Great comparison and I love your approach and thoughts on this. Very helpful.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

great video, I really appreciate this especially as a long time rodinal user. I'm probably sticking to rodinal and agree with all of your points in favor of rodinal for both the prints and the scans.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Ryan!

great video! My personal preferences goes to Rodinal/R09. I had hc110 but I always got back to Rodinal. Used from 1+25 to 1+100 it has always amazed me. And it last ages once opened if stored at ambient temperature and in darkness

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks, It is really great stuff and do not see anything not to like about it.

This was awesome, thanks for putting this video together. I'm definitley going to start paying more attention to what developer(s) my lab uses. Is it just my screen or does the HC110 have more contrast, or at least brighter whites?

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Yes, the hc110 was developed with a bit more contrast. I tried matching the prints but still could have added more contrast to the Rodinal neg in printing. Rodinal does have a straighter curve though and HC110 has more upswept curve that separates the highlights a little more with less shadow separation

Gracias por compartir este comparativo, yo use mucho el HC-110 me acabe dos botellas enteras revelando, ahora como ya no lo encuentro en mi pais empece a desarrollar con el Rodinal, y me va bastante bien también.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

6 ай бұрын

Great to hear, I really do not think you can go wrong with either one!

Good comparison. I've ended up using Ilford developers and got great results with HP5+ in DDX and Foma200 n ID11 or Microphen but want to try some other makes

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Heard good things about DDX but have not tried it. ID11 is the standard 👍

love it Thank you For sharing

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

5 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

Great video. I develop HP5+ in DD-X when pushing to 800 or ID-11 for 400. I use Rodinal when I want a more edgy look. I don't print and I scan using Epson V800 and Silverfast. I am now making an effort to unsharp the scanning process as much as possible so the grain is softer rather than looking like sand. On Silverfast I use Less AutoSharpness (-) to have the least digital effect on my images and I store my photos on Mac Photos taking care not to make any Light adjustments in Mac Photos as I feel there is an AI element to Mac Photos which seems to add sharpness with any adjustment made which I want to avoid. Cheers!

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I feel like I often oversharpen my scans but when zoomed out feel they look better online whereas they would be to sharpened for say a print. I think this comes from shooting digital and how sharp everything is now…

These are two top developers I use. Anything 100 speed and below I generally use Rodinal in anything higher I use HC-110.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Seems like a good approach. I think I will be using Rodinal more. Just did some 4x5 FP4 in it and the negs look quite nice!

@mjgreeneaudio

6 ай бұрын

I'm curious why you use this approach? What qualities is Rodinal giving you below 100 speed that you love? And what don't you like about 100 speed? Just the grain pattern or is there more going on that bothers you? Thanks in advance.

I've been doing a deep dive into Rodinal recently. I was very surprised in the results of different dilutions! I had been using it 1:50 with OK results, but using FP4 in Rodinal 1:25, box speed, the results were very different than 1:50. Not only was the grain finer, but the whites were whiter and the blacks were blacker. Even more importantly, there was a three dimensional rendering that I was not getting before. This effort is with the intention of easier darkroom printing and this is now my standard against which all other developers will be compared. Also, 1:200 stand for 3 to 4 hours completely leveled out any differences in exposure. I did a FP4 sample exposed at ISO 60, 125, and 250 and each frame was very consistent to the other.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I have heard different dilutions change the curve with Ordinal.. will have to mess around some more. definitely like the stuff!

It is really a matter of taste. For black and white, those two are the developers I use almost exclusively. I don't want to mix powders, because I print mostly color (RA-4), and do black and white work just occasionally. I think that HC-110 os the one I use most often, but I do use Rodinal when I want the look this classic developer produces. I am not afraid of grain in general. My absolute favorite b&w film is Ilford's FP-4. HP-5 is OK, but i prefer FP-4 because of its slightly higher contrast. It is not grainy, but as a classic film, it is still visible.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

Ай бұрын

I also love the economy and convenience of the liquid concentrates and the results are wonderfull. I have been playing more with Rodinal for slower films like FP4 and have been happy with the results.

Nice one! Just ordered a bulk roll of fomapan 400 and my first bottle of Rodinal (used mostly Ilford ID-11 up to now), so I have a better idea of what I can expect out of the combo. Will probably (have to) push to 800. Any experience doing that in Rodinal (I do love grain, not a fan of blown highlights though...).

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

19 күн бұрын

The Rodinal will give more pronounced grain and appear sharper in my experience. Rodinal does seem to have good properties when wanting to retain highlights. You should be able to use minimal agitation and even stand to get more speed and contrast control out of it, though have limited experience shooting at 800, do not see why you could not. I've been using rodinal more for my slow films... particularly Fomapan 100 and FP4 are really nice. Still in the Hc110 camp and would lean toward the ID 11 for Fomapan 400 but for some things the extra crispness is nice. Really do not think you can go wrong with any of them.

@filibertkraxner305

19 күн бұрын

@@DistinctionPhotoLLC Thanks for your response! I think I'll push one roll in Rodinal, one in ID-11, and then process the rest based on the results in print. Can't wait 🙂

Thanks!

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Thank you Steve!

Standing development for Rodinal brings highlights down. But, I now prefer HC-110.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

19 күн бұрын

Been using Rodinal more for slower films and quite like the look. But still favor hc110 most of the time.. Both are great!

You can use both developers at the same time.Try very a diluted HC100 solution and then add 6ml of rodinal ( for 2 rolls of 35mm) to get sharper imgs

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Sounds interesting. I will have to experiment, thanks!

very interesting love it ...😀

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

if you really want grain, try the ralph gibson method. Expose for the HIGHLIGHTS, in bright sun, and then use rodinal 1:25 and over develop to 11 Minutes, agitate by rolling the cannister on its side every 90 seconds. YES roll the cannister ON THE FLOOR> very dense negatives.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

2 ай бұрын

So overexpose & over develop… That will give you more grain for sure would have to see how much contrast and print ability are left in the highlights, will have to check him out could lead to interesting and very grainy results!

What about the HC110 + Rodinal mix ? ( Figital Revolution )

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Never heard this. Have heard of adding Rodinal to Xtol…. I have to look into this thanks!

@guillermoperezsantos

7 ай бұрын

I´ve used Ilford Ilfotech 1:32 + Rodinal 1:100 or 1:200

Rodinal is going to have a problem pulling full speed, which is why those images had lower density. It's also going to compress more at 1:50. I like it with TMX 100. Not with anything else. Xtol will smoke both.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

4 ай бұрын

I am also a fan of Xtol but really like the convenience of the concentrated solutions. Especially for long term use

im interested to know how you scan your negatives as a guideline

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

6 ай бұрын

My medium format and 35mm I have been using my R5 and macro lens. For 4x5 I use an epson flatbed👍

@chriscard6544

6 ай бұрын

@@DistinctionPhotoLLC I have the epson 850 pro, but I have to add ton of sharpness, I think Im gonna use my GFX and macro for scans. Or it's only because I use a pinhole in 4x5. I've ordered a new large format camera from Stenopeika

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@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

😃

very scientific!

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, as scientific as I like to get!

Try piro-developers (stain) - I am really like how it looks

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

7 ай бұрын

I use Pyrocat HD from time to time and want to give 510 pyro a try just have not 👍

@TaylerAleks

7 ай бұрын

@@DistinctionPhotoLLC I want to try pyrocatehin + CD-2 developer, like Finol by Moersh but mix it by myself Waiting when somebody will go from USA to Argentina and can bring CD-2/CD-3/CD-4 to me

The best grain is no grain.

@DistinctionPhotoLLC

6 ай бұрын

If that is what you like then yes 👍

@nickfanzo

2 ай бұрын

thats subjective, Photographers like Ralph Gibson loved huge grain.