Hecatomb seems great in a Beledros witherbloom deck! You make a pest every single upkeep, and can pay 10 life to untap all your lands to ping twice with all of your swamps.

@moedark4390

Жыл бұрын

Thats awesome, i play it in my endrek sahr deck

@Hazaak.

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna say this too!! my witherbloom deck could definetly hecatomb, and combo with the cards from dominaria united that make land dryads. Make a ton kf land tokens, play urborg, then hecatomb. Deal like 20+ damage xdd

@joedominguez8064

Жыл бұрын

I have Hecatomb in my Shirei Shizos Caretaker deck, the sac is upside and can just shoot down everything lol

@Commander_Claw

Жыл бұрын

I found the better commander is Valentin of the Dean. I just made this golgari deck. You make more pests than you think bc it's when your opponents creatures die and Valentin is a 1 drop. I'll be adding hecatomb.great job Demo...love the old cards

@Commander_Claw

Жыл бұрын

@@joedominguez8064 shizo caretaker is throwback. Awesome!

I made a Lethal Vapors / Kardur Doomscourge and I DO activate it haha. The deck is where you skip your own turn 1,000 times and uses "until your next turn" things like kardur. very fun to set the trap and watch them try to get out of it, of course doesn't always win haha!

@Axelovskji

Жыл бұрын

That's hilarious. Do you have a decklist?

@1Fsypro

Жыл бұрын

Couldnt your opponents just also activate Lethal Vapors 1000 times in response to you doing it?

@KryptOKnight184

Жыл бұрын

@@1Fsypro they could but that is what claws of gix is for, you you can activate lethal vapros a bunch and then maintain priority and sacrifice it

@Toowe222

Жыл бұрын

@@KryptOKnight184 Wouldn't the claws of gix sac just go on the stack, giving your opponents priority before it resolves to activate the lethal vapours ability?

@KryptOKnight184

Жыл бұрын

@@Toowe222 well since sacrificing a permanet is a part of the cost for claws of gix, lethal vapros will be gone before the opponent can react. They can react to things that happen on the right side of the " : "

I really enjoy playing Pestilence in my decks. It's always a good way to sneak in some damage and wipe all the little creatures of the board and nobody removes it because it's not a big threat

@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299

Жыл бұрын

I remember back in Urza Saga, WOTC made a precon called The Plague, it had 4 Pestilences in it :P LOL

@kiliangerber4957

Жыл бұрын

Pestilence is pretty awesome with Last Laugh.

@princepersona

Жыл бұрын

There is a cmc 3 pestilence that uses snow lands to pay the black. Really fun. Sadly don't remember the name right now.

@zirilan3398

Жыл бұрын

Also very nice synergy with Circle of Affliction on black. Pest deals damage to you, triggers Circle to drain for 1, so you never lose life to Pestilence

@nathanielnelson5669

Жыл бұрын

​@@princepersona Withering wisps

Dauthi embrace is one of my favorite pet cards. BB: Target creature gains shadow until eot.

@Blacklodge_Willy

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Honestly so underrated!

@DoctorCataclysm

Жыл бұрын

Great card. I have it in my Nine Fingers deck

@NyxTheScary

Жыл бұрын

Shadow is basically just Horsemanship right??

@andrewfornes5320

Жыл бұрын

@@NyxTheScary yes, so for BB the creature is almost unblockable from 99% of the format.

@Blacklodge_Willy

Жыл бұрын

@@DoctorCataclysm I have it in my Volrath the shapestealer deck. Sneaking in some 7 plus damage is nice on a five mana commander

Thank you for the recommandations. Haunting Wind seems like a reeeeealy great fit in my newly created, Tor Wauki the Younger deck.

I have Hecatomb in my Endrek Sahr deck. Sacrificing 4 useles Thrulls is no problem and the ability to ping anything is really effective, especially when sacrifing creatures causing people to lose life, discard cards and sacrifice their own creatures!

Koskun Falls is so good in my Jon Irenicus deck, Jon seldom needs to attack so he's a great little tapper to keep even more hate coming towards you than there already will be anyway XD

demo i would also like to mention the lethal vapors+ teferi's protection combo. cast teferi's protection, then in response, active the last ability of lethal vapors an infinite amount of times, each one in response to the last. unless your opponent has alternate wincons, they draw their whole deck and die.

@Seedmember

Жыл бұрын

The opponent activates the ability of Lethal Vapors infinite+1 times and nothing happens.

@RealTal.

Жыл бұрын

@@Seedmember in response you active door to nothingness

@soleo2783

Жыл бұрын

​@@Seedmember someone else in this comment section mentioned claw of gix to get rid of it

I have a Tymaret, the Murder King steal creature deck and Season of the Witch will fit in very nicely. Now just need to scrounge up $40.

I play lethal vapors all the time to trigger graveyard recursion combos. It's also good to shut a player down for a turn. I'm kind of known in my group for finding and playing weird ass random enchantments no one has ever seen or heard of before that just completely wreck the board. As a result they all have enchantment removal on deck now... I call that success.

Yes! Yawgmoth's Agenda is a lynchpin in my *Ghen, Arcanum Weaver* deck. I already run many self mill and Rule Of Law effects, and Ghen can sacc the thing when it becomes too cumbersome. EDIT: Lethal Vapors too! Ghen can sacrifice the card in response to an opponent trying to activate the self-destruct effect, and their turn is still skipped. Diabolical.

Breeding Pit from Fallen Empires is one of my favorites

Hecatomb with the new Zur giving it deathtouch is pretty spicy

I do have Koskun Falls, Desolation and I knew about Gate to Phyrexia (but 90€ Oo oO). Lethal Vapors is one I didn't knew about. Some clunky cards, but some really good. Honestly as a mono black player, just grab a Sword of Sinew and Steel, it's essential to answer artifacts. Nice video

Hecatomb works well with Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder and Ghouldcaller Ghisa. Easy ways to get the requisite number of sacrificial creatures on board.

Endless Whispers and seems like it might be decent in Jon Irenicus. Yet another way to exchange control of your creatures. Seems good! Never seen it before. Season of the Witch would also work in some kind of goad deck. It actually seems like it would be one of the more powerful cards in the deck if you build it right.

this video has inspired me and i plan to make a deck that includes a majority of thise. really fun and different!

Endless whispers: Have the Leyline that makes you Hexproof and fractured identity it to your opponents. Then board wipe. You’re now the only person that can be chosen to give the creatures too

I made rakdos chaotic enchantments using ur red enchantment video. Time to update it!! Funny cards I used that were black, was endless whisper and a sorcery that basically made two players take eachothers next turn.

One time I lost a game because I cast an extract from darkness with no targets in a graveyard and the only target anyone milled was phage

I'm so happy to see Hecatomb getting some love! One of my favorite cards since 1999

i use hecatomb on my 5 color landtype maters deck. (5 color cause i love last stand) there are so many interesting effects and thanks to green you have a lot of effects that ad basic land/ or all landtype. that theme is completely fine just by being green/black. there are enough landfalls but also alot that say for each forest get token creatures and with black you can double/tripple mana and do the damage/drain/lifelose. also strands of night is a unice black enchantment that works well if you can use lands from graveyard. find a way to sac a creature that let you play additional lands and have at least one swamp doubler and you get endless without doing anything (if you get at least 3 mana from a land you have endless mana^^) red has the fewest effects, so its not needed. white has the most swamp hate cards, but for each player. and blue carddraw is so good, you mostly can ignore the landtype carddraw effects, but i wanna metion there are also cards like realmwright, or stormtide leviathan to add colors and Flooded Shoreline to bounce lands/go endless??? (btw there are more bounce your lands effects so you can technically save lands without needing a grave)

I would also mention: Mortuary which is pretty unique. Works well in Nalia de'Arnise types of decks. Death Pit Offering if you could play before playing creatures or maybe you want to sacrifice them anyway. Spreading Plague + Darkest Hour can be very annoying to play against.

Hecatomb is such a fun card to play around. Seedborn Muse + Urborg + Hecatomb = good time. You can also play Hecatomb as a one-time 'burn spell' by not to sacrificing.

Thank you for unique content. Please keep on adding the estimated secondary market price value around these cards, it was a good way to actually see if they are worth aquiring 😅

Just started the video and already started thinking of some. Necropotence, No Mercy, Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos. I know these are pretty mainstream, but they're all very effective in edh.

In a donate deck, (typically Rakdos Xancha or Blim), there is a great enchantment that is so aggressively bad that it pretty much destroys an opponent. It's called Oath of Lim-Dul and it has a lich effect (you must sacrifice another permanent--including lands--or discard for each 1 life you lose, but you can pay BB to draw a card). Donate this to an opponent who can't generate black, and it's just the worst curse in the game which will gradually force them to sacrifice all of their permanents except the Oath, which can't sacrifice itself. It actually has one of the most dispiriting total locks I have managed on an opponent with Underworld Dreams, as every time the opponent draws, they lose a life and must discard it. You just clear their board and prevent any recovery. The same deck runs other things like Demonic Pact, which similarly disrupt an opponent.

also another card that came to mind when you were taking about hecatomb was the OG Koth of the Hammer, his ultimate does the same thing for mountains

Lethal Vapors works really well with indestructible commanders. Some good fits would Athreos God of Passage, Mogis God of Slaughter, and Zur Eternal Schemer. With Zur, if you're playing enchantments and making them creatures, they get around the etb destruction.

some great finds, that Desolation card is going right into Spirit of Windgrace

@zirilan3398

Жыл бұрын

Can also recommend Destructive Flow

Hecatomb won me alot of games in the 90s Ran it with Sengir Autocrat and Breeding Pit back then. Also had a Lord of the Pit thanks to all the sac fodder

I got a copy of Yawgmoth's Agenda to put in my Yawgmoth themed deck, but I often found that by the time it was useful it was too late to really matter. Great if you already have a Rule of Law effect tho!

Greatest banger channel-intro in exsistence

The way I’m going to get hecatomb with your tcg link rn for my torgaar deck!! It’s .31 for lightly played 😍

Great cards. I have most of the cards in my mono black enchantment deck from which I got an inspiration from Jumbo Commander. It's a grind type of game and make your opponents salty and pissed. Its also a deck that I hardly win so I seldom play. The spells are costly and have no evasion. I have to wipe the board 4 times to win by opponents giving up and calling the day.

I used to use Hecatomb in a green/black deck with Night Soil, essentially making my opponents pay the sacrifice cost.i still use Lethal Vapors in my Sophie's Choice Deck. It's fun to make your opponents choose between 2 bad options.

I can see Hecatomb working well in a Shirei deck. So long as what you sacrifice has power one or less, they would return to the battlefield on the next end step.

@mibbzx1493

Жыл бұрын

Thats actually pretty sweet

That first artifact hate one will fit nicely into my vazi deck.

I run Hecatomb in my Balthor the Defiled deck. It's great. I'm happy to sacrifice creatures that I'm going to mass reanimate over and over

My tymaret deck has a steal sub theme for saccing to get back my commander. Dargo decks will like too. Real sweet card.

I run Gate to Phyrexia in my Yawgmoth deck. It's mostly aristocrats, so the sacrifice is inconsequential and I think it's pretty flavorful for the deck. Desolation I have in my Zur lockdown deck as another way to Stax people out while I kill them with commander damage. Lethal Vapors I have in my Nicol Bolas Superfriends deck because it barely runs any creatures and it pulls a lot of weight to protect my board.

Hecatomb would be amazing in my Moldrotha deck. The amount of search, ramp, board control the deck would make getting both it and Urborg on the field pretty easy.

Yawgmoth’s Agenda was mostly used for playing 2 cards a turn. You would play a card during your turn, then play an instant card from your graveyard during your opponent’s turn, like a counterspell or destruction spell. I’ve never had it out but I’ve seen other people play it.

Another way to abuse lethal vapors: cast teferis protection, activate vapors 1000000 times all while holding priority. Add a grand abolisher effect and it will win you the game unless someone has a shuffle effect to prevent decking themselves, but less experienced players will often forget that they can also just activate it a bunch of times in response to you doing it.

Hecatomb has a pretty solid combo with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Kormus Bell. Sure, board wipes get a bit rough, but that's for everybody. And pinging everybody's else's lands down is pretty effective.

used hecatomb in my horobi deck; was fun turning my swamp pingers into complete creature destruction

I have Lethal Vapors in my Ghen deck, along with Forsaken Wastes (a world enchantment)

One of my favorite black enchantments from back in the day is Last Laugh. 2BB cost. "Whenever a permanent other than Last Laugh is put ibyi the graveyard from play, Last Laugh deals 1 damage to each creature and Player. When no creatures are in play, sacrifice Last Laugh." Put this in an aristocrats deck and watch the fireworks. Oh, but make sure you have an Exquisite Blood like effect to mitigate your own life loss, as Last Laugh hits you too.

@nathanielnelson5669

Жыл бұрын

Or if in white righteous war and sphere of grace. All your white creatures are immune and so are you.

Hecatomb with ob nixilis captive kingpin is great. You could have goblin tokens to sac and it fits the ping playstyle

Gate to phyrexia can be really helpful in mono-black or black primary decks with removal. If you pair it with either liquimetal coating or torque then you can target anything. Which is great considering black is terribly weak for targeted artifact and enchantment removal.

8:45 [Season of the witch] basically attack or lose your creatures. Add [Revenge of ravens] so them attacking causes them to lose life. Now, it's attacking me causes you to lose life while I gain life. However if you don't attack you lose your creatures

Endless whispers has been crazy in my Blim, Comedic Genius😅

Endless whispers and bronze bomb is an infinite damage combo basically.

@clocktowers1

6 ай бұрын

Nice tech!

This video speaks to my soul.

I used to run Phyrexian Reclamation in my Muldrotha deck. Costs a single B to play with, "1B, pay 2 life: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand." I play a lot of kill-on-sight creatures, so it definitely gives me another chance to keep my creatures on the field in a deck where I don't really care if things die.

oooh - I got a deck that Hecatomb would fit right into.....Just got my pile o' cards in one place and am in the winnowing down to 99 phase

10:17 you just feel into the trap of "oops I just made Act of Treason into Murder" aka bad removal

I've used Yawgmoth's Agenda in my Korvold deck for years. I can replay all my sac lands, and recast all the sacced creatures and permanents. And if the very same Yawgmoth's Agenda becomes annoying for what I'm trying to do... I can sac it with Korvold. ;-)

Hecatomb is a HOUSE in my Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker deck. Mono Black and I want creatures going into the graveyard, I get them all back, and they all have ETBs, LTBs and/or Dies triggers, or activate other value engines.

No Mercy getting reprinted in DMR was a boon, cracked one in a pack and instantly threw it in my Syr Konrad deck

I love Hecatomb, play it in several different decks.

Hecatomb seems awesome and if you have a Sengir Autocrat you can get it out with no problem.

I like how half of these are in my Blim, comedic genius deck.

Hecatomv would be AMAZING in a grixis deck with Urborg and a Gherson Starn Kelermorph on the field. Each tap could ping for 3 and do some serious damage

Ooh hecatomb seems like a fun tech in my chainer Dementia Master. Since you know I'm not saccing my own guys and can just resummon them.

dont forget you can play Phyrexian Revoker, naming Lethal Vapors to keep its second ability from being activated.

I'm considering putting hecatomb in my Drivnod deck, it could be absolutely huge there.

Equipping equipment is also an activation ability of an artifact.

There is an entire selection of cards that have combo shutdown potential and should be included as a possible drawn and or tutor I remember just including a ancient runes in a mono red deck and having it strait with. Me a few games the first card feels like it could shut off so man combos

Haunting wind is also pretty killer against equipments as well

I had Desolation in my Obeka deck. Really cool way to control the board, really good way to get focused until you're sitting there playing Arena on your phone, watching everyone else play commander. There's a reason some of these don't see play... As the caster, you won't be playing that game much longer after casting it, you either win for sure or become the main target.

Haunting wind would be a killer card against an urza deck or any deck using improvise or the ixalan enchantment that flips into a tolarian academy

I used to play lethal vapors in fun 60 card deck a long time ago. Just lay down a pithing needed beforehand and it's much harder to deal with.

Endless Whisper is great fun with Bronze Bomshell

Hecatomb and desolation are cards I'm brewing w for a legacy mono black deck, kindle a chainer deck so far.

I actually play Season of the Witch and Endless Whispers in my Phage commander deck, now considering yawgmoth's agenda for that deck

I run Hecatomb in my "Seizan perverter of truth" it's kind of a slow burn group slug deck running cards like hecatomb and last laugh.

Picked up Haunting Wind for $40 because I have a pain deck and treasures are everywhere. Not a week later it jumped up over triple digits

Yawgmoth's Agenda doesn't see play because it has two major downsides for only one minor upside. Being able to play cards from your graveyard is great, but you can only cast one spell per turn from _anywhere,_ and if any card would be put into your graveyard from _anywhere_ it gets exiled instead. Considering exile is the most permanent form of resource loss, the downsides far outweigh the upsides. Endless Whispers seems fun at first glance, but just like all other "chaos" cards it just pointlessly makes the game take longer and greatly increases the logistics and mental upkeep of the game for practically zero gain. Season of the Witch is actually a rules nightmare. It says to destroy anything that _could have_ attacked but didn't, so what happens if someone has Silent Arbiter? Every creature _could_ have attacked before the declare attackers step, but then no longer could have after, so are they all destroyed or not? What about if someone has a Norn's Annex and you only have enough life and/or mana to pay for some of your creatures? Some _could_ have attacked, but not others, but you were in control of which could and couldn't, but they all theoretically could have.

@olafthemoose9413

Жыл бұрын

Yawgmoths Agenda is great if you have a lot of flash, instants and activated abilitys.

@einlan2506

Жыл бұрын

Annex says creatures can't attack you but they can attack others. It's not that complicated

@abzodolba473

Жыл бұрын

Agree with agenda, that's why people play breach or yawgmoth will.

Hecatomb could go into Obeka, sac trigger goes on the stack and then you just end the turn so you dont sacrifice anything

Not sure how often you check older video comments but I think hecatomb works great in my Beledros deck since I can untap my lands and sac my pest tokens

Hectatomb looks interesting for my bladewing deathless tyrant deck. Get my urborg and get to work

Regarding the statement, that the concept of colors hosing other colors was abandoned in MtG: In M20 set, there was a cycle of color hosing cards: Fry(R), Noxious grasp(B), Devout Decree(W), Aether Gust(U), and of course Veil of Summer(G). There was also a cycle of creatures with protection from color. But then again, this was almost 4 years ago and I can't remember a more recent example.

@Belena711

Жыл бұрын

You're right, but those are one-off effects, or very tame compared to what they used to print - e.g. Gloom(B), Omen of Fire(R), Nature's Wrath(G), Chill(U), Light of Day(W)... So even your list represents a big step back. Disclaimer - You're free to use the cards in my list against me... But please don't. 😅

Even better is combining Season of the Witch, Koskun Falls AND Endless Whispers for constant creature confusion and graveyard shenanigans.

Hecatomb in dimir with cards like tales end to counter the ability might work

If you can get Herald of Leshrac with Urborg and Hecatomb you could definitely have some fun.

I'd suggest No Mercy, since WOTC finally reprinted it so it is reasonably priced, to have an effect that states ''Whenever a creature deals damage to you, destroy it''. I use No Mercy in my Group Slug Mogis deck, Rakdos Enchantment/MLD is hilarious no one expects that the finale is mass land destruction followed by a ''cage match'' with Mogis, horrible enchantments and no lands but in true Rakdos fashion sometimes the enchantments kill me instead LOL :P

Desolation is an amazing card in Mazirek (or Korvold)

Does your Iname as One also have “Awaken the Woods”? Because Hecatomb would be crazy after pulling off that combo 🎉

FWIW they released a card for each color in New Capenna that cost less if targeting a certain color. But I haven't seen anything else since. ( Bouncer's Beatdown is one ).

@JakesFavorites

Жыл бұрын

There were some core set color-hate cards that had bonuses if they were stopping a certain color. Autumn's Veil was one of them.

I use Hecatomb with Swngir Autocrat. Seven mana and two cards, all in one round.

Yawgmoth's Agenda is a good card to "gift" an opponent.

Season of the Witch is also a hate bear against decks that cheat things into play on attack like Kaalia

surprised deathgrip didnt wind up in here especially with painter's servant xD

Love these videos, would you do a white enchantments video? Idk how many you would describe as "crazy" or "wild" though

@MM-lv7iy

Жыл бұрын

Most of the good ones tend to be labeled as “mean” and “restricting “.

@LadyTsunade777

Жыл бұрын

Personally I feel like not enough people play Endless Horizons, or at least they play it entirely incorrectly. The point of the card is to ensure you get your land drops for the next few turns, _not_ to exile every land in your library. I only ever put like 5-7 lands under it, _never_ all of them. It's a super innocuous card that nobody will think twice about, because everyone knows the pain of being mana screwed and it doesn't do any more than let you hit your normal land drops, so there's pretty much zero reason for other players to remove it.

@snowsurfer2512

Жыл бұрын

@@LadyTsunade777 I play it in my mono white enchantments deck, super good. A lot of times people playing ramp cards like rampant growth aren't playing a land that turn so it's like they're paying 2 to play a land for turn, endless horizons is great for that, but it won't let you get ahead. Still amazing though

@snowsurfer2512

Жыл бұрын

@@MM-lv7iy got any examples besides rule of law style cards?

@MM-lv7iy

Жыл бұрын

@@snowsurfer2512 Not really, that’s just the feeling I’ve gotten so far from playing for a while.

Karona False Gods favorite card is Endless Whispers lol

Volrath's dungeon actually would work amazingly in an Oskar deck.

omg haunting winds is amazing i wonder if you can build a group hug/punish deck where you give away lots of treasures or other artifacts and punish your opponents for using and having them i feel like jund especially korvold would be the optimal way to try this since you then also have access to viridian revel but i guess korvold will just outshine all these other cool things is there another jund commander that seems like it could work with that?

@casteanpreswyn7528

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, Haunting Winds is way better in Dimir or BU+ because of Mycosynth Latice+blue being able to mass tap things.

@thegammaparadigm4540

Жыл бұрын

Vazi, Keen Negotiator from new cappena is all about giving opponents treasure

Hecatomb was in my Spirit of the Night deck. Sengir Autocrat was the default means by which I'd feed it, but the deck was full of reanimation effects anyway, so I could sacrifice pretty much any of my creatures to Hecatomb.

Haunting Wind also works nicely vs treasures, they tap!