11:18 But I can Dark Ritual into a turn 2 Diabolic Tutor, to guarantee that turn 3 Phyrexian Arena, to increase card velocity to grab an early Grave Titan

@TheSuperReaper

2 жыл бұрын

You truly had me going whole heartedly until the end and I got memed..

@Servbot40

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSuperReaper Lol

@elipetrou9308

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a win to me

The price of Cabal Coffers and the good tutors is one of the reasons I haven’t kept a mono-black deck. It’s like 3 cards for the cost of a Nintendo Switch.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

They are more fun than a Nintendo switch

@mattdeters8306

3 жыл бұрын

Cabal Coffers is a $100 card now, and the sad part is that it's quickly becoming too slow for the format.

@wyrdboy6414

3 жыл бұрын

Print the art then laminate it and if you let people know they don't care.

@seaandstone1

3 жыл бұрын

Proxy it fam. Go to Etsy and find a cool alt art for like $2-4 dollars a card with better art.

@jimsteve5615

2 жыл бұрын

In mono black crypt ghast is better than coffers every time, in my opinion it goes in even up to three color decks just because urborg. You don’t need to sacrifice a Nintendo switch to play optimally

"Nothing synergizes with diabolic tutor!" -K'rrik, who wants tons of black pips in spells: Am I a joke to you?

@alazia8109

3 жыл бұрын

I like beseech the queen in K'rrik!

@thoop6795

2 жыл бұрын

Doomsday withcedh K’rrik would be so good if black had things to stop pact or force

Imma say this again for the people in the back. Magic is a game that lets u express yourself. Play the cards u want to. Just have fun.

Ah grave titan might be here, I play that in all my artifact/enchantment decks, super high synergy. It’s a real finisher almost every game

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

I am surprised he wasn't here

@Greg501-

3 жыл бұрын

Grave Titan is in 100% of all Black Decks so it isn't even a staple but a LITERAL auto-Include

@RobMedellin

3 жыл бұрын

A++++ card

@obadijahparks

3 жыл бұрын

I actually don't own it... yet..... I ordered it in secret lair though... I'll just have to wait a few years.

@elipetrou9308

3 жыл бұрын

@@obadijahparks yep same. I got the simic kaldheim one and it was supposed to be here months ago. Yay

Sometimes I watch your vids at 1.5 or 1.75 speed for that Quickpicking Nerds experience.

Dark ritual is A+++ one of the best instants ever printed

Blood artist is also a B+, because it triggers for each creature, not just yours.

I love the way Joe looked at Beezy when he was explaining the grades. "Did you really just say Demonic Tutor was 'A' before we even started the video?" Priceless

Beezy was looking really intense talking about how they do daily content

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Can't blink when you're talking about daily content

@shamtactics4712

3 жыл бұрын

I’m worried about early burnout. I do however appreciate the enthusiasm and excitement for daily content.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

@@shamtactics4712 wgat do you mean?

@bryanpmcgowan

3 жыл бұрын

He peers into your heart and burns away your soul. The only thing that remains is utter devotion to the Nitpicking Nerds

@shamtactics4712

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds I don’t want y’all to burn yourselves out by forcing quantity. The quality of y’all’s videos are fantastic and I’d hate to see the fire die out because of burnout. I don’t know if it’s possible with magic due to the constant content being added 🤷🏼‍♂️ my challenge to you I guess if you feel like you guys are feeling burn out please allow your self some rest. I love this channel! I just want to see the long term growth of this channel but as a human I also care for your guys well being. Long story short of y’all need a break here and there to stretch do so! Thank you for keeping up the awesome content. I just beg to you guys to consider your mental health if needed. 😁❤️

Dark Ritual is very good to power out Tergrid. If you're psychotic enough to run her as commander you want her out quickly as possible.

@unpro-gaming230

3 жыл бұрын

Sacrifice can be almost as good. I run an optimized tergrid build, and you have to be prepared to summon 2-3 times to make It stick in a competitive pod.

@thekwjiboo

3 жыл бұрын

I played in a 4 player game. The guy who went first ran Tergrid. Turn 1 he goes swamp, jeweled lotus, dark ritual. 5 mana for Tergrid, the 6th floating he cast thoughtseize on the guy to my left, grabbed a freekin Jin-Gitaxias from his hand to put into play. We all just said "good game", scooped shuffled and started over.

@ma9ical1

3 жыл бұрын

@@thekwjiboo Exactly, Dark Ritual is a key card in many decks, even if the planets aligned in this case.

@hiddenleaf414

3 жыл бұрын

Great to power out Beledros or get that extra mana for a big Torment of Hailfire.

@NightOfCrystals

2 жыл бұрын

Boo Tergrid. Yikes

NN: "There is not a cheaper boardwhipe". Meanwhile, Blasphemous acts cries silently in its corner because there are only 4 creatures in play.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah act is getting an A don’t worry about him

If you look at the ceiling for Phyrexian Arena when comparing it to Read the Bones you have to do the same for Read the Bones, you technically get the reach of 4 cards since you can Scry the first 2 to the bottom. Read the Bones is much better imo than a F and much better than Phyrexian Arena in most cases.

@vds92

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. At least C+ for Read the Bones, imo.

@raedien

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, lots of bad takes in this video. Lol

@forrestl5982

10 ай бұрын

This. I love the 4 card reach, especially if I'm needing a land or something like, say, one of my sac outlet that I haven't drawn yet. I think it's good when you're behind and good when you're ahead. It may not be as strictly efficient as a Nights Whisper/Sign in Blood, but the card selection/dig bumps it up. Plus it's budget as heck. Def at least a C/C+.

I’m really surprised that they put Grave Titan as the only card in S tier! I thought they weren’t too fond of it, but it seems like they’ve changed their minds

I really disagree with Read the Bones. The fact that you get to Scry 2 before you draw is incredibly good because you can just put them on the bottom for another chance to draw something relevant. And it gives you two cards instantly. Love it

Can't wait for all the tutors I don't have the money for to come up

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

And Diabolic Tutor

@williamwinder5011

3 жыл бұрын

Casual! In all seriousness, they do get ridiculous.

@Squee_666_9

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@B1indFremen

3 жыл бұрын

Proxy em bro

I think price of fame is underrated in this format. Since you'll almost always have a legendary target in the opponents commanders it's a 2 mana instant speed kill with surveil on it. Great value.

Last time was counterspells NOW FOR TUTORS!

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Basically!

I'm a little confused at why Diabolic Intent having a sacrifice cost makes it debatably better than Demonic Tutor in the right decks but Village Rites having a sacrifice cost makes it bad.

Red Elemental Blast in an auto include in mono-red decks. It counters counters. It kills 1/2 of the top commanders. It counters many of the biggest "if that resolves we lose" spells (as many/most of those seem to be blue). In CASUAL its great.

@NightOfCrystals

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly it’s probably defensible in CEDH too. How often will you not see a blue a deck with relevant spells at a CEDH table?

@V2ULTRAKill

2 жыл бұрын

Its actually SIGNIFICANTLY worse in casual than cedh

@joshuadempsey5281

2 жыл бұрын

@@NightOfCrystals The nerds usually insist its ONLY for cEDH, but its a fantastic card overall.

@joshuadempsey5281

2 жыл бұрын

@@V2ULTRAKill I didn't say its better in casual than it is in cEDH. Its absurdly good in cEDH, its also still great in casual.

@V2ULTRAKill

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuadempsey5281 its mid in casual Unless youre specifically running a mid to high power playgroup with lots of blue in your meta youre literally better playing something like lightning bolt (thats how bad it is in the wrong pods) its far too meta dependant Compared to cedh where its an auto include in every deck that runs red

This is the one I care about because Black has the only playable commander in the entire format: K'rrik. I love K'rrik.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Krrik is great

for diabolic tutor i think if you are in a budget this card can be a good tutor for like searching your pieces of your deck, me as a budget player i love that card tbh.

It feels so good having entomb and reanimate in your opening hand

enjoying your super cool 4k content so much! gives me good thoughts for decks in this horrible quarantine =D

You've finally updated my favorite part, the flavor text at the start. 10/10 I love it

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We are gonna get a back ground to make it a neon sign feel soon

Phyrexian arena is better in more casual games since those last longer but even still it takes 3 turns for phyrexian arena to do what read the bones does instantly without the extra benefit. Also read the bones is way cheaper (money wise) and is most of the time better since it’s better to get the boost you want when you play the card rather over the course of 3+ turns (usually). The reason why phyrexian arena is played so much is because it makes you “feel” like your drawing two cards a turn but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s gonna take three turns to be slightly worse than read the bones and half the time you can guarantee it will stay around for that long. Read the bones vs phyrexian arena is a really interesting conversation that could have been given more thought on during the video. A lot of the cards reviewed on the channel as a whole are usually just brushed over as “it’s bad don’t think about it” which makes people give people zero chance to consider cards that could be potentially good/better than the staples that make every game feel the same. I love the channel but some cards deserve more than to be written off without consideration/explanation.

Where are all of these incredible black card draw spells that make “Read the Bones” and “Phyrexian Arena” obsolete?

As a Meren player, I had a visceral reaction to Victimize being given a C

@connoringram4948

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you run a sorcery that reanimates when your commander already does this and it doesnt synergize with your deck cus its not a creature? Victimize absolutley deserves a c you gotta be milling yourself having small fodder creatures to sac and multiple ones in the gy for it to be good. Thas alot of hoops. As are great in any deck Bs require very little to build around or are jus good by themselves but dont synergize too well with other cards.

Mulldrifter = C+ Read the Bones = F Come on now... I don't think Read the Bones is the most amazing card ever but it certainly isn't an F in my book. Solid C for me. Can dig 4 deep and is great to set up your midgame turns (helps you avoid missing land drops and gives you gas). Really like these videos though and it's interesting to hear your views. EDIT: Also it doesn't suck drawing it late, it's pretty good tbh. Much better top deck than night's whisper/sign in blood. Ps. I also intensely dislike phyrexian arena Beezy :)

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Mulldrifter can be recurred, bounced, and used over and over easily but read the bones is just a 1 time thing

Great content, guys! As an avid black aficionado I have to something to add. Read the Bones - The scry on the card is very potent and for 1 mana more I'd rather be able to see 2 more cards from my library. This is the card that replaced Phyrexian Arena for me actually and never looked back. The only good thing going on with Arena is the devotion it adds. Obviously Read the Bones goes down if you include more tutors, but for straight up immediate draw it's very good. Viscera Seer - I'd argue that it's on par with Carrion Feeder. The latter brings the Zombie type which can combo with some cards, namely Gravecrawler.

@jaredhuckstep20

3 жыл бұрын

Same with read the bones and phyrexian arena

@dumbdom4videos436

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to post this. It feels like they completely overlooked the scry effect which pushes read the bones to a C for me. I'm never disappointed when I draw this card or have it in my opening hand.

"when they get rid of cabal coffers" BAAM MH2 reprint

Focus on Black = One of the best videos yet!.... I even stayed for the tidbit, and wow!... That list of patrons is growing!!! 😊👍🏼

This moment when you see dark ritual which is probably one if the best black cards on d+ lol. It basicly speeds you up by 2 turns which is insanly strong in this format.

@NoFlu

Жыл бұрын

Only id you draw it in your first 2 turns, so about a 8%-10% chance. Otherwise its a nice boost but nothing to write home about. Yea, I'd gave thrown it in C+, but I get their reasoning

Sudden substitutioning my opponent's torment for a million is probably in my top 10 ways I've killed the table

@mjvane46

3 жыл бұрын

Sudden substitutioning your own spell to stop the opponents mikaeus combo, to then combo with it 😉

I like the C grade change from Cut to Cuttable. They seemed more natural in this video as well.

I recently built Marrow-gnawer and this video is right up my alley!

First off been watching you guys awhile now and really enjoy the content. I find myself running a bunch of the draw cards in black that you say you shouldn't run. I would be interested to hear what you would be running instead in the episodes.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Well it is deck ti deck

@godzillapanek5465

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds I was just making a general statement when mentioning certain staples that a lot of the commander community plays. So if your not running phyrexian arena's and read the bones in your decks just toss a few cards that you do run to give us some insight.

@Morrodin182

3 жыл бұрын

@@godzillapanek5465 just run the cards, phyrexian arena is perfectly playable, so is read the bones ... the NN aren't all knowing gods but instead youtube content creators with personal tastest and opinions. What is being said is not without merit but I also noticed (regularly) that there are cards they just dislike even if it are good cards. Example being: Chromatic Lantern. They did a video on it not long ago about how you should not play it because it is a bad mana rock. This is not 100% false of course as the lantern's primary goal is not being a rock but being a mana filter. In other words enjoy their show but take what is said with a grain of salt

@godzillapanek5465

3 жыл бұрын

@@Morrodin182 I understand this and I was not trying to say I was going to instantly remove or stop playing these cards personally. I enjoy the channel and was trying to offer some constructive feedback. If the above mentioned cards should not be played and you are doing a show on staples on that color, I was just looking for their opinions on what are some of the options that could be played instead of the card. Doesn't have to be in depth but just say a card or two you feel is better and move on.

Dark ritual is an awesome card that helps to play Necropotence turn 1, or Ad Nauseum way faster. This is at least a B if not A. Most cEDH decks run it in the colour.

@V2ULTRAKill

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but anything below like an 8 in power level its a dead card more often than not *i say this as a yuriko high power player running 3 black rituals*

Bought some cards for my Ruxa Vanilla Creature tribal deck using the TCGPLAYER link today. Keep it up guys!

As a new player playing a dimir commander, this couldn't be any better timed.

All this time, I didn't realize Vampiric tutor was an instant

Can you please tell me where those lands are from in your picture frame? And how you got that made? And is it for sale?!

I disagree with read the bones or other draw spells like it, you gotta have some unconditional burst draw in your deck.

@Trisket

2 жыл бұрын

>Phyrexian Arena: C >Read the Bones: F I have no idea what these guys are talking about. Phyrexian Arena takes 3 turns after it's played to justify its casting cost, provided it isn't incidentally destroyed. Read the Bones allows you to dig up to 4 deep immediately and isn't a dead card after turn after turn 6 like Phyrexian Arena essentially is.

I depend a lot on draw that in mono black I run sign in blood, night's whisper, and even read the bones (besides syphon mind)... What should I use instead? (for me those are bad if you have access to other colors, but in orshov or mono black they are as good as it gets, or what am I missing?)

@simonecasolo3122

3 жыл бұрын

This. Agree1000%

@robertteisher3638

3 жыл бұрын

Right around when they grade crypt ghast, they admit that they don't play much black and beezy says he plays no mono black, and you can tell with the grades. You can only have one copy of Necropotence in a deck...not sure how else they recommend you draw cards consistently in mono or heavy-black, lol

@ogomezcastillo

3 жыл бұрын

Robert, that’s around the same time they did the dictate and I felt like they were trying to make it sound bad but they had no good points then the sign in blood made me realize they don’t like card draw haha

@kittenshanker

3 жыл бұрын

Cards like altars reap, village rites, costly plunder, and things like Midnight reaper, Grim haruspex, and dark prophecy can draw you an insane amount of cards. Especially if you have a sac loop or a token generator available. You can also generate big mana in black, so things like Vilis Broker of Blood can actually be easily achievable as draw. Especially in a deck like K'rrik.

@robertteisher3638

3 жыл бұрын

@@kittenshanker Plumb the forbidden is literally my favorite card from strixhaven, was super pumped for that one as soon as it was spoiled. Loves me Village Rites as well. However, these cards kind of shoe-horn you into playing Aristocrats. If thats not what you're deck is doing or you're not yet set up, these cards are worse then Night's Whisper & Sign in Blood. Or at least on par. The ceiling on Plumb is HUGE...but the floor is awful. Sign & whisper & read the bones are just trusty ole staples where you draw, you get it now, no assembly required, and no one is going to waste a counterspell on them. I'm SUPER off of cards like haruspex & midnight reaper...both way overrated imo. They require too specific a deck (haruspex especially) & boardstate to get your values worth out of them. Could just be my meta. I've had reaper be a 3 cmc "draw one, lose one" (even worse if it gets exiled) way too often to prefer it to Read the Bones's 3cmc "scry 2, draw 2, lose 2". No argument on Vilis...he's a house & i run him in 3 decks, haha.

The five minute mighty ducks rant made my whole week, y'all are wild

Love the series. Really interesting to see your thoughts on cards. I do think the colors you're playing can really influence if you wind up with some of these D/F cards in your decks. Mono-colored decks probably see a lot more of these I'd bet. I'm also a throw all the staples in a deck player and I couldn't be more bored with the format.

Hey guys. Been watching your ranking all commanders series (lmfao) and at one point you mention doing gameplay videos in the future. Is this still on the table? If so, when do you think you'll be trying to make it happen?

I have dark ritual and cabal ritual in my commander deck should I cut both? It's mardu colours

I'm interested in seeing your multi color grading. The Blood Artist section reminds me of Poison Tip Archer

I love how after Beezy glared his way through his daily content thing, he had to reset his face before moving on.

Do you like any draw spells for mono black that don't require synergy besides Necropotence?

@jaredhuckstep20

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Plague crafter a B- .... read the bones an F? I'm much more likely to run read the bones for my 100th card instead of plague crafter

What do you guys recommend in place of phyrexian arena? I understand it's not optimal, but what 3 manan draw spell could replace it? Read the bones has the potential to see 4 cards deep in one go, but it's a one and sone AND was rated low

@kittenshanker

3 жыл бұрын

Dark Confidant, Village Rights, Altars Reap, costly plunder, nights whisper, sign in blood. All replace cards faster than phyrexian arena, and in dark confidants case, it can come down faster, if you hit a land you don't lose any life, and it's a creature so it can be used for blocking or saccing.

@kittenshanker

3 жыл бұрын

Also necropotence.

Entomb, Reanimate, Vilis Broker of Blood. Yes money!! My fav combo in my K’rrik deck. I never hear you guys mention it! Great vid, still advocating for Yawgmoth’s Will here... ;)

I play Bontu vs seer, seer gets killed quickly in my group, bontu sticks around for a bit, and is an optional hitter with menace.. but to each his own, pretty good list guys! Thanks for the tid bits!

You knew it was coming...so here's the defense for Dark Ritual: If you're in mono or mostly black, it's an auto include. I'm happy to see it at "almost" any point in the game, almost never had it be a dead draw. Cast my 3cmc commander on T1 with just one swamp? Sound good. T1 Necropotence or Phyrexian Arena? Yes pls definitely. Cast Victimize for 1 instead of 3? Entomb & Reanimate it immediately with just one land (and still have a black floating)? I like those a lot. Pump 2 additional mana into that big X spell that wasn't quite worth it yet? Is good. **end rant** Edit: almost end of rent...forgot about the game I had one measly swamp held up, opponent didn't figure i could really do anything, so they went for the tutor. Dark Ritual into Opposition Agent, mwuahaha. Enjoyed the rest of the video though 😆👍

I can’t imagine my life without Syr Konrad, hands down my favorite commander right now.

Oh hey Pitiless Plunderer, I figured that card would be an absolute house. I managed to get one for Korvold at 0.62 cents ages ago.

I run arena, bones, and blood in my vilis deck, turns these cards into great card draw. After all, it doesn't matter if your losing life, when losing life is the thing you want to do in the first place!

I just started playing EDH and I'm trying to build an orzov themedxlifegain deck. If phyrexian arena and read the bones are F then what should I be using? Trying to figure out what to add for draw effects.

@raedien

Жыл бұрын

They are not correct here. They simultaneously say they aren't talking about cEdh but then consider Arena and ReadTB too slow/casual. Card Advantage is card advantage.

Zulaport, both tutors and dark ritual work perfect in k’rrik

Care to tell us some good draw spell options that we should be running in Black then?

One thing to remember about budget decks, is they often have one or two really good cards that have been splurged for. In that instance, tutors become more necessary. I do agree that diabolic is something you have to be desperate for a specific card to run it.

@V2ULTRAKill

2 жыл бұрын

In that case run beseech the queen instead Better 99% of the time on a budget

great serie do you think after this one can you do the same by archtype?

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We are thinking going to the next 30 as there are a lot of great staples left in each color

I've got diabolic tutor AND read the bones ALL UP IN my Kaalia deck. They're so in that they ain't coming out even now with the power rankings upon us. =] 'preciate the videos, dudes.

@NitpickingNerds Exsanguinate is an all star in my Rakdos, Lord of Riots, deck. X = 4 = free Eldrazi, huge Walking Ballista, etc. It's straight gas in that deck.

I would never cut out Victimize from my Meren deck in that specific deck it's just too good! But will definitely swap phyrexian arena with either Dark Prophecy or Liliana Dreadhorde General

Your tidbit reminds me of a similar line from some dumb sitcom where the guy says "I'm a level 7 magic the gathering player" and the audience loses it. Hilarious

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

What is that from?

@bryanpmcgowan

3 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds not sure. One of those fat/ugly dudes married to a hot lady shows. King of queens or something

I agree on the Phyrexian Arena that it is very cuttable. I had considered it for my deck centered around Beledros Witherbloom/Pests but realized that there was a better one in the shape of Dark Prophecy. Tying the draw to my sacrifices instead of just once a turn is better most of the time and it is also three mana. Also a cheaper card to buy which is always nice.

Wait, so what card draw spells DOES Beezy like? He poo-pooed everything lol

@pauljimerson8218

3 жыл бұрын

Necropotence

@alanparana6899

2 жыл бұрын

Bolas’ citadel

Thing is with Exsanguinate and not playing aristocrats, I need life gain so Kokusho, Gray Merchant and Exsang are pretty big deals. Also, I run Ravenous Chupacabra and Noxious Gearhulk and I don't play Shirekmaw because I don't like cards that have color restriction/conditions on them.

Guys, what do you think about Black Market as a ramp for aristocrats compared to Pitiless Plunderer?

Exanguinate is a win con in my big-mana-spells, lifesaving Bekedros, Witherbloom deck (and Torment of Hailfire of course).

Great show! Now You have a new subscriber from Perú that needs USD to upgrade his deck XD. Thanks for the EDH Insights.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

No problem we are glad you enjoy the content ♥️

The only board wipe that beats out Toxin Deluge is Farewell. In my opinion, being able to get rid of whatever you want, and choosing any nonland permanent type is great, not to mention graveyards

Consensus dictates that to get consistency in commander you need 10 to 12 -ard draw so if your not playing sign n Blood cards what ten do you play ?

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the deck list

what card draw would you guys use in mono black/orzhov?

@ballzock1039

3 жыл бұрын

Necropotence and Ad Nausuem are the best in mind

@ab-us9fv

3 жыл бұрын

@@ballzock1039 so you only run 2 card draw spell?

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

@@ab-us9fv what kind of deck? Midnight Reaper, Grim Huraspex, it really depends on archetypes

@ab-us9fv

3 жыл бұрын

​@@NitpickingNerds something like teysa karlov or Yawgmoth, Thran Physician (Aristocrat Theme), ill be adding the two you mention to start with to my collection

One great reason for dark ritual that I see time and time again in cEDH is SURPISE! opposition agents against turn one vampiric tutors and the likes. ;)

Pitiless Plunderer only being 6-7 dollars. Now that’s a good joke.

Turn 1 dark ritual has won me a lot games. My rakdos reanimator thrives on it. Entomb and then exhume on turn 1 is guaranteed win.

For people who play in groups where $50 for one card is frowned upon, Diabolic Tutor is pretty damn nice.

Imo Blood Artist is the B+ and cutthroat is the B just cause it can stop your opponent from going infinite and allows you to play destruction spells and not really care as much. Either way, if you're playing aristocrats their both auto includes.

I need a heads up on the grave titan meme, ive been out of the mtg loop since its debut.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

We did a video saying it was unplayable in high power levels and people defended it as a good card

So what would be good for budget black card draw ? I thought the 2 to 3 cmc (lose 2 life draw 2 cards ) are always relevant searching for land drops early and other cards later. I run : Necrologia , Skeletal Scrying , Succumb to temptation , Arguels Blood Fast , moonlight bargain and all the other 2 to 3 cmc ones

@daviddeboer8793

3 жыл бұрын

Greed (and arguels blood.. Something, the greed from ixalan) minions murmers for creature decks, phyrexian reclamation (returning creatures to hand from GY) , underworld connection of you have untapping of lands or as a really bad arena. Less budget but still good is new erebos drawing from death triggers, or merciless executioner. Then there is the new 5 mana one that draws cards equal to the cmc of your commander. Oh and plunge into darkness is quite good as well.

@daviddeboer8793

3 жыл бұрын

And I totally missed that you already mentioned arguels blood fast, anyway, hope this list is helpful, though I do not play at high power at all. Oh, I do like gonti as pseudo card draw and the new graveyard exiling gonti (author of shadows)

@shibby9493

3 жыл бұрын

@@daviddeboer8793 thank you for the helpful reply man. Minions murmurs and greed are awesome. I need some devotion ones as well for my mogis deck and that is welcome with UW connections. I also like disciple of bolas , morbid curiosity and damnable pact, but I'm a filthy casual too haha

@daviddeboer8793

3 жыл бұрын

@@shibby9493 haha good to hear:) I didn't remember morbid curiosity but is seems very sweet for black also on theme. I happen to own a yagwmoth from a draft, so that is often a go to for my black creature decks (it was as a commander one of my strongest decks, but in the 99 he still packs a punch, also I like the art)

@shibby9493

3 жыл бұрын

@@daviddeboer8793 yep , I think that's a hidden gem (morbid curiosity ). nice pull from draft (yawg) he's sick for saccing and card draw. I was thinking of making a mono black saccing deck with him or Yahenni at helm but he seemed powerful for us casuals.

Emilio had scheduling issues when they filmed Might Ducks 3 and they had to rewrite it. Good list.

New subscriber here! Great content!

I agree with dark ritual being a terrible card in most decks but the same logic should be applied to most mana dorks. I saw your earlier video where you gave mana dorks high marks if they just stick for a turn or two before being wrathed away. That's the same thing as a dark ritual, maybe even worse depending on the situation. Especially when you guys say you should never chump block. Mana dorks are almost always worse than a dark ritual. Which is a bad card most of the time.

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

We never say you should never chump block. Dorks are 1 mana ramp that needs to be removed. It ramps you every turn it stays out. Ritual is a one time effect.

@sebastianscopa3188

11 ай бұрын

The floor and ceiling on a mana dork is lower and higher than dark ritual, since there's more effects that can kill off a mana dork than there are counters for a dark ritual, but the ceiling for mana dorks can be higher, and on average, is higher since games of varying power levels do not feature tons of removal for dorks in the early game that people are willing to run and use on dorks with little else on the board. Context also matters, mana dorks in their respective mono color decks are commonly seen in green, who can use them the turn after to start ramping to get long term value out of them faster, as creatures they also come with more upsides than an instant does, as they can be resummoned, can block to save you, can be buffed, among other things. So, dark ritual's strengths naturally are for when you have game winning plays like in cedh, and in lower power, it's best for getting out your commander sooner (think Tergrid, Yawgmoth, etc), or, as the nerds said, adding to storm count, (so add blue and/or red to the mix). Mana dorks are historically among the strongest category of card archetypes in the game, it's just not feasible to spend cards killing 1/1s on the first few turns of the game, and they have tons of upsides and synergies

You need arena for solemnity lock

I never checked the list. I was curious about where Dead of Winter would land with the prevalence of snow lands in EDH

okay then how do i draw cards in decks without wide board and blue if all these draw 2 cards are trash?

I will say this for diabolic tutor. You see it a lot of decks because people can afford it vs demonic tutor/vampiric tutor which can run you $50-60. I’m not arguing that’s it’s better, it’s not, in fact I’d say it’s objectively worse. I would say the $cost-to-card value ratio is better than an F.

lol time to cut a Dark Ritual for Necropotence in my Gix deck… I don’t know what it is about combat damage triggers to draw cards, but it makes my brain happy to do it. Backup Gix that’s harder to kill? Seems pretty good.

dark ritual is also cheap mana fixing(+ramp) for multi colored decks that want to play bolas's citadel/necropotence. it also saves you sometimes when you don't get enough lands. it's not only good to cast commanders that make you draw but also for example in liesa, where you want her out asap while being able to recast her later for 5 mana when you have the lands, and 2 cmc mana rocks don't really help more than 3 cmc rocks. It's good even if your commander makes you draw AND you draw it after casting it, for example in brina, who's 3cmc and can draw into dark ritual and some high cmc cards. it's almost a black lotus that gives 2 mana, seeing all the craze for jeweled lotus I'd say it's worth more than a d+

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

The difference between 1 and zero mana is huge.

Can you name me a replacement for read the bones exept the one with 4 mana value that lets you draw 3. And buget pls. Like under 1 dollar.

@youngnikos9625

2 жыл бұрын

Read the bones is a good card

red blast is amazing if you don't have access to blue early phyrexiam arema is unbeatable, if you draw it late game, as you say your deck is built in a way that it shouldn't need it, no different from a ramp spell

Salute for the read the bones out there. They did they’re best

Can you make a list about the best defenses against blink decks? People keep blinking things and I can only Exile so.. many of them.

@kittenshanker

3 жыл бұрын

Containment priest and Tocatli Honor guard absolutely hose blink decks.

Is Feed the Swarm a staple? How would you rate it?

@NitpickingNerds

3 жыл бұрын

C you won’t play it in most decks unless you are have not other choices

Dark ritual is good in a deck that can use that extra boost any turn to push out an extra engine piece that will compensate that one turn of value. I have no idea what kind of meta you guys play in... adding that for context would be useful. Also the best Mono black staple after Necropotence is Infernal Darkness.

You might be tired of playing against cabal coffers, but without it, mono-black decks would be unplayable

@raedien

Жыл бұрын

Yeah lots of bad takes in this video.

Are you guys from Cincinnati? I see the Queen City shirt.