Commodore C116 and drive repair, 240V to 120V conversion

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  • @amerigocosta7452
    @amerigocosta74526 жыл бұрын

    Importing, the usual way: Buy a step down converter, hook your device to a multistandard TV and you're good to go. Importing, The 8-bit Guy way: Swap components, transformes and oscillators from at least three different units from two regions and print some labels. That's why I love this channel :D

  • @MrToradragon

    @MrToradragon

    5 жыл бұрын

    *step-up

  • @orca7134

    @orca7134

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrToradragon depends where you live

  • @theforerunnerreclaimer

    @theforerunnerreclaimer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrToradragon not always. If converting from 220/240 to 120 its a step-down. If you're doing the opposite (120 to 220/240) it's a step-up

  • @horusfalcon

    @horusfalcon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theforerunnerreclaimer EU to US would be stepping 115 vac up to 250 vac to use the original EU power supplies, but that's not how our friend and humble narrator chose to do things. He preferred to convert the equipment to use 115 by installing an appropriate power supply or transformer for US use. That's a better solution long-term, and presents less of a chance for mis-powering and thus causing damage to the equipment. There are switching power supply units available that will fit in a 1541 enclosure with little to no modification. Some of these are even switch-selectable for 115 or 250 volt service. They will cause the drive enclosure to run cooler, be more power-efficient and more versatile. Arctic Retro just did a video which showed one of these units toward its end: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X2Zlua-Ej7udn7Q.html

  • @ComandanteJ
    @ComandanteJ6 жыл бұрын

    Haha, you know your audience, we love watching you fix these old things.

  • @Naitrio

    @Naitrio

    6 жыл бұрын

    Definitely

  • @aiquan89

    @aiquan89

    6 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely yes!

  • @sid-mw7nz

    @sid-mw7nz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah 🙃

  • @Ramielxxx666

    @Ramielxxx666

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @crazyivan030983

    @crazyivan030983

    6 жыл бұрын

    Best part fixing :)

  • @cup_and_cone
    @cup_and_cone6 жыл бұрын

    These repairs/restores are my favorite type of video from you.

  • @tagnarth

    @tagnarth

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @macdaniel6029

    @macdaniel6029

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah, so satisfying :)

  • @albinekb

    @albinekb

    6 жыл бұрын

    I love the internet :) hello from sweden

  • @Miss_Argent

    @Miss_Argent

    6 жыл бұрын

    Speaking as someone who's still a relative beginner at this stuff in spite of having a good few restorations under my belt, Same. It's always great seeing the process in action since written word can leave a lot to be desired.

  • @nouredinebady

    @nouredinebady

    6 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @00Skyfox
    @00Skyfox6 жыл бұрын

    It's always awesome to see Commodore equipment get fixed and come back to life! A quick tip about solder wick: if it doesn't seem to be working, brush some solder flux on it. That'll help draw solder into it.

  • @horusfalcon

    @horusfalcon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Keep solder wick in a cool and dry place, and, if it shows signs of crystallized flux, use a just a bit of extra heat with it. Adding extra flux may work, but keeping the stuff in proper conditions will definitely extend its useful life.

  • @00Skyfox

    @00Skyfox

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@horusfalcon So far any solder wick I've bought was dry copper braid, ie. it had no flux on it. I've always had to add flux myself.

  • @TheGeekPub
    @TheGeekPub6 жыл бұрын

    I was unaware you could convert PAL to NTSC so easily! Cool!

  • @dan_loup

    @dan_loup

    6 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like something that would require you to swap the video chip.

  • @marcelofrau8818

    @marcelofrau8818

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes.. I had something totally different in my mind..

  • @raulrrojas

    @raulrrojas

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheGeekPub when I was younger my job was to repair almost all c64's damaged here in patagonia, in the south of Argentina. About 6 to 8 a day! Some of them were ntsc and I had the oportunity of digging into one, one day, that inside had a little convertion pcb, consisting of a couple of transistors and a coil. I took the schemmatic from it, duplicated it, and I modified to pal-n almost 20 other c64's. Good days in 1993 or so.. only eith this boards, no ic replacrment needed. Not exactly knowing what the board was doing ..

  • @thecaptain2281

    @thecaptain2281

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh, yeah. You can do the same with game systems. As long as the proper parts are available it's an easy soldering job.

  • @losalfajoresok

    @losalfajoresok

    6 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing ads in argentinean magazines to convert NTSC C64 to PAL, fortunately my father bought me a Drean C64C, it was the first time I could play games in color! I'm sure it was amazing for you to convert those computers!

  • @GreenNekoProductions
    @GreenNekoProductions4 жыл бұрын

    1:28 "We don't have 240 volts here in the United States." NEMA 6-20 outlets: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @worker8307

    @worker8307

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also level 2 ev chargers: same here buddy.

  • @Redbikemaster

    @Redbikemaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @DJOLEX 555 k

  • @davidkinkade81

    @davidkinkade81

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well there no wire in your home will have 240v (breaker)

  • @that_green_neko

    @that_green_neko

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidkinkade81 (i'm the same guy) You're wrong. I have two 240 volt outlets in my house; one is for my clothes dryer and the other isn't being used at the moment.

  • @that_green_neko

    @that_green_neko

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ronnie Roo Yeah, we use one for an electric oven too.

  • @eumoria
    @eumoria6 жыл бұрын

    center negative barrel pin, aka the 'f-you' pin

  • @gregclare

    @gregclare

    6 жыл бұрын

    Classic! That had me ROFL! You would be dead right (pun intended)... A centre negative barrel can certainly be the 'f-you' pin, if your device doesn't have a bridge rectifier or reverse polarity protection diode!

  • @Dawwwg

    @Dawwwg

    6 жыл бұрын

    A *FULL* bridge rectifier !

  • @eumoria

    @eumoria

    6 жыл бұрын

    this guy eyebrows

  • @SpeedySPCFan

    @SpeedySPCFan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I can't stand center negative plugs. Roland used them all the time for their 80s/90s music gear, even though everyone else like Yamaha is center positive. Ugh.

  • @Kippykip

    @Kippykip

    6 жыл бұрын

    I killed a Center Positive board for a mini black and white CRT, didn't realise I had a center negative adapter until I started modding the board and realised that's how I killed it.

  • @zakkabuuz
    @zakkabuuz6 жыл бұрын

    Dear David, Thanks for this episode--it is super interesting. You don't have to try to excuse "unplanned episodes"; this stuff is fascinating and many of us really enjoy them. Thanks again for your hard work.

  • @mikekz4489
    @mikekz44896 жыл бұрын

    Modern computers in black are a dime a dozen, but there’s something about these old computers in black that makes them look really cool.

  • @JakeDRavioli
    @JakeDRavioli5 жыл бұрын

    Even though I am 13, I love seeing your content and seeing computers and all from before I was born (Before 2005). I'm like.. The only person I know that likes your content and watches it daily. Stay cool, The 8-Bit Guy! Edit: Now 16, Still watching content from you. I'm also hella surprised that this comment got a decent amount of likes/replies.

  • @ryjelsum

    @ryjelsum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Learning things about retro computers actually helped me a lot when I started to pick up programming languages that are on the more low-level side, like C. It definitely helps to understand the simpler systems, it helps teach you about the newer systems and it gives you an appreciation for what you had to work with in the past.

  • @ryjelsum

    @ryjelsum

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Fernan Schouffoer I was born in 98 and yall make me feel old

  • @DailyCorvid

    @DailyCorvid

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryjelsum I was born the same year as the Commodore 64 - 1982 the best year ever :D Everybody likes to make out we're all separate but the rules changed in 1982, home computing were born! We basically grew up together... So everybody from 1975-2001 can be grouped as the "Web babies" as we all had a totally different upbringing and appreciation of life, compared with pre 1975 people who were on horses carts and dynamo driven FM radios! We are the future people lol.

  • @ryjelsum

    @ryjelsum

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's true enough, especially given how much the internet has helped generational exchange of knowledge. I started my computer tinkering at about 12 or 13, and learned a lot by annoying people twice my age in chatrooms and message boards :)

  • @DailyCorvid

    @DailyCorvid

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryjelsum The next big thing in computers, will be AI operation... If you're smart which you are; you should have a look what companies like Amazon are doing with AI. It's mind blowing when you consider how far we've come since the 1908's when 64k of RAM was considered "Far too much". Haha, oh and 5.25in floppy disks! You ever seen one, it's bigger than your hand :D That was new when I was a babe. Now though what's new is Boston Dynamics robot dog bodies, powered by sensor driven AI modules and controlled 100% by voice and pointing! Amazing stuff you'd be right at home :)

  • @ferguslogan4034
    @ferguslogan40346 жыл бұрын

    Nice work on fixing up the 1551 I sent you. Its a shame it didn't arrive in a better condition, but you've done a great job :)

  • @dirkfeder5195
    @dirkfeder51956 жыл бұрын

    Oh my, that brings back memories, had the Commodore C-116 back in the day in germany when I was a kid. I remember the terrible rubber keyboard, where the keys became more and more unresponsive very well. Back then I could fix the keys temporarily by glueing some aluminium foil to the rubber keyboard mat under each key. But they became loose quickly again, and it was just a mess. In the end my dad bought me a Commodore plus 4, which I was much more happy with !! ;) There was a commodore magazine, where they provided a project to solder your own speech A/D, D/A converter for the expansion port. By connecting a microphone, you could record your own speech digitally, and play it back on the C- 116, I think only with 1 or 2 bit / 4 kHz audio resolution, but back in the day that was an amazing project. Thanks 8- bit guy, for bringing back such memories, and keep doing what you're doing !! ;)

  • @EpicLPer
    @EpicLPer6 жыл бұрын

    That moment when it's a boring and slow day but The 8Bit Guy uploads something, day saved!

  • @viviisthebest

    @viviisthebest

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yay Plus you're first

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    @thegamingkart5031

    6 жыл бұрын

    and full of snow

  • @LaskyLabs

    @LaskyLabs

    6 жыл бұрын

    EpicLPer I know the feeling. I will watch in class if I have to.

  • @samholdsworth3957

    @samholdsworth3957

    6 жыл бұрын

    The music is so uplifting!

  • @rocker1052

    @rocker1052

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's Exactly what i thought myself.

  • @noahk113
    @noahk1136 жыл бұрын

    Your intro song always makes me happy no matter what mood I'm in.

  • @RyanSmith-hi2nv
    @RyanSmith-hi2nv6 жыл бұрын

    I think part of the charm of this channel is that you have a down-to-earth, cool guy who is a total genius and does amazing things.

  • @sega32xxx14

    @sega32xxx14

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Smith He also has an amazing hair style, I'm thinking about replicating it myself rather than letting nature take its course as year after year none ever falls out...

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT6 жыл бұрын

    Just seeing how much circuitry is in the Commodore drives (as well as looking at similar early IBM PC drive controller boards and drive mechanisms,) makes me appreciate Steve Wozniak's engineering even more. It's amazing he was able to implement a floppy controller with so few chips - later reduced to a single chip - where the competitors were using chips that were essentially the *SAME* chip as in the main computer itself. (The use of a 6510 also reminds me of IBM's early "Professional Graphics Card" - a graphics card that was basically another IBM PC spread across _three_ full-length ISA cards, used solely for rendering graphics.)

  • @alan_flynn
    @alan_flynn6 жыл бұрын

    Just watched an Amazon prime series, saw that a new 8Bit guy video is out, stopped the series to watch your video. Your videos are just too interesting, they have to be watched immediately! :-)

  • @frankstrawnation

    @frankstrawnation

    6 жыл бұрын

    The man in the High Castle is a very good series.

  • @scribtoon7146

    @scribtoon7146

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Good Guy me I watch the grand tour

  • @angelperez7891

    @angelperez7891

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have fond memories of these magnificent computers! As badly as it bombed, the C16 was one of the most attractive Commodore computers I have ever seen and I think the vertical-dash rainbow strip between the Commodore brand name and the number 16 are the best packaging graphics I have seen on a computer to date!

  • @DaveMcAnulty
    @DaveMcAnulty6 жыл бұрын

    Next time you don't have a fuse handy, you can use your multimeter in current mode to jump a fuse. It has its own internal fuse. I suggest using the lower range (like 500ma if you have it), the 10A fuses are often HRC and can be expensive to replace! :D

  • @sparkyprojects

    @sparkyprojects

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't suggest that, some meter fuses are special and harder to obtain

  • @WaltonPete

    @WaltonPete

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sparky Projects Yeah AND more expensive!

  • @sparkyprojects

    @sparkyprojects

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not everyone has a fluke, i don't, you also have to get one to replace it. that link shows blank in the buy it now column. Or you can just order a selection of common equipment fuses and keep them in stock. checking amazon, the 440ma ones are $0.70 each, and are HRC. Not only does a meter fuse need to have the right current rating, but also the voltage, my meter can test up to 1000vdc/750vac

  • @Jessterrr

    @Jessterrr

    6 жыл бұрын

    I cringed when he jumpered directly across the fuse connector with no protection. He's lucky it didn't trigger the "flame enable" even though no short was expected. An old school trick we used to use was to put an incandescent bulb in place of the fuse. Incandescent bulbs are nonlinear and work as a current limit in this case. Next, take a heat gun and start heating areas of the board: the lamp will get brighter when the bad spot is located. If you use freeze spray, the light will dim if the cold opens the short. Night light bulbs work quite well for this. Here's a link to an article about using incandescent lamps for troubleshooting: www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1331961

  • @noelj62

    @noelj62

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dave McAnulty a better option is to jump it with, say, 0.1ohm 2W resistor and measure the voltage (0.1V range) on its leads. Works up to 4amps.

  • @SuperN1ntendoChalmers
    @SuperN1ntendoChalmers6 жыл бұрын

    It seems that David was a reverse Dr. Frankenstein on this video. He took spare parts from one machine to give life to one. That takes a real man. The 8-Bit Guy is one awesome computer doctor.

  • @KuraIthys

    @KuraIthys

    6 жыл бұрын

    Surely just a transplant surgeon. XD We take the organs from one dead person, and give them to a dozen others that need them. Same principle. The disk drive thing is a perfect example; Fixed 3 drives by taking apart one.

  • @SuperN1ntendoChalmers

    @SuperN1ntendoChalmers

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, and so is stating the obvious, like you are doing.

  • @johanpeturdam

    @johanpeturdam

    6 жыл бұрын

    The needs of the many outweighs the need of the few... or the one. :)

  • @SuperN1ntendoChalmers

    @SuperN1ntendoChalmers

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Johan Petur Spock. :)

  • @newagederpderp

    @newagederpderp

    6 жыл бұрын

    Took spare parts from one machine to give life to -one- three.

  • @Ayavaron
    @Ayavaron6 жыл бұрын

    The way you time the music in the cleaning segments is just the best. You always pick the moment that makes your cleaning seem the most over-the-top awesome and it's funny but it also totally works. It gets me hype as hell every time.

  • @F40PH-2CAT
    @F40PH-2CAT3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure others might have said this, but just about every house in the US has 240 volts. Its just not commonly used for regular everyday needs. The bigger problem is the phase difference.

  • @ScottLeeOfficialWebsite
    @ScottLeeOfficialWebsite6 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the amiga episodes David. I use to be in the amiga demoscene and have a lot of great memories of both my commodore 64 and amiga 500 / 3000T! :)

  • @NVUSAttitude
    @NVUSAttitude2 жыл бұрын

    This is easily the most satisfying video you have, its equivalent to those powerwashing driveway videos. The fact that everything had a place to go and everything in its place, it was really satisfying to see.

  • @drphilxr
    @drphilxr8 ай бұрын

    We waited 5 years for that followup C116 computer episode - but you have so many amazing projects going at once since, it don't matter! looking forward to it one day , maybe by retirement.

  • @scars2k2
    @scars2k26 жыл бұрын

    I really like these videos where you just go straight inside the case and fix things at the component level. *thumbs up*

  • @orwell_fan
    @orwell_fan6 жыл бұрын

    This not planned videos are pretty good actually hahaha. I enjoy seeing them, keep at the good work David!

  • @EscapeMCP
    @EscapeMCP6 жыл бұрын

    Solder wick problem solutions(?): 1. Add new solder to the joint before using the wick - quite often the more the merrier (as it will displace the old stuff) 2. Add flux... I have the stuff in a shoe polish type round tin. I dip the iron into the flux to melt some and then drag the wick through the pool. I don't know if you'd already done this, but you didn't mention anything so I thought I'd add my 3 cents. GL

  • @strells
    @strells6 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I've never even heard of the C16 or 1551 drive! I learn something new with every video! Thanks!

  • @magreger
    @magreger6 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely enjoyed seeing this process. Unscheduled video or not I liked it.

  • @elianicoli6851
    @elianicoli68516 жыл бұрын

    Italy is right here! Cheers, and keep it on, David.

  • @attilamorvai
    @attilamorvai6 жыл бұрын

    I just love everything you do! Always love when you fix something that is broken!! Please never stop uploading!!

  • @CubicleNate
    @CubicleNate6 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I appreciate how you are keeping alive these old pieces of hardware. Videos like this, and I realize this was unscheduled, is my favorite kind of video you do. Well, actually, all of them are my favorite.

  • @electricadventures
    @electricadventures6 жыл бұрын

    Great video, always amazes me how much circuitry there is in Commodore disk drives compared to other systems i.e. pretty much an entire computer board almost as complicated as the system they plug into. They are built like tanks though, and seem to keep working. Also good save on the C116 computer, they are a bit more common over here in Australia (although I still don’t have one), but there is not anywhere as much information on them compared to other Commodore machines so I look forward to your full video on it.

  • @planetcentral8322
    @planetcentral83226 жыл бұрын

    Right before you mentioned the PET I was going to comment "remember you did the keyboard repair on the PET?"

  • @torsteinraaby
    @torsteinraaby6 жыл бұрын

    You and these videos are always so comforting. Especially in the middle of the night when I watched this. Thank you!

  • @Datan0de
    @Datan0de6 жыл бұрын

    Just looking at Commodore hardware makes me happy, and seeing the process of bringing these old drives back to life is strangely heartwarming. It's also useful, as I have a nonfunctional 1541 in storage and now have at last am idea of how to get inside and what I'll find. Can't wait for your next Commodore vid!

  • @carlosbragatto
    @carlosbragatto6 жыл бұрын

    Dude, if you already have a NTSC/60Hz C16, leave the other PAL, and try to get hold of a multistandard TV set, most Philips or Magnavox from the 90s will support just about any sort of Color TV standard. There is next to zero software for these machines in NTSC Land, and you won't run all the cool European Games and especially, Demos !

  • @krisztiannemeth6148

    @krisztiannemeth6148

    6 жыл бұрын

    Although you are right, he's right, too. He wanted an NTSC C116, now he has one. He can watch the demos on the C16 or on a +4...

  • @HA7DN

    @HA7DN

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or install a rom switcher and some circuitry to switch clocks

  • @Woot007

    @Woot007

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Carlos Bragatto I was about to say the same thing but you beat me to it ^^ Pal have all the software and like the C64 alot dosnt work on a Ntsc machine so you repaired it but made it less compatible ^^

  • @Dxceor2486

    @Dxceor2486

    6 жыл бұрын

    The fix didn't made it less compatible, it's the mod he made next that did.

  • @Woot007

    @Woot007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well yes but you know what i meant :)

  • @Kasey1776
    @Kasey17766 жыл бұрын

    A really good video as always.

  • @napomania
    @napomania5 жыл бұрын

    the idea that you kept the transformer in his shield/frame is very smart, bravo !

  • @lauram5905
    @lauram59056 жыл бұрын

    Flow fresh leaded solder into the joint and rub flux on your wick and the joint with a flux pen before you desolder if it's being finnecky. Works like a charm

  • @michalwarmbier4113
    @michalwarmbier41136 жыл бұрын

    Hour voice makes me calm and relaxed

  • @arcticdragon3565
    @arcticdragon35656 жыл бұрын

    7:08 doesn't it feel good when you are working on a project, and it all falls together and you fix more than just one thing!

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion87396 жыл бұрын

    A great video as always. Great to hear that you got those disk drives safe as sound and they were such easy fixer-upers.

  • @starfleet-verdadero9808
    @starfleet-verdadero98084 жыл бұрын

    C16 my first computer. :) Thanks to this computer, I learned to program in addition to the Basic language, the assembly language that came with Basic. It was not the computer in his time to play, but to learn programming and logic. Thanks for posting this video. Greetings from Santiago of Chile !! :)

  • @onedeadsaint
    @onedeadsaint6 жыл бұрын

    thought you were gonna slice your finger at 4:58. scared me there ha ha

  • @VFuzball

    @VFuzball

    6 жыл бұрын

    onedeadsaint I've done that to myself with an Original Xbox. I never knew how sharp those things could be! I had a wicked cut!

  • @beedslolkuntus2070

    @beedslolkuntus2070

    6 жыл бұрын

    VFuzball well too bad I guess

  • @scribtoon7146

    @scribtoon7146

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cio Dokop can’t we all be nice in this comment section. It such a good community and stuff like that is uncalled for.

  • @onedeadsaint

    @onedeadsaint

    6 жыл бұрын

    ScribTOON I agree

  • @onedeadsaint

    @onedeadsaint

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cio Dokop if this was meant as joke I think it fell flat. let's all be good to each other.

  • @clumaster
    @clumaster6 жыл бұрын

    always like these types of videos though it is a bit depressing since i miss all my commodore computers...

  • @fanoftheclassics5720
    @fanoftheclassics57202 жыл бұрын

    The time you take to make these is something I'll always appreciate

  • @NoBodywishes
    @NoBodywishes6 жыл бұрын

    Love your content @The 8-Bit Guy. I love watching you review your collection. I also enjoy collecting vintage products. Thanks for making me smile.

  • @ZILtoid1991
    @ZILtoid19916 жыл бұрын

    The Commodore 264 series (16, 116, Plus/4) got dumped into Eastern Europe, mainly Hungary, where it really hurt the domestic computers, which were really primitive compared to even those.

  • @pkaulf

    @pkaulf

    6 жыл бұрын

    They were also sold very cheaply in the UK to get rid of all the unsold stock. The ZX spectrum remained far more popular though.

  • @Bialy_1

    @Bialy_1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah, computers in Eastern Europe was hurt by Soviet Union as everything from Soviet Union was "superior" and that is why IBM PC won and noone knows about computers like K-202 that was faster and cheaper than IBM PC produced 10 years after him... Inventor was so anoyed with communists and people that they puted in charge of things that he quit the job and started pig farm and when some jurnalist asked him later why he did that his response was that he prefer to work with real pigs... :P

  • @oldreapervegasarchive3940
    @oldreapervegasarchive39406 жыл бұрын

    The Frankenstein monster of disk drives XD Still, excellent work :D

  • @ChoboUnjeon

    @ChoboUnjeon

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's like a salvage car rebuild

  • @adam1984pl

    @adam1984pl

    6 жыл бұрын

    It got size of X-box 360.

  • @ZincSpray

    @ZincSpray

    6 жыл бұрын

    1541-II had external power supply, and it was a lot smaller. And didn't heat up like a toaster! I think everyone that I knew back in the day, had that newer version, or the really slim OC-118N drive.

  • @gilberttheregular8553

    @gilberttheregular8553

    5 жыл бұрын

    #DiskDriveSurgeon btw i can't use hashtag correctly

  • @allluckyseven
    @allluckyseven6 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Dave. Good job on all the repairs, and transplants! I'm looking forward to seeing the keyboard fixes on the 116!

  • @eddiemuller3157
    @eddiemuller31576 жыл бұрын

    For what it's worth, I thoroughly enjoy videos that include getting old tech to work. There's nothing quite like the feeling of a successful POST after trying a completely non-documented fix.

  • @markusTegelane
    @markusTegelane6 жыл бұрын

    Europe want to be your PAL

  • @thelegomaker1016

    @thelegomaker1016

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @luiseduardodejesus3173

    @luiseduardodejesus3173

    5 жыл бұрын

    Haha

  • @sillygoose728

    @sillygoose728

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @rippetoe38

    @rippetoe38

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol.

  • @mi.janLuna

    @mi.janLuna

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @vladmazare1999
    @vladmazare19996 жыл бұрын

    Watching this on a Windows XP. No problem! : )

  • @thereallantesh
    @thereallantesh5 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely loved this video. Using the crappy drive to repair the other 3 was brilliant. This is exactly the kind of content that keeps me coming back to your channel.

  • @MrBad993
    @MrBad9936 жыл бұрын

    If there's one thing that sends shivers down my spine it's little bits of who-knows-what rattling around inside of electronics.

  • @artej11
    @artej116 жыл бұрын

    Just use flux with solder wick and it will work, fluxes are made exactly for working with coroded joints and metals. Except in a case where there is no VIA plating, that's about only scenario I can think solder wick would be useless in.

  • @russdill

    @russdill

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've thrown flux at the screen several times, it never helps. I think he's just trying to demonstrate that there is never one best method, you want to use what works best. I will say that solder wick doesn't cut it when the pin is tied directly to the ground plane (or several) with no thermal. If there's only one such pin, you get lucky and you can push it through like in the video. Otherwise you really need good suction.

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    1551 uses 6510T CPU, but this is not the same 6510 as in C64s. 6510T CPUs has 8 bit "built-in CPU I/O port", while "normal" 6510s has only 6. To have this, some pins of 6510 has to be "re-defined" since these are 40 pin DIP ICs. So 6510T has no RDY and NMI signals compared to 6510. However it has additional two bits I/O, what I've mentioned. Anyway, it's just important to note, that some cannot exchange a 6510T with 6510 (or vice versa) thinking 6510T in 1551 is the same as used in C64s (6510). And yes, newer C64s uses the HMOS version of 6510, namely 8500, but again, that's though compatible with 6510, not with 6510T.

  • @WPguru

    @WPguru

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! You've just out-geeked the 8-Bit-Guy ;-)

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    ;-P It was not my intent though :) But I personally know a case when somebody wanted to put a 6510 from a C64 into an 1551 drive since its 6510T was dead. But that would not work, probably causing even hardware failure of the other circuits of the drive or the 6510 itself, so it can be important to note this.

  • @trashcan4798
    @trashcan47986 жыл бұрын

    Your repair/restore videos are always so satisfying

  • @usagihinorei
    @usagihinorei6 жыл бұрын

    Man, I really do enjoy watching you troubleshoot and repair all this old hardware. I find it fascinating, as just about all of the hardware you work with is about a decade before my time.

  • @themrpoopo
    @themrpoopo6 жыл бұрын

    Ya casi me iba a dormir cuando recibí la notificación del video......imposible irme a la cama antes de verlo!!!! (i was going to sleep when this video pops up.....can't go to bed without seeing it!!!!!!!)

  • @frankstrawnation

    @frankstrawnation

    6 жыл бұрын

    A menos que você esteja na Espanha, ainda está cedo para ir dormir.

  • @quarterofdisorder

    @quarterofdisorder

    6 жыл бұрын

    Daniel López regresar a México

  • @abdyfranco

    @abdyfranco

    6 жыл бұрын

    Comentario salvaje en español aparece :v

  • @themrpoopo

    @themrpoopo

    6 жыл бұрын

    frankstrawnation si...lo veo desde España

  • @andydoane
    @andydoane6 жыл бұрын

    He's gonna take you back to the past... To fix the computers that look like trash...

  • @KanawhaCountyWX

    @KanawhaCountyWX

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Angry Old Computer Nerd.

  • @docsynth4387

    @docsynth4387

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@KanawhaCountyWX Yes but no.

  • @KanawhaCountyWX

    @KanawhaCountyWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @BedrockPlayer123 I'm aware. It was a joke.

  • @DirkEibach
    @DirkEibach6 жыл бұрын

    The C116 was my first computer ever. Learned so much playing around with it. Happy memories.

  • @hitscanningscumbag9161
    @hitscanningscumbag91616 жыл бұрын

    This is why I'm subscribed. This kinda in depth stuff is so cool to watch and learn from.

  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet20266 жыл бұрын

    Mmm.. Döner drive... :)~ You really need to apply fresh solder and then flux to make that wick wick like a champ. Also, you can test for shorts with that Fluke so you don't have to guess if the smoke comes out or not!

  • @davidannett3322

    @davidannett3322

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agreed on the flux! Always use flux!!

  • @SzDavidHUN
    @SzDavidHUN6 жыл бұрын

    From Hungary? Üdv Magyyarországról! - Greetings from Hungary! :D Ummm.. Water heater for sale! Bojler eladó! :D

  • @Dukefazon

    @Dukefazon

    6 жыл бұрын

    I didn't catch the part where he mentioned Hungary. Now I have to watch the whole video again. Here I come! :D Edit: Found it, it's that little Commodore thingy on the right. Now I can't stop watching the rest of the episode.

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    Azt hittem én vagyok itt egyedül Magyarországról. - I thought that I'm the only person here from Hungary 🇭🇺! :)

  • @nullplan01

    @nullplan01

    6 жыл бұрын

    Funny that water heater is "bojler" in Hungarian. Cause that is almost exactly what we call it in German as well.

  • @rugaferenc

    @rugaferenc

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dehogy vagy egyedül. :)

  • @Dukefazon

    @Dukefazon

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jelen :)

  • @mikebyson7662
    @mikebyson76626 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the few KZread channels that I actually learn somewhat useful knowledge about old tech from. Keep up the good work.

  • @channelzero2252
    @channelzero22526 жыл бұрын

    Some of these fixes I see online never cease to amaze me! :) Great job! I'm a firm believer of fixing things where possible, rather than replacing,

  • @skyem5250
    @skyem52506 жыл бұрын

    It looks like there's a bulging electrolytic capacitor on your 1541 logic board. Better fix that.

  • @HappyBeezerStudios

    @HappyBeezerStudios

    6 жыл бұрын

    Better recap completely. if one fails, the next one might be not far away. It's a feel-good thing.

  • @skyem5250

    @skyem5250

    6 жыл бұрын

    HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul That's what I meant, but he might want to keep the old caps for historical reasons and only replace the bad ones. I say this because the European version had Eiko caps made in West Germany (that's how you can tell it's old) and the American version had Nichicon (Japanese) caps, which is another interesting difference.

  • @stevethepocket

    @stevethepocket

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good eye. Surprised it's not already dead if it's bulging.

  • @CC-ke5np

    @CC-ke5np

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is probably dead. But you don't really need all of the "current buffering" capacitors with the old "crude" technology from back then. Might run unstable though. It should be replaced because the other capacitors on the same supply lines are stressed more. Also the dead capacitor might cause a short eventually.

  • @TheLoveMario

    @TheLoveMario

    6 жыл бұрын

    Where exactly? I don't see it in the video

  • @stephenwalters4798
    @stephenwalters47986 жыл бұрын

    As the best Commodore 116 / c16 software is written for PAL and not NTSC it would be pointless to convert them to NTSC as the graphics and colours will be different between the US and European software and it might affect the copy protection as well.

  • @stephenwalters4798

    @stephenwalters4798

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mr T. Guru makes sense. Although the 116 is rarer, I would much rather have a c16 with the better keyboard. Also it is quite easy to upgrade the ram on a c16 to 64k.

  • @3DPDK
    @3DPDK6 жыл бұрын

    I've had a dispenser of solder wick in my tool box for something like 20 years. I never use it. A spring loaded "solder sucker" does the job well. The trick to the wick, however, is to put just a touch of flux on the wick. The minute amount of oxidation on the copper wick prevents the solder from drawing up into the strands and the flux neutralizes the oxides. But I still recommend the solder sucker. It makes a great fidget toy when your hands are idle.

  • @munthon
    @munthon6 жыл бұрын

    I remember from old days - PAL signal on SECAM tv was just in gray scale.

  • @vinesthemonkey
    @vinesthemonkey6 жыл бұрын

    Ugly disk drive was so useful with its organ donations

  • @HelloKittyFanMan.

    @HelloKittyFanMan.

    6 жыл бұрын

    LOL, "organ donations"! :-) Yeah, especially interesting about that is how it can be used to fix up two _different_ models that are still compatible enough in those areas.

  • @stevethepocket

    @stevethepocket

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was half expecting him to dye the underside black and use that to replace the broken underside from the 1551.

  • @ocrap7
    @ocrap75 жыл бұрын

    It bugs me that the back of the disk drive still says 50hz, not 60hz

  • @DodoGTA

    @DodoGTA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @Dukefazon
    @Dukefazon6 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't help but smile all the way. It's a joy watch you handle these electronics. I was really young when we had a Commodore 64. I remember he only had a tape drive initially but later my brother bought a floppy drive (a 1541-II I guess). My neighbour had a weird 1570 with that weird closing mechanism. But looking at these gray boxes fills me with much nostalgia. The shape and the color is just perfect. I'd like to keep more Commodore stuff around but they take up a lot of space so I'll go with the Amiga 500 I cleaned up last year. David, keep em coming!

  • @retrogamereviews7323
    @retrogamereviews73236 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! Fellow Texan here! Keep up the great vintage computer repairs.

  • @tf2engineer106
    @tf2engineer1065 жыл бұрын

    11:00 The label still says 50hz :/

  • @TheRealColBosch
    @TheRealColBosch6 жыл бұрын

    You didn't have a spare .22 LR round to substitute for the fuse? :D (PROTIP: Don't do this. Go watch the Mythbusters try it.)

  • @Dawwwg

    @Dawwwg

    6 жыл бұрын

    That was before...

  • @skinnwalk3r586
    @skinnwalk3r5866 жыл бұрын

    love these repairs you are doing, so relaxing

  • @lucasvaughn629
    @lucasvaughn6295 жыл бұрын

    You’r videos have influenced me into actually caring about computers vintage and modern. Thank you.

  • @JZM006
    @JZM0064 жыл бұрын

    0:24 he’ll slip n slide on this banana peel!

  • @SamLowryDZ-015
    @SamLowryDZ-0156 жыл бұрын

    Why convert PAL to NTSC when than means having inferior picture quality?

  • @danielmantione

    @danielmantione

    6 жыл бұрын

    Picture quality is not the problem, because the higher resolution of PAL is not used by the computer and the phase shifting that NTSC can suffer from does not occur for directly connected equipment. The real problem is, if you use a computer that was mainly sold in PAL countries, there will be very few NTSC compatible software.

  • @SombreroGato
    @SombreroGato5 жыл бұрын

    Great work! i Love seeing how these machines were built and how to fix them!

  • @timmyd24601
    @timmyd246016 жыл бұрын

    Pro tip for using solder wick.... a lot of the time on older electronics the flux acid has gone away from the solder joints, so I have found that solder wick works a lot better if you actually flow some fresh solder onto the joint you're trying to desolder initially, THEN use the wick to desolder it. Hope this helps someone.

  • @theo6491
    @theo64916 жыл бұрын

    Why such a slow release of new content? Seems like it's down to 2 or 3 per month now...

  • @LivingWithTheGuzmans
    @LivingWithTheGuzmans6 жыл бұрын

    Nice you fixed them

  • @Jessterrr
    @Jessterrr6 жыл бұрын

    Since you don't use a solder sucker or desoldering machine, you may want to try this tip. Some call it the flood and tap method. Flood each of the connections with solder, but dont over do it, and tap the board and the part will usually fall out. Just keep cycling between connections so that all of the connections stay heated. You could use tweezers but usually they are not needed. Of course wear safety glasses when doing this in case of flicking. The solder wick will suck up the new solder easily but more wick will be needed of course. Keep up the good work! I sure miss my old Vic20 but have no space for it, so watching your show is the next best thing.

  • @scyther1141
    @scyther11416 жыл бұрын

    I'm thrilled you made such good use of the donor drive!

  • @reirei_tk
    @reirei_tk6 жыл бұрын

    Kudos to the Obsolete Geek for offering his disk drive.

  • @frankstrawnation

    @frankstrawnation

    6 жыл бұрын

    A noble and quite useful sacrifice. The 8-bit gods are pleased.

  • @sega32xxx14

    @sega32xxx14

    6 жыл бұрын

    robertsd247 Maybe when his current library starts to receive the attention it so justly deserves. His sub and view counts are absolutely insulting for his level of talent and effort in video making.

  • @4516n41
    @4516n416 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes brain and guts swap lets get the Harlem Globetrotters on the case.

  • @kuteninja
    @kuteninja6 жыл бұрын

    I love these repair videos, apart from learning quite a bunch on electronics, I find it very motivating to watch you work

  • @nicolafugazzaro
    @nicolafugazzaro5 жыл бұрын

    I love your jingle ... It's returning me back in the eighties!!!

  • @Skauber
    @Skauber6 жыл бұрын

    The label on the 240V model 1570 drive also says 50Hz, I believe in the US it's 60Hz so should change that as well. It could just say 50/60Hz, as it works on both. :)

  • @srccde

    @srccde

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah he should have but it doesn't really matter for such a floppy drive because the AC is converted to DC anyway and neither the transformer, nor the regulator care about the frequency! Problems arise when a device uses the frequency as e.g. a clock but afaik, most modern electronics don't do this anymore because the frequency is not 100% accurate. However, I guess that he's quite aware of this. No one would just blindly assume that only the voltage matters. Especially if they have his level of experience :)

  • @ivanovicsivanovics7206
    @ivanovicsivanovics72064 жыл бұрын

    "I bought this from Hungary" *Happy Hungarian noises*

  • @BertGrink
    @BertGrink6 жыл бұрын

    Another great restoration video! Good job with the disk drives, David; i really like that you only had to sacrifice one, ugly, drive to restore not one, not two, but three separate drives with the parts from the other drive.

  • @Micropops
    @Micropops6 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are always great. A video about fixing a few floppy drives should be boarding, but you make it fascinating. Keep up the amazing work! I'll be looking forward to you fixing the C116 in a future video.

  • @Davedarko
    @Davedarko6 жыл бұрын

    Who else is dancing (on his chair) to the intro?

  • @davidhunter5802

    @davidhunter5802

    6 жыл бұрын

    davedarko I loved the intro as well haha

  • @NotSoGoodGamer18
    @NotSoGoodGamer186 жыл бұрын

    I’m in school. A new 8 bit guy video comes out. It’s worth risking for a day of detention

  • @teh_supar_hackr

    @teh_supar_hackr

    6 жыл бұрын

    that's what I do, and it is worth it!

  • @fffUUUUUU

    @fffUUUUUU

    6 жыл бұрын

    NotSoGoodGamer18 you'll end up being homeless stoner if you continue to do this. Not a successful dude as David is.

  • @KusanagiMotoko100

    @KusanagiMotoko100

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol I totally get you, I risked going to jail for life but I had to watch those drives fixed.

  • @gtamasterplayer383

    @gtamasterplayer383

    6 жыл бұрын

    Isn't that the truth, Nikola?

  • @KusanagiMotoko100

    @KusanagiMotoko100

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stay right where you are.

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd6 жыл бұрын

    Great work,and i can’t wait for your review of those disk systems and the C16.

  • @bobjerome5390
    @bobjerome53904 жыл бұрын

    hi i did this with some betacam sp video's i waited till i have lot of them in my pad and did what you did move all the parts around good to see more gear saved