Computer Cheater Plays a Ridiculous Queen Sacrifice

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It was confirmed after the game that my opponent was indeed using computer assistance :(
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  • @connors2388
    @connors23885 жыл бұрын

    This is among the most ice cold savage winning tactics I've ever seen. Props to GM Stockfish for finding the win!

  • @francescopremsolidoro3858

    @francescopremsolidoro3858

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tho the first move (Qd5) isn't hard to consider... then tho I wanna see any human calculating all the lines and finding the courage to play that

  • @Dante20321

    @Dante20321

    4 жыл бұрын

    PlayerForSerendipity agreed

  • @hyzercreek

    @hyzercreek

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@francescopremsolidoro3858 Qd5 is mate in one if pawn takes. Courage to play mate in one?

  • @MrIzzyDizzy

    @MrIzzyDizzy

    4 жыл бұрын

    it is a gm level + puzzle. if any human could even solve it. This is the full on 3500 level.

  • @monkkenyon2539

    @monkkenyon2539

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your comment should be pinned

  • @sumukhanadig3986
    @sumukhanadig39864 жыл бұрын

    Eric : Chooses not to look at an old game against the same guy to get insights because its unethical Opponent : Uses engine against him to win

  • @lethanielsimpson641
    @lethanielsimpson6416 жыл бұрын

    "Chess is difficult, when you fully involve yourself and still have no idea whats going on." My entire existence lol

  • @eric-rosen

    @eric-rosen

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think this describes life for most people 😂

  • @geometricart7851

    @geometricart7851

    5 жыл бұрын

    chess is life!

  • @arogueburrito

    @arogueburrito

    5 жыл бұрын

    I may be mishearing Mr. Rosen, but at around 31 minutes it sounds like he says: "his moves... Are these moves"

  • @PatrickMorcillo

    @PatrickMorcillo

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@eric-rosen LOL! :-D

  • @ianclarke5404

    @ianclarke5404

    5 жыл бұрын

    Quantum chess

  • @badgerbucks4460
    @badgerbucks44604 жыл бұрын

    His reaction to a super computer is my reaction to ordinary 900 players when they beat me.

  • @tiger648

    @tiger648

    4 жыл бұрын

    lmfao i was listening to it in the background while reading this comment and it should be a meme

  • @andressstyle6390

    @andressstyle6390

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dude, how can a 900 rated player actually beat someone ...

  • @zan7848

    @zan7848

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andress Style a 900 player beats a 900 player once in every two games

  • @vit9480

    @vit9480

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andress Style You were once beaten by lower than 900 players, stay delusional

  • @andressstyle6390

    @andressstyle6390

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vit9480 yeah, but now for me it looks Impossible to lose against a 900 player .

  • @aristodemosii.1980
    @aristodemosii.19805 жыл бұрын

    In the bottom right corner at the end you can actually see that the computer analysis says "0 blunders, 0 mistakes, 0 inaccuracies" about the white game.

  • @curtisw0234

    @curtisw0234

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's actually pretty common in games that aren't complicated

  • @dany.8503

    @dany.8503

    5 жыл бұрын

    curtisw0234 unless your opponent keeps blundering and you play the possible best if not good moves

  • @stirling3523

    @stirling3523

    5 жыл бұрын

    curtisw0234 No, it’s not. Barely ever even happens to GMs in long time controls.

  • @fakerfish1881

    @fakerfish1881

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@curtisw0234 inaccuracies are anything less than losing a pawn, its impossible to not have any.

  • @curtisw0234

    @curtisw0234

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@fakerfish1881 what is your rating surely not above 2200

  • @meanintellectual6593
    @meanintellectual65933 жыл бұрын

    Eric: spend 7 minutes to play a natural pawn move The opponent: *sac his queen (twice) in 6 seconds* The people in chat: it seems legit

  • @modolief
    @modolief6 жыл бұрын

    31:09 -- The Queen sac occurs here.

  • @ytmndman

    @ytmndman

    6 жыл бұрын

    I skipped to 10 seconds before that in the video, paused it, and found the sac easily.

  • @modolief

    @modolief

    6 жыл бұрын

    ytmndman that’s pretty elite

  • @THEGLORYRISING

    @THEGLORYRISING

    6 жыл бұрын

    wow, you are told there's a queen sac then you find it. Amazing.

  • @ytmndman

    @ytmndman

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah it is easier to find if you know it's there

  • @stefanjoeres7149

    @stefanjoeres7149

    6 жыл бұрын

    ytmndman i read the comments then the position occurred, i paused and found nothing. I have 2100 rating so are you a titled player?

  • @soflynn22
    @soflynn224 жыл бұрын

    Eric Rosen: i'm in awe of whats he's just done Stockfish: Too weak, too slow

  • @cauler6627

    @cauler6627

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eric: “wooOOOW”

  • @gluonpa6878
    @gluonpa68785 жыл бұрын

    To those who says the sac is obivous: yeah, if the sac is accepted, it looks crushing, but you also have to calculate if the sac is refused, which is much harder.

  • @joesimon2018
    @joesimon20185 жыл бұрын

    I knew something was Stockfishy when he traded that rook for a bishop

  • @bonniejunk

    @bonniejunk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @JL-CptAtom Rooks are more helpful in getting a checkmate and controlling files later on, so they're valued higher.

  • @StrengthScholar0

    @StrengthScholar0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Dominus Providebit He's not playing Magnus he's playing someone whose not even an IM

  • @dragouspe3n

    @dragouspe3n

    4 жыл бұрын

    Something Stockfishy haha best pun ever :D

  • @noobmasteryoyo5136

    @noobmasteryoyo5136

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@StrengthScholar0 Not to mention the exchange sacrifice doesn't even lead to any huge positional advantage immediately, although in hindsight he loses vital control of the dark squares

  • @arsene4440

    @arsene4440

    4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly all in all you can say it was a perfect game from white. Even if you argue that the knight and queen sacrifice could be found but the whole game was too good starting from BA3 when he stopped black from castling. Every move was like best move. I think a human could play this good but not in a 20 min game.

  • @frooshante
    @frooshante5 жыл бұрын

    i like that Eric didn't immediately suspect cheating, instead he gave respect and was "in awe" of the good moves. the cheating made for a legitimately good video :) thanks, Eric!

  • @curtisw0234

    @curtisw0234

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's bad form to publicly call someone out for cheating. In some cases if the person makes money from chess you could even face legal action. It's best to wait until lichess determines they are a cheater which happened after the video was recorded of course

  • @Clifton100

    @Clifton100

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@curtisw0234 what country do you live in? Dumb if you're usa cuz slander laws r not that strict here

  • @cbkm0

    @cbkm0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Clifton100 Idk it might be. Defamation law suits might apply.

  • @veronicaconnolly4542

    @veronicaconnolly4542

    4 жыл бұрын

    He kept making sly comments that it was an engine

  • @rarepepe8790

    @rarepepe8790

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@curtisw0234 Rosen I believe has the right to tell if someone may be using computer assistance. Why do I know this? Because he actually knows what he is talking about 😂

  • @pjdigrazia4092
    @pjdigrazia40925 жыл бұрын

    Wow this was so sad Alexa play chesspacito

  • @justicemarr8747

    @justicemarr8747

    5 жыл бұрын

    aHAha

  • @midas8877

    @midas8877

    5 жыл бұрын

    Legendary meme

  • @Wachary1

    @Wachary1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @puppy8125

    @puppy8125

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hectic Binary Rapid Degeneration *Dead

  • @AlvaroVera93

    @AlvaroVera93

    4 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHAHAa

  • @MichaelIhde69
    @MichaelIhde692 жыл бұрын

    this is kinda difficult to watch seeing eric try so hard. of course nobody stands even the slightest chance against stockfish, but it still made my heart hurt a little. he perseveres through what is obviously an intense mental exercise against extremely unfair odds. he’s such a wholesome guy, and he handled this in the best way possible in my opinion. took it as a learning experience and didn’t get angry. gained so much respect for this guy in less than 30 minutes

  • @nathank-jw7uv

    @nathank-jw7uv

    2 жыл бұрын

    it made me smile when he said at the end how it was an instructive learning experience and how he'll show it to his students, was absolutely baffled when he was able to make light of that game

  • @sliceoflife5812

    @sliceoflife5812

    Жыл бұрын

    Magnus did bit stockfish a few times didnt he? I know Alpha0 took it for a walk

  • @bonzjoe

    @bonzjoe

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sliceoflife5812 In this time format it might be possible to draw against it if you come into it with preparation but winning is hopeless

  • @jaideepshekhar4621

    @jaideepshekhar4621

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sliceoflife5812 Huh? Nobody can beat a computer?

  • @azcac8349

    @azcac8349

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jaideepshekhar4621no

  • @benjis540
    @benjis5404 жыл бұрын

    I like how you said in the beginning it would be unerhical to look at the two games you playd before

  • @someolddude3858

    @someolddude3858

    4 жыл бұрын

    If he was really ethical he wouldn't use the computer drawing arrows and the like to essentially "take notes" when he is determining his next move. Try something like that in a real over-the-board tournament and the TD will punish you for cheating. No memory aids or notes are allowed when you are playing. You shouldn't even write your move down until after you have made it on the board.

  • @benjis540

    @benjis540

    4 жыл бұрын

    Laurence Battin I don‘t think that drawing arrows is unethical, because it‘s a legal tool provided by lichess and furthermore it‘s really helpful for me as a viewer to understand Erics‘ thought process.

  • @josin007

    @josin007

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@someolddude3858 over the board has its own rules. Online chess has different rules.

  • @xavierazad

    @xavierazad

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@someolddude3858 He's doing it for the viewers not himself.

  • @djn6962

    @djn6962

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some Old Dude you seem rather agitated. Was your lichess username ”Suprememonk” by chance?

  • @deepakk1944
    @deepakk19445 жыл бұрын

    I like how he still takes something positive out of it, and thanks his opponent for a wonderful move to teach to his students. Now that's the attitude of a passionate teacher.

  • @ErkaaJ
    @ErkaaJ4 жыл бұрын

    Chess is one of the few games where you play against a cheater but still say "wow that was cool move".

  • @Wilker_uwu

    @Wilker_uwu

    3 жыл бұрын

    i wonder what computer assistance cheats looks like in other perfect information games other than Chess. it would be funny to make one for something like Trackmania Nations Forever

  • @Drew-jy7dl

    @Drew-jy7dl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wilker_uwu they already have bots for trackmania, that workout shortcuts automatically

  • @Wilker_uwu

    @Wilker_uwu

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Drew-jy7dl wait, really? for most of what i've known about Trackmania's history, all of the ghosts in the game are pre-recorded, while there's people in the community trying to build machine learning stuff for the game. where can i find these bots?

  • @jacobshirley3457

    @jacobshirley3457

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't play Go, but I'd also assume the same there.

  • @AntiochSanders
    @AntiochSanders5 жыл бұрын

    "I see a draw though" drawing against a computer is pretty good

  • @rykehuss3435

    @rykehuss3435

    3 жыл бұрын

    Drawing against good engine on decent hardware is not possible for humans, no matter what you do

  • @maxkho00

    @maxkho00

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rykehuss3435 The Stockfish on Lichess is not run on decent hardware. Actually, people like Jonathan Shrantz have beaten this version of Stockfish with special prep in the Stafford and Nakhmanson, and Magnus managed to get a drawing endgame against it. Mind you, it's still stronger than any human on Earth, but it's definitely not unbeatable.

  • @MrinfinityLT
    @MrinfinityLT6 жыл бұрын

    Spectacular game, it's a shame that it's computer assisted and you were on the back end of it but still there is some positive outcome out of this mess, a beautiful position to show.

  • @TheRealBlueSwan

    @TheRealBlueSwan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Would make for a great chess puzzle.

  • @eduarditoz3941

    @eduarditoz3941

    5 жыл бұрын

    And supreme got banned

  • @greysub924

    @greysub924

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@eduarditoz3941 Thats the best part

  • @SeanyMac1986
    @SeanyMac19864 жыл бұрын

    So as I played this video I played all the moves with a chess sim. It's clear that the opponent is doing the same. What is great though, is Eric searching for calculations and predictions from the human mind and the amount of stress it is causing him. Well played Eric!

  • @taunggoy
    @taunggoy5 жыл бұрын

    This is in addition to the many comments about finding out that SupremeMonk's account is flagged as a computer user. If you check his games before this one, he has won 16 in a row and 18 out of 19. Overall, 94 wins in 105 games. Most of his losses are when he started playing in Lichess. Pretty strong evidence of a cheater in my opinion.

  • @barrybathwater4877

    @barrybathwater4877

    5 жыл бұрын

    classic mad cuz bad

  • @auralbalm

    @auralbalm

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes especially considering he lost to a 1700 with check mate

  • @iniddor4454

    @iniddor4454

    4 жыл бұрын

    Of a pretty stupid cheater, for that matter

  • @threethrushes

    @threethrushes

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@auralbalm The 1700 was also using Stockfish.

  • @cauler6627

    @cauler6627

    2 жыл бұрын

    Guess what a cheater’s favorite food is?…………… PUMPKINS‼️😁

  • @chrisiver8506
    @chrisiver85066 жыл бұрын

    You need to get better so you can beat these computers lol

  • @droceretik

    @droceretik

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, get better than Carlsen. Sure, easy peasy.

  • @Speedymisha

    @Speedymisha

    5 жыл бұрын

    Even Carlsen cannot beat a computer, they can think of billions of combinations

  • @sesanti

    @sesanti

    5 жыл бұрын

    Best chess computers/engines are far far ahead from humans now.

  • @rykehuss3435

    @rykehuss3435

    5 жыл бұрын

    Carlsen ELO something like 2900 last time I checked. Stockfish 9 ELO 4000+. Chess engines would make any human look like a toddler.

  • @DirtyPoul

    @DirtyPoul

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he's a total noob. He can't even beat bots!

  • @delboy9234
    @delboy92345 жыл бұрын

    SupremeStockfish played well here.

  • @stanaklol
    @stanaklol5 жыл бұрын

    Crazy queen sac that seems unfindable but still so logical once shown.

  • @joannewilson6577

    @joannewilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not hard to find for an expert!

  • @Tobi-pn2xs

    @Tobi-pn2xs

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joannewilson6577 maybe in a very long OTB game it's realistic but with those time controls very hard to spot

  • @joannewilson6577

    @joannewilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Tobi-pn2xs Have you ever see an IM like John Bartholomew or like IM Altonian play blitz games against a 2000 uscf....it's like seeing a good player play chess against a beginner. The speed and the huge knowledge is very impressive.

  • @Tobi-pn2xs

    @Tobi-pn2xs

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joannewilson6577 yeah you do have a point, especially after I've seen Nakamura vs Gingergm but for a non title player, it's really unlikely to find

  • @joannewilson6577

    @joannewilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Tobi-pn2xs and remember when some one is very tired because he has been playing non stop for for hours and he chat at the same time he cannot play has well has if he was rested.

  • @mr.bananaman2533
    @mr.bananaman25335 жыл бұрын

    Whenever somebody seems like they are cheating against me then I let the computer analyze. If he played perfectly then I check his other games to see if this was a fluke. If all are perfect, I report him to the lichess CIA (Cheating Investigation Association or smth)

  • @HazzyHaz

    @HazzyHaz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Someone could easily mix in blunders while cheating and go undetected

  • @johnlycott8538

    @johnlycott8538

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or play normal in the opening and cheat in middlegame

  • @janehrahan5116

    @janehrahan5116

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cheaters aren't smart. If they were they wouldn't cheat on freaking lichess.

  • @samuelhong4272

    @samuelhong4272

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@janehrahan5116 what are you talking about?

  • @sausage4mash

    @sausage4mash

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've had quite a few games 0 mistake 0 blunders ect it does happen and i'm only a 1700 -1800 player ,depends on the game if it's highly complex and you get a 0 0 0 then yeah probably cheating ,but you'd be wrong to assume all 0 games are cheaters

  • @firmin2005
    @firmin20055 жыл бұрын

    Lichess will return you any ranking points you lost to that cheater.

  • @kama2106

    @kama2106

    4 жыл бұрын

    What about points you won to a cheater?

  • @silverdeathgamer2907

    @silverdeathgamer2907

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ktbDash A bit late but I presume sometimes they might lose on purpose or play some non-optimal moves to make themselves look less suspicious.

  • @MrSupernova111

    @MrSupernova111

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kama2106 . Hilarious concept!

  • @turkiyett0928

    @turkiyett0928

    3 жыл бұрын

    His rating provisional

  • @michaelsanagustin1699
    @michaelsanagustin16995 жыл бұрын

    Eric is so wholesome he even gave him credit and said dang that’s why he took so long before Ng5yop

  • @niniyaya7392
    @niniyaya73925 жыл бұрын

    the queen move is like one of those puzzles which asks you to find the most insane move

  • @joannewilson6577

    @joannewilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not at all for an expert 2000 elo.

  • @Guacamully
    @Guacamully4 жыл бұрын

    I really admire players who go out of their way to give the cheater the benefit of the doubt, especially after such a loss. "it's entirely possible a human could find that move." It's especially satisfying when the player gets caught cheating later on. Props :)

  • @cauler6627

    @cauler6627

    2 жыл бұрын

    When did he get caught ?

  • @TheOlaMG
    @TheOlaMG2 жыл бұрын

    Gothamchess brought me here

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova1116 жыл бұрын

    I would be livid if someone cheated me so blatantly. Way to stay so calm and turn it into a positive.

  • @owennorth4045
    @owennorth4045 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know why but I keep coming back to this video after all these years

  • @Xpegasu
    @Xpegasu6 жыл бұрын

    man, seeing this was so painful. I know the feeling of being destroyed more than i would like to, even if it is against a computer.

  • @voluntarism335

    @voluntarism335

    3 жыл бұрын

    you just need to get better scrub

  • @Berek71182
    @Berek711825 жыл бұрын

    For everyone who ask: "How do you know he is cheating?!" 1. think for yourself and L2P to spot it for yourself. 2. Watch the entire game, exspecially the moves from 11:00 and later. -> 2a) White loses a rook for a piece and get powerfull Attack: f6 weakens the kingside. With only a few minutes of thinking several moves ahead with this kind of sacrifife is nearly impossible to spot in a quickgame. 2b) Qc4 is also a very weird move to which sacrificaes again a pawns. d2 2c) even without the mistake Qa5 there are several hidden attacks for white. It's imbossible to spot them in such a shoirt amount of time without cheating. 3. White took his time on moves that are actually part of the combination, while a move that starts or force the combination are done withing seconds....! It's actually the other way around. White tries to fake human behaviour, but he fails.

  • @chi111y
    @chi111y6 жыл бұрын

    I find playing on a pc so much easier than mobile because of the analysis arrows!

  • @Robertl-xz6yl

    @Robertl-xz6yl

    5 жыл бұрын

    1.3B • Views how do you use them ? Fairly new to online chess 😁

  • @petergriffin8767

    @petergriffin8767

    5 жыл бұрын

    Robert L right click + drag

  • @aspiknf

    @aspiknf

    4 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @Wilker_uwu

    @Wilker_uwu

    3 жыл бұрын

    the real question is hpw to clear all from screen ;-; for me it's too inconvenient when there is nothing documented yet on the shortcuts for drawing :(

  • @TSH425

    @TSH425

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Wilker_uwu left click on a peice

  • @kenhaley4
    @kenhaley44 жыл бұрын

    "If you feel nervous, just don't be nervous."

  • @SuperSapila
    @SuperSapila5 жыл бұрын

    the rook and then knight sacrifice look more suspicious than the queen sac

  • @ryanatella5193
    @ryanatella51934 жыл бұрын

    “Yeah let’s stop talking now.. 1 second later, yeah c3 is a move!”

  • @monkkenyon2539
    @monkkenyon25394 жыл бұрын

    Everyone should give this man a hand for fighting Alpha zero and doing a pretty good job.

  • @davideddleman4530
    @davideddleman45305 жыл бұрын

    just curious instead of moving your queen to b2 to be safe when knight attacked did you consider going queen takes pawn oon f3 safe move for queen stops knight from checking and then move rook to d file to pressure pawn

  • @truthhurts4948

    @truthhurts4948

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw that, just commented same. I wondered why he didn't take either pawn "hanging". The one I would have taken was that one, and that would have defended how he lost this game. However, since the opponent was cheating, he probably would have found another way to "win".

  • @marine5546
    @marine55463 жыл бұрын

    "If you're feeling nervous, just don't be nervous" -Some very wise man, somewhere

  • @ace942
    @ace9423 жыл бұрын

    That queen sacrifice was crazy. I don't think I would have ever found that move regardless of how much time given. I saw the point after the move but too bad that it was a computer move. If a human had played it, I would wonder if Tal was reborn.

  • @majermike
    @majermike6 жыл бұрын

    Surprising not to hear a word on move 9, cxd4, the move from which it all goes downhill. It turns out the pawn is not defendable. Trying to defend it only prevents you from castling, connecting rooks, and developing the bishop. After move 9, cxd4, you don't have a single move to breathe.

  • @Petertuske

    @Petertuske

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Elementary Watson Doesn't matter who you're playing against, if your pieces are uncoordinated on the back rank and your greedy queen is soloing like a headless chicken in the enemy camp.

  • @YouGotTheFlue

    @YouGotTheFlue

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Elementary Watson Peter is right, you are wrong. Suck it up.

  • @danyllomaia5220
    @danyllomaia52202 жыл бұрын

    Came here for levy’s new video

  • @mattbell5602
    @mattbell56025 жыл бұрын

    I think you just had to click stock fish on

  • @leomeyer3852
    @leomeyer38525 жыл бұрын

    It’s funny to see that the complete comment section turns into super GM‘s. „It’s not that hard to find. The position screams for Ng5 and Qd5 is the natural continuation move!“ Yeah sure guys. Go back to your boring 1500-1800 Elo games and stop spitting so big words. There is an IM that wasn’t able to find it. 2400 rated. He didn’t see it. So nope you wouldn’t have seen it ether!

  • @psd993

    @psd993

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's not even the dunning kruger effect. The title says ridiculous queen sac and so everyone's looking for it and they find it. And think they could've done it without the hint either. Also, like half the puzzles on internet involve queen sac followed by forced checkmate type of solutions.

  • @cyreekcyreek2329

    @cyreekcyreek2329

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yikes...

  • @totalhysteria

    @totalhysteria

    5 жыл бұрын

    Okay, I am around 1800 ELO and I didn't spot it, I admit. Despite the hint and solving tactics for years. I though he was going to leave the queen hanging on c4 and do some other shit.. I definately saw Ng5+ (seen the pattern before) so that's not super high level, but the Qd5 move was a blindspot. To zic-zac it to c6 via d5 and then to checkmate on e8. Kind of clever eh?

  • @michaelbrent6099

    @michaelbrent6099

    5 жыл бұрын

    hey now. I'm 1258 i'll have you know

  • @tomyao7884

    @tomyao7884

    5 жыл бұрын

    ey man, how do you im 1500-1800? I could be 800 for all you know.

  • @ImAllInNow
    @ImAllInNow5 жыл бұрын

    7:58 any merit to Bc5 instead to threaten the discovery?

  • @andredobbs5390
    @andredobbs53904 жыл бұрын

    Hey Eric I love your content! I think I got the perfect merch suggestion for you....put the words "Queen d5!!" on the front (But use an actual picture of a queen with the move d5!!) and on the back have the words, "Oh my gosh!! Are you serious?" or "if this works, this guy is a genius!" Or "That's ridiculous!"

  • @PifflePrattle
    @PifflePrattle5 жыл бұрын

    You can't help but smile yourself at those shots of Fabiano grinning. Be good if he's smiling like that in November after the match.

  • @IceyDefeat
    @IceyDefeat4 жыл бұрын

    What's crazy about this position is once you're looking for a queen sacrifice the entire game, I feel it's a fairly obvious queen sac, but I'd never find that move without knowing in advance ever in my life

  • @jaideepshekhar4621

    @jaideepshekhar4621

    Жыл бұрын

    That's called confirmation bias. They have no clue, but when a person plays a ridiculous move, they say it's obvious. It's why cheaters are given benefit of doubt.

  • @TheDortam888
    @TheDortam8886 жыл бұрын

    More than the queen sac i liked the coordination of his pieces. After sac the exchange your pieces looks kinda ridiculous your rooks were never active and so does the c8 bishop so you had to find cheapos with your queen (Basic chess rules don't move the same piece too many times). And then when you made the position more unbalanced with b5 (amazing move) he just keeps everything coordinate in this very extraordinary way. Not sure about what computer says but does Ng5 Qd5 are the only advantage moves? i tried to find ideas like you and it seems like you manage to organize your pieces if not for that bizarre sequence, and then you're just up an exchange. I will definitely show this game to my students if you won't mind.

  • @Wtahc

    @Wtahc

    6 жыл бұрын

    דור טמבור some info on the lessons you offer please?

  • @weliveinsideadream8548

    @weliveinsideadream8548

    5 жыл бұрын

    и

  • @joannewilson6577

    @joannewilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    A computer see many moves ahead on each move......my 22 years old computer saw both moves in 2 min at level 6 but not at level 5....at level 6 he think 8 to 10 half moves ahead all the time...at level 5 he see mates in 8 half moves ahead...he has 8 level plus an infinite level..... And he feel no pressure and no distraction....;) he is only 1900 ELO at level 7.

  • @kevinkelly3094
    @kevinkelly30945 жыл бұрын

    I found Ng5, but only because I had been looking at Qf4 when you were considering where to escape to with your queen before you went Qb2. Even then I only stumbled onto it as a way to unleash the rook onto the queen, but then the queen would just take the knight and escape to safety, or trade with the other queen if the knight had instead moved to e5. But I also wasn't in the stress of the moment too. I always get blinders during the game.

  • @wasp7969
    @wasp79692 жыл бұрын

    eric: i like the fact that he’s thinking stockfish: yeah lemme get to the depth 30

  • @mrcelada
    @mrcelada5 жыл бұрын

    First suspecting thing is the rook exchange... This is a good computer move.

  • @bct2000a

    @bct2000a

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that is very un-human to just let a rook go hanging to a bishop like that. Very few humans below GM level would just let that rook go like that when there is no immediate threat. That was a very deep sacrifice.

  • @turkiyett0928

    @turkiyett0928

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bct2000a no only weak computers don't give exchange but if you look his preivous games he is cheating

  • @NSAKEY
    @NSAKEY4 жыл бұрын

    The individual moves near the end were definitely possible to spot as a human, even for lower-rated players. However, it is the sequence of moves that led to that perfect positioning that are immediately suspicious. When you analyze engine-played games as a whole, you can start to see the patterns and perfect chain of moves that should be impossible for most humans to calculate in such a short amount of time. Those oddball moves that do not make sense until way later in the game are dead giveaways.

  • @micheltoutoungy6600
    @micheltoutoungy66004 жыл бұрын

    When do you stream on twitch? Would love to watch live

  • @TheBlancoThor
    @TheBlancoThor5 жыл бұрын

    Where do you brodcast your livestreams and do you have a schedule

  • @bigpapa1954
    @bigpapa19545 жыл бұрын

    it´s strange how obvious it seems to play that AFTER you saw it. it´s so obscure.

  • @joannewilson6577

    @joannewilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    it's level 1800 elo tactic....and it take 2 or 3 min to find-he didn't because he was under pressure...

  • @ostiedestrie2155
    @ostiedestrie21553 жыл бұрын

    You'd think a cheater would look at Qd5, and say "Hmmm....that move looks really sus. I shouldn't play that or they'll know I'm cheating." But instead the guy blitzes it out in two seconds.

  • @randombanana640

    @randombanana640

    3 жыл бұрын

    if he took 10 seconds its not that suspicious . because its kinda obvious for decent players , but he blitzes it in 2 seconds which is an idiot thing to do

  • @Leipaa

    @Leipaa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well he spent several minutes on Ng5+ so a strong player would have calculated the follow up after Kg8.

  • @csarmii

    @csarmii

    Жыл бұрын

    @@randombanana640 yep, the reason Ng5+ works is that there's Qd5 there too so you would make the Qd5 move instantly

  • @Hobbyist387
    @Hobbyist3876 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if I'm missing something, but at 11:08 isn't Qa5 very strong? Seems to open up a lot more opportunity for black

  • @violetemmott982
    @violetemmott9825 жыл бұрын

    19:09 b5 results in knight takes on b5 pawn takes on b5 and queen takes on b5 with a double attack on the now pinned knight on c6

  • @waszkreslem9306
    @waszkreslem93066 жыл бұрын

    he is Mikhail Tal himself

  • @black_squall

    @black_squall

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or perhaps Tal Baron? ;)

  • @waszkreslem9306

    @waszkreslem9306

    6 жыл бұрын

    jqbtube you are actually right

  • @UndesirableUK

    @UndesirableUK

    5 жыл бұрын

    A... Stockfish?

  • @yanisokamisensei327

    @yanisokamisensei327

    5 жыл бұрын

    +jqbtube Tal would crush you into ashes

  • @12jswilson

    @12jswilson

    5 жыл бұрын

    @jqbtube true, but try finding the refutation over the board in any time constraint.

  • @voltronsupremeFood
    @voltronsupremeFood4 жыл бұрын

    I played someone he was playing bad at first, dropped a queen and a rook, then after about a two minute pause started playing real fast and beat me. I reported it, a month later got my points back, they caught the guy cheating.

  • @shumymikaball
    @shumymikaball4 жыл бұрын

    I actually saw that knight move with the discovered rook attack, but I would never find such an insane queen move!

  • @arsenalfanrichi
    @arsenalfanrichi6 жыл бұрын

    I find it impressive that you are so upbeat despite losing a game like that.

  • @gedgar2000

    @gedgar2000

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's such a class act. I'm impressed.

  • @ashwin3233
    @ashwin32335 жыл бұрын

    You played osm, i can't see you sad, u r my fav player

  • @Proflaxis
    @Proflaxis6 жыл бұрын

    Your voice is so calming. Your videos will definitely be added to my lullaby collection which also houses Jerry Chessnetwork. Btw, due to cheating concerns, if we can’t hear your ideas then some purpose of these videos is rendered moot. What to do?

  • @delboy9234
    @delboy92343 жыл бұрын

    I like the way SupremeMonk pretended to have a long think before playing Ng5.

  • @davids.2019
    @davids.20194 жыл бұрын

    Hey eric you are playing chess so calm. Just relax and chill i like it! 👍

  • @niqwalshensemble9164
    @niqwalshensemble91645 жыл бұрын

    The risk of not castling....

  • @moonmoon-oc2jx
    @moonmoon-oc2jx5 жыл бұрын

    suprememonk? supreme PUNK! gets the dunk on his head with the ban xD

  • @whuwhaaa2
    @whuwhaaa25 жыл бұрын

    What happens on turn 20 if you play queen F4 instead?

  • @maximumvalues
    @maximumvalues4 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I was wondering was why you did not move your rook out when you had your King off the bottom file. However, I'm guessing the computer would then come up with another crazy move. Fun video!

  • @solfeinberg437
    @solfeinberg4375 жыл бұрын

    Not sure how it could've been done, but it's super painful to see the light squared bishop and both rooks on their original squares. You're basically playing with the queen and c6 knight (which has no moves). The moral for me is: concentrate on the development race. That queen sac c4 to d5. She didn't have any un-attacked squares to move to, did she?

  • @willy92wins
    @willy92wins5 жыл бұрын

    24:09 why QB2 and not QxA2?

  • @j.h.4411

    @j.h.4411

    5 жыл бұрын

    Prevents the knight from moving to d4, keeping him up in the exchange. Arguably worth more than the pawn.

  • @nathanfong3751
    @nathanfong37516 жыл бұрын

    The emote ideas were great too! We also need some sort of flag emote

  • @user-xc7sb6tm1f
    @user-xc7sb6tm1f5 жыл бұрын

    Would bishop to d7 allow pawn to b5 at 21:43? I just want to see if that would work.

  • @Mirrodin82
    @Mirrodin825 жыл бұрын

    That moment when he gave rook for a bishop was also very puzzling and weird imo

  • @ContriveAI

    @ContriveAI

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea. Humans never do exchange sacs!

  • @majorcatastrophe2829

    @majorcatastrophe2829

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not weird really. The focus was on attacking the weak king...pieces don't matter when you have checkmate!

  • @oxey_

    @oxey_

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@majorcatastrophe2829 Still, aquiring the guts to sac the exchange like that isn't particulaty human. Perhaps in a classical game players the likes of Carlsen would be able to calculate all of it but mate wasn't at all clear at that point

  • @koustavchatterjee8645

    @koustavchatterjee8645

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@oxey_ It was not really about mate, it was about not letting Black castle.

  • @meathead919
    @meathead9194 жыл бұрын

    Really nice game though, cheater or not it gave us an amazing game to watch.

  • @MyInLawKent
    @MyInLawKent4 жыл бұрын

    @22:00 would there have been any advantage to playing pawn to G5?

  • @704studio
    @704studio3 жыл бұрын

    SupremeMonk, remember the sage words of Grasshopper - "A worker is known by his tools…. a shovel for a man who digs…. an axe for a woodsman..... Stockfish for a patzer" - Caine

  • @chrisnenshati7400
    @chrisnenshati74005 жыл бұрын

    That's why I play speed chess. No cheating

  • @passableespresso5068

    @passableespresso5068

    4 жыл бұрын

    @NR72X not really, there are few cheaters

  • @chessbot7316

    @chessbot7316

    4 жыл бұрын

    just google "chess bot"

  • @badjoke1232
    @badjoke12323 жыл бұрын

    Guys pls stop posting comments roasting SupermemeMonk I cant like them all.

  • @leftenanalim
    @leftenanalim4 жыл бұрын

    What made this so spooky is how the variation is named after Nezthmedinov

  • @dragonoid296
    @dragonoid296 Жыл бұрын

    here from the wired video. will never forget this position lol

  • @MrSupernova111

    @MrSupernova111

    Жыл бұрын

    Same! I recognized the game instantly!

  • @J4ve

    @J4ve

    10 ай бұрын

    Same

  • @mementomori5505
    @mementomori55056 жыл бұрын

    Is this the next instalment of Stockfish is good at chess? Always a fan favourite

  • @jasonsmith4114
    @jasonsmith41145 жыл бұрын

    Any decent chess player sees that this whole plan from the exchange sac to this deadly attack played so quickly feels completely inhuman. This is pretty ironic: by claiming that Qd5 was obvious or that black played badly you're actually showing your misunderstanding of chess, not how smart you are.

  • @rackjussian3898

    @rackjussian3898

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jason Smith fuck off commie

  • @jhonniboii5884

    @jhonniboii5884

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rack Jussian no but I also would have played QD5, it was a perfect set up. I would have done that with some serious thought tho, not instantaneous.

  • @annereilley4892
    @annereilley48923 жыл бұрын

    This video confirms the importance of castling.

  • @joshuahudson2170
    @joshuahudson21704 жыл бұрын

    13:10 here I'm left questioning. Yeah the artificial castle is a plan but I do not like the look of that hanging diagonal with the bishop on it. At this stage QB2 or BQ2 looks ridiculously better. But castling queenside is going to be a pin disaster. King's probably gonna be stuck in the center, but you can trade down the pieces and eventually activate your rooks.

  • @ahmad5640
    @ahmad56404 жыл бұрын

    37:36 finally makes the move

  • @Goriaas
    @Goriaas6 жыл бұрын

    why do you classify this as a queen sac even though it's clearly mate in 2 if you take?

  • @eric-rosen

    @eric-rosen

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that a queen sac for mate is still a queen sac

  • @Goriaas

    @Goriaas

    6 жыл бұрын

    ok thanks I'm not an expert

  • @yanceyward3689
    @yanceyward36894 жыл бұрын

    I realize this is over a year late- just saw the video today. I am woodpusher for the most part, but I did find Ng5+ and Qd5 offering the queen sac. Of course, I was looking for a chance to sacrifice white's queen the entire game, so probably not hard to find for this reason. However, I will assume that LiChess did a statistical analysis of the entire game and compared it to common engines- otherwise there would be no excuse for banning someone.

  • @truthhurts4948
    @truthhurts49483 жыл бұрын

    I wonder why at 22:35 he did not take either pawn, the knight blocked the rook, so he could have taken the pawn on f4 and then the only "discovered" checks if the knight moved (exposing the rook to his queen) the queen could have just taken the knight.

  • @georgejenkinson8927
    @georgejenkinson89275 жыл бұрын

    100% he was using an engine

  • @MrEmanuel1223
    @MrEmanuel12235 жыл бұрын

    278 thumbs down ?! tell me ai s dont have feelings

  • @aiheitzisteblet8348
    @aiheitzisteblet83484 жыл бұрын

    23:45 was a Q-f4 a better one? Win a pawn, retreat with queen?

  • @briggskeith5

    @briggskeith5

    4 жыл бұрын

    Queen x f4 losses to knight check (rook attacking the queen with check)

  • @lukasnesticky5115
    @lukasnesticky51155 жыл бұрын

    Have u considered taking in the end game the knight g5

  • @peter_castle
    @peter_castle6 жыл бұрын

    wow eric got resilience and nerve

  • @leomeyer3852

    @leomeyer3852

    5 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is playing shit against engines, that noting new.

  • @volencho5487
    @volencho54876 жыл бұрын

    Shame on you, cheaters.

  • @reformierende_person

    @reformierende_person

    5 жыл бұрын

    ahhh man ur hitting me! ouchhh!!

  • @crazypomp927
    @crazypomp9274 жыл бұрын

    Ng5+ I spotted almost immediately after Qb2, and I intuitively could tell it was white's best move, but I definitely couldn't tell that it was winning and didn't see that Qd5 follow-up.

  • @joannewilson6577

    @joannewilson6577

    4 жыл бұрын

    Both were easy to see by a 2000 elo player....

  • @zach358
    @zach3585 жыл бұрын

    instead of Qd2, what if you played Qf4, taking his pawn and preventing the knight from checking you?

  • @ikchess

    @ikchess

    2 жыл бұрын

    loses the queen to Bg6+ instead (hxg6--Qxf4)

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