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Cliffe Classics - A Majority of Believers of A Certain Religion Does Not Make It True!

No. 51
Recorded - Fall 1996
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The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
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  • @bornifacesikaluba9259
    @bornifacesikaluba92593 ай бұрын

    am in the office right now and my colleagues wondering why am clapping so hard, the testimony of that basketball guy almost had me in tears, its only JESUS man.......Thanks cliff for these videos

  • @SeekYe1st

    @SeekYe1st

    3 ай бұрын

    Amen it was a great testimony! Cliff has and is still doing great work on the college campuses!

  • @almightyfitness7927

    @almightyfitness7927

    3 ай бұрын

    This touched my heart brother thanks for sharing!

  • @justingary5322

    @justingary5322

    3 ай бұрын

    Awesome 😎. It's cool seeing a younger Cliffe Knechtle from the 1990's-early 2000's answering questions and speaking FACTS 🔥 🤣. I like the Muslim guy asking questions about God and Christ but he's talking from a perspective of Islam being true which we all know it isn't as Islam spread through lies and violence through warfare and slavery 🗡️. I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost week brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant

  • @justingary5322

    @justingary5322

    3 ай бұрын

    Al the young basketball player's testimony was cool. He's likely a grown Christian man if he's alive and well now Lord willing. It's cool seeing a younger Cliffe Knechtle from the 1990's-early 2000's answering questions and speaking FACTS 🔥 🤣. I like the Muslim guy asking questions about God and Christ but he's talking from a perspective of Islam being true which we all know it isn't as Islam spread through lies and violence through warfare and slavery 🗡️. I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost week brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

  • @thomas.thomas
    @thomas.thomas3 ай бұрын

    First guy is so ignorant and he can't even see it, his very questions are already loaded and framed. Props to Cliffe for recognizing that and calling it out

  • @benliftin4awhile

    @benliftin4awhile

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep, pure arrogance. He’s asking with 0 integrity in tying to hearing an answer.

  • @justingary5322

    @justingary5322

    3 ай бұрын

    It's cool seeing a younger Cliffe Knechtle from the 1990's-early 2000's answering questions and speaking FACTS 🔥 🤣. I like the Muslim guy asking questions about God and Christ but he's talking from a perspective of Islam being true which we all know it isn't as Islam spread through lies and violence through warfare and slavery 🗡️. I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost week brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant

  • @hayzeus877

    @hayzeus877

    2 ай бұрын

    I hope God opened his eyes to the truth

  • @joachim595

    @joachim595

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, and old guys who can’t listen is so yucky. Seriously, grow up and learn to let someone talk.

  • @ItsssMeRico
    @ItsssMeRico3 ай бұрын

    Everyone stop what you’re doing Cliffe dropped another banger!

  • @jontatman
    @jontatman3 ай бұрын

    Ready for another Ask Cliffe Banger!! Praise the Lord for He is good

  • @benwtf5539
    @benwtf55393 ай бұрын

    "Recorded - Fall 1996" I wasn't even born back then!

  • @VainFriggus

    @VainFriggus

    3 ай бұрын

    I was born in the fall of 96 (:

  • @alexlugibihl2915

    @alexlugibihl2915

    3 ай бұрын

    I was 1, wild

  • @davidplummer2473

    @davidplummer2473

    3 ай бұрын

    I was 32.

  • @JuanRosales-dy8by

    @JuanRosales-dy8by

    3 ай бұрын

    I was -5

  • @taylorangel7700

    @taylorangel7700

    3 ай бұрын

    I was 1

  • @starkiddo83
    @starkiddo833 ай бұрын

    That first guy was making my eye twitch. :D

  • @Starwolfe64

    @Starwolfe64

    Ай бұрын

    “WHAT’S THAT???”

  • @deesymons8545
    @deesymons85453 ай бұрын

    Amen Please continue to pray for my grandkids who live with me and myself for healing and protection and safety Thank you

  • @landonrollins
    @landonrollins3 ай бұрын

    Glory be to Jesus our God in Heaven Amen 💯 🙏🏻

  • @sheriA7082
    @sheriA70823 ай бұрын

    I would love to see how Al is doing today. I pray he is doing well and still giving his wonderful testimony.

  • @05grandmarquis

    @05grandmarquis

    3 ай бұрын

    I just googled him, hes assistant basketball coach at Presbyterian College. Search "Al Coleman basketball" and youll find him

  • @rodneyewaldner9381
    @rodneyewaldner93813 ай бұрын

    AL’s testimony was so awesome and uplifting! WOW what a great way to start the day, very inspired now to pursue God, going to study my Bible!

  • @Shermoose
    @Shermoose3 ай бұрын

    This was fantastic. Love the older videos, just as applicable, with a more receptive and respectful audience.

  • @VainFriggus
    @VainFriggus3 ай бұрын

    Christ is King

  • @ctempleton3

    @ctempleton3

    3 ай бұрын

    Jesus is Lord

  • @VainFriggus

    @VainFriggus

    3 ай бұрын

    @@shaziasiddiqui6769 John 1:1-5, 14 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.” [14] “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

  • @dperkins01

    @dperkins01

    3 ай бұрын

    That's an assertion.

  • @briarpatchson3039

    @briarpatchson3039

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@dperkins01 JOSHUA WORSHIP HIM🕎 ✡️Joshua 5:14 “And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?”

  • @justingary5322

    @justingary5322

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly 💯. It's cool seeing a younger Cliffe Knechtle from the 1990's-early 2000's answering questions and speaking FACTS 🔥 🤣. I like the Muslim guy asking questions about God and Christ but he's talking from a perspective of Islam being true which we all know it isn't as Islam spread through lies and violence through warfare and slavery 🗡️. I was raised Christian but I became an agnostic and atheist at 17-19 years old until I started studying religious beliefs, Christianity and Apologetics Happy Pentecost week brothers, sisters and everyone else He's Alive forevermore AMEN 🙏 ❤️ 👏. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant

  • @erikramos8537
    @erikramos85373 ай бұрын

    Beautiful. My favorite video yet. I’ve watched and played back almost all of them. Also with Francis Chan. God Bless you all.

  • @cjtrouble
    @cjtrouble3 ай бұрын

    BABE CLIFFE IS TALKING TURNS THE KIDS DOWN AND SWITCH OFF THE TV!

  • @rmlrobl
    @rmlrobl3 ай бұрын

    To the first speaker, it is quite obvious that he starts off with a false premise. It is not the same God. Not in any way shape or form. Muhammad's very first prophecy was that he was demon possessed or gin if you prefer. Either way his testimony of who he is is not consistent with either the god of Moses the god of David or the god of the apostles.

  • @titOstEw

    @titOstEw

    3 ай бұрын

    then proceeds to sit and lite a cigarette 🤦‍♀️

  • @Talon19

    @Talon19

    3 ай бұрын

    Same Abrahamic God; same God of the Old Testament is believed by Jews, Christians, Muslims, Mormons, and more.

  • @rmlrobl

    @rmlrobl

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Talon19 I do believe that is called ignorance. No they are not the same. Jews and Christians were the same God, Yahweh. The author of the Quran knew nothing and the only prophecy Muhammad seemed to have right with us first.

  • @rmlrobl

    @rmlrobl

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Talon19 further, no Mormon they're polytheistic. They also believe men can become gods. Do yourself a favor and do some actual reading and research before you make comments like this. But thank you for trying.

  • @Talon19

    @Talon19

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rmlrobl All abrahamic religions believe in the god of the Old Testament.

  • @deb681
    @deb6813 ай бұрын

    The Old Testament prophesied of the coming of Christ way before He came

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    2 ай бұрын

    You sure about that? Have you read the Dead Sea Scrolls?

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist8963 ай бұрын

    We worship God not an ethnicity. Luke 10:27💕

  • @laserxman779sports
    @laserxman779sports3 ай бұрын

    Cliffs answers are so unusual but they work and the people who are asking the questions don’t stop to think about what he’s saying Mark 10:45

  • @black-cross
    @black-cross3 ай бұрын

    great testimony! when i see people thanking others for the award they received, or the money which granted them a new house and car for their family, i feel nothing. but thanking Jesus for changing your life, true inward change, tears drop.

  • @BrannyBonks
    @BrannyBonks3 ай бұрын

    Nice update on the outro Stewart & the team! Keep doing God’s work!

  • @mrlavelmann
    @mrlavelmann3 ай бұрын

    Love these classics! What an awesome testimony too

  • @curiousgeorge555
    @curiousgeorge5553 ай бұрын

    Loved that testimony from Al! Praise God.

  • @aliciasearvogel7933
    @aliciasearvogel79332 ай бұрын

    My favorite Cliffe K video so far!!!! I love that he’s not in an echo chamber preaching to the choir! I love how he finished this video: I don’t know all the answers. I’m just the mailman. Reciting John 3:16!!! Wow!!!🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @BeastaBoots
    @BeastaBoots3 ай бұрын

    I enjoy seeing his body language 😅 He keeps me engaged in what he is saying with it👍

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    2 ай бұрын

    Cons always have game.

  • @lea-marikriel4461
    @lea-marikriel44613 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your amazing testimony!

  • @THEMUSCLEEXPERIENCE
    @THEMUSCLEEXPERIENCE2 ай бұрын

    I love cliffe so much he really connects with these kids, hes nit tgere to CHANGE their minds, hes there to reaspn with them and help them unferstand more which is all anyone can do

  • @6ohpowertower612
    @6ohpowertower6123 ай бұрын

    Total smackdown Cliffe. Great job sir.

  • @timothyjonathan8301
    @timothyjonathan83012 ай бұрын

    Great Testimony. Great work Cliffe

  • @projecTmustardseed777
    @projecTmustardseed7773 ай бұрын

    Cliffs, emotional control is admirable to say the least

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    2 ай бұрын

    What? The man is a whiny baby anytime someone presses him on reality vs his mythology.

  • @Gorpmeat

    @Gorpmeat

    Ай бұрын

    @@pissedoffdemocrat4940 Today I learned laying out evidence and logic in a clear and concise way is “whining”.

  • @benjiboicreates

    @benjiboicreates

    Ай бұрын

    ​@pissedoffdemocrat4940 today I found a lost soul I'll pray for you ❤❤

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    Ай бұрын

    @@benjiboicreates Read a science book instead.

  • @benjiboicreates

    @benjiboicreates

    Ай бұрын

    @@pissedoffdemocrat4940 just learn somthing buddy 💀❤️

  • @JuneGraceOAbina
    @JuneGraceOAbina2 ай бұрын

    This is my favorite episode,,Cliffe your the best

  • @matthewkoukios3437
    @matthewkoukios34373 ай бұрын

    Those guys at the end they don't care about the truth and they know full well that Cliff didn't say that all Jews were going to hell they just said that so they could provoke him intentionally and pull a ah I gotcha trick and trick him into saying the wrong things I like Cliff and he speaks the truth about God and not once did he exclude anyone in his speech about resurrection and eternal life for others he even said that who are we to judge who does or doesn't go to heaven that's ultimately God's decision not us that's his judgment it's only for God to decide

  • @Talon19

    @Talon19

    3 ай бұрын

    Amazing how judgemental Christians can sound.

  • @hopeoflife-nj7zj
    @hopeoflife-nj7zj3 ай бұрын

    God bless you brother ❤❤❤

  • @MarathonManny
    @MarathonManny3 ай бұрын

    Brothers testimony wow ❤

  • @Raven-nt8ev
    @Raven-nt8ev3 ай бұрын

    Glory to Jesus 🔥✝️🔥 From 🇨🇵

  • @Robert-Rojas
    @Robert-Rojas3 ай бұрын

    Where is that basketball guy now?? I would love to know. He seemed so genuine and honest and real.

  • @lgdasilva5989

    @lgdasilva5989

    2 ай бұрын

    My biggest guess is he’s still a follower of Christ, has a family and a career he enjoys. I hope at least that is the case.

  • @godwinolawore8440
    @godwinolawore84403 ай бұрын

    THAT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST TESTIMONY'S

  • @mioninja231
    @mioninja2313 ай бұрын

    Cliffe looks so young here

  • @RG-qn2qm
    @RG-qn2qm3 ай бұрын

    Lovin it from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦

  • @BhanuPrakash-rv5fg
    @BhanuPrakash-rv5fg3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Brother.

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever3 ай бұрын

    Christianity is not true because I believe it, I believe Christianity because it's true!

  • @Azamat421

    @Azamat421

    3 ай бұрын

    No proof though

  • @antm454

    @antm454

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Azamat421is there really proof of anything though? what’s the proof we’re living right now

  • @miniroseyo

    @miniroseyo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Azamat421 read matthew mark luke and john as cliffe would say. then decide for yourself

  • @gingercake0907

    @gingercake0907

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Azamat421 You have the same evidence Christians have, you just refuse to accept it, so that is not proof that God doesn’t exist. God’s existence is not predicted on whether you believe He exists. He exists in spite of your lack of exercising faith in Him. “ For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse. “ Roman 1:20.

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    2 ай бұрын

    @@gingercake0907 It's a shame that grown modern humans can be so deceived as to believe something so fantastical especially on a university campus. Knowledge is the opposite of belief. Belief has no basis in reality. When I was a child I believed all sorts of things. But, then I became a man and stopped playing with toys.

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist8963 ай бұрын

    24:59 Even the demons believe but they don’t have faith in Jesus. Just because a person thinks Jesus is real like Muslims or follows “the idea” of Christ meaning they try to be good like Him, doesn’t mean you go to heaven. You have to place your faith in Jesus for eternal life, that’s what the bible teaches, and whom God has mercy upon is His business no one else, not me not Cliffe, no one. Romans 9:15-16 “For He says to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion. So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy”

  • @whatshappeningdracut2292
    @whatshappeningdracut22923 ай бұрын

    The basketball player was powerful testimony!

  • @EnumaElish200

    @EnumaElish200

    3 ай бұрын

    Testimony is not evidence

  • @andrewerath5585

    @andrewerath5585

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@EnumaElish200 how is testimony not evidence? Do you even know what evidence is?

  • @curiousgeorge555

    @curiousgeorge555

    3 ай бұрын

    @@EnumaElish200 Yes, it is evidence.

  • @EnumaElish200

    @EnumaElish200

    3 ай бұрын

    @@curiousgeorge555 an individuals testimony is not evidence of a Gods existence. Otherwise we would have evidence for the existence of thousands of Gods.

  • @curiousgeorge555

    @curiousgeorge555

    3 ай бұрын

    @@EnumaElish200 If you asked God to show Himself to you by "blowing out" a candle (with wind) every 6.7 minutes for 11 days straight and it happened like clockwork, would you assume it happened by chance or that God did it?

  • @all_bets_on_Ganesh
    @all_bets_on_Ganesh3 ай бұрын

    He is right. The only thing membership numbers decide is whether you are in a religion or a cult.

  • @Talon19

    @Talon19

    3 ай бұрын

    This exactly! Most cults and religions are incredibly similar.

  • @sethowusuantwi
    @sethowusuantwi3 ай бұрын

    Is always delight to listen to Cliff

  • @theignorantcatholic
    @theignorantcatholic3 ай бұрын

    You're such a legend mate. The most respectable street preacher I've ever seen. Beautiful. btw, I am a convert from Evangelicalism. I am not ignorant of the objections to Catholicism. But I still love you and your work. God bless mate.

  • @yellowlenny
    @yellowlenny3 ай бұрын

    HONEY NEW CLIFFE VIDEO IS OUT

  • @aliciap23
    @aliciap233 ай бұрын

    “I’m not the authority, I’m just the mailman delivering the mail.” 🙌🏽

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    2 ай бұрын

    Spreader of lies. Nothing to be proud of. Cliff is admitting that he is just parroting what he's been taught without thought or reason.

  • @MariaJoseOrtegaMoronta-tr9lz

    @MariaJoseOrtegaMoronta-tr9lz

    17 күн бұрын

    @@pissedoffdemocrat4940 The Bible states that God in the New Testament sent his only son to die on the cross for our sins, your just saying is not true but what is the evidence that is not true?

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    16 күн бұрын

    @@MariaJoseOrtegaMoronta-tr9lz I have tons of evidence that the Bible is not true: The Exodus did not happen, the conquests of Joshua did not happen, the creation myth was stolen from the Sumerians and did not happen, Abraham did not exist, Moses did not exist, the god of IsraEL is a Canaanite deity. "The Bible states" is not a factor in what is real or not real. I was a Christian for 40 years. It took me years of pain and suffering to escape my childhood indoctrination. I can help you escape if you want to.

  • @tinastarrie74
    @tinastarrie743 ай бұрын

    'It is appointed to man once to die, and after this the judgement.' Hebrews 9:27. No reincarnation.

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    @pissedoffdemocrat4940

    2 ай бұрын

    Same as Egyptian philosophy. Is Amon Ra real too?

  • @tinastarrie74

    @tinastarrie74

    2 ай бұрын

    @@pissedoffdemocrat4940 amon ra is demonic. We - including you - are created to be in a loving relationship with the One True Living God, but demons deceive in order to divert our attention away from the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

  • @IBenZik
    @IBenZik3 ай бұрын

    Sad to see this Muslim asking the same question 4 times up to "3:36" expecting a different answer.

  • @ranyadhellecabahug845

    @ranyadhellecabahug845

    3 ай бұрын

    I know, thought I was the only one thinking that while he kept saying YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION. It was answered,just not the answer he was expecting.

  • @nikkisigmon8090

    @nikkisigmon8090

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly. He demands logic but can't even break his own question down so that other people understand him. He is likely referencing something in the quran but doesnt know enough to actually use it.

  • @IBenZik

    @IBenZik

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ranyadhellecabahug845 The Muslim was trying to avoid the fact that Islam says Jesus was a prophet not God which means Jesus is a liar and how can a liar be a good prophet.

  • @TR13400

    @TR13400

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@IBenZik Suprised he didnt say it was corrupted or changed lol

  • @josephthomasmusic

    @josephthomasmusic

    3 ай бұрын

    I think the issue was that firstly he was assuming that God sent Muhammad, therefore Islam must be true, and I think Cliffe didn't recognize that until late in the conversation. I think to save time, he probably should have said earlier on, "Sir, it sounds like what you're saying to me is that Islam is true because God sent Muhammad AND Jesus. I don't agree with that. If Jesus is really God, then God did not also send Muhammad. God only sent Jesus. That's what Christianity claims. So I think it's very important that you learn to understand the difference between my beliefs and your beliefs." I think the elderly gentleman who was a Muslim was so used to being inside of his own bubble around other muslims, that this was the first time that he ever heard someone say that God did not send Muhammad. He had no idea how to handle it which is why he walked away from the conversation. That's what I suspect was the issue. I think if Cliffe recognized what the man was saying earlier on, then the man would have been able to stay longer and hear more about Cliffe's perspective.

  • @CNich90
    @CNich903 ай бұрын

    Al was an absolute sweet heart, God bless that man!

  • @emmanuelbentum-siripi3479
    @emmanuelbentum-siripi34793 ай бұрын

    God bless you, Cliffe and Stuart. Please can you help me with the thinking around Anais and Saphira? What is their situation when it to where they are going to spend eternity? It's okay if you don't know. They became Christians and lied one time against the Holy Spirit and the next minute they are died. Thank you so much and God continue to bless and your ministry.

  • @JoelAddo-mo6wd
    @JoelAddo-mo6wd3 ай бұрын

    This episode 🔥🔥

  • @sofia...a1148
    @sofia...a11483 ай бұрын

    Because not all messengers are from God. There are a lot of false prophets.

  • @kspades2530
    @kspades25303 ай бұрын

    Great testimony from Al.

  • @arri9764
    @arri97643 ай бұрын

    New classic😮‍💨😮‍💨✝️

  • @thomasnagle501
    @thomasnagle50117 күн бұрын

    Cliff i don't know how you do it, listening to all this foolishness. I admire your knowledge and strength.

  • @PepasGarage
    @PepasGarage3 ай бұрын

    Comb over Cliff just hits differently sometimes than curly hair Cliff.

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist8963 ай бұрын

    Jesus man, amen! 1 John 3:7-9

  • @curiousgeorge555
    @curiousgeorge5553 ай бұрын

    Cliffe Rocks!

  • @MajorasThirdEye
    @MajorasThirdEye3 ай бұрын

    Cristo es Rey 🙏✝️

  • @EmunStudio
    @EmunStudio3 ай бұрын

    Share that testimony!!!!

  • @liliansalazar4203
    @liliansalazar42033 ай бұрын

    i wanna see him come to las vegas, unlv

  • @stepone6159
    @stepone61593 ай бұрын

    I have watched quite a number of Cliff's videos. It puzzles me that I have yet to hear him call sin, sin, and therefore the reason Jesus had to go to the cross to pay our sin debt in full.

  • @DavidSamuel-gz7cf
    @DavidSamuel-gz7cf2 ай бұрын

    5:28 it's really dangerous to think because many people believe something then it must be truth. Muhammad vehemently disagreed with Jesus about the most fundamental fact about who He is. He is God. He claimed so. His disciples heard Him claim so. Even His haters heard Him claim so. Then He proved He was not nuts by rising from the dead. Muhammad then comes five hundred years later to say "hey God sent me and He said I should tell y'all that Jesus is not God". Yes, many people believe this man but that's the unfortunate issue, not evidence that he must have been speaking truth

  • @Kuykendall_7557
    @Kuykendall_75572 ай бұрын

    People only think within the limits of things that we have discovered on earth, so if we are discussing someone or something that is not of this world, we must proceed with the understanding that things outside of this world do not live by those same rules. Which would suggest that they are able to operate differently than we do. Especially considering the fact that we are talking about someone who made the universe with the structural concept and design of mathematics and physics that we discovered.

  • @OrchidDreamsAbout...
    @OrchidDreamsAbout...3 ай бұрын

    Speaking the truth, amen.

  • @SjonnyBB
    @SjonnyBB2 ай бұрын

    How many clips have you guys actually filmed in the past? This stuff is amazing! May God be with both of you through this whole journey

  • @willhodgdon228
    @willhodgdon2283 ай бұрын

    Cliffe the goat

  • @NewCreationInChrist896

    @NewCreationInChrist896

    3 ай бұрын

    Only Jesus is the greatest of all time, ONLY Jesus!

  • @MagicDoctryy
    @MagicDoctryy3 ай бұрын

    Quick questions... Which bible version is the most accurate to the original greek texts that you talk about a lot in your videos? Which bible version do you usually use Cliffe and Stuart? I'm still new to following Jesus and would love to know whole heartedly. I bounce around between different versions and just want to know I'm getting the most accurate text. God bless.

  • @lollalofi3933

    @lollalofi3933

    3 ай бұрын

    The most accurate translations are the ESV, CSB and the KJV. I personally use the esv the most. However i still like to compare it to the other translations for accuracy

  • @MagicDoctryy

    @MagicDoctryy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@lollalofi3933 I appreciate your comment. 🙏🏼

  • @Sim_man

    @Sim_man

    3 ай бұрын

    I recommend the ESV and NLT. I use the NLT for devotional reading and the ESV for Bible study. I also recommend the Logos Bible software, it’s a really nice tool for Bible study

  • @fuemoua8345
    @fuemoua83452 ай бұрын

    no reincarnation, no one was born with treasure from the past we have to work to feed ourselves, not even any king was born or reincarnate to this life.

  • @mimmiekgaditse1517
    @mimmiekgaditse1517Ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 his first question where he assumed Muhammad is from God and was flabbergasted when the opposite was suggested.

  • @harley6659
    @harley66593 ай бұрын

    “I think Christianity is logical but I FEEL that reincarnation is true therefore Christianity is not true but it’s LOGICAL.” Wild train of thought there

  • @briarpatchson3039

    @briarpatchson3039

    3 ай бұрын

    Christianity is based on evidence, NOT imagination. Over 6,000 Biblical manuscripts countless articles from archeology.

  • @Azamat421

    @Azamat421

    3 ай бұрын

    Forgerys

  • @margiecarol2944

    @margiecarol2944

    Ай бұрын

    @@harley6659 Is that "your" view? I am not sure if you are quoting someone else or that's your view.

  • @joshuatkhorik4967
    @joshuatkhorik49679 күн бұрын

    Anyone got the link to the full video?

  • @MichelleHaley810
    @MichelleHaley810Ай бұрын

    at 17:00 omgosh that basketball man of God... ...Jesus Man! cry cry cry

  • @konradcunningham8633
    @konradcunningham86333 ай бұрын

    is that vincent van gough in the background at 12:51

  • @mimixanna

    @mimixanna

    21 күн бұрын

    please 😂 but I do see what you mean haha

  • @sync3680
    @sync36803 ай бұрын

    Cliffe makes me remember John Wycliffe.

  • @church_auditor21
    @church_auditor213 ай бұрын

    This was a crazy crowd

  • @Asantewarrior
    @AsantewarriorАй бұрын

    For those wondering, the bible says that everyone will be judged according to the light revealed to them. The light refers to truth. So if they never knew the name of jesus they wont have to worry about that standard being applied to them. Think of old testament people as a biblical example. In pracftical terms this applies to people from remote countries or places where sharing the gospel is banned or hindered to extreme measures. Such individuals will be judged by their response to God in their environment (think morality to an extent, creation...).

  • @Asantewarrior

    @Asantewarrior

    Ай бұрын

    This is my understanding btw. We'll be judged according to how we respond to what was revealed to us/evidence/truth presented to us

  • @Messiah-qc8xp
    @Messiah-qc8xp2 ай бұрын

    Great

  • @angeladavis9264
    @angeladavis92642 ай бұрын

    Amen amen

  • @Victoriacaresuk
    @VictoriacaresukАй бұрын

    Love xliff but the Lovely you man AL who explained his love for Christ and how it maked him a better man x

  • @jessicarainsford7609
    @jessicarainsford76093 ай бұрын

    I’m so baffled by the first guy. Cliffe answered his question straight so. Many. Times. Very frustrating he couldn’t understand that. I hope he’s met Jesus now

  • @user-wq4qh3rp2e
    @user-wq4qh3rp2e3 ай бұрын

    Was give me an answer on tv?

  • @3amthoughts967
    @3amthoughts9673 ай бұрын

    20:06 Amen!!!

  • @Derek__bradford
    @Derek__bradford3 ай бұрын

    Please come to Santa Monica Commhnity College

  • @jjxd3n_
    @jjxd3n_24 күн бұрын

    The guy isn’t even letting Cliffe speak

  • @sync3680
    @sync36803 ай бұрын

    When will you come to Brazil?

  • @Ricky-pz8tm
    @Ricky-pz8tm3 ай бұрын

    What about these testimonial segments these days cliff?

  • @curtisjordan9210
    @curtisjordan92103 ай бұрын

    He says born of water and spirit referring to baptism. Why did he change the language?

  • @dentonhahn2907

    @dentonhahn2907

    3 ай бұрын

    Born of water is natural birth, spiritual birth is born of the spirit. Baptism is not an act that saves it is an outward showing of the inward commitment to follow Christ.

  • @gwockamol
    @gwockamol3 ай бұрын

    Hello everyone! I’m a relatively new follower of Christ, I was not raised in the faith, and no one in my friend group made much of an impression on me with their religions, so I’m pretty unfamiliar with what’s appropriate and what isn’t… I’m just curious, do y’all this itd be appropriate for me to watch these videos with my 9 year old daughter? I, of course, will watch the video first to be sure it’s appropriate, as far as cursing and lewd questions are involved. But I fear I may be pushing something on her that is not age appropriate. Thank you! Sorry if I’m being unclear 😖

  • @enotstehw
    @enotstehw3 ай бұрын

    And you know folks they will never answer my questions? They run like Hel when confronted by an adult .

  • @pissedoffdemocrat4940
    @pissedoffdemocrat49402 ай бұрын

    One does not need to believe in an Iron Age myth to be a good person. It is time for mankind to put away childish things.

  • @3amthoughts967
    @3amthoughts9673 ай бұрын

    16:33 🙏🏽 Like if you are also spiritually alive ❤

  • @nali8294
    @nali82943 ай бұрын

    What is Al's full name?

  • @davidplummer2473
    @davidplummer24733 ай бұрын

    Problem of suffering... Can anybody tell me what is so special about us that we SHOULDN'T suffer?

  • @bonnie43uk

    @bonnie43uk

    3 ай бұрын

    sounds to me as if you don't understand the problem of suffering david, the vast majority of pastors and theologians realize that if God is "all loving", it makes no sense that innocent babies for example endure horrific suffering.

  • @robmc120

    @robmc120

    3 ай бұрын

    @@bonnie43uk Oh tom! You HAVE no moral foundation why "loving" & "innocent" are good and "horrific suffering" is bad, just your subjective, fallible opinion. So nothing is right/wrong in your godless worldview of an unguided/blind/pitiless/indifferent universe (R.Dawkins) born from chance/chaos/nothingness/unknown/stardust (C.Sagan/L.Krauss) where a rock in the road is as valuable as a person, made from the same theoretical primordial material..... But since you refelct the image of God's morality, you inconsistently declare them good/ evil, it logically assumes good exists, necessitating moral law to differentiate good/evil, necessitating moral law giver (the triune God)

  • @davidplummer2473

    @davidplummer2473

    3 ай бұрын

    Having horrible mood disorders to this day and almost eating a gun 30 years ago means I'm familiar with suffering to some degree, so don't try that with me. I am not saying suffering isn't bad, never mind the philosophers, even the God you dismiss cried at Lazarus' grave. But the question remains, what is so special about humanity -- elderly or infant -- that we should not suffer? You're dodging me yet again by hiding behind the smokescreen of an emotional argument. If God exists, there is a reason for suffering in this broken world AND IT WILL BE MADE UP FOR in the next world -- times infinity. But if you're right that there is no God, then there is NO reason for ANYTHING and therefore no point in complaining about the suffering of babies and no hope for them when they die.

  • @bonnie43uk

    @bonnie43uk

    3 ай бұрын

    @@davidplummer2473 As i see it david, people invent Gods to try and explain things like "why is there suffering" "what is the meaning of life" and lots of other questions that life throws up. There is a long history of mankind worshipping all kinds of Gods in every corner of the world. If you lived on the continent of America a few thousand years ago, you would believe in the Mayan God, or the Aztec God, or any of the North American Indian Gods, you would have no concept whatsoever of the Abrahamic God. I happen to have been born in the 20th century in a time when science had the answers to lots of life's questions, and even in my short 65 years on this planet, scientific discoveries have answered even more of life's questions. We are social creatures, it's in our best interest to cooperate and get along with eachother. I'm certainly not dodging your question. Do you need a God to tell you that if someone hits you on the head with a rock, that it's a bad thing, or can we work that out for ourselves? Even a dog will yelp in pain and realize that it's suffering and it's not good.

  • @ronb8714
    @ronb87143 ай бұрын

    By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, god would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them. Who would say this God or Satan

  • @paulwilfridhunt
    @paulwilfridhunt3 ай бұрын

    In consideration of predestination there are some things we do know. Firstly we know it exists because it’s mentioned in the Bible. Therefore God wants us to know of its existence. But why does predestination exist? Why does God predestinate some and not others. But as we know that God knows all things we also know that He knows those who will be faithful to Him. And He knows this before He creates them. If God is to choose those whom He will predestinate, will God choose those whom He knows lack the wherewithal to be faithful to Him, or will He choose those whom He know will be faithful? Surely God chooses those whom He knows will be faithful. Therefore we are compelled to assume that God is predestinating those whom He knows will be faithful to Him. God chooses these ones knowing that they will repent of their own free will, if He gives them a life that makes repentance possible. However if God knows that a soul will not repent He does not orchestrate the life of that individual to be brought to a place of perfect repentance, because He knows that, that soul, would never repent, hence He does not predestinate them. And whilst God is predestinating, nevertheless He does not predestinate unless He knows that souls will repent of their own free will. God does not force repentance upon us. But as we as believers thoughtfully consider our lives we see and understand, if we are honest with ourselves, that without the life we were given that led us to repentance, we would not have repented. Therefore we can say that the orchestrated life by God from birth is necessary, because without it we would not have repented, hence the existence and need for predestination. Perhaps without the Calvinists erroneous understanding of predestination this aforementioned explanation would be not be necessary. But their view is a dreadful view which they arrived at by not realising the necessity for predestination, for without it souls would not be saved. Hence its existence. Whereas the Calvinists believe God arbitrarily chooses but for no particular reason. And their view makes them very lucky and proud that they lucked in and others lucked out.

  • @jeetpatel6087
    @jeetpatel608711 күн бұрын

    When Jesus came there were more non believers than believers And everything else is following a religion or practice. When you follow Jesus you are maintaining a relationship with God in the flesh not following rituals and customs that move lips but keep hearts further away God

  • @user-df2ml4ro9v
    @user-df2ml4ro9v2 ай бұрын

    Hebrews 9:27, Revelation 20:11-15,

  • @Dewaarheid777
    @Dewaarheid7773 ай бұрын

    Hey cliff, I have a question, how come you guys say god has 4 responses to prayer. No, slow, growth and go. We read in the Bible that we as disciples are to do the same things as Jesus even more it goes on! Yet Jesus had no unanswered prayers if it came down to a request or wisdom. He even says to his father before raising Lazarus: thank you for always doing what i ask. We can also take james into account who says that if we haven’t hear an answer on our prayer we are praying simply wrong. Then there are verses as why a good god would give you a stone if you ask for a fish. So why would god let you suffer if you ask for redemption. Besides James says that god is doesn’t let us suffer ! I think miracles,prayer and communication with god should follow us everywhere we go just like it did with Jesus. It’s just that we are so poor in understanding the scriptures. This is my take on the matter though I’d love to hear how you think of it!

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