most expensive item in a battery. Or they can take out material, lowering the performance. I don't know if WallyMart still does this but they did this to the more expensive dlsr's they sold with the same model number as name of the manufacturer like Cannon. Walmart's was cheaper than what you thought was the same model from another source. But those identical cameras were not identical. The Wallmart camera was cheapened down either using less robust components or materials, etc.
@andrewjackson9853
4 жыл бұрын
So. . .he's right on as far as he ever could be according to you.
Enough of the music already!
How much is the price NOW ,, ???? per battery , i need 4 , for my rv
Yeah mate sorry. I could only handle 3 minutes of that video before that music started screwing with my equilibrium. That music is way too loud and just plain ridiculous. Its a shame cause the info was handy.
Anyone have good luck with interstates on a golf cart? I've heard about 3 years life compared to 5 years from Trojans. But now trojan is making interstates they say, any input will be appreciated
@RaceMentally
Жыл бұрын
I change mine every 3 years no matter. Plus they’re 1/3 to 1/4 cost so yes I run the cheap ones.
@leopoldpoppenberger8692
9 ай бұрын
Do NOT Buy Trojan Batteries!!! Here's Why.
Thank you for your knowledge
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
@Berry McGregor - Did he state his source of this so-called "knowledge"? Or is he a Trojan salesman?
Love the tunes....Who doesn't want to listen to Jerry Garcia while learning about batteries!!
with the trojan, inparticular the T105 does the 80% discharge still apply when two are wired to 12v or does this then revert them to 50% recommended depth of discharge ?
@TomRolfson
5 жыл бұрын
Very same question I've been seeking the answer to. Have you found a definite answer yet?
@dannelson8556
5 жыл бұрын
It's a bit difficult to understand what you're asking. I'm assuming you're asking if you wire two trojan 6-volt batteries in series to supply 12 volts will it affect the maximum recommended 80% discharge rating. the answer is no since they are in series the total capacity would be 210AH at 12 volts. A single 6-volt battery would be 210 amp hours at 6 volts by stringing two 6 volt batteries in series you double the voltage but retain the same capacity. if you wire two 6 volt batteries in parallel you double the battery banks amp hour capacity but retain the 6-volt rating Either way you retain the same nominal wattage capacity. 12x210=2520 watts 6x420= 2520 watts
@ajpepe72
5 жыл бұрын
Dan Nelson yes it was the charge cycle figure in 12v configuration I was interested in. Series and parallel voltages I’m familiar with 👍
@ekoms108
5 жыл бұрын
@@ajpepe72 its the same DOD no matter what
I like the music!!
Excuse me, that's Franklin bro lol
Love the tunes! Ignore the haters!
We’re comparing the competition to what we sell - take a wild guess which one wins? 🤔
Any reviews on The Battery Source batteries? seems a lot of people are selling carts with those batteries in it.
I'm looking at the T-105 vs the Costco battery. The reports on the Costco site for the Interstate battery are all negative. What's your take on the bad reviews. Thanks, didn't the music.
I've been getting a year plus on four costco batteries in a bank for 24v. Its warranty is my main reason. 1 year return no questions asked. My inverter only discharges the batt. To 80% before alarm. Ive had a couple last 2 years. But mostly around a year.
@milliondollar2981
5 жыл бұрын
Thats not that good,,,only a year or 2 ? Then replace them again? Lot of money
@jinaw1557
5 жыл бұрын
This unsubstantiated claim made in the video is actually a reason not to buy from this company.
@MrSummitville
3 жыл бұрын
@@milliondollar2981 Something is severely wrong if he gets only 1 YEAR with a discharge down to 80% SOC. BUT, if it a discharge down to 80% DOD, every day, then 356 cycles is correct !
@supremeautomotive6749
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSummitville yeah if he did 50% yea
JCI is not the manufacturer of that battery
Both your comparisons were labeled Trojan btw. Where do you get that Costco is only 300 cycles?
JERRY!!!😎
Thanks for the info. Hi, I'm looking at the US2200 XC2 vs Trojan T-105. Which one should be better for a golf cart? Also, is there T-105 Plus?
@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego
4 жыл бұрын
Looking up the history of both batteries they seem to last equal to 232 amp power us battery probably has a 30-minute discharge rate advantage over the t105 both are strong batteries mfg in usa
Whats you best price all in shipping and everything for 8 trojan pacers?
music takes away from your message, very annoying, other than that this vide is informative.
Thanks for Franklin's Tower ⚡
Music was distracting
Please fact check this with interstate. My interstate rep states that jci no longer makes the Costco interstate branded batteries and that in fact Trojan now makes the batteries for interstates 6v line. Trojan has been making them for almost 18months now for interstate
@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego
5 жыл бұрын
You are correct. We reached out to Trojan to get specs on current battery sold at Costco to do analysis. We will do a new video on the Costco /Interstate
@kennycybertron1
5 жыл бұрын
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego Hello Mr. Deep Cycle, what's your opinion on the Sam's club DURACELL batteries...they cost 97.00 each 6vlt.....thank you sir
@adwhitex
5 жыл бұрын
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego Thanks for the confirmation. Heading to Costco tomorrow!
bro whats up with the music lol
Good video. But it is kWh, not kW.
I have no idea what the "lifetime power" means in the math section - power is a rate, not an amount of energy. What seems most relevant are the number of cycles in a battery lifetime and the amp hours extractable upon reaching 80% discharge. Are the battery amp hour ratings saying how many amp hours can be drawn upon reaching 80% discharge?
@andrewjackson9853
4 жыл бұрын
That's what lifetime power is. . . AH * USABLE CYCLES*VOLTAGE=LIFETIME POWER. It's a bit more than just capacity of a fully charged battery. It also takes into account how well/many times a particular battery will cycle from discharged to charged before replacement.
If two 6v batteries are connected in series and one battery develops a defect, will the current return to 6v or hover somewhere between 6v and 12v?
@mrgehring2
2 жыл бұрын
a 6V battery is actually three 2V cells in series inside, and a 12V battery is six 2V cells. If any one cell dies, the battery is generally dead and should be recycled. Also, current is measured in amps , not volts.
If I have to listen to that music, then you should have to drop that battery repeatedly on your foot,
What is the difference between the T105 and the Pacer?
@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego
5 жыл бұрын
The Trojan Pacer is a weaker battery.
I cannot find any information on where to buy a trojan pacer battery like you talk about. Is there another name for that model?
@MrSummitville
3 жыл бұрын
At HIS store ...
Johnson controls also make delkors
Grateful dead never suck!
great video thanks! could do without the loud music though.
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
@Ben Furitin - Where is the source for these so-called *facts* ?
@leopoldpoppenberger8692
9 ай бұрын
junk
stopped by today after watching video - Pacer is now almost $20 higher than shown in the video. Jim
@jamiebrown2576
4 жыл бұрын
Trojan infomercial. Check the advertisement sign on the right! Trojans are great, but this is NOT an unbiased review.
Why do BOTH graphics at 1:45 (500 cycles) and 2:15 (300 cycles) have "Trojan 6 Volt" listed at the top?
@Dive-Bar-Casanova
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah he has the graphics wrong.
Do you have a outlet in the Utah Idaho area? Your cost on the trojan is better than I can find near this area
@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry we do not and currently Trojan has a severe backorder situation
are the cycle life ratings based on nameplate data or from some results?
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
@leecyrille - NOTE: He did *not* name his source. I would only trust an independent testing lab. Data from manufacturers, for lifetime CYCLES are usually not obtainable in the real world.
Hello how is Maintenance of gel batteries for deep cycle gel???
@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego
6 жыл бұрын
Charge with GEL battery parameters (available from mfg) discharge no more than 80% DOD
When I saw all of the comments complaining about the music I thought people were just whining. I made it to 2:15 and had to stop the video. I appreciate you trying to compare the two batteries to help consumers, but the music is too much.
Good to know
Good lord the music is so loud I can't hear what you're saying
Great video totally enjoy the music which song was that and where can I get download it
@Camromulus
4 жыл бұрын
Grateful Dead - Franklin's Tower.
I like the information. Very informative. But Please kill that music. It is very distracting and does not make your video more entertaining it actually takes away from your presentation. Just a thought.
Had to cut your presentation short because of the over volume music.
Good information. Get rid of the background music it was an annoying as hell
More Dead please, don't listen to these dudes!! Hahaha
Hillbilly music is as loud as you... It's called "background music" for a reason...
Funny Trojans here are twice that price American greed or remans
@MrSummitville
3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome ...
Please remove your back ground music
Broom the music. Please........
Background music made this unwatchable
What
Dead,...Morning Dew?
@2get2Terrapin
5 жыл бұрын
Franklin's Tower
Your graphics incorrect bozo. You have the Trojan listed both times.
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
He is Trojan dealer. He needs to keep advertising Trojan as their quality drops ...
At the beginning of the video I said I wasn’t gonna say anything about the music. But it got so freaking annoying I can’t focus on your important information 👎🏼 could you pls get rid of it. Thanks
Far too long and incredibly irritating music in the foreground.
The music is annoying so i stopped watching your vid.
@mattricard26
5 жыл бұрын
Judith is annoying
The music SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS, and still SUCKS.
annoying music. Please stop playing music with your videos.
BS If you go to 100% discharge any lead acid battery will die young.
@MrSummitville
Жыл бұрын
@Solexx X - He is comparing two different batteries at the *same* severe DOD. You clearly do not understand this video...