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@John-nc4bl

9 ай бұрын

Just more old Britarded 'iron' that didnt sell worth a hoot.

@John-nc4bl

9 ай бұрын

Some people in the small island nation of Britain continue to drown themselves in nostalgia, are ‘poisoned’ with ‘colonial arrogance’ and ‘dreamy jingoism’.

@dumbassgreek

9 ай бұрын

​@@John-nc4blLMAO, get over it racist dumbass

@dumbassgreek

9 ай бұрын

reported ya, don't need your useless racist comments, "Britarded" lmao think of a good insult.

@dumbassgreek

9 ай бұрын

oh and forgot to mention, you didn't even come up with any of the ideas, and they were valuable and definetly costed more than a "hoot", and by the way, I'm thinking of posting you on social media, because we don't need retarded, racist, karens like you.

This is how Aircraft need to be preserved. Able to power up and potter about the airfield and runway. Not dead and lifeless in a hangar.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@Frserthegreenengine

9 ай бұрын

Would be lovely for sure. But they would be extremely expensive to maintain and many museums simply can't afford to do it (or don't have a runway for it). But yes, would be nice.

@thestig8133

8 ай бұрын

I do agree with you on that. But, it cost a good few million estimated between £3, 000, 000 & £10, 000, 000 + per aircraft estimated 🤔😟😟😟 just to maintain them for this let alone & for airworthy & airshows & flight tests. That's why they are far cheaper to have them in hangers or super size museums for the public to come & see.

@daniel_of_jersey4775

8 ай бұрын

Yea thats cool and all, but $$$

@Bartonovich52

8 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s definitely a happy medium. I love to see them fly but so many irreplaceable historic aircraft have been lost and of course the loss of life that goes with it. But static displays seem to deteriorate and rot and often they are just shells patched up with pop rivets and tin. In run-up, taxi conditions lets you hear and feel them and takes to back to airports and bases where they were active. But…. It’s still about $$$… trying to find or make parts, having skilled mechanics to work on them and people proficient in running them.. or even just fuel which is consumed at a prodigious rate even at idle on most of these old birds.

It’s incredible to see the Comet still moving under its own engines 74 years on. Major credit to those engineers who keep it running

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@ImpendingJoker

9 ай бұрын

When you realize that the Nimrod is nothing more than a souped up Comet, it's not really that impressive.

@gamingpredator4226

8 ай бұрын

@@ImpendingJoker Yes, but the Nimrod is extensively modified and will have been kept far more up to date, they were also still in active service all the way up until 2009. The comets were retired in the late 90's and weren't nearly as up to date. So it is still impressive the Comet is still capable of near take off speeds

@SomeOrdinaryJanitor

8 ай бұрын

wow, way to undersell it...@@ImpendingJoker

Those people in the lightning and buccaneer. Well all of them actually. How great must the temptation be to just pull back on the stick and get airborne. I know I wouldn’t be able to resist

@CaptainGarratt

9 ай бұрын

They have tiny fuel tanks so wouldn’t have enough fuel even for 1 circuit…. Guess it’s a way of taking away temptation

@ertwander

9 ай бұрын

A pilot should be professional enough not to take a plane up into the air that isn´t airworthy anymore. Pull back on the stick and you might enter a world of pain without coming back.

@CaptainGarratt

9 ай бұрын

@@ertwander you don’t need a pilots license to taxi a plane.

@ertwander

9 ай бұрын

@@CaptainGarratt without being a trained pilot, one shouldn´t think of pulling back on the stick even more.

@CaptainGarratt

8 ай бұрын

@@ertwander agreed

When i read that title i thought this was some aviation disaster, glad to see a wholesome video of old planes safe.

From the days when Britain had a world leading aviation industry. Destroyed by politicians primarily in the 1960’s. I recall seeing most of these flying then. I now live in Cape Town,until a few years ago, it was possible to see Lightning, Bucaneer & Hunter’s flying even a Shackleton MR3. Brought back memories of great days & used to bring tears to my eyes.

@Bartonovich52

8 ай бұрын

Wasn’t destroyed by politicians… unless you mean when Churchill bankrupted the nation fighting a war that pissed away an Empire and kept them in hawk until 2006. Politicians were the only reason they survived at all. Handley Page was a textbook example… without suckling at the government teat with bottomless and zero-risk cost-plus defence contracts.. it went bankrupt trying to make a tiny commuter aircraft. Collaboration and globalization was the key to survival. Even Boeing and Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman make only a fraction of their own planes.

As an American, the Lightning is truly one of the most beautiful aircraft to ever fly. Would be cool to see this and an F-4 fly together. Great footage!

That Comet in the beginning looks gorgeous!

Now that is cool to see and hear these classics racing down the runway, definitely not something you get to experience often. Love those sounds!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed these old birds having a good blast 👍

Some of these aircraft are the most beautifully designed in the world in any era! Britons always had an eye for aeronautic design.

@ImpendingJoker

9 ай бұрын

No, they all pretty much live up to the addage: If it's ugly, it's British. haha

@DeadChan67

9 ай бұрын

@@ImpendingJokerkinda both ngl

@joeg5414

9 ай бұрын

@@ImpendingJoker Yeah I kind of agree. They make some goofy looking airplanes 1:50 - I mean look at that. It's hideous

@DevelDogg48

8 ай бұрын

Nah, they’re pretty hideous. Not taking away from how great they were, but they definitely weren’t lookers.

The owners, mechanics, and engineers must love their machines, and it really shows.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

💯

I remember in late 80s watching Buccaneers skim over the sea, Victor taking off to refuel aircraft ,Canberras, from valley Angelsey, and early 70s Lightnings at Warton, in 60s watching 3 Vulcans at altitude on the way to school in Manchester.

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

fantastic

Dad used to work on the Hawker Hunter at RAF Kemble many years ago and wrote 2 books about them. Delta Jets used those books as reference when they were still restoring the Hunter. I miss many hours with my Dad in front of them. We also went to RAF Wroughton, when he was working for the MOD there, and i remember a B17 Flying Fortress being absolutely dwarfed by the Avro Lancaster. Memories of wonderful aircraft and the shows we went to in the 70's and 80's.

I wish all these planes could fly again. We've lost so much of our heritage and it's not just aviation.

@dr.jillalicecooper2587

9 ай бұрын

But you got Sadiq Khan, Sunak and all loving and hard working refugees LMAO

@peterresetz1960

9 ай бұрын

@bonknessmonster, Unless this a museum, these aircraft flew there.

@imperialinquisition6006

9 ай бұрын

Well this is a museum, so the aviation heritage is literally preserved. But beyond that, while unfortunately many Cold War jets will not fly, there are many WW2 props and some jets flying, as well as more being restored to flight. So it’s not really the end of the world.

@imperialinquisition6006

9 ай бұрын

@@dr.jillalicecooper2587Relevance to aircraft? Sunak+the tories in general will certainly lose the next election, and Sadiq will probably go as well. Just talk about aeroplanes lmao

@Tmccreight25Gaming

8 ай бұрын

​@@dr.jillalicecooper2587most of these museums are charities and receive no government funding. But any excuse to shit on people fleeing war I guess.

Bravo. Rule Britannia. Greetings from Australia.

Great trip back to yesteryear!! Hoping for one step further, and seeing these old birds take to the air.

@ianlitchfield9273

9 ай бұрын

It won't & can't happen I'm afraid.

Absolutely fantastic 👏 what nostalgia, and what amazing aircraft. The lightning always wins for me! Thankyou for sharing Bob great video

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Welcome. Pleased you enjoyed hearing these old beauties having a blast

Hands up if you’ve seen all these fantastic aircraft fly!!! 🙌🏻

@ieuandavies4134

9 ай бұрын

All of em’……but I’m old!!😮

@rnichol22

9 ай бұрын

Oh yes

At the leuchars airshow in the 70's , a Lightning did the ultimate sneak pass , at about 200ft. on full burners , what a machine! Someone had a thought ," lets take 2 big jet engines and weld them together , then if we strap a pilot to the top it should be spiffing good fun, What"

@davidwalker9015

8 ай бұрын

Must’ve been the one I saw at the then Turnhouse air show (Edinburgh Airport now) fly really low and loud over Cramond. Awesome, still remember it to this day!

What a fantastic footage my friend 🙂👍I love that Comet and English Electric Lightning

Brilliant stuff! Thanks for posting it.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed watching

Beautiful Aircraft there!! Wonderful to see them running and restored to their former glory!

that is what i like of british "museums". instead just put things inside a building forever, every time that is possible they mantain them working and also shows them to the people. cars, planes, ships... Always loved how aerodynamic the Hawker Hunter is, but was very surprised to see a Comet 4! thanks very much for submit this video, btw, greetings from Argentina!

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Glad you enjoyed watching 👍

The DeHavilland Comet is a national treasure

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

💯👍

@wintersbattleofbands1144

8 ай бұрын

Wing root intakes are so... classy. The mystique of the jet engine early on embraced by the Brits. Ease of maintenance or make it pretty...? Let's make it pretty! Bravo! Kudos!

I'm so glad to be part of the generation that not only worked on some of these aircraft, but saw them regularly on the air show circuit every year. Just needed a Vulcan, Jaguar and Tornado to finish the classic collection off!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Fantastic. Pleased you enjoyed watching along 👍

@user-fg2bf1gd7t

8 ай бұрын

Saudi Arabia has Tornado. Our Indian Air Force still has Jaguars.

Oh dear me. The word "Rotate" is all that was going through my mind here......ooops !! Stunning video of stunning classic aircraft. Thank you !!!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Yeah if only! Glad you enjoyed watching 🤗👍

I think the Victor is beautiful in a menacing way and the Lighting is gaaaaaaaaaasspp awesome.

It's wonderful that they keep these planes in such great condition and still able to fire up the engines and move on their own power. I wish they did that here in America. Would love to see some old jets like the F-102 or the A-5 Vigilante go screaming down the runway.

❤❤❤ My generation of British jet aircraft. Thank you so much.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Fantastic engineering. Glad you enjoyed seeing these old birds blast up the runway

One word: "Wow!"

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the oldskool racket from these fine birds

amazing rare plane spotting video 👍

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Pleased you enjoyed watching 🤗

This is amazing!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed seeing these old birds giving it the beans

Great to see they still function!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

They all have so much character and you can see they all wanna take off 😉

@Aerospotter.

9 ай бұрын

@@bobsurgranny Indeed!

Brittish aircraft are just so beautiful and unique, definetly my favourite aircrafts!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

💯 me too

@rescue270

9 ай бұрын

The plural of aircraft is still just aircraft. Not aircrafts.

@John-nc4bl

9 ай бұрын

Some people in the small island nation of Britain continue to drown themselves in nostalgia, are ‘poisoned’ with ‘colonial arrogance’ and ‘dreamy jingoism’.

@dumbassgreek

9 ай бұрын

​@@John-nc4bloh come on kiddo, don't put your racist remarks everywhere, just a bit more and you'll become 13, dumbass

@imperialinquisition6006

9 ай бұрын

@@John-nc4blAverage stupid internet comment. It is completely fair to say that you like the design of old aircraft. Keep your weird complexes off the internet.

Beautiful video ❤ Awesome collection

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

glad you enjoyed watching 🤗

A routinely fantastic video and job! I admittedly I am very delighted to be supporting you in the best ways possible, and continue on producing your incredibly inspiring and amazing work, including to share it all around and to support others great contents for their betters, as I’m striving to do! I encourage all my subscribers and friends to keep having great diligence and ambition despite the unwanted circumstances, and with great confidence as well! 🍀🙏👍

Fantastic

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

Pleased you enjoyed watching 🤗👍

A chill went down my spine when I saw the dreaded ‘square’ windowed Comet powering up, I thought it was going to take off … 😅

Absolutely spectacular!❤️

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed seeing these old girls have a blast up the runway 😉👍

So love these vintage jets, sad they are not flying though 😞

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Yeah good to see them running but a real bummer they don't fly

@adlibbed2138

8 ай бұрын

don't wanna risk them falling down tho, even in airshows, Goodwood FOS blunders can happen, like there are several amount of P-51 Mustangs has been fallen down

Now these are very rare to see!! I mean, I can't believe the De Havilland Comet is still alive and can move on it's own original engines.

Awsome super cool please do more like this

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

glad you enjoyed hearing these old birds blasting down the runway

TOP video ✈️ 👍👍👍

Once upon a time, Britain 🇬🇧 proudly made aircraft… and they were awesome!

Excellent !

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed watching 👍

Superb. Absolutely superb. Just a shame these beautiful ladies aren't flying anymore as you could see they were champing at the very bit to be let loose

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

💯👍

Brilliant!!!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Awesome!!!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Great hearing those noisy old birds. Glad you enjoyed the footage 👍

You KNOW at least a few of these pilots were thinking "ya know...all I'd have to do is pull back the yoke...should I???"

The EE Lightning was awesome with brute power from its RR Avon engines! One and only fighter interceptor with unique staggered engine design! 👍👍

Proper goosebumps seeing that Lightning bomb down the runway

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

Great to hear! glad you enjoyed watching

Me: who invited this guy to the game No one: Nimrod: What did you just say!

G'day to you, OMG all my Dream planes in one Place, These were the Aircraft I remember be for coming to Oz,ExPat Mancunian!

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

pleased you enjoyed watching

COOL!

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed watching these cold war era jets blast up the runway 👍

@coolhand66

9 ай бұрын

@@bobsurgranny oh yeah really enjoyed the lightning and the Hanley page really cool is he just don't see that much anymore

5:10 The beautiful Lightning. I saw one as a child at RAF Biggin Hill do a supersonic flypast. It is awesome and still an icon imho.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

💯👍 Lucky bugger

How so much more interesting are these old birds than the ultra modern jets? Was lucky enough to have flown in the Nimrods over 30 years ago.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Fantastic, loved the nimrod They all have great individual character.

@John-nc4bl

9 ай бұрын

Some people in the small island nation of Britain continue to drown themselves in nostalgia, are ‘poisoned’ with ‘colonial arrogance’ and ‘dreamy jingoism’.

@ozzy8286

9 ай бұрын

@@John-nc4bl I think you need to go and get checked out.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Triggered trigglypuff

@dumbassgreek

9 ай бұрын

​​@@bobsurgrannyhaha, yeah, I'm mass reporting his ass, I'm pretty sure this guy making racist remarks on the British, he said German technology is far superior, LMAO 💀

Awesome, when was this?

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

2013

I had heard Cold War Jets had closed down a few years ago, so how recent is this footage?

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

Yes this was 2013

some fantastic footage you've got here. When was this filmed?

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

cheers this was 2013

@keithwasntbarrumsing483

8 ай бұрын

cheers, heard this place closed a few years back, its a real shame.@@bobsurgranny

I watched that Lightning leave BAe Warton on an autumn afternoon, straight up to 50,000 feet in a salmon pink sky, early 1990s.

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

whAT an awesome memory to have

Amazing video when was this taken?

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

2013

When was this filmed? Last I heard the Cold War Jets days were effectively over and they were using it as a giant car park. If that's changed it would be great to go down again and see the jets run.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Yep this was 10 years ago, think they still run a few things including the Lightning but doesn't seen as appealing to visit these days as you say

@olympus__

9 ай бұрын

They’ve recently started doing open days again, just with static runs. The Buccaneers, however, still conduct fast taxi runs, now based at Kemble!

イングリッシュ•エレクトリック　ライトニング、ボテ腹が可愛い。上昇力とトップスピードに優れた高性能迎撃機だけど、なんだか癒やされるデザインなのが英国流と言えるのかなあ。

Belo vídeo. Congratulações . Faltou o " GLOSTER METEOR ". Abraços desde São Paulo - Brasil .

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

Thank you. Pleased you enjoyed the video 👍

Would love to see the buccaneer flying again

Great footage! What year was this? Absolutely criminal what's happened to Bruntingthorpe in recent years. At least some aircraft escaped.

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

2013 this was

Great video where was it filmed cheers Gary

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Bruntingthorpe. Please read descriptions 👍

did any of them leave the ground or did they just power down the runway? Every clip is a video that ended too soon.

@wintersbattleofbands1144

8 ай бұрын

Um, read the title of the video. These just high speed taxi runs. These aircraft have probably lost their airworthiness certificates, but at least they're essentially functional rather than being dead displays.

I flew in a Dan Air Comet 4 from London to Piraeus in December 1980.

I remember in mid 70s watching passenger comets landing at Manchester.

Afterburners on that lightning! You must have felt it from there

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

Yep loudest thing I've ever heard no doubt

When was these clips all recorded??

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

May 2013

Half these aircraft I didn't know were still flying!

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

None of these are in airworthy condition, they just blast them down the runway once in a while

@simplybutter1

8 ай бұрын

oh well still good to see them moving!@@bobsurgranny

That De Haviland Comet looks clean though

@bobsurgranny

7 ай бұрын

This was 10 years ago, I hear it has been left to rot now, such a shame

👏

Hi Mr Bobsurgranny! How would you like to try one of our binaural 3D mics for aircraft events? You can get a sense of what they are about on my channel of a Typhoon at Southport air show this year, but be sure to wear headphones and lower the volume to about 50% for the best experience :O) It's called binaural audio and is a clone of how we hear audio, so puts you there where the mic was.

what camera?

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

just a sony XR160 handycam

oh man.. that Lightning wanted to take off so bad...

Did the Canberra reject the takeoff?

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

No, none of these are deemed airworthy any longer, they sometimes just give them a blast down the runway with fast taxi runs

Even by todays standards the ENGLISH ELECTRIC LIGHTNING has to be still one of the most fastest flying & fastest excellarating aircraft ever built & most feard fighters ever designed & flown. Just so sad it does fly in the UK anymore ( out of date software etc, etc , etc ) & i have sadly never seen one inflight & now i never will only online 😟

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

They still fly one in South Africa

@thestig8133

8 ай бұрын

@@bobsurgranny SADLY that is absolute no use to me if i can't get there. & i still say they are such a fantastic aircraft & i will always they are real shame never to fly in the UK ever again. So, if other iconic aircraft are still allowed to fly here in the UK at various events around the country then i just wish the stupid rule & regulations of this peticular aircraft wasn't as tight as they make out on it. But, what can i do about NOTHING!!! so, it's simp!y KZread vids to enjoy of it.

@wintersbattleofbands1144

8 ай бұрын

"accelerating."

Wait so were they just only drag racing the planes?!

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

yep pretty much haha

If only Concorde was allowed to display like this.

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

it would do 😉

Thank you for the fine videos but I wish you included the rotation and initial clime out.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

These were just fast taxi runs, to give the engines a good blast, none of these planes are deemed airworthy any longer unfortunately..

@Crazyuncle1

9 ай бұрын

@@bobsurgranny That explains it. Initially I watched it with the sound turned down so I wouldn’t wake the wife. Giving the engines a good blast is a great description.

@owensmith7530

9 ай бұрын

@@Crazyuncle1It's good for clearing the cobwebs out of the engines...

Felt myself breathing in those fumes every run.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Lovely! About time we invented "smellavision " 😜

Must be verry hard for the pilot not to pull the nose up and fly off when he is burning down the runway in these iconic aircrafts😅

Are these planes still airworthy?

1:40 we have one of those in sweden, in a museum

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

nice, not often you see Canberras nowadays

Where is it possible to have a look on these still working beauty?

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

They have a twin seater EE Lightning still flying in South Africa

Thunderbirds Are GO !

Weres this at

@bobsurgranny

5 ай бұрын

Bruntingthorpe

Great Victor bomber

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

💯 Victor has sooo much character, what a marvel in engineering and way ahead of its time. The Victor run is on the end screen 👍

@125brat

9 ай бұрын

It's actually a K2 tanker now. It started as a B2 bomber, then was converted to a BSR2 reconnaissance aircraft, then to a K2 3-point air-to-air refuelling tanker.

Go COMET!

oh god thath electra. didnt know one still existed

I've ridden in the Comet down the runway. Shame the new owners want all aviation activity gone from Bruntingthorpe.

@bobsurgranny

9 ай бұрын

Nice. Yep not enough dollar in it for them. Terrible there's no heritage preservation thought going on and they don't care, just always money orientated

Post WWII English music was the best in the world, think of both British invasions and all the famous bands. What a gift to mankind! But there was another gift, the gift of building some of the ugliest planes on the surface of the earth (whilst the Spitfire was the most beautyful).

@John-nc4bl

9 ай бұрын

The old Spit was an ugly aircraft with its narrow stance of landing gear. As well, Britain stole the idea from Germany for the planform of an elliptical wing since Gremany had flown elliptical winged aircraft long before Britain did. A P51 was a much more attractive looking aircraft than the ugly old Spitfire.

@LCdrDerrick

9 ай бұрын

@@John-nc4bl See, I knew this with the eliptical wing, stolen from Junkers or some other German company. I wrote this under another Spit video, where I also claimed that the later Griffon Spit is the most beautyful aircraft, not static on the ground of course, with the silly narrow gear, which was built that way for rails transportation imho, but in the air. The ugly raised Merlin nose was corrected then, as to say stolen from the BF109. But the fanbois killed me for the story with the stolen wing. The Mustang however, with its stolen Merlin engine (the Yanks haven't been a technology nation back then) and its tumour under the belly and its silly narrow fuselage is, so to say from the same kind as any of the planes shown above, where nobody seemed to care for aesthetis, but only for function. Beauty is not a thing of taste, beauty and aesthetics is "objectifiable", shown e.g. in the golden section. Again, the P51 is not a beautiful, well proportioned aircraft. It is build from people who came from barbarism to decadence without even scratching the zenith of culture. At least for my taste ;). The canopy however was sleek!

@dumbassgreek

9 ай бұрын

​@@John-nc4blcan you please get your American ass outta here

What is registra

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

You can see most if not all by looking closely and pausing 👍

Awesome vid but why wouldn’t you show them at least rotating?? That would’ve been the icing on the cake. 🤔

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

All these are no longer airworthy, they just give them a good ol' blast down the runway every now and then

Brits aircraft are always the most bizarre airplanes you can find! it's always difficult to say if they are ugly or beautiful. but interesting to see anyway

How come they arent allowed to take off? Really cool!

@bobsurgranny

8 ай бұрын

CAA won't let these fly any more, all deemed un-airworthy, so we only see the occasional fast blast up the runway

Nice collection, but why don't you show us the take offs?

@bobsurgranny

7 ай бұрын

none of them took off, they are no longer airworthy so they just give em a blast down the runway

@karloarsch1579

7 ай бұрын

@@bobsurgranny I am sorry, my bad, I knew, that the comet and the victor are not longer airworthy, but thought that the smaller fighters still are. Thanks.

@bobsurgranny

7 ай бұрын

np