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  • @gravetitan1321
    @gravetitan1321 Жыл бұрын

    The Feeling is Mutual.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Get out.

  • @redhunter9669

    @redhunter9669

    Жыл бұрын

    Can’t keep a good titan down

  • @brandonbrooks779

    @brandonbrooks779

    Жыл бұрын

    Sun Titan gang

  • @That1powergamer

    @That1powergamer

    Жыл бұрын

    "grabs popcorn"

  • @clurmpus286

    @clurmpus286

    Жыл бұрын

    I love you, Grave Titan. I do wish you were a zombie though

  • @jessesandburg
    @jessesandburg Жыл бұрын

    The cuts in this video are absolutely legendary. You can just see the passionate rant Cherries is going on half these cards but they dont want the video longer than it needs to be. 10/10

  • @nogard0497

    @nogard0497

    Жыл бұрын

    We need a live stream where each of them rant about cards and stuff that’s too potent for the channel’s videos

  • @Supsup516

    @Supsup516

    Жыл бұрын

    We need the uncut version

  • @Ian_Dierks

    @Ian_Dierks

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed! They should release a separate uncut series with more raw footage. These two are charismatic enough to pull it off.

  • @SoojArt

    @SoojArt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Supsup516 release the cherry cut

  • @antisocialnetworking3856
    @antisocialnetworking3856 Жыл бұрын

    I started typing a defense of explosive vegetation, saying just getting general basics can be better on a strict budget where you can't afford a bunch of pricey fetchable lands, but then I realized even on a budget Skyshroud Claim or something else that specifies land type is still usually better because you can just play cheap stuff like the snow duals from Kaldheim since it would come in tapped anyways 💀

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    #NeverVeggies

  • @gy_player4213

    @gy_player4213

    Жыл бұрын

    New duals from dmc are also fetchable, cycle lands from akh, slow duals from ogw are affordable now, too

  • @ApexZer0
    @ApexZer0 Жыл бұрын

    If I ever go to an event and play with you guys I'm gonna rule zero grave titan as my commander

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll bring my Kenrith's Transformations so I don't have to look at him

  • @kwonsolo
    @kwonsolo Жыл бұрын

    I met this super CUTE GIRL name Lia last week playing commander. She and I started dating. When I found out she has Grave Titan in her deck and likes that card. I immediately broke up with her. Thank you Nitpicking Nerds for saving my life from a Grave Titan user.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    I know it was hard, but you'll be better in the long run

  • @energetek661

    @energetek661

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @matthewschwer6048

    @matthewschwer6048

    Жыл бұрын

    You damned fool! Did you even try to convince her to change her wicked ways? It’s one card, surely you could find some piece of cardboard better than Grave Titan, like One With Nothing.

  • @ix8750

    @ix8750

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewschwer6048 He basically casted one with nothing on himself and he had to discard his girlfriend.

  • @m1xxx3r
    @m1xxx3r Жыл бұрын

    Of course You don't hate Grave Titan, You just love making fun of it 😂

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    We love to hate it

  • @m1xxx3r

    @m1xxx3r

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds but it has the potential to has the most ironic alternative usage of all MTG cards, use it as proxy Treasure token 😂

  • @Elentirion
    @Elentirion Жыл бұрын

    I'm going to defend Krosan grip as a way to stop infinite combos. We have a bunch of infinite combos in my playgroup so I feel like krosan grip is kind of a necessity when I'm in green. I will die on this hill.

  • @mibbzx1493

    @mibbzx1493

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @eveninghat8715
    @eveninghat8715 Жыл бұрын

    Calling it now that Humility is on this list

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yes

  • @MrMonrovis

    @MrMonrovis

    Жыл бұрын

    Humility + rune tail kitsune/dolmen gate 🥰

  • @SickOfItAll1988

    @SickOfItAll1988

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy that my playgroup is cool with playing stax and hate. You want to play many colors and the best cards from everyone? Have fun with that greedy manabase and my Back to Basics. You ramp more than everyone else and have a bunch of lands? Let's destroy them all together. I feel like commander is more fun this way. Ramping and drawing cards is inherently strong, same with combos or artifact centric gameplans; so everyone just plays solitaire and try to do their stuff, even if it's just play the biggest baddest creatures and turn them sideways more effectively. Since we all include some broad hate cards, we all run more removal & counters, so we really need to think about sequencing, politics etc. Edit: basically we're forced to run more interaction, but we're able to play with busted commanders without anyone batting an eye. Playing Tergrid or Urza might seem fun but it's probably not going to stick on the board long enough to make an impact

  • @Aniphx

    @Aniphx

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope someone answered the phone.

  • @zackkelley2940

    @zackkelley2940

    Жыл бұрын

    Humility is on EVERYONE'S list... even the ones that play Humility.

  • @sonork
    @sonork Жыл бұрын

    You play single combat over Tragic Arrogance when your deck has lots of support stuff or is a voltron deck. If it has many equips/artifacts or enchantments you're not sacking them all to your own board wipe along with your opponents. So you play single combat to keep all your other stuff.

  • @Bezoldz
    @Bezoldz Жыл бұрын

    Blaming coffers and gary is like blaming all staples tbh

  • @patrickboswell4399

    @patrickboswell4399

    Жыл бұрын

    I blame staples. it makes the game boring to only see the same idk 100 cards in 90% of games. Make EDH the weird jank format again

  • @themorganrobertson

    @themorganrobertson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@patrickboswell4399 yeah but that doesn't add can't happen. You remove those, something else is the next meta.

  • @kylegonewild
    @kylegonewild Жыл бұрын

    I never actually foretell Delayed Blast Fireball, I only ever impulse draw + play it or cascade into it to get its better effect.

  • @charliemarlow647
    @charliemarlow647 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Joe, if you don't like the enchantress archetype because it doesn't have finishing power, you should give Kestia, the Cultivator a go. You can lean into the enchantress draws, but combine that with enchanting creatures to be threats and win through combat. I've been playing it for years and it's a lot of fun imo!

  • @dylaneilertson2335

    @dylaneilertson2335

    Жыл бұрын

    That sounds really interesting! Do you have a list? :)

  • @maxbreslin9253

    @maxbreslin9253

    Жыл бұрын

    I find tuvasa can close games too

  • @charliemarlow647

    @charliemarlow647

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dylaneilertson2335 I replied with my list, but think it may have been removed because it had a link in it. Were you able to see it before then?

  • @charliemarlow647

    @charliemarlow647

    Жыл бұрын

    @@maxbreslin9253 Yeah, Tuvasa is good fun too :) A little too Voltron for what I was after, but can definitely finish people!

  • @fez284

    @fez284

    Жыл бұрын

    They must be playing against pretty bad Enchantress decks. A half decent Enchantress deck has plenty of tutors/draw to get their winning enchantments like Sigil of the Empty Throne, Zendikars Roil, anthems, etc. I’ve seen Enchantress decks absolutely ruin opponents.

  • @MrMatt6362
    @MrMatt6362 Жыл бұрын

    I never thought about the overwhelming mana lands, I'm so accustomed to my playgroup and I running some of them beside our G.Quarters, TecEdges and F.O.Ruins that we're accustomed to it! Will be discussing with the group chat today!

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    If you all like them, definitely keep playing them :D

  • @MrMatt6362

    @MrMatt6362

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds See but we like weirdo sh*t, like Mono Black Gonti Flicker and Repay in Kind groupicide

  • @Seergun

    @Seergun

    Жыл бұрын

    just want to remind you/your group that Field of Ruin lets _everyone_ get a basic, not just the two of you.

  • @TheAngelRaven
    @TheAngelRaven Жыл бұрын

    Grave Titan isn't completely terrible, but if it was at LEAST a Zombie along with Giant, then I'd see value in it. 6 Mana for a 6/6 and 2 2/2s at least isn't bad value, but it isn't great.

  • @crokar5835

    @crokar5835

    Жыл бұрын

    Just attach a helm of the host on it and have fun

  • @brandnamepending4817
    @brandnamepending4817 Жыл бұрын

    What does it say about me that the second I see divine intervention I went "oh that's so dumb, I'm putting it in my stax deck"

  • @boltblackjoker
    @boltblackjoker Жыл бұрын

    Every color can do multiple somethings about kenrith's transformation, imprisoned in the moon, or darksteel mutation. They may require you to play cards that you otherwise wouldn't to hedge your bets outside of aura removal, such as sac outlets, nevdisk, sylex, etc. Aside from that, being too dependent on the commander to have your deck do anything is a problem itself; it may just need some work or there aren't yet enough pieces printed to make it work. This is coming from a player in a very budget meta too, not playing basically any auto-include cards. Speaking of auto-include, sort of expected to see lame standbys like sol ring, dockside extortionist, and cyclonic rift here, but most should know they're rather more boring than hate-fuel.

  • @eveljkov
    @eveljkov Жыл бұрын

    Taking out a player is the best form of removal. I'll archenemy the player that runs Gary. I will always defend KGrip. I've never been sad to pay two extra for Split Second. It doesn't have to stop a combo to make it worth it, being able to destroy something that usually has an activation or trigger without worrying about it happening is gold. It's not even a niche scenario. It stops every-game synergy shenanigans. I'm in Green with KGrip. Two mana ain't no thang.

  • @sinnaro13
    @sinnaro13 Жыл бұрын

    I have played against a Time Sifter. I have a friend that has a chaos deck, and the whole point is to cause chaos and death. I played against it with a Krenko deck once and actually got to take a turn from it. That surprised everyone at the table

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    You are a brave human for playing after it resolved haha

  • @sinnaro13

    @sinnaro13

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds I honestly don't mind it occasionally, especially with my friend who does play it. We go into the game knowing it is a possibility and are ok with it ahead of time, kinda rule zeroing it in for the game.

  • @GrimmTutelage
    @GrimmTutelage Жыл бұрын

    I love the auras that "do nothing" opponents commanders lol theres actually quite a few cards my group plays on this list....oh no. .also i feel ya beezy..i cant ever get my playgroup to do anything about tooth and nail...which follows skyshroud/ramp+...so many losses..

  • @thewhitehotd1172
    @thewhitehotd1172 Жыл бұрын

    With krosan grip...I play in a playground with someone who LOVES countering spells and plays must remove permanent turn after turn...so three split second is worth the extra mana

  • @FrankVrep
    @FrankVrep Жыл бұрын

    I know you guys really don't like sheoldred, the wispering one. But would it be a good pick-up for my glissa the traitor deck? It gets a little more value due to the dying triggers and kinda on point flavour wise. Be happy to hear your thoughts!

  • @astuteanansi4935

    @astuteanansi4935

    Жыл бұрын

    Eh..? She's flavorful for sure. I feel like she's super expensive for little to no reason. And she only works with creatures. Surely for that cost you can find a more efficient way to reanimate artifacts, even in these colors.

  • @TheAmazingSpiderman87
    @TheAmazingSpiderman87 Жыл бұрын

    Grave Titan is like Nickleback, Joe and Beezy can't outright admit it but secretly they love him.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Ehhhh I don’t think so

  • @thegamingnerd274
    @thegamingnerd274 Жыл бұрын

    I played against time sifter recently. The guy who played it missed out on seven turns and then died

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    OOP

  • @randymotter51
    @randymotter51 Жыл бұрын

    Krosan Grip is one of those things that's just play group specific. If your group runs a lot of responsive decks that can often bounce, counter or otherwise protect their things from spot removal you will want cards that just go through and/or provide extra benefits that last. In this case the Grip will do that nicely. As an aside though, I run a Belledros deck that uses the Pest Infestation as a substitute for it because it themes and it scales while having the same minimum cost at 3 mana. If it isn't synergy affecting your choices, it's usually your play group.

  • @Goodthrust69
    @Goodthrust69 Жыл бұрын

    "Murder...it will be fine most of the time."-Joe Cherries. The signs where there all along. RUN BEEZY!

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe they said that

  • @Goodthrust69

    @Goodthrust69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds I just saw the video where Joe updated them's pronouns. So this comment makes sense and isnt as creepy!

  • @adamgarey1318
    @adamgarey1318 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like a lot of people hate enchantress in EDH because it’s so often built as prison/stax/control. I considered that when building my Sythis deck and made it so much more fun. My main theme is auras, pick a target (doesn’t have to be sythis) and make it HUGE. I also run tons of token makers for a backup strat of going wide. Throw in a few hate pieces (deck has ZERO artifacts so stony silence is opop) and some interaction and you’ve got one hell of a party going. If all else fails, I have several recursion cards to bring it all back. Give it a try!

  • @kingofrunescapepking
    @kingofrunescapepking Жыл бұрын

    See, the thing with Cabal Coffers is you can definitely still run a bunch of utility lands alongside of it as long as you're playing Urborg

  • @bronchiel

    @bronchiel

    Жыл бұрын

    cabal coffers + urborg [+ azor's gateway, or any other card that gets you tons of mana] + oona, queen of fae = 1 turn full mill, and you make bastard creatures from milling

  • @ianmcguire3040
    @ianmcguire3040 Жыл бұрын

    Back in 2017 at my LGS, we decided to do a 10-man free-for-all Commander game, and someone brought a chaos deck and played Timesifter… … I was playing Walls Tribal.

  • @shawnt.5065
    @shawnt.5065 Жыл бұрын

    I only use Constant Mist in my Titania, Protector of Argoth deck. I've had the card since the 90's back when I played with Elves deck. Never bought another and had quit playing with it till Titania came along.

  • @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299

    @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL I love that card in my Landfall Korvold since it reads more like ''...Buyback: Sacrifice a land, put a +1+1 counter on Korvold and draw a card'' ;P

  • @poutinemcflurry3544
    @poutinemcflurry3544 Жыл бұрын

    Divine intervention is probably the only card you can put in your commander deck, (besides maybe one with nothing,) that won’t even give you a +0.01 upgrade to your win percentage, (not counting the card that could’ve taken its place). Even playing a vanilla 1/1 slightly increases your win percentage, and this card is literally incapable of doing that, since the most it will ever do is end the game in a draw.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah we have said it is literally one of the worst cards in Commander out of every single legal card, even vanillas and cards that say "drain a player for 2" because it literally cannot help you win the game lol

  • @Shiek200
    @Shiek200 Жыл бұрын

    I ran Food Chain in my first ever Golgari tokens deck because it was way cheaper than Phyrexian Altar at the time (I think it was like 15 dollars vs 30 for altar at the time) and then continued to run it even when I got a phyrexian altar, just for redundancy. The only time it ever combo'd off was with infinite tokens and at that point it was one of any of like... 6 or 7 cards that could win me the game because I had infinite creatures. tl;dr - Food Chain for me was always just a Phyrexian Altar for token decks

  • @ethanschulze557
    @ethanschulze557 Жыл бұрын

    Breezy, would you consider Grave Titan in 6 toughness (anti-delayed-blast-fireball) tribal?

  • @leonfriedemann9151
    @leonfriedemann9151 Жыл бұрын

    Gravetitan is a great card, because I like the artwork 🤔

  • @tildukeball
    @tildukeball Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys. It’s really subtle and hard to explain, but this episode demonstrates to me how far y’all have come with your craft. The way you own your opinion is so improved from the tone of your early work. It’s so impressive seeing y’all make strides in your work. Thanks for what you contribute to the community

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding Serra’s Sanctum, I have less issue with that than Coffers and Cradle, but it requires you to build your deck in a certain way. It makes you play enchantments. Additionally, there are far fewer impactful 1-mana enchantments than impactful 1-mana creatures, and Coffers just requires you to play lands.

  • @nerv007

    @nerv007

    Жыл бұрын

    it's a surprisingly unhelpful land in my shrine commander deck because white is an awful color

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    dang you just attacked white cards lol

  • @nerv007

    @nerv007

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerdsI mean, it's nice to pay for the three monowhite enchantments that require double white, but more than 2 is fairly useless.

  • @jeremymajors8982
    @jeremymajors8982 Жыл бұрын

    "The fact that this card exists just irritates me." LMFAO 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @jeremymajors8982

    @jeremymajors8982

    Жыл бұрын

    What's even more funny is that I play nearly every card they listed in this vid. hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    You are evil and we are not friends lol

  • @Potato69
    @Potato69 Жыл бұрын

    Niv curiosity is a thing in our group, krosan grip is definitely a thing

  • @Jupue

    @Jupue

    Жыл бұрын

    Niv curiosity doesnt get stopped by krosan grip

  • @spic9h592
    @spic9h592 Жыл бұрын

    I run divine intervention and Approach of the Second Sun in group hug decks with otherwise no win conditions as a "Look I gave all of you gad now someone win this game before I end it." But that's more me wanting to see what other people's decks do when running at full throttle and needed a way to end the game if that results in a stalemate.

  • @lisliaer7999
    @lisliaer7999 Жыл бұрын

    Your arguments against constant mist, is the exact reason I splashed red in my token spam deck. For impact Tremors and Purphoros

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah having a way around them always feels good

  • @vivianboor14
    @vivianboor14 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to urborg and cabal coffers I was able to cast Gary, saw Gary in half, then encore Gary from the graveyard so you have a point, but on the other hand, GARY

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    🤮

  • @stfinalwrath
    @stfinalwrath Жыл бұрын

    I use both nature's claim and krosan Grip. And yes, the only reason I still run krosan grip is for the split second, and it's for the case of if I REALLY need to prevent a bunch of triggers from something on the field being put on the stack or if I need to remove something before another spells resolves to keep a combo from happening and losing me the game. I like to save my removal for the last possible second unless it's a serious problem hits the board, and that does open you up to getting hit with something that can counteract a nature's claim. So as someone who runs both of them, I'm basically stating exactly what your saying, that nature's claim is better at 1 mana, it's still an instant, and krosan grip is genuinely a niche spell that is fairly meta dependant on whether or not that split second is relevant.

  • @Tymetracyr
    @Tymetracyr Жыл бұрын

    Before EDH was a thing with my friends I had a Grave Titan deck that ran Mimic Vat. Good times. Good times.

  • @IAMYETTI25
    @IAMYETTI25 Жыл бұрын

    Constant mist is the card that turned me into a combo player.

  • @paulheinrichdietrich9518
    @paulheinrichdietrich9518 Жыл бұрын

    Does Grave Titan hate apply to other formats as well?

  • @simonteesdale9752

    @simonteesdale9752

    Жыл бұрын

    The only other format it sees play in is the occasional legacy deck, where it sees niche play as a card that is *decent* to cheat in, but can occasionally be actually cast via dark ritual/lake of the dead. From what I've seen, it's actually fine in that (very small) niche, as it ends the game fairly quickly, and defends you while doing so. (While dodging most common removal except Swords) However new Sheoldred just does it's job better, being way easier to cast, and only being slightly slower to kill.

  • @korlash8800
    @korlash8800 Жыл бұрын

    I played a game where someone got out a timesifter and it was like watching a game of tennis, it alternated between 2 people. I sat for about 10 minutes watching before I scooped up and went to another table to get into another game

  • @zxxDarkLightxxz
    @zxxDarkLightxxz Жыл бұрын

    Single Combat is pretty good in Voltron I feel because you don't play a lot of creatures so surely it's good to stop opponents from casting creatures for another turn? Enchantresses are strong effects imo. It's the decks own fault if it can't win with a million carddraw and it's "all they're doing". I find it pretty scary to be up against that much carddraw, and you bet I'll put in some big finishers if I'm playing such a deck!

  • @Seergun

    @Seergun

    Жыл бұрын

    I had single combat in my sram deck and it still ended up backfiring half the time. Remember, no creatures can be cast till after _your_ next turn. If your opponents wipe the board, you're not even the first one who can rebuild...

  • @zxxDarkLightxxz

    @zxxDarkLightxxz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Seergun in my Uril deck it works because im using totem armors so a boardwipe wont even kill my commander. But I see your point.

  • @Ian_Dierks
    @Ian_Dierks Жыл бұрын

    Good shit as always guys! My takes: Divine Intervention - Kind of dumb and uninteresting , but if you view it as you losing and them winning, it’s the same as any other non-traditional wincon. The only difference is they WANT to draw. Everyone’s dismay is their victory! Mono Black Shenanigans - Black is gonna do what black is gonna do. I do agree that the ones you mentioned (cabal coffers/gray merchant) are more simple compared to the true potential that black has versatility wise. Explosive Vegetables - 100% agree. Terrible card. Nearly endless better alternatives. Krosan Grip - cool effect, but outclassed by numerous cheaper spells. The only deck that it’s worth playing is something like a cEDH Yeva, Nature’s Herald. First of all, you are playing a more reactive green deck than usual, so you’ll have the extra mana left open on opponent’s turns. Also, green only has so many ways to interact with blue/counterspells, so why not have a spell that shuts down combos without pushback. Grave Titan - Classic. Never makes the cut, but I’ll always kee the first copy I bought because it’s still a cool card imo. Humility - making a comeback in cEDH but pretty miserable. Expropriate - Never understood the hate. I kinda like the fact that it’s a costly spell that sets someone up for a victory, but allows the other 3 players to try and strategize together to limit the impact. It immediately creates an archenemy type scenario that spices things up. Food chain - One of my favorites but I’ll admit it’s an awkward middle ground card. Too powerful for lower powered metas and not efficient enough for cEDH. The cost is also to steep to use strictly for value. Exiling a creature? No sacrifice trigger, no death trigger, no enters graveyard trigger. No thanks. You’re absolutely right, it’s for combo only. Times often - no experience with it personallY but just reading the card leads me to believe that it turns a normal game into a “non-game” of randomness. Can be fun once in a while but gets old after the first time.

  • @zonimi
    @zonimi Жыл бұрын

    I used to have a Timesifter deck (15 years back?) that used Top to manipulate the top of my deck and Kabooms to kill people. This was long before Commander - just MTG Online 4 player games. Other than that some ramp and 8-16 CMC cards (Draco kills). I stopped playing it because it was only fun for one person.

  • @donovangratton5996
    @donovangratton5996 Жыл бұрын

    Friends don't let friends play Grave Titan.

  • @kirova2193
    @kirova2193 Жыл бұрын

    One thing that’s interesting to hear is that a lot of cards they talk about like explosive vegetation. For where I live in the world some cards are priced very differently, and some of the better options are just harder to come by. Explosive vegetation for example is commonly converted a 1$ and a half. And cards like migration path are always out of stock. Which may explain why they’re used way more often just cause it’s more accessible.

  • @McToasti
    @McToasti Жыл бұрын

    Seeing how mad He gets ober divine Intervention, i would call it a win. Not in game, but on a psychological level

  • @pauldyson8098
    @pauldyson8098 Жыл бұрын

    Sythis is easily my fav commander of all time, not close. I've ben durdling with enchantresses since the '90s. I agree that it's a repetitive strategy, though.

  • @Cujucuyo
    @Cujucuyo Жыл бұрын

    Amber needs food EVERYDAY?! Next thing you're going to say is that she needs water everyday too, the audacity!

  • @SunShinyReys
    @SunShinyReys Жыл бұрын

    I put fogs in my combat decks. It feels fair, because I'm in a combat strategy and the fogs help my opponents think I'm open when I'm not actually open.

  • @Daethere
    @Daethere Жыл бұрын

    the Nerds : "gna gna gna cabal coffer, gna gna gna Gary, gna gna gna Nykthos Me : laugh in Mono Black with Yawgmoth, K'rrik and Marrow Gnawer while Tergrid, Gisa and Taborax are waiting for me to finish there decks

  • @spic9h592
    @spic9h592 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite use of Time sifter is to skip as many turns as possible with spells spellshock, Sulfuric Vortex and company.

  • @CmdrUD87

    @CmdrUD87

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't you be also able to do the opposite, where you get all the turns?

  • @LucasSkywalker19
    @LucasSkywalker19 Жыл бұрын

    love the Grumpy Beezy on the video cover hahahaahah ! Awesome video guys, as allways! cheers

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Took me a while to find the right face but it was worth it

  • @drunkgerbil9962
    @drunkgerbil9962 Жыл бұрын

    I started playing a year ago and I don't think Grave Titan or Krosan Grip are good. Maybe it's a legacy of the card kind of thing.

  • @nickhughes8179

    @nickhughes8179

    Жыл бұрын

    Krosan Grip was great when I started commander in 2013. Nature’s claim was printed next year, and Reclaimation Sage came in Origins. Those 2 cards replaced it.

  • @Dark-Pikachu1

    @Dark-Pikachu1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nickhughes8179 but do those save you from Aetherflux Reservoir

  • @ashewall5206
    @ashewall5206 Жыл бұрын

    someone played timesifter against my planeswalkers deck so i had the highest chance of winning it, it hit me, then my next turn i destroyed it and started proliferating counters on magistrates scepter.

  • @Nr4747
    @Nr4747 Жыл бұрын

    Beezy, you know what survives Delayed Blast Fireball and fits perfectly into your 6 toughness-tribal deck ? Grave titan, nough said !

  • @Sweetguy1821
    @Sweetguy1821 Жыл бұрын

    I just like the flavor of grave titan, big dude with zombies spewing out of his guts. What's not to love? Lol

  • @Farfetchd.
    @Farfetchd. Жыл бұрын

    16:02 Tempt with Discovery is probably the best 4 mana ramp spell imo. Even if your opponents play it "correctly" and all decline, you can still get ancient tomb and be in a similar mana situation as if you casted Skyshroud Claim, just minus the color fixing.

  • @gerudo6876
    @gerudo6876 Жыл бұрын

    just now noticed Post Malone is in the Buy Cherries a cedh deck tier

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    hehe

  • @matthewwells5098
    @matthewwells5098 Жыл бұрын

    I have am atraxa enchantress deck, having starfield of nyx, and the new zur out is so fun! Basically a full board of mini atraxas who happen to be enchantments

  • @mathieubakker947
    @mathieubakker947 Жыл бұрын

    If your playgroup plays enough eatherflux reservoir, krosan grip is a wanted card in your hand

  • @nzephier
    @nzephier Жыл бұрын

    What I do and don't like about kenriths transformation is its changing commanders spot removal meta, few decks use instant or sorcery removal in favor of elk-ing things.

  • @felipeguidolin1055
    @felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын

    I just cut Grave Titan from my Teysa deck... Hope you are happy! His brother, Sun Titan, is still going strong

  • @stfinalwrath
    @stfinalwrath Жыл бұрын

    My Sythis plays almost nothing but auras. it's Sythis Voltron, and I either give it protection from creatures or just make it absolutely massive, and give it trample and swing for commander damage. She has literally always one shot players any time she swings. I built it to prove a point, at two mana, it is far too broken to be a legendary creature and should've been non legendary. Same with Sarulf. That deck is brutal.

  • @vincentplag
    @vincentplag Жыл бұрын

    A buddy got me with wing shards once. I was only mad that he got me with wing shards.

  • @Anonymous-jj7rg
    @Anonymous-jj7rg Жыл бұрын

    You guys should do a video based on "Cool win conditions"

  • @FaytVanguard
    @FaytVanguard Жыл бұрын

    Adding Delayed Fireball to my mardu deck, Thanks.... I missed it.

  • @wiggumsanchez7872
    @wiggumsanchez7872 Жыл бұрын

    Kenriths. Song of dryads. Ect ect. They are all good cards. They all die or exile to 1 mana. Biggest mistake in building decks is focusing too much around your commander. Prime example. What if someone song of dryads or banish lights your arcades as a commander? You should have back up cards to attack with defender. Also spot removal. Just sayin

  • @timgil7830
    @timgil7830 Жыл бұрын

    Duly noted. Running single combat I. Light paws. Def upgrade to Tragic arrogance. Thanks

  • @drmatarkin2100
    @drmatarkin2100 Жыл бұрын

    Food chain is great in Enchantment decks with rest in peace or any graveyard replacement. It does not need combos to be able to win. I'd say I play it combo 1 out of 5 decks.

  • @9tailsandstorm
    @9tailsandstorm Жыл бұрын

    Grave Titan in Ghoulcaller Gisa is actually money. I get nothing but value when I cast it. 8 zombies for 6 mana

  • @ix8750
    @ix8750 Жыл бұрын

    Damn bro I feel so called out. I just picked up a Food Chain, Kenrith's Transformation AND Skyshroud Claim for my Aeve the Progenitor Ooze deck..... Lmao at 6 toughness tribal against delayed ass fireball.

  • @leagreenall5972
    @leagreenall5972 Жыл бұрын

    For me, the most hated card in existence for EDH as a non-blue player is 'Cyclonic Rift' ... there is virtually NOTHING you can do against it, there is NOTHING that any other colour can do against it... I detest this card, and one of the reasons I hate blue... As an old legacy player I actually quit MTG totally when 'Force of Will' came into existence - at that time counterspell was THE hated spell type if you weren't blue - then they invented a counter that costs ZERO even before you have a turn and have zero board presence - and legacy - four of them in a 60 card deck!!.... so virtually anything blue I hate and why I loved playeing Iona before it was banned... when I have a red EDH deck; Boil is an auto include.... I'm so salty against blue because they have so many unanswerable cards that your strategy becomes just to kill them before they play the cards...

  • @damonlouis6536
    @damonlouis6536 Жыл бұрын

    in regard to elking commanders, try to not rely on your commander you, only have your self to be annoyed with.

  • @JessBritvec

    @JessBritvec

    Жыл бұрын

    I have to agree. It's great to have a lot of synergy, but you need some redundancy, or you need a lot of ways to protect what is fragile.

  • @gwidao123
    @gwidao123 Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha the henzie thing is so funny to me, I've never played with my henzie and not had the entire table just pile up on me instantly, it's rare that anybody at my local store let's me keep him ever, so I don't really win that many games with him, I still think it's a super fun deck but getting absolutely focused every game can be very frustrating, what's funniest to me is that there are like, only two henzie players in the entire store so it's not like people are losing to it all the time. Oh well hahaha

  • @boltblackjoker

    @boltblackjoker

    Жыл бұрын

    Evidence of how paying attention and perception can mold metas and even influence youtube channels into adding cards like henzie onto a hate list.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    I only hate him because of how other people act in games, if they kill it more I will be fine lol

  • @stfinalwrath
    @stfinalwrath Жыл бұрын

    I've used skyshroud claim since like, theros. It's the best ramp spell in the game outside of nature's lore and three visits within green.

  • @Blu_Moon_Owl
    @Blu_Moon_Owl Жыл бұрын

    May I ask why do you hate Grave Titan? Like genuinely, what makes it bad?

  • @lrunyon60
    @lrunyon60 Жыл бұрын

    Single Combat is actually really good in voltron decks. Tragic Arrogance blows up all your equipments and auras.

  • @BAAWAKnight
    @BAAWAKnight Жыл бұрын

    Humility does have great art, though. The Foglios are amazing.

  • @kennorman1142
    @kennorman1142 Жыл бұрын

    Shocked krosan grip is on here. Idk it has saved me quite a lot in the past. Not necessarily for fighting early game threats but as soon as like mid game hits it's good and late game it's awesome. Literally saved the game last Saturday at my LGS from aetherflux reservoir.

  • @theornerytrilobite

    @theornerytrilobite

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah that one's a pretty bad take. If split second doesn't matter to you, then you aren't in a playgroup that it matters in.

  • @kennorman1142

    @kennorman1142

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theornerytrilobite I mean obviously but conversely that doesn't make it bad either.

  • @theornerytrilobite

    @theornerytrilobite

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kennorman1142 Yeah idk man, I’m just a junkie for split second.

  • @kennorman1142

    @kennorman1142

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theornerytrilobite same same I was just agreeing that it's relevant to things in the group. I was just surprised it wasn't relevant to their group is all. It's saved me from a lot of shenanigans. 😏

  • @dominikstickling8197

    @dominikstickling8197

    Жыл бұрын

    It has also the advantage that you can be more relaxed aboit the usual combo artifacts like Ashnots Altar, even if they are already on the battlefield. This way on other fellow opponents takes care of it for you because as soon as the combo starts it over.

  • @ogdankster2118
    @ogdankster2118 Жыл бұрын

    Can we get just audio versions of your videos in like a podcast format that would be awesome!

  • @butterflyfx57
    @butterflyfx57 Жыл бұрын

    I think Grave Titan might actually be fine in Araumi though. 6 mana to put 10 power into play is whatever. 6 mana to put 24 power into play (42 if you have sundial) is different. But that might be like the only deck where it's okay.

  • @goblinspy
    @goblinspy Жыл бұрын

    As long as I exist in this world Grave Titan will have a home.

  • @lvx720
    @lvx720 Жыл бұрын

    Counter Skyshroud is bolting the bird. Obviously you go for it.

  • @sarahbuck2506
    @sarahbuck2506 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you liked the keychains :)

  • @poutinemcflurry3544
    @poutinemcflurry3544 Жыл бұрын

    I win with henzie so often, and the reason is people end up removing henzie over and over again, and by the end of the game In the same turn I’m casting etali for two avenger of zendikar for two and just winning the game by so much

  • @Dakpo
    @Dakpo Жыл бұрын

    God I love timesifter. It’s the inspiration for my high CMC tribal deck.

  • @futurfry

    @futurfry

    Жыл бұрын

    Dakpo!! A Diddy God in the humble nerds' comments??

  • @Dakpo

    @Dakpo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@futurfry I got into magic because I wanted to host smash tournaments and a shop owner said I could host there but only if I learned how to play haha

  • @maelstromcarl
    @maelstromcarl Жыл бұрын

    Sythis Auras is the fun version of enchantress because stacking up enchantments like All That Glitters and Ancestral Mask to swing in with gigantic creatures. Still repetitive but at least it’s moving the game forward

  • @astuteanansi4935

    @astuteanansi4935

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like Kestia is cooler for the purpose of combat enchantress than Sythis

  • @lukemccrumb270
    @lukemccrumb270 Жыл бұрын

    I'm watching this while sleeving up an Atraxa enchantress deck lmao.

  • @emiliak439
    @emiliak439 Жыл бұрын

    single combat is much better imo. the cannot cast effect ends up being very powerful in decks that don't rely on creature card advantage - ive been using it in zur eternal schemer to great effect when i can keep zur out and create creature advantage post wipe.

  • @IchigoKurosaki011
    @IchigoKurosaki011 Жыл бұрын

    What are the feelings on Shared Fate? :p

  • @Xopher1222
    @Xopher1222 Жыл бұрын

    If your Enchantress deck isn't doing anything then you're building it wrong. With Enchantress you should be doing ALL of the things.

  • @stuartm7009
    @stuartm7009 Жыл бұрын

    sure, 15c for a better ramp spell, now double price cuz im in oz, plus $10 shipping, plus I need one for each green deck, plus you'd want me to do it for other staple cards. I can't get better ramps and kills etc

  • @Daedraheart
    @Daedraheart Жыл бұрын

    I think Kenrith & Co.cards should read "enchant non-commander creature"

  • @adamcappella8088
    @adamcappella8088 Жыл бұрын

    Timesifter, yea.... got a friend who likes chaos. My playgroup loves it too. So whenever I stop it the table turns on me

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel sorry for you lol

  • @adamcappella8088

    @adamcappella8088

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds lol thanks

  • @presidentfrog4683
    @presidentfrog4683 Жыл бұрын

    Play humility in Ghave. I recently discovered Ghave and he’s easily becoming one of my favorite commanders. Love saproling/fungus tribal.

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