0:49 Blood DK 1:40 Frost DK 2:23 Unholy DK 3:16 Havoc DH 3:56 Vengence DH 4:48 Boomy Dru 5:51: Kitty Dru 6:56 Bear Dru 7:26 Tree Dru 8:13 Aug Evoker 9:02 Dev Evoker 9:39 Pres Evoker 10:35 BM Hunter 11:10 Low IQ Hunter 11:39 surv Hunter 12:09 "ARCAME" Mage 12:59 Fire Mage 13:32 Frost Mage 14:08 Brewmaster Monk 14:49 Mistweaver Monk 15:24 Venruki Monk 15:53 'That guy who yells a lot but we like him anyway" Paladin 16:32 Prot Pally 17:07 chad Paladin 17:47 Disc Prist 18:18 Holy Priest 18:48 Anboni enjoyers 19:05 Assassination Rogue 19:36 Everyone just copies Trills loadout cuz he's THAT guy. 20:29 Pikaboo even when its non-meta. 20:59 Meatball Shaman 21:46 F tier Hero Shaman 22:22 The 'Sterge 23:14 Maldiva 23:45 Demonology Lock 24:15 Big bolter boy 24:59 Bajheera 25:26 Bahjeera again but with two swords 25:58 Swifty's pinky
@Levelity
Ай бұрын
Cries in "F tier hero shaman", made me laugh but also made me realize it's a lost cause. They just don't care about enhance.
@George-iy5lq
Ай бұрын
Legend 😂
@fardeco998
Ай бұрын
Frost mage is 13:32, thank you tho❤
@ARGOS-THOR
Ай бұрын
@@fardeco998 thank you
@plague6174
Ай бұрын
Nobody in their right mind "likes" Crusaders 💀 bro is a literal creature. Tons of better hpals out there too who you could've made that tribute to. Swifty's Pinky made me rofl irl pretty good though 🤣🤣
@EvebrАй бұрын
Sir Supatease, thank you for all the content.
@steadychill5775Ай бұрын
You can always count on supa to give the accurate info. Love this guy.
@bosssavage3325Ай бұрын
I hate all “has a X% chance to” stuff. Tie that % chance to STATS% so we can build around the % chance effects. “Has a chance equal to your Crit chance” “Has a chance equal to your Mastery” “Has a chance equal to your haste” START UTILIZING STATS MORE
@endofexistence2149
Ай бұрын
Im going to assume you didnt play season 1 dragonflight because your comment screams it. The reason these set bonuses are boring as fuck is because they want gather data on hero talents and the new talent changes that are happening right now. its a lot easier to start off a season with minor tier bonuses while seeing how things shake up with new systems then to start with over complicated crazy tier bonuses and having to do a bunch of nerfs. Either way the wow community is gonna complain because thats the only IO score they keep maxed out For the logical and reasonable people who pay attention to dev trends S2 of the expansion should have better bonuses that do more class and spec things. I say this as someone who honestly thinks stats in wow are boring without things like armor pen, expertise, and other bonuses.
@bosssavage3325
Ай бұрын
@@endofexistence2149 I did. Never ever said anything about set bonuses in my comment. I’m talking about everything in general like talents, proc effects etc. They need to utilize stats more like I said in my comment.
@KurnheliosАй бұрын
I'm really glad they're boring, some damage and haste around minions sounds so much better than "Death Coil and Epidemic damage increased by 10%. Casting Death Coil or Epidemic grants a stack of Master of Death, up to 20. Dark Transformation consumes Master of Death and grants 1% Mastery for each stack for 25 sec. Army of the Dead/Raise Abomination grants 20 stacks of Master of Death. When Death Coil or Epidemic consumes Sudden Doom gain 1 extra stacks of Master of Death and 10% Mastery for 6 sec." Really going to enjoy not needing a weakaura to track that BS
@manthe3711
Ай бұрын
Meanwhile, the Mistwevaer tier set from Dragonflight has been turned into a talent...I hate it so much.
@Gunship888
Ай бұрын
LOL
@alexmullins596Ай бұрын
For the pres evoker question: There was a video on alpha that a capstone on pres tree was altered and the 4 piece season 1 & 4 Living Flame proc was cooked into the talent tree. It honestly needed to be something baseline for pres.
@IPlayVideoGamesAndNothingElseАй бұрын
Love how hard capped assassinations damage is. Your dps is solely dependent on poison / bleed tic rate which will always leave assassin in the shadow of subtlety each and every time unless we get to single target a boss and don’t have to move around to just spam mutilate and envenom for like the 4th expansion in a row to be able to do damage outside of poisons and bleeds.
@chrisnessАй бұрын
Disappointed that disc priest tier looks so much better than holy priest
@allentheaverageoldjoeАй бұрын
Hoping Aug becomes viable again. It was really fun for about 5 minutes, and in fact, I'd like to see Enhance Shaman take on more of a similar support role. Really hoping they are able to make marks hunter at least an A tier spec. I've abandoned hunter altogether in S4 because once again theyve nerfed the one "thing" it had into the ground making BM and Surv just better. Still thinking it will be a lock for Disc/Fist mains but who knows what the next update will hold lol.
@KnasernАй бұрын
Cant wait til release. Yes some tier sets are weird, overall nothing big and fancy, but i get that when introducing the hero talents aswell.. It kinda takes over. I think its a better direction they are moving into. Having tier sets be more of a "meh" thing that just passivly increases some abilties and not alter your gamestyle. Thats what talents should be for.. So whenever they work on something gameplay wise..They just need to tune talents, not talents AND tier sets, and to top it off you might have your gameplay change for each tier with new sets etc. Better to just give a new talent, and give people the choice of going in a new direction, or stay with the old
@ItsBarnabyJonesАй бұрын
Let's get some CATA content going!!!
@vegetibilis2422Ай бұрын
Pressing fel dev is a death sentence sometimes you would only have 1 bounce back from death to 35% every 8 min and another 35% max hp from demon form. when you fell dev is for dps it hits 100k ish and when you send it its when the other team can easily 1 shot you so using it is a risk.
@derrickheadАй бұрын
ret season one was very similar to war within season one but i guess not too bad can always use flat damage i like things simple on set bonuses so win i guess
@Gunship888
Ай бұрын
I’m stoked for ret! Actual gameplay changes. Going to be fun I hope 🤞
@derrickhead
Ай бұрын
@Gunship888 yea I wanted Templar to be the one but looks like herald of the sun got our back 💪🏿
@drummerguy438Ай бұрын
First tier is usually just damage bumps. This isn’t anything terribly surprising. Still excited for TWW
@Blood_RoninАй бұрын
ShadowDance is for Sub only in the next xpac. So not sure the outlaw tier is as good as you think.
@Supatease
Ай бұрын
Pretty sure they're giving you more vanishes the compensate it's just a way to reduce keybinds.
@cw8Ай бұрын
I main a Moonkin, seeing the talents and set bonus, already don't feel like playing the exppack
@lokixd7363Ай бұрын
They actually fuckin HATE Rsham lol
@Heldensocke-nh9cj
Ай бұрын
Ele Aswell . Enhance seems okayish
@C.KrisztiánАй бұрын
Every spec20-25%(300%) shadow priest 1sec and 2% 😂, and how can USE devouring multiple to overleap if durration 10sec and dev CD 30 sec ?
@trito1203Ай бұрын
1 question. Does blizzard still keep the same nerf in dragon flight to TWW? For example, invigorating shadow dust vanish reduce all ability cd by 15/30s in dragon flight currently nerf by 50% in pvp only 7/15s. In TWW its only 10/20s in PVE, so does it also get nerf by 50% in pvp to only 5/10s? Or Blizzard remove all the nerf for new expansion?
@glndopangamer
Ай бұрын
Based on my experience, no. In Shadowlands this has been covered by Venruki, Supa and I think Cdew has talked about that also. Maybe that's not the case anymore, but up to Shadowlands, nerfs to abilities got carried out to the newest expansions instead of them just completely deleting the nerf and tunning the ability's output afterwards. eg. Glacial Spike and Comet Storm got nerfed in Legion and only unnerfed towards the end of Shadowlands.
@LevelityАй бұрын
Been playing the beta, and the ramp up on Enhance shaman is very long. I'm not sure if it takes more than a minute for use to acceptable damage or if after our second set of wolves come out, we start doing scary damage. I'll do further testing after I get a working details.
@Chakafuyo21
Ай бұрын
very long? stormbringer storm build. almost no ramp and you can have up to 6 wolves active most of the time.
@Levelity
Ай бұрын
@@Chakafuyo21 In PvP getting a second set of wolves is very long to me.
@tomselby24Ай бұрын
that boomkin 4 set is a dam shame lol
@ChrisAnalysisАй бұрын
Wait Chat, blizz said war within wont has their own PVP tier sets, so what is this then?? Can anyone explain pls..
@voidgrim9465Ай бұрын
Guys stop talking shit. They already explained their politics, first season would be mostly passive, second and third season would be more impactful
@Anxeas1Ай бұрын
Blood dk is awesome
@jackj7938Ай бұрын
"These make or break your class!" Eh. Not really. Season 1 tier sets are intentionally on the lackluster side.
@DanielPerez-hf7olАй бұрын
1st to coment 🎉🎉 hii guyyyss 🎉🎉
@tordbАй бұрын
bro is the Ben Shapiro of playing wow
@kharchieffАй бұрын
the ww monk one is weird. you want to weave tiger palms in to get bigger blackout kicks. but now you also want to not weave in tiger palms just so you can get big tigerpalms ? this is very weird
@Hitmaster8
Ай бұрын
pretty sure the 4pc set bonus wont change our rotation at all, you'll just passively get bigger tiger palms. The 2pc we may wanna play around a bit, like trying to have the buff up before using your highest burst abilities but I doubt it'll go much further than that
@canonize9241Ай бұрын
I wonder if a dev has responded yet on shaman forums. Last I saw they posted months back.
@Levelity
Ай бұрын
Yeah they said they were busy on other classes so they kinda just threw together Totemic real quick for resto/enhance cause they ran out of time on more important classes. That's not verbatim but it's essentially what I derived.
@canonize9241
Ай бұрын
@@Levelity Thanks for the heads up and oof.....
@dtbfit2836Ай бұрын
These do not make or break your class lol
@sdnw1840Ай бұрын
Good to know I won't have to worry about tier sets on my fistweaver. Ass tier.
@JMR_89Ай бұрын
Is 5:09 code for Blizz can't balance the hero talents/ teir bonus properly, so to make one of the big xpact selling features look good they just gutted tier bonuses. clowns in the comments be like AND THATS A GOOD THING
@OnelastgoTVАй бұрын
tigers palm hits like 3% of max health atm, 4 set isnt that good
@misos2290Ай бұрын
Unholy dk is locked into rider then
@Kurnhelios
Ай бұрын
The 8% damage to all minions is really only going to effect the horseman, you'll be able to summon everything as san'layn. The haste portion will be easy to stack as well outside of horseman. I'm not really that concerned honestly.
@vaylox09Ай бұрын
Do wow deva even play wow
@yomamapkmeАй бұрын
But frost can’t even do big one shot on the beta lmfaoooo. Their damage is so low with cool downs active on top of everyone HP is like 9000k+. U barely hit 500k, let alone 900k lmaooo
@emansfield2017Ай бұрын
Lmao, they really didn't have to add blade dance resetting. just another exanple of devs doing the most for their golden child classes.
@Blood_Ronin
Ай бұрын
100% This alone makes the tier set more engaging too when it comes to rotation. Most are just X% increase.
@emansfield2017
Ай бұрын
@@Blood_Ronin yeah why couldn't they have thought of something like this for other specs, but of course DH gets the more interactive tier set
@danielsmith2483
Ай бұрын
Every dev clearly playing DH lol
@trimethicon2719Ай бұрын
MM Hunter bonus = crap.
@OGEETOMOАй бұрын
Another boring and shit their set for Disc Priest might just not play the game. It's gotten ridiculous.
@misos2290
Ай бұрын
You're ridiculous, it's literally the point for s1 tier sets to be tame.
@OGEETOMO
Ай бұрын
@@misos2290 Bulljive.
@B-...Ай бұрын
Shadowbolt should be castable by moving. What is with Blizzard and Shadowbolt. No one likes it.
@garrett2111Ай бұрын
Demon hunters chaos strike 25% chance of resetting blade dance? What a shit show. Can they stop riding DHs so much? Nothin else got that kind of thing in their tier sets. Bliz is going downhill.
@angiepadilla6266Ай бұрын
Yay shadow priest tier set useless in pvp all with the simple use of a dispel
@NicholasLi10Ай бұрын
“Make or break your class” what a stupid take. These are season 1 tier sets and they have said they won’t do anything that would make thing’s complicated.
@pharmztkoАй бұрын
Boring set bonus like always.. blizzard can’t make anything cool. Just make the base spells do more damage and healing that’s a stupid tier set bonus.
@misos2290
Ай бұрын
They said specifically that they want s1 set bonus to be tame to give a chance for hero talents to shine.
@ivartheberserker9918
Ай бұрын
That’s what it should be like . Otherwise you end up with classes who don’t even use their tier because it’s garbage in PvP use your brain.
@Riddick608
Ай бұрын
Dont agree. Think its worse to have a set bonus build around one set of a talent build. In that case, they could just remove talents..
Пікірлер: 77
0:49 Blood DK 1:40 Frost DK 2:23 Unholy DK 3:16 Havoc DH 3:56 Vengence DH 4:48 Boomy Dru 5:51: Kitty Dru 6:56 Bear Dru 7:26 Tree Dru 8:13 Aug Evoker 9:02 Dev Evoker 9:39 Pres Evoker 10:35 BM Hunter 11:10 Low IQ Hunter 11:39 surv Hunter 12:09 "ARCAME" Mage 12:59 Fire Mage 13:32 Frost Mage 14:08 Brewmaster Monk 14:49 Mistweaver Monk 15:24 Venruki Monk 15:53 'That guy who yells a lot but we like him anyway" Paladin 16:32 Prot Pally 17:07 chad Paladin 17:47 Disc Prist 18:18 Holy Priest 18:48 Anboni enjoyers 19:05 Assassination Rogue 19:36 Everyone just copies Trills loadout cuz he's THAT guy. 20:29 Pikaboo even when its non-meta. 20:59 Meatball Shaman 21:46 F tier Hero Shaman 22:22 The 'Sterge 23:14 Maldiva 23:45 Demonology Lock 24:15 Big bolter boy 24:59 Bajheera 25:26 Bahjeera again but with two swords 25:58 Swifty's pinky
@Levelity
Ай бұрын
Cries in "F tier hero shaman", made me laugh but also made me realize it's a lost cause. They just don't care about enhance.
@George-iy5lq
Ай бұрын
Legend 😂
@fardeco998
Ай бұрын
Frost mage is 13:32, thank you tho❤
@ARGOS-THOR
Ай бұрын
@@fardeco998 thank you
@plague6174
Ай бұрын
Nobody in their right mind "likes" Crusaders 💀 bro is a literal creature. Tons of better hpals out there too who you could've made that tribute to. Swifty's Pinky made me rofl irl pretty good though 🤣🤣
Sir Supatease, thank you for all the content.
You can always count on supa to give the accurate info. Love this guy.
I hate all “has a X% chance to” stuff. Tie that % chance to STATS% so we can build around the % chance effects. “Has a chance equal to your Crit chance” “Has a chance equal to your Mastery” “Has a chance equal to your haste” START UTILIZING STATS MORE
@endofexistence2149
Ай бұрын
Im going to assume you didnt play season 1 dragonflight because your comment screams it. The reason these set bonuses are boring as fuck is because they want gather data on hero talents and the new talent changes that are happening right now. its a lot easier to start off a season with minor tier bonuses while seeing how things shake up with new systems then to start with over complicated crazy tier bonuses and having to do a bunch of nerfs. Either way the wow community is gonna complain because thats the only IO score they keep maxed out For the logical and reasonable people who pay attention to dev trends S2 of the expansion should have better bonuses that do more class and spec things. I say this as someone who honestly thinks stats in wow are boring without things like armor pen, expertise, and other bonuses.
@bosssavage3325
Ай бұрын
@@endofexistence2149 I did. Never ever said anything about set bonuses in my comment. I’m talking about everything in general like talents, proc effects etc. They need to utilize stats more like I said in my comment.
I'm really glad they're boring, some damage and haste around minions sounds so much better than "Death Coil and Epidemic damage increased by 10%. Casting Death Coil or Epidemic grants a stack of Master of Death, up to 20. Dark Transformation consumes Master of Death and grants 1% Mastery for each stack for 25 sec. Army of the Dead/Raise Abomination grants 20 stacks of Master of Death. When Death Coil or Epidemic consumes Sudden Doom gain 1 extra stacks of Master of Death and 10% Mastery for 6 sec." Really going to enjoy not needing a weakaura to track that BS
@manthe3711
Ай бұрын
Meanwhile, the Mistwevaer tier set from Dragonflight has been turned into a talent...I hate it so much.
@Gunship888
Ай бұрын
LOL
For the pres evoker question: There was a video on alpha that a capstone on pres tree was altered and the 4 piece season 1 & 4 Living Flame proc was cooked into the talent tree. It honestly needed to be something baseline for pres.
Love how hard capped assassinations damage is. Your dps is solely dependent on poison / bleed tic rate which will always leave assassin in the shadow of subtlety each and every time unless we get to single target a boss and don’t have to move around to just spam mutilate and envenom for like the 4th expansion in a row to be able to do damage outside of poisons and bleeds.
Disappointed that disc priest tier looks so much better than holy priest
Hoping Aug becomes viable again. It was really fun for about 5 minutes, and in fact, I'd like to see Enhance Shaman take on more of a similar support role. Really hoping they are able to make marks hunter at least an A tier spec. I've abandoned hunter altogether in S4 because once again theyve nerfed the one "thing" it had into the ground making BM and Surv just better. Still thinking it will be a lock for Disc/Fist mains but who knows what the next update will hold lol.
Cant wait til release. Yes some tier sets are weird, overall nothing big and fancy, but i get that when introducing the hero talents aswell.. It kinda takes over. I think its a better direction they are moving into. Having tier sets be more of a "meh" thing that just passivly increases some abilties and not alter your gamestyle. Thats what talents should be for.. So whenever they work on something gameplay wise..They just need to tune talents, not talents AND tier sets, and to top it off you might have your gameplay change for each tier with new sets etc. Better to just give a new talent, and give people the choice of going in a new direction, or stay with the old
Let's get some CATA content going!!!
Pressing fel dev is a death sentence sometimes you would only have 1 bounce back from death to 35% every 8 min and another 35% max hp from demon form. when you fell dev is for dps it hits 100k ish and when you send it its when the other team can easily 1 shot you so using it is a risk.
ret season one was very similar to war within season one but i guess not too bad can always use flat damage i like things simple on set bonuses so win i guess
@Gunship888
Ай бұрын
I’m stoked for ret! Actual gameplay changes. Going to be fun I hope 🤞
@derrickhead
Ай бұрын
@Gunship888 yea I wanted Templar to be the one but looks like herald of the sun got our back 💪🏿
First tier is usually just damage bumps. This isn’t anything terribly surprising. Still excited for TWW
ShadowDance is for Sub only in the next xpac. So not sure the outlaw tier is as good as you think.
@Supatease
Ай бұрын
Pretty sure they're giving you more vanishes the compensate it's just a way to reduce keybinds.
I main a Moonkin, seeing the talents and set bonus, already don't feel like playing the exppack
They actually fuckin HATE Rsham lol
@Heldensocke-nh9cj
Ай бұрын
Ele Aswell . Enhance seems okayish
Every spec20-25%(300%) shadow priest 1sec and 2% 😂, and how can USE devouring multiple to overleap if durration 10sec and dev CD 30 sec ?
1 question. Does blizzard still keep the same nerf in dragon flight to TWW? For example, invigorating shadow dust vanish reduce all ability cd by 15/30s in dragon flight currently nerf by 50% in pvp only 7/15s. In TWW its only 10/20s in PVE, so does it also get nerf by 50% in pvp to only 5/10s? Or Blizzard remove all the nerf for new expansion?
@glndopangamer
Ай бұрын
Based on my experience, no. In Shadowlands this has been covered by Venruki, Supa and I think Cdew has talked about that also. Maybe that's not the case anymore, but up to Shadowlands, nerfs to abilities got carried out to the newest expansions instead of them just completely deleting the nerf and tunning the ability's output afterwards. eg. Glacial Spike and Comet Storm got nerfed in Legion and only unnerfed towards the end of Shadowlands.
Been playing the beta, and the ramp up on Enhance shaman is very long. I'm not sure if it takes more than a minute for use to acceptable damage or if after our second set of wolves come out, we start doing scary damage. I'll do further testing after I get a working details.
@Chakafuyo21
Ай бұрын
very long? stormbringer storm build. almost no ramp and you can have up to 6 wolves active most of the time.
@Levelity
Ай бұрын
@@Chakafuyo21 In PvP getting a second set of wolves is very long to me.
that boomkin 4 set is a dam shame lol
Wait Chat, blizz said war within wont has their own PVP tier sets, so what is this then?? Can anyone explain pls..
Guys stop talking shit. They already explained their politics, first season would be mostly passive, second and third season would be more impactful
Blood dk is awesome
"These make or break your class!" Eh. Not really. Season 1 tier sets are intentionally on the lackluster side.
1st to coment 🎉🎉 hii guyyyss 🎉🎉
bro is the Ben Shapiro of playing wow
the ww monk one is weird. you want to weave tiger palms in to get bigger blackout kicks. but now you also want to not weave in tiger palms just so you can get big tigerpalms ? this is very weird
@Hitmaster8
Ай бұрын
pretty sure the 4pc set bonus wont change our rotation at all, you'll just passively get bigger tiger palms. The 2pc we may wanna play around a bit, like trying to have the buff up before using your highest burst abilities but I doubt it'll go much further than that
I wonder if a dev has responded yet on shaman forums. Last I saw they posted months back.
@Levelity
Ай бұрын
Yeah they said they were busy on other classes so they kinda just threw together Totemic real quick for resto/enhance cause they ran out of time on more important classes. That's not verbatim but it's essentially what I derived.
@canonize9241
Ай бұрын
@@Levelity Thanks for the heads up and oof.....
These do not make or break your class lol
Good to know I won't have to worry about tier sets on my fistweaver. Ass tier.
Is 5:09 code for Blizz can't balance the hero talents/ teir bonus properly, so to make one of the big xpact selling features look good they just gutted tier bonuses. clowns in the comments be like AND THATS A GOOD THING
tigers palm hits like 3% of max health atm, 4 set isnt that good
Unholy dk is locked into rider then
@Kurnhelios
Ай бұрын
The 8% damage to all minions is really only going to effect the horseman, you'll be able to summon everything as san'layn. The haste portion will be easy to stack as well outside of horseman. I'm not really that concerned honestly.
Do wow deva even play wow
But frost can’t even do big one shot on the beta lmfaoooo. Their damage is so low with cool downs active on top of everyone HP is like 9000k+. U barely hit 500k, let alone 900k lmaooo
Lmao, they really didn't have to add blade dance resetting. just another exanple of devs doing the most for their golden child classes.
@Blood_Ronin
Ай бұрын
100% This alone makes the tier set more engaging too when it comes to rotation. Most are just X% increase.
@emansfield2017
Ай бұрын
@@Blood_Ronin yeah why couldn't they have thought of something like this for other specs, but of course DH gets the more interactive tier set
@danielsmith2483
Ай бұрын
Every dev clearly playing DH lol
MM Hunter bonus = crap.
Another boring and shit their set for Disc Priest might just not play the game. It's gotten ridiculous.
@misos2290
Ай бұрын
You're ridiculous, it's literally the point for s1 tier sets to be tame.
@OGEETOMO
Ай бұрын
@@misos2290 Bulljive.
Shadowbolt should be castable by moving. What is with Blizzard and Shadowbolt. No one likes it.
Demon hunters chaos strike 25% chance of resetting blade dance? What a shit show. Can they stop riding DHs so much? Nothin else got that kind of thing in their tier sets. Bliz is going downhill.
Yay shadow priest tier set useless in pvp all with the simple use of a dispel
“Make or break your class” what a stupid take. These are season 1 tier sets and they have said they won’t do anything that would make thing’s complicated.
Boring set bonus like always.. blizzard can’t make anything cool. Just make the base spells do more damage and healing that’s a stupid tier set bonus.
@misos2290
Ай бұрын
They said specifically that they want s1 set bonus to be tame to give a chance for hero talents to shine.
@ivartheberserker9918
Ай бұрын
That’s what it should be like . Otherwise you end up with classes who don’t even use their tier because it’s garbage in PvP use your brain.
@Riddick608
Ай бұрын
Dont agree. Think its worse to have a set bonus build around one set of a talent build. In that case, they could just remove talents..