Configuring a Factory Rifle to Shoot Long Range - Part 3

Mike Davidson continues the series of how to configure your factory rifle to shoot long range with part 3, how to zero your rifle.
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  • @TexanUSMC8089
    @TexanUSMC80897 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people seemed to have missed the point. This wasn't a Gunwerks rifle. This was a video showing you how an off the shelf Remington 700 can be cleaned up a little and shoot well. He went slow and explained everything so most people can do what he did. Great video.

  • @TexanUSMC8089

    @TexanUSMC8089

    7 жыл бұрын

    Also, if you watch part 4, you'll see him start to get more serious. It's sighted in and broke in a little. He takes it out to 950 yards and it's shooting 2.5 in groups at 500 yards. There are a lot of rifles out there that cost 3 times more and don't shoot any better.

  • @rogerdavies6226

    @rogerdavies6226

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got my Remington 700 22-250 to .395 after tinkering with the loads and Norma brass and free floating the barrel

  • @aaronbuckmaster7063

    @aaronbuckmaster7063

    5 жыл бұрын

    First, yes my last name is Buckmaster. Some people have made comments. It’s a very old name. Anyway, I didn’t see anything wrong with what he did. He first changed out a trigger group I don’t much care for, with a more precise and reliable mechanism. He took a factory rifle on blocks and beaded the recoil lug a little more securely. He showed everyone how to lap out scope rings and level their scopes. He talked about breaking in the barrel. He mentioned bore sighting. From what I saw, the rifle almost certainly performs more accurately than out of the box. There are several more things that can be done to a factory rifle, but the point was to simply improve a factory rifle. For the purposes of taking game, it performed very well. If the shooter is proficient, that rifle will take game at the distance any A frame bullet will deliver terminal velocities to. The bullets retention of terminal velocities is what dictates the range of a rifle. Not counting the performance of the shooter. These little improvements are to facilitate a clean kill of the game animals it’s used to harvest. That is the most important goal. Also to enjoy yourself and the game taken.

  • @davidscoville5723

    @davidscoville5723

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TexanUSMC8089 by

  • @Extreme_Idaho_outdoors

    @Extreme_Idaho_outdoors

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@l92denali95 the Davidson brothers know more about rifles then most rifle companies that's why there rifle systems are more superior

  • @Planetcat2071
    @Planetcat20714 жыл бұрын

    Great series of videos and an A+ on the background music selection!

  • @jeremymitchell1241
    @jeremymitchell1241 Жыл бұрын

    Those sendero are great factory rifles. I had one in the original sf I model in 7mm rem mag. Half minute gun all day with certain factory ammo. Love the video series guys.

  • @mrgreen1633
    @mrgreen16335 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Well explained video.Enjoyed how to zero a scope.

  • @webbzgunnuts
    @webbzgunnuts4 жыл бұрын

    good video, thanks for making it. Most draw it out to an hour, I like short and concise .

  • @davidbeverley288
    @davidbeverley2889 жыл бұрын

    mint series easy to follow good job

  • @TheWhmaxwell
    @TheWhmaxwell11 жыл бұрын

    Excellent series man.. thanks!

  • @jdirt1982
    @jdirt198211 жыл бұрын

    Hey mike let's see a 1 mile shot with this rig when your done. Thanks for the great videos

  • @fabiolorem1910
    @fabiolorem19109 жыл бұрын

    Great series!

  • @violeman
    @violeman10 жыл бұрын

    NICE !!! Thanks 4 Sharing !!

  • @johnny6148
    @johnny61485 жыл бұрын

    excellent video i learned a lot. just got a creedmore and scope

  • @VortexOperator
    @VortexOperator11 жыл бұрын

    Model: Remington 700 Sendero SFII Scope: Nightforce 5.5-22X56mm Trigger: 2lb Timney

  • @michaelbowman7558

    @michaelbowman7558

    3 жыл бұрын

    34

  • @DogSportPE
    @DogSportPE10 жыл бұрын

    Another great vid!!!

  • @tomschumacher5434
    @tomschumacher54344 жыл бұрын

    Mikes the man! 👍🏼

  • @carlvickers1947
    @carlvickers19477 жыл бұрын

    Very nice three part series... Well done..

  • @sweetteaoutdoors

    @sweetteaoutdoors

    7 жыл бұрын

    there are 5 parts

  • @brianshanahan3878
    @brianshanahan38783 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video series!

  • @TheOneeyedclay
    @TheOneeyedclay11 жыл бұрын

    Great Video Mike. Thanks ! !

  • @matthewsylva8958
    @matthewsylva89585 жыл бұрын

    Nice job thank you!

  • @ThemanWhitTwoGuns
    @ThemanWhitTwoGuns10 жыл бұрын

    another awesome vid. you should do one talking about the 7mm RM and 168gr Berger's..

  • @rogermcgee1
    @rogermcgee111 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff. Learning.

  • @jannowak524
    @jannowak5244 жыл бұрын

    I am from Poland. Great videos. Very interesting.OK.

  • @SexyplexiGT
    @SexyplexiGT2 жыл бұрын

    Damn that action looked smooth

  • @SimRacing1978
    @SimRacing19786 жыл бұрын

    Great Job!

  • @pilotactor777
    @pilotactor7774 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff.

  • @blakewingate3490
    @blakewingate34909 жыл бұрын

    great videos you guys make, but i thought with that style night force scope you had to take the caps off and loosen the 4 clutch screws to "rezero" the scope. maybe I'm wrong. I'm young and only a few years into the long range shooting game lol. Can anybody share any wisdom here?

  • @jeffryclark7003
    @jeffryclark700310 жыл бұрын

    Best bullets best company in my eyes

  • @7071t6
    @7071t65 жыл бұрын

    Just noticed that they have barrel borescopes, which is basically a microscope to look down rifle barrels and trust me, even with brand new well known rifle barrel makers you would be so surprised on how badly the barrels are made, especially chrome moly barrels compared to stainless steel, so take care when cleaning and always get a pro gun barrel maker to check you barrels especially if you doing target competitions shooting ?

  • @silvermediastudio
    @silvermediastudio10 жыл бұрын

    I would avoid building those custom turrets and ballistics data until the bore has reached copper equilibrium and the action has fully settled in. Also, did you check headspace? Without a precise and consistent headspace you'll never get full potential (cold bore first shot hits) from the gun. It's not necessary, but I would have sent that barrel out for either A) threading for a break or B) recessed crown. Having a flat 90° on the muzzle and a (possibly) unknown crown angle will hold you back.

  • @billcavazos2817
    @billcavazos28178 жыл бұрын

    I usually do not like to give out shooting secrets. Learned this one from Carlos. Always shoot your 3 shot groups with a cold clean barrel. In other words do not shoot 3 consecutive shots then figure your scope settings. You have to remember when your hunting its that one shot you are going to make with a clean cold barrel.

  • @j.r.w6623
    @j.r.w66236 жыл бұрын

    Wow great videos

  • @TheDarlowiak
    @TheDarlowiak7 ай бұрын

    How do You know Your rifle likes the ammmo You shoot? Myself , would shoot Weatherby ammo only , cause it’s consistent.

  • @davidhark2817
    @davidhark28175 жыл бұрын

    We all have our preferred way to do things I guess but working a decent handload for this rifle would bring it down to 1/2 moa. Most likely. Their decent guns for a box rifle I have one that runs a ragged hole but it took finding the right bullet seating depth powder and bullet ..

  • @markdraper4087
    @markdraper40878 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how many experts are in here making comments on all the things he's doing wrong. seems like he's doing things well enough to get solid hits.

  • @jobson88

    @jobson88

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Christopher Adams Owned one in 300WM, customized it myself (Timney trigger, AICS chassis). No barrel break in done (sorry, not buying that). With hand loaded ammo, correct seating depth I've shot consistent 0.38-.45 moa groups (min. 5 shot) at 100 meters and used it to do 1000, 1350 and 1650 meters with 185gr scenar and 200MK's. Sendero out of the box is excellent and a great rifle that get's you good results for a reasonable investment. So I agree with Christopher, at 1 MOA I would return it to the gun smith. If you're not producing sub 0,5 MOA shots, at the long range you're toast with all the added (wind) variations.

  • @Extreme_Idaho_outdoors

    @Extreme_Idaho_outdoors

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Christopher Adams you think 1/4 moa grouping is better but in a lot of cases it's not watch a KZread clip with Ryan cleckner a former army sniper he says a rifle that shoots a 1 moa group is more then enough for long range he has seen guys shoot rifles with 1/4 groupings that couldn't even hit a 1000 yard target

  • @Extreme_Idaho_outdoors

    @Extreme_Idaho_outdoors

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jobson88 there is no factory made rifle companies that guarantee a shot group under sub moa which is a 1 inch group only custom made rifle companies can

  • @dufus2273
    @dufus22733 жыл бұрын

    what caliber u shooting? What's the scope brand/ power? Bullet weight? Never watched a video with no info. But after all this is only the third video.

  • @carlocuppone8303
    @carlocuppone83035 жыл бұрын

    Bravissimo, clear and simple thank you

  • @Panda74gofaster

    @Panda74gofaster

    5 жыл бұрын

    carlo cuppone I agree clear and simple, but perhaps if the excuse part was taken out, it would be a better show. Great info! Hands down, up in to the point excuses were made while he was shooting. But then again what do I know. 18Charlie/Sapper

  • @lulutileguy
    @lulutileguy2 жыл бұрын

    been watchin was doin some dis akurising me not smart like uther fellas no movies you got it down, truncated barrel nice but no advantage you knew that cheers

  • @jedirifleman
    @jedirifleman11 жыл бұрын

    This is the time when you needed to check feeding. Barrel break-in is when we need to find out if this gun has feeding issues since most of the precision work you will use single loading. Hunt day in the field miles from town is not the time to find out we have real world feeding issues.

  • @gabemazing
    @gabemazing7 жыл бұрын

    how do you get bore to scope measurement for making balistic chart

  • @wanthaseipei8480
    @wanthaseipei8480 Жыл бұрын

    Which scope are you using Sir?

  • @mjayw1111
    @mjayw111110 жыл бұрын

    Jean. He couldn't get it to 80FT LBS by using the Wheeler F.A.T. wrench. The most the wrench will torque to is just above 60 INCH LBS. He showed the Wheeler kit he was using earlier. Same one I have.

  • @edwardabrahamiii3742
    @edwardabrahamiii37423 жыл бұрын

    When i broke in my AR-15 barrel all i did was shoot rounds through it no cleaning it till i cleaned the AR still accurate as long as im aiming at my target

  • @peatmoss4946
    @peatmoss49468 жыл бұрын

    what caliber of 700 and what ammo is he using. love Remington......got a 243 varmint triangle barrel. out shoot anything in my neck of the woods. i like to hit things at least 2 quarter sections away. or out my back door

  • @sweetteaoutdoors

    @sweetteaoutdoors

    7 жыл бұрын

    7mm Rem Mag

  • @deadfish86
    @deadfish869 жыл бұрын

    In reply to John Affleck on how many shots equal a group, in this instance of zeroing a new gun/scope combo - "If" the shooter has enough experience, they can call the shots as the trigger is pulled. Thus - When I am initially zeroing a new setup, Because I trust what I see and did, I personally only take one shot, then I adjust the glass/sights. Only after I am pretty much zero'd do I take more than one shot or worry about groups. I guess more simply said, groups don't mean crap to me for new setup. Only after my rifle is set up do groups matter - to either tell me how much I suck that day, or to diagnose weapon problems.

  • @Ben-rm2kd
    @Ben-rm2kd10 жыл бұрын

    what caliber was that particular sendero? I prefer the .270 WSM for long range critters.

  • @mickluther2693

    @mickluther2693

    5 ай бұрын

    Probably a 7 mag

  • @freakin635
    @freakin63511 жыл бұрын

    I think he said the trigger is a timmney set at 2lbs. Scope is their gseven 5.5x22 and rifle was a sandero 26in flut barrel

  • @Zubtec
    @Zubtec11 жыл бұрын

    Great series. Just out of curiosity, why is the windage knob blacked out at 2:06?

  • @williamGSXR110

    @williamGSXR110

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is so they do not show the scope's manufacturer.

  • @Drivapete

    @Drivapete

    4 жыл бұрын

    The scope manufacturer isn't willing to pay for a plug. Just goes to show you where the industry as a whole has gone. It's all about the money! People with means who dont have time to enjoy a ethical hunt buy rigs to shoot long range, and there are firearms manufacturers who build rifles for these people, at a cost. I use a 257wby Vanguard topped with a Nikon 4x12 BDC reticle and shoot Barnes 100gr ttsx bullets for everything that walks. 600yds is my limit if the conditions are right. In short, I like to hunt and get close. To each his own!

  • @omaiomai1074
    @omaiomai10747 жыл бұрын

    go man

  • @Godisgood13208
    @Godisgood132083 жыл бұрын

    Next teaching video you do... you may donate the done rile to me😁

  • @Ouwkackemann
    @Ouwkackemann5 жыл бұрын

    What´s that scope?

  • @zakunderkoffler9676
    @zakunderkoffler96764 жыл бұрын

    What caliber gun is this

  • @N.s1362
    @N.s13624 жыл бұрын

    سلام ممنون از کلیپ هاتون من از ایران برنامه هاتون دنبالتون میکنم

  • @RickM1953
    @RickM19539 жыл бұрын

    I've got a group of 1/2 at 300 yds with my Remington 300 Win Mag, but mine are hand loaded.

  • @garnetclews9498

    @garnetclews9498

    6 жыл бұрын

    RickM195

  • @mmpiforall5913
    @mmpiforall59135 жыл бұрын

    Around 2:00 he seems to be reaching into the action to get the spent case out! Is there no ejector? Typically the case wants to jump out as soon as the case mouth clears the action! LOL!

  • @sethbower5321

    @sethbower5321

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reloaders save brass. They dont jack brass out to hit the ground

  • @SuperOpinion8ed
    @SuperOpinion8ed4 жыл бұрын

    curious why you walked down to measure the target. Seems like with that scope you could have milled it and corrected, and confirmed, from the bench. 100yds, 22x power, surely a milling reticle. Just me, but I hate the walk downrange. Maybe it'd be good for me though. I'm kinda fat. Oh. To show the fans on YT. I get it. You then said "I can see it through my scope, but we'll walk down there and see." So it's for us. Thanks. I'd have taken your word for it, but this is an educational video.

  • @ronjohnson8386
    @ronjohnson83869 жыл бұрын

    do a show on brecking in a barrell

  • @jackdaniels7913

    @jackdaniels7913

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes pleas a real no bs brake in from start to finish!

  • @bugs6857
    @bugs68574 жыл бұрын

    Have a out of the box 700 IN 30_06 that touches holes at 100 yards with a nikon 3x9

  • @alexanderchapman1

    @alexanderchapman1

    3 жыл бұрын

    700s are wonderful. Had a .308 VS BDL that did 1/2" at 100 yards after a simple glass bedding and a Leopold MK IV scope.

  • @jimmorwood9715
    @jimmorwood97154 жыл бұрын

    What calibre

  • @themotobois5857
    @themotobois58576 жыл бұрын

    Scope?

  • @7071t6
    @7071t65 жыл бұрын

    Now just imagine if you brought a customized barrel as well, say with a 1 in 10 twist or 1 on 8 twist and stainless steel as well, with match projectiles and powder for a 308 or 7.62 X 51 ,then you have a real good rifle more accurate than the stock remington 700, with grouping sizes at 1,000 yards to 1,500 yards of around 2 to 3 inches ? But its about costs as well, most sure accurate single shot rifles will set you back about 2.5 k and upto 8 K depending what your going to be shooting for target comp say F class or hunting for deer etc. :) again ost 308 rounds are good for about 800 yards, but beyond that you need to customise the rounds and powder used ,say a 220 grain with the right powder you cant do a 1,500 yards shot no problems, unless you want to go to .338 or .50 cal or 375 cheytac etc. :) Its about making the round do its best, compared to off the shelf rounds and thats the challenge of it all ? Like a SAKO M10 is about 20K all up with scope and extras, most people do not have 20K to spend on a rifle which is made for snipers and comes in various calibers from 308 right up to .50 cal and .338. :) Also great stuff for those who want to shoot at greater distances and if you have friends as pro gunsmiths the sky is the limit ?

  • @sclogsdon
    @sclogsdon5 жыл бұрын

    Since when is clockwise on the turret lowing your poi?

  • @Thestripper1
    @Thestripper110 жыл бұрын

    Why do everybody who is shooting from bench only load single rounds in the chamber and not use the magazine? I always load my mag up with the numbers of rounds I am going to fire at the target, usually 3 shot groups.

  • @Ciabattafun

    @Ciabattafun

    9 жыл бұрын

    patience mate. Gives time for relaxation, eye relief, rifle inspection as well as round inspection. Precision shooting is all about repeatable results. Yes, you can take your time with a loaded magazine as well; however, with rounds ready to shoot you are tempted to decrease your split times and get another round off before you are fully relaxed. Further, you dont have the opportunity to identify any minor imperfections in the next round. Copper tip can be deformed if it rubbed against the front of the magazine, case can be dented or damaged if it did not feed 100% flawlessy from a magazine etc. Few precision shooters shoot from a magazine. The time it takes to physically reload another single round gives plenty of time to inspect the rifle, the next round, relax, and repeat for an entire day.

  • @sandych33ks1

    @sandych33ks1

    8 жыл бұрын

    +jonnebanan The reason they don't load up the mags is because allot of the time reloads wont fit in the mags.. The bullet seating is not set to factory spec. They push the bullet out closer to the lands for better accuracy.. Which varies from gun to gun and bullets..

  • @TexanUSMC8089

    @TexanUSMC8089

    7 жыл бұрын

    It makes you slow down. As a barrel heats up it flexes more and your groups will spread.

  • @blakemilford9128

    @blakemilford9128

    6 жыл бұрын

    jonnebanan get a thesaurus.

  • @63grandsport11

    @63grandsport11

    5 жыл бұрын

    I guess you have never fired NRA rapid fire at 200/300 yard competition. Fkexing...thats what cutting flutes into the barrel does besides making it lighter it makes it stiffer. The same as having a heavy contoured match barrel.

  • @flatpikinguitar
    @flatpikinguitar11 жыл бұрын

    It should shoot much better once you establish a state of copper equilibrium.

  • @jeanarouet879
    @jeanarouet87911 жыл бұрын

    I realise this is a special group at the range but safety anywhere else would be removing the bolt not leaving the rifle able to be used by someone else...with you as target. Shooting 'normal' for a factory rifle'...Hmmmm....but this is bedded and improved not a 'factory rifle' . My suggestion in pt 2 might make quite a difference in properly truing ALL the scope mount and I am still uncomfortable with the 80ftlbs....I reckon that igh torque will contribute to variable placements for a while.

  • @ratcamaro
    @ratcamaro5 жыл бұрын

    Muzzled the cameraman.

  • @mmpiforall5913
    @mmpiforall59135 жыл бұрын

    His groups aren't that great but he fails to mention trying other loads can result in tighter groups, ie, where the gun 'likes' specific ammo and shoots surprisingly tight groups!

  • @ronws2007
    @ronws20072 жыл бұрын

    I also don't see the need for the grief. This was a factory budget rifle with a few tweeks that can make it as a long range rifle. Already, with the bedding and light trigger, shooting slightly less than 1 inch at 100 yards. In the Army, that qualifies as a rifle good for long range. Snipers are not trying pierce ear lobes at 1000 yards, that is all Hollywood. What snipers in the military do is get 220 grains of "stop it!" into a 20 inch x 12 inch target at 600 yards. At 600 yards, this rifle might have a 6 inch drift. On a 20 x 12 target, that is a hit. A deer has a zone of heart and lungs that is about an 8 in pie plate midway between the shoulder blade and the chest line. Not many people I know hunt deer at 600 yards, mostly because of the energy you have left. For example, .308 Win, my round, goes below 1,000 ft-lbs of force at around 600 yards. So, for maximum energy and stopping "power," I need to be closer than 600 yards. Right now, I am competent at 100 yards. The place I normally hunt has 50 yard distances. So, I am within the range of my competency and the effective range of a .308 Win. Now, there are things he could do that I have done, but all he was doing was fixing up the stock that came with the gun. I have a Mossberg Patriot .308 Win that I put in an MDT chassis, no extra bedding needed, the V channel in the aluminum is the bedding. Also, the gun with big scope on it now weighs about 12 pounds. A bit heavy for a back country or public land still hunt but the weight settles you down at the bench of a shooting competition. He has not really added weight to this rifle unless 1 ounce of bedding epoxy is a back-breaker. About a 1.5 scope but worth the weight for the observable accuracy. Most of the things he has done could be done at the factory but the rifle would cost more. More materials, more time, more expensive materials, such as the trigger assembly. In the end, you may have paid the same amount in total outlay of parts and your time to assemble this. What I appreciate is how he explains it without being condescending. He is talking to experts and newbies alike.

  • @turkeybobjr
    @turkeybobjr9 жыл бұрын

    Does anybody know what scope he's using on that rifle?

  • @arth5911

    @arth5911

    9 жыл бұрын

    It's a G7 scope

  • @plojo3981
    @plojo39812 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @mr1hanky
    @mr1hanky10 жыл бұрын

    considering todays ammo cost i think its ok

  • @taiming71
    @taiming7110 жыл бұрын

    My 308 shoots that with factory ammo at 200yds. cz550 with federal 168 smk.

  • @markognat
    @markognat9 жыл бұрын

    1:27 :)

  • @igot99problemsbutmyaltaint73
    @igot99problemsbutmyaltaint734 жыл бұрын

    Bore sighting a bolt action,Cmon what fun is that =>

  • @1984WillS

    @1984WillS

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just pull the bolt and look through the barrel

  • @timmcfarland3311
    @timmcfarland33114 жыл бұрын

    Why wouldn’t he set the zero stop

  • @mikec.9177
    @mikec.91774 жыл бұрын

    Sight in at 25 yards you won’t have to walk down range so far to look at your target and your rifle will be on at 200 yards or very close.

  • @stephenchilcott1595
    @stephenchilcott15954 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only person that thinks this guy sounds like Bill Murray from Caddyshack?

  • @Mr1OM
    @Mr1OM11 жыл бұрын

    Its a Sandero

  • @frankeycrawford
    @frankeycrawford5 жыл бұрын

    Wait..the first the shots where on a different sheet of paper than the second set of shots

  • @damondiehl5637

    @damondiehl5637

    5 жыл бұрын

    And he had a lot more than six expended rounds sticking out of his box of ammo. Editing, it's a blessing or a curse.

  • @jimellenw
    @jimellenw7 жыл бұрын

    Not controlling the muzzle? A hand hold on the stock fore end. Not a lot of pressure.

  • @yomommasgardener9648
    @yomommasgardener96488 жыл бұрын

    What caliber is it

  • @sioty13

    @sioty13

    7 жыл бұрын

    excalibur

  • @Heath_Conley_I_Am

    @Heath_Conley_I_Am

    7 жыл бұрын

    Aaron Mendez my question as well

  • @ablink6002

    @ablink6002

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Gileo Chan that's a crossbow

  • @nathancecil638

    @nathancecil638

    7 жыл бұрын

    .308 win mag/7.62 Nato

  • @sweetteaoutdoors

    @sweetteaoutdoors

    7 жыл бұрын

    He is shooting a 7mm Rem Mag.

  • @bearbait2221
    @bearbait22215 жыл бұрын

    Why Nightforce and not leupold the guy need an excuse when he misses

  • @MrTNBassmaster
    @MrTNBassmaster5 жыл бұрын

    Handloads would be 1/2" group

  • @madade27

    @madade27

    4 жыл бұрын

    really? talk about stating the obvious!

  • @carlcrook4803
    @carlcrook48034 жыл бұрын

    Being a range officer number one rule is eyes and ears. I see the ears I don't see eye protection.

  • @whitey211
    @whitey2119 жыл бұрын

    Barrel break in is a waste of time. Nearly all the big barrel makers and "big time" shooters are coming around to the same conclusion. Don't waste your time and money. Just shoot the thing.

  • @dansmith5524

    @dansmith5524

    9 жыл бұрын

    whitey211 Any time spent at the range is not a waste. "Just shoot the thing." Duh, that's what breaking in the barrel is doing, just shooting. There is no consensus between "big barrel makers" and "big time shooters" about the effectiveness of breaking in a barrel. But it does no harm to clean a barrel a couple of times during the first 20 or so shots, while siting in the scope and getting familiar with the rifle. When I go to shoot I normally shoot 4 or 5 shots then stop to let the barrel cool, so what does it harm if while I wait for it to cool I run a couple of patches down the bore? How have I wasted time or money? I guess you mount a scope and never zero it, or else that would be, as you say, a waste of your time and money.

  • @OakieDoc

    @OakieDoc

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bartlein, Krieger and Lilja ALL recommend a barrel break-in process. These are top of the line barrels, and are used by the pros in the Precision Rifle Series (the NASCAR of long range shooting). So, you are just plain wrong.

  • @Kman31ca

    @Kman31ca

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not the barrel, but the throat you want to break in. And like said above, all major manufacturers of custom barrels do say you should break it in. But I'm with you on that its not a huge deal if you don't. I have on some, have not on others. And they all shoot fine. I do like to run some JBs to polish up the throat though. But I usually do that after the first 20 shots at home. And I'm careful not to over heat the barrel.

  • @jonathanm1854

    @jonathanm1854

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree, some of these guys are spending HOURS doing this break in crap... Factory and custom rifles, they get some brake cleaner down the barrel when new, a little air, a dry patch, and a patch with oil.. and I shoot.. Never a single negative thing has happened, and all shoot very well.

  • @darrenjones9180

    @darrenjones9180

    5 жыл бұрын

    He does know what hes talking about

  • @PATSICK
    @PATSICK10 жыл бұрын

    The standard saying amongst people who understand this subject is "three shots are a co-incidence, five shots are a group". three shots aren't enough of a sample to determine anything. Continuing with the Math. a ten shot group has about six times the validity of a five shot group.

  • @brno1985
    @brno19859 жыл бұрын

    Rubbish bags are not going to help your groups.They have points on the bases for a reason. So the rifle free recoills? Why are they retracted?

  • @suferwill808
    @suferwill80810 жыл бұрын

    Wouldnt you want to sight it in at 200

  • @BlueonGoldZ

    @BlueonGoldZ

    9 жыл бұрын

    He wants to see the tightest groups based on MOA. 100 yards is usually the standard especially for larger caliber rifles.

  • @coreyshier7526
    @coreyshier75267 жыл бұрын

    Not that it would make a bit of difference at all, but just for shits-n-giggles I'd like Mike n/or his brother mention the friggin' caliber of these rifles when they're on the range or out in the field hunting.

  • @coreyshier7526

    @coreyshier7526

    7 жыл бұрын

    This being the 3rd of 4 videos in the "Series" I've come to the conclusion that they must be afraid of people w/ADD getting distracted and tuning out if they don't crank up the heavy metal background music t keep them interested when they ain't talking.

  • @orional1977
    @orional19775 жыл бұрын

    Eye pro?

  • @Regnisab
    @Regnisab6 жыл бұрын

    Why walk out and measure. Just hold the rifle dead center again, and crank the turrets to where the bullets were hitting. Next shot will be dead center.

  • @alonzokincaid1362

    @alonzokincaid1362

    5 жыл бұрын

    John Basinger you are genius!

  • @JamesJones-cx5pk
    @JamesJones-cx5pk2 жыл бұрын

    At least glass bed the recoil lug.

  • @cpreit8862
    @cpreit88624 ай бұрын

    Lol, you shot a hole box of bullets at what to break it in and not be sighted in.

  • @keltinhieatt8332
    @keltinhieatt83328 жыл бұрын

    your in way to much of a hurry,and you should of look threw the scope and moved the cross hairs to the bullet hole and then made any adjusting if any.....slow down man...lol!!!

  • @bullast2046

    @bullast2046

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Aaron Kellar do it on all my rifles. Just read how far off you are on the reticle and adjust your turrets. I shoot mils but same concept.

  • @mattr8237

    @mattr8237

    7 жыл бұрын

    It all depends on the accuracy/quality of your barrel. If you paid for a cheaper barrel then 3 shot zero is the way to go. If it's a high-end barrel then you can get down to a precise single shot adjustment after each round. There are more variables involved but the specs generally are the most significant if you don't include the obvious shooter error.

  • @loganhenry3322
    @loganhenry33225 жыл бұрын

    2 minutes down and 2 minutes left ?? don’t you mean 2 inches

  • @robertbrandywine

    @robertbrandywine

    4 жыл бұрын

    At 100 yards its about the same.

  • @bigdog3697
    @bigdog36977 жыл бұрын

    Good work on a factory rifle ,but this is like putting lipstic on a pig. If your going to shoot long range you have to start with a match grade barrel and reload you ammo. I think we all agree , I have a SAVAGE matchgrade barrel, adjustable trigger to 3 ounce benchrest stock for $1100.00 if I built it it would be $2000.00 for a few hundred more it was a bargain. Factory guns are better than ever for general hunting there a great way to go

  • @stuart0604
    @stuart06044 жыл бұрын

    Title should have been zeroing in a rifle...

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542

    @dalanwanbdiska6542

    4 жыл бұрын

    4 part series dumbass

  • @Hatvui1369
    @Hatvui136910 жыл бұрын

    how to line up my telescope with mu gun to get in the target

  • @larslake
    @larslake7 жыл бұрын

    So far you've got $3000 tied up in a gun that won't shoot a sub .5 moa. - If you re-chamber it and get rid of the factory funnel throat and work up a round, that rifle is capable of shooting .25 moa with a factory barrel. You might not want to reload and/or lower the muzzle velocity to gain that kind of accuracy. If this is the case, then enjoy. As for me, I wouldn't own a rifle that won't shoot consistently inside a .45 moa.

  • @dubbyad

    @dubbyad

    7 жыл бұрын

    Small groups are nice for winning bar bets and showing off at the range, but the reality is, if a rifle is sub MOA you are good for hits on a vital zone of wild game out to 1000yds at least. At that range your ability to read wind is going to have a bigger impact on hit percentage vs. shrinking your groups from

  • @larslake

    @larslake

    7 жыл бұрын

    I agree with all that you have written here. Many hunters rely on a kill with a body shot. If a rifle shoots 1moa at 1000 yrds. your grouping will be around 10 inches. If you have a rifle that shoots 1.25 moa your group is 12.5 inches - 1.5 moa = 15 inches at 1000yds. Factor in wind correction and all the rest of the variables the chances increase drastically that you won't hit anywhere close to that given minute-of-angle that your rifle shoots. Bottom line is - the tighter the grouping the longer the shot. Now I know hunters that are shooting 8 moa rifles and kill deer every season, but they shoot around 100 yards giving them an 8in. bullet group and they don't worry about wind corrections. I can easily understand you are trying to sell rifles and minimize refitting costs and I'm ok with that. But stay away from advertising a long range rifle and suggest shooting at a 1000 yards. FYI Your competition is re-working new stock Remington 700 action/barreled rifles that sell for $1600. w/o scope and that are shooting .5 moa with factory hunting ammo. - I shoot a custom .300 WM with a .3 moa @ ranges from 100 to1000 yards. I don't claim to be an expert, but I've got a pretty good idea how difficult it is. Good Luck.

  • @dubbyad

    @dubbyad

    7 жыл бұрын

    Right, except I showed you with concrete data exactly what the probability of that hit happening or not happening is, not anecdotal evidence, and it wasnt "drastic" by any stretch of the english language. Thats the whole point of running a monte carlo simulation, you account for all of the uncertainty and variability from wind, range, velocity standard deviation, rifle accuracy etc, and the only thing you change is the variable whose sensitivity you are testing (MOA precision of the rifle in this case). It's not just one dimension... and by doing so I showed you that a 1MOA capable rifle has only 5.5pts lower hit percentage, 69.7% vs 75.3% hit probability on a vial zone sized target, at 1000 yds vs a rifle capable of .25MOA, all else being equal. To put that into context, the world record for 1000yds bench rest shooting is .27 MOA. So you would need a rifle capable of world record bench rest accuracy to gain a whopping 8% advantage at 1000yds over a 1MOA capable rifle at 1000yds. Heres the link, go read all that they have to say precisionrifleblog.com/2015/06/09/how-much-does-it-matter-overall-summary/ You came into here advocating spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars re-barreling a rifle to gain this 8% advantage... you are right, you are definitely not an expert. I also think you have me confused with someone else, I don't build/sell rifles, I dont have any "competitors", I'm just a statistician.

  • @larslake

    @larslake

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the link. That was a very interesting article. here's a quote "I’m not saying you shouldn’t get the most precise rifle you can afford, or that you’re wasting time meticulously perfecting your loads. To each his own. I still plan to handload for some of my rifles. The key is to look at where your biggest room for improvement lies. Which uncertainty is the leading cause to your misses? Once you identify that, strategically focus and put your energy towards improving that area. Eventually, that aspect will transform from a weakness to a strength, and then you can shift your attention to the next leading factor that is causing your bullet to be off target. Todd Hodnett probably doesn’t need to spend more time perfecting his wind calling ability. He seems to have those primary factors buttoned up pretty tight, and therefore the precision of the rifle/ammo or the consistency of the muzzle velocity may be what he needs to focus on. It all depends on where you’re at on this journey. I’m certainly not there! I never said re-barrel anything! It costs $200 to $250 to re-chamber that will do away with a lot of issues concerning the factory chamber. Lose the high price scope like the Night Force and go with Leopold. That will drop the lay-out and as the article says focus on the other higher returns. I'm not going to get into a name calling contest with you. You're a statistician that's good - look at the first AB picture in the article. NUFF SAID Good Luck with your videos

  • @TexanUSMC8089

    @TexanUSMC8089

    7 жыл бұрын

    Everybody on youtube can shoot .25 moa. LOL

  • @Guide504
    @Guide5046 жыл бұрын

    If a sondero doesnt shoot 1/2 moa out the box with good amo it should go back. It is sold as a long range rifle period. Nasic light waight stalking rifles must hold moa min in a moder sporting rifle the manufactures have no excuse its bloody lazy and taking the piss.

  • @alonzokincaid1362

    @alonzokincaid1362

    5 жыл бұрын

    Guide504 a do wut?

  • @damondiehl5637

    @damondiehl5637

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alonzokincaid1362 I had to use Google to figure out what he was saying. For one, it's "Sendero", not "sondero". Second, I think "Nasic light waight stalking rifles" means "Basic lightweight stalking rifles". Finally, "taking the piss" means to take liberties at the expense of others, or to be joking, or to be unreasonable. One would hope it wouldn't take that much work to decipher a KZread post.

  • @foxtrap8826
    @foxtrap88265 жыл бұрын

    Great series of videos, but the hard rock/fuzzbox music totally sucks.

  • @awd3418
    @awd34185 жыл бұрын

    barrel break in bullshit