CJ, What Happened? | The Steve Dangle Podcast

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On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, CJ joins the show and talks about the last 72 hours (00:00), do you keep the Big Four together? (08:00), Is Zach Hyman coming back? (13:00), can Mitch Marner perform in the playoffs? (29:00), what do you do in the expansion draft? (47:00), re-doing the trade deadline (51:30), and who is coming back next season? (59:00).
Originally aired: June 4, 2021
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  • @ATotalDork
    @ATotalDork3 жыл бұрын

    43:01 Can we get _"They did everything except win"- Toronto Maple Leafs_ on a shirt? That sounds like the team's motto

  • @AnachromeFilms

    @AnachromeFilms

    3 жыл бұрын

    LMAO! That's amazing

  • @andrewhamp2893

    @andrewhamp2893

    3 жыл бұрын

    We've had the saying for a while, in Calgary. We wear that when our "a good 40 minutes" shirt is in the laundry. The two t shirts I'd like to see for the Leafs: 1) "Good Looks" featuring a dreamy looking Marner. 2) An "Expected Goals For" maternity shirt, with optional Matthews face on a sonagram.

  • @TeamOT

    @TeamOT

    3 жыл бұрын

    Need that as a banner in the locker room. "We did anything except win."

  • @guyh.4121

    @guyh.4121

    3 жыл бұрын

    How about. Division Winners in a Shitty Division.

  • @Hockeyhobo89
    @Hockeyhobo893 жыл бұрын

    It's going to be a long offseason. I'll just be chilling and then suddenly remember and get all worked up again.

  • @User-12133

    @User-12133

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup, but it’s not our fault. All we can do is watch, we’re not doing anything on the ice lol

  • @thereaversden6847

    @thereaversden6847

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not that long really... Hockey will be well into June when it's over, close to July with PreSeason starting late September roughly. Will be much faster then most think/feel.

  • @michaeldilley2544

    @michaeldilley2544

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the shortest

  • @User-12133

    @User-12133

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thereaversden6847 it may be short but it will feel like an eternity

  • @commissioner1969

    @commissioner1969

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow precisely the feeling I get.

  • @gunnerblade
    @gunnerblade3 жыл бұрын

    "The habs were like in the matrix" CJ says at the exact same second Steve brings up his blue gallon and Jessie drinks from his red cup (43:40)

  • @jayd5541

    @jayd5541

    3 жыл бұрын

    On an episode discussing the deja vu of a Leafs first round exit.

  • @saltykaptain5953
    @saltykaptain59533 жыл бұрын

    "Montreal now has it's first 4 win streak in 2 years" Maaan that had me dying i was laughing so hard.

  • @possidonnanobit5208

    @possidonnanobit5208

    3 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @toddhsu2871

    @toddhsu2871

    3 жыл бұрын

    6 by tonight

  • @sam93931

    @sam93931

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@toddhsu2871 they got to 7 :D

  • @196236502
    @1962365023 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else has watched the Steve Dangle Joker trailer from over a year ago and realized just how relevant it is today?

  • @majorpaul2009

    @majorpaul2009

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dude. Go search "do something leafs" and listen to that song (back when Phaneuf and Carlyle were with the team). It doesn't take too much changing of the lyrics to update it to today.

  • @quanger6496
    @quanger64963 жыл бұрын

    If Steve is gonna stop making LFRs then he should let JT use the blue room so we can make more IKEA furniture

  • @KroYT
    @KroYT3 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one dreading this podcast before I've even listened to it?

  • @kt05_67

    @kt05_67

    3 жыл бұрын

    no. pain.

  • @MrBcardinal35

    @MrBcardinal35

    3 жыл бұрын

    Avoiding the Leafs related parts (more than 90%) for the next few weeks until either the draft or they talk about the Bachelor again

  • @StonedSpagooter

    @StonedSpagooter

    3 жыл бұрын

    why?

  • @wubsworld8946

    @wubsworld8946

    3 жыл бұрын

    Regarding CJ's @1:14:14 prediction/teaser - - I came up with: Dvorak of @Coyotes Mantha of @Capitals Arvidsson of @Predators All: 1. make less$ than what Hyman will likely cost. 2. Have multiple years left on contract. 3. Are either in transition periods or near cap and endured unsuccessful seasons. 4. On US teams and not currently playing.

  • @ranchalthor3526

    @ranchalthor3526

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wubsworld8946 Chris said it was someone that has not played any playoff games this season so I highly doubt it's from the preds or capitals

  • @mikefarino4368
    @mikefarino43683 жыл бұрын

    Tampa had at least been to the finals and multiple conference finals when they decided to keep their band together. Leafs have won as many series as Buffalo has in the last 10 years.

  • @DARTZZZZZ

    @DARTZZZZZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you they also bought in Maroon who literally just won a cup Toronto brought in perennial chokers Thornton and Spezza and called them winners

  • @nolan2235

    @nolan2235

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DARTZZZZZ the leafs brought in bogosian... who literally just won a cup the year prior and played a similar role/impact as Maroon

  • @chulito6917

    @chulito6917

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats what these guys dont seem to understand, every cup winner had at least a couple runs before winning the whole thing. Its not like once you get past the first round youre automatically going to win the cup. You need to lose once or twice in the 2nd round/conference finals before you go on a big run.

  • @DARTZZZZZ

    @DARTZZZZZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nolan2235 yes but almost that whole tampa team had a run in 2015 and also Campbell isn't vasilevsky

  • @Dcheen

    @Dcheen

    3 жыл бұрын

    This dude... this x10000. Don’t know why this isn’t mentioned more. They’re not Tampa. They’re not the Caps. At least those teams actually won a series, or two, or three, or four, or.... I get that this is a Leafs podcast, but boy, push back on these Tampa comparisons.

  • @keeganmoonshine7183
    @keeganmoonshine71833 жыл бұрын

    CJ is insane when he was saying he didn't bring the heat. He's always incredibly entertaining and dropped great news on us on this one.

  • @Buckifan822
    @Buckifan8223 жыл бұрын

    I laughed out loud to Steve’s reaction to the Canadiens 4 game win streak comment.

  • @malman0789
    @malman07893 жыл бұрын

    This episode I really appreciated the KZread version with the silent anger/laughter/reactions from Steve that are missed from the audio version of the pod.

  • @1532JJ
    @1532JJ3 жыл бұрын

    "They didn't have anything left" is a truly damning statement. How can they be mentally exhausted by game 7 of the 1st round and still expect to win the cup? They've got to win 4 rounds of 4 games each and they struggle with the first 4. Like, when do this group shake off the losing choker mind set that currently follows them around like a bad smell?

  • @silentpulls7447
    @silentpulls74473 жыл бұрын

    Matthews and marner literally just needed to score 2-3 goals between them. Their supporting cast was great.

  • @guyh.4121

    @guyh.4121

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mathews beat Marner 3-2 in the points dept.

  • @justinwalters7953
    @justinwalters79533 жыл бұрын

    Hard work beats skill when skill doesn’t work hard

  • @raygaub9861

    @raygaub9861

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why Hyman is more important than Marner who has to be traded to set the tone and course correct.

  • @Waders27

    @Waders27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cody Ceci works hard, how did that work out?

  • @OvieSnips8

    @OvieSnips8

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@raygaub9861 hey troll

  • @dillon6320

    @dillon6320

    3 жыл бұрын

    Facts.

  • @kashyappatel3458

    @kashyappatel3458

    3 жыл бұрын

    skill can work hard and still lose. Luck plays are large element in life. That game 6 ur telling me the leafs didn't outwork the canadians. Shots were 13-2. Not to mention the comeback.

  • @theknowshowsportscast137
    @theknowshowsportscast1373 жыл бұрын

    "Their top line did all the scoring plus Victor Hedman" and Gourde, Killorn, Cirelli, Goodrow, Coleman, Shattenkirk, Sergachev

  • @QRM00

    @QRM00

    3 жыл бұрын

    So half the team 😂😂

  • @paulmarimootoo2059
    @paulmarimootoo20593 жыл бұрын

    Tampa bay lighting did not have 4 forwards players making $40 million. Let’s stop comparing the leafs to the Lightning, Capitals or Red Wings

  • @occamsox5331

    @occamsox5331

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Red Wings aren’t like Tampa. They’re more like what’s going on in Pittsburgh. They won multiple cups. So they keep going all in and mortgaging their futures to try and win more. Tampa and Washington are definitely similar, they always look like world beaters, but Stamkos and Ovechkin each only have one Cup ring. The Leafs are something else entirely. It’s like rolling a dumpster on fire off a cliff.

  • @dylanwynkoop4578

    @dylanwynkoop4578

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let’s also not forget that all of those teams won several series’ before finally winning the cup, it’s not like the Bolts, Caps, and Wings lost in the first round for 6 years in a row then suddenly won the cup, no all of them had multiple trips to at least the 2nd round before they won.

  • @guyh.4121

    @guyh.4121

    3 жыл бұрын

    If they didn't compare there'd be no decenting opinion lol

  • @tkirchmann
    @tkirchmann3 жыл бұрын

    "You need to be true to who you are" -CJ What if you're a loser in the playoffs?

  • @danieldosso2455

    @danieldosso2455

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kappa

  • @dennissmith9259

    @dennissmith9259

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's like the advice my grandfather gave me decades ago : "Always be yourself. Unless you're an asshole."

  • @ryanfraley7113

    @ryanfraley7113

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do think Toronto should have played on their front foot, and been aggressive in game 7, but they also don’t really get in front of the goal and take risk to get pucks in the net. Even with attacking, they had to play in a far more reckless manner.

  • @needmorecowbell6895
    @needmorecowbell68953 жыл бұрын

    "Where does this story (the collapse) begin, for you?" When one team showed up wearing Leafs jerseys.

  • @needmorecowbell6895

    @needmorecowbell6895

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like the Leafs to do a Lightning and Tavares has "lingering effects" from his concussion until next post season and then use his cap number to sign Hyman and a couple of other players.

  • @needmorecowbell6895

    @needmorecowbell6895

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Leafs have to learn from the Lightning in another way: you have to be able to win by possession and playing dump it in and go get it. They've good at possession. Not so good an dump and chase.

  • @strahinjagov

    @strahinjagov

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @danieldosso2455

    @danieldosso2455

    3 жыл бұрын

    For me it's when Kyle Dumbass took over from Lou

  • @TheBeardedPickle
    @TheBeardedPickle3 жыл бұрын

    Last time I was this early the leafs had a 3-1 series lead in the canadiens:(

  • @Hockeyhobo89

    @Hockeyhobo89

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's sad how quickly it went from 3-1 to out of the playoffs.

  • @wilseph1
    @wilseph13 жыл бұрын

    Bless your heart Steven for listening to Christopher's recap at the top of the pod here. Reopening wounds!

  • @User-12133
    @User-121333 жыл бұрын

    It’s been almost a week and I’m still in shock lmao

  • @calimarshall2236

    @calimarshall2236

    3 жыл бұрын

    I' m a 41yr old man with real tears in his eyes (or 2 bugs that flew in my eyes that I'm suffocating by drowning them with tears) either way seems likley.

  • @User-12133

    @User-12133

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@calimarshall2236 I feel worse for you, I’m 15, I cried both years they lost to Boston, I was mad when they lost to Columbus and this year I’m just in awe, this team is unbelievable when it comes to disappointing fans

  • @AscendedXSaiyan

    @AscendedXSaiyan

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not shocked as I'm one of the ones who said Habs in 7 from the start

  • @Waders27

    @Waders27

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@User-12133 So you didn't watch the loss to Boston in 2013? You're lucky

  • @User-12133

    @User-12133

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Waders27 nope, just stuck with the misery trail it left behind

  • @rosstrapper7732
    @rosstrapper77323 жыл бұрын

    Downloads immediately and turns on chel21. It’s been a long week waiting for this 1. Let’s goooooo

  • @beeffarmer8576

    @beeffarmer8576

    3 жыл бұрын

    Happy friday

  • @alexgardner4329
    @alexgardner43293 жыл бұрын

    Every year since the Auston Era, this team is getting better. The top players are getting better especially. Mitch was shooting more this year than the previous years, Auston using his big size more, Nylander even stepping up, JT getting better defensively. They have to break through this wall one of these years...

  • @marcomoro2067
    @marcomoro20673 жыл бұрын

    i love u guys. thank you for reporting on these this team.

  • @evanstewart5040
    @evanstewart504010 ай бұрын

    Just wanna say the following as a Habs fan. despite this being a few years old, I consider this video “ol reliable”. Some days are good, some days are bad, and on the days that don’t go my way, this instills a sense of glee that few other pieces of content ever could. The butterflies always fly far away, it’s the one that understands me, I release the inhibition and feel the rain on my skin, it just does the trick. Thank you for this gem! 😊

  • @sligo405
    @sligo4053 жыл бұрын

    This is some fine content. I needed this content.

  • @VED34
    @VED343 жыл бұрын

    If they can’t bring back Zach, I will get that much angrier about Mitch’s contract.

  • @nicelgie462

    @nicelgie462

    3 жыл бұрын

    You shouldn’t, as paying Hyman over 5M AAV with term will be a disaster for whatever team is desperate enough.

  • @stephenphillips6245

    @stephenphillips6245

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nicelgie462 Paul Bryon makes, I think, 3.5mil a year and he has similar numbers career wise, so this 5/6mill talk is crazy. There are players that cost less and of similar quality...granted Bryon is 3 years older.

  • @nicelgie462

    @nicelgie462

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stephenphillips6245 yup that summarizes it perfectly. Marner may be overpaid but his skill set is irreplaceable. You can replace what Hyman brings and add another good piece for $6M, depth shouldn’t make that much and as much as the fan base loves him and CJ even said on the podcast; Hyman is not a part of the core.

  • @dillon6320

    @dillon6320

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stephenphillips6245 Hyman is worth 5 mill all day. 6? Hell no, his numbers are inflated by who he plays with. I think you can sign him to 4.7 though and that’s a good deal.

  • @stephenphillips6245

    @stephenphillips6245

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dillon6320 He is a good player...I just don't know how they sign him and form a complete team over the next couple of years (esp sign some of their next crop of young players).

  • @helloimshawn
    @helloimshawn3 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, chris really put things into perspective for me, and showed me things arent as bad as they seem. It still stings like hell but I'm glad you guys brought him in. We needed the unbiased point of view.

  • @mikev880
    @mikev8803 жыл бұрын

    7x6 for Hyman? That's a Loui Eriksson contract

  • @dslking

    @dslking

    3 жыл бұрын

    The gm that signs that good luck

  • @mikev880

    @mikev880

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Carleton Rutherford Good call forgot about Lucic's contract. Both horrendous.

  • @Em-fz6eb
    @Em-fz6eb3 жыл бұрын

    omg cj how could you leave us on a cliffhanger for at least a month like this!!! also jesse immediately stating jack eichel with complete sarcastic confidence was my favorite lol

  • @Brvce_Wayne

    @Brvce_Wayne

    3 жыл бұрын

    It could be Eichel

  • @DARTZZZZZ
    @DARTZZZZZ3 жыл бұрын

    The difference between Tampa and Toronto is Tampa had a run in 2015 they knew how to win they just didn't Toronto literally doesn't know how to win and the "Winners" they brought in Thornton known playoff choker with 1 run to the final Spezza one run to the final lotsnof disappointment Tampa brought in Maroon who just won a cup thats the difference

  • @Noordhof

    @Noordhof

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leafs brought in Bogosian who just won a cup. If the Leafs don't know how to win in the playoffs, how do they keep getting to game 7?

  • @sam93931
    @sam939313 жыл бұрын

    Montreal had the toughest last month or so schedule of the league. For over a month, they never had more than 1 day break. Often 3 games in 4 night. Thats because 2 of their players got covid and it delayed their games for a week and a half, compressing the rest of the schedule. None of the north teams had to deal with this (beside the canucks, but they were already out of the race before it hit them). In fact, no NHL team played more hockey than Montreal in the last month and half of the season. Another team had to deal with covid and it was the Dallas Stars who MISSED the playoffs clearly because of that crazy schedule. You don't go from Stanley cup final to missing the playoffs like that. Back with habs, without that crazy schedule, Montreal don't get as many injuries during the regular season and definitely wins more games. They would have looked much more "legit". After the season was over, they were able to rest quite a bit, Price came back, Gally, Weber, Danault and so many injuries and game fatigue got healed up. Brian Burke thought, back in January, the habs would be the team to have the most success in the post season out of all north teams. They are built for this.

  • @mightymacaque
    @mightymacaque3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks CJ, love you bud.

  • @chuckhelson3744
    @chuckhelson37443 жыл бұрын

    Pretty damn good analysis of this issue, especially about Mitch. He’ll find his way.

  • @bananakin94
    @bananakin943 жыл бұрын

    I feel so bad for Steve. Just in constant agony because to CJ’s insights.

  • @TheEDFLegacy
    @TheEDFLegacy3 жыл бұрын

    That end bit... oooooh... exciting. :D

  • @ddmath
    @ddmath3 жыл бұрын

    During the regular season a buddy and I thought that we were seeing one of the best teams we have watched, and we have been watching for a lot longer than the SDPN guys. No playoff success, it really sucks. And yet, they were really good! You don't throw all of that away in anger and frustration. The coach didn't adjust, that was a big thing. The power play should have been fixed before the playoffs started. That was a problem, and that rests with both the coaching staff and the players. I don't know what the summer will bring, but I would not be surprised if they stand pat and build around them again and see what happens.

  • @ryanfraley7113

    @ryanfraley7113

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you think Claude Julien or Gerard Gallant would make adjustments? I couldn’t see them roll Marner out on the same line time after time.

  • @RamanN00B
    @RamanN00B3 жыл бұрын

    believe it or not, i feel better after watching this one. CJ is incredible and gave me some good stuff to think about and honestly some hope. leafs will still be good and make some moves to improve. but man i hope the leafs keep my man Hyman.

  • @Northerngirl15

    @Northerngirl15

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also I agree, Hyman would be a huge loss...

  • @primallatiosz9540
    @primallatiosz95403 жыл бұрын

    That dangle laugh at 43:20 was mad funny but one could see the salt litterally bursting through him. I genuinely felt bad for him man...

  • @prestoncopenace4793
    @prestoncopenace47933 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me, or does it feel like when this team finally gets past the first round, that we will celebrate like they have won the Stanley Cup?

  • @wagglewiggle

    @wagglewiggle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look at the game 6 broodie goal they celebrated like they won the cup

  • @gdavies4

    @gdavies4

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've followed the leafs since 2006 and we've never advanced a round. So yes, I'll celebrate it like a cup victory.

  • @myquest666420

    @myquest666420

    3 жыл бұрын

    My Blues had this problem for what seemed like forever. We did celebrate winning round 1 like it was the Cup when it finally happened. It took the Blues 8 years to finally get to the promised land (well, much longer but I count 2011 as a turning point with the franchise) and it took a LOT of retooling. At many different points between 2011-2019 I believed the window was closing and the sky was falling. But it eventually happened, and it made all of the suffering worth it.

  • @Vvranaa

    @Vvranaa

    Жыл бұрын

    welp safe to say toronto definitely did lol…and then round 2 came.

  • @frankscott4034
    @frankscott40343 жыл бұрын

    I would listen to offers and have conversations about everybody on the roster. But I would be willing to keep the core and give it another kick at the can. Go Leafs Go!!

  • @miked245
    @miked2452 жыл бұрын

    Watching this a week before the next playoffs start against the lightning. Let's see if this repeats itself.

  • @Mountaineer3615
    @Mountaineer36153 жыл бұрын

    Phil Kessel 2022 Stanley Cup Champion Assistant Captain Toronto Maple Leafs Con Smythe Award winner! CJ broke it here first!

  • @Lemonhed42000
    @Lemonhed420003 жыл бұрын

    CJ: They did everything but win Steve: *dies*

  • @danielphinnemore3454
    @danielphinnemore34542 жыл бұрын

    KZread recommended this to me, thought it was for this year

  • @LisaMo3434
    @LisaMo34343 жыл бұрын

    CJ leaving us on that tease... A+ sir

  • @lastofusclips5291

    @lastofusclips5291

    3 жыл бұрын

    can't be jack eichel...could it?

  • @wubsworld8946

    @wubsworld8946

    3 жыл бұрын

    Regarding CJ's @1:14:14 prediction/teaser - - I came up with: Dvorak of @Coyotes Mantha of @Capitals Arvidsson of @Predators All: 1. make less$ than what Hyman will likely cost. 2. Have multiple years left on contract. 3. Are either in transition periods or near cap and endured unsuccessful seasons. 4. On US teams and not currently playing.

  • @mvk4343

    @mvk4343

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wubsworld8946 Mantha and Arvidsson played in the playoffs, so they're ruled out of that

  • @wubsworld8946

    @wubsworld8946

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mvk4343 yep. I miss interpreted a portion: my ammendment as follows includes only Dvorak as an idea. Regarding CJ's @1:14:14 prediction/teaser - - So far I came up with: Dvorak of @Coyotes 1. Have multiple years left on contract. 2. On US team. 3. Didn't play in the playoffs at all this year.

  • @R33ma
    @R33ma3 жыл бұрын

    The Leafs ARE a Juggernaut. They are a Jugger, but at the same time they are Naut.

  • @alexrowdyrodrigues9716

    @alexrowdyrodrigues9716

    3 жыл бұрын

    They need Juggernog at this point to withstand all the physical play that they can't compete with

  • @PatrickSchraner
    @PatrickSchraner3 жыл бұрын

    I love how in Canada everyone is so nice that mean comments on social media is considered "nasty". Imagine choking a series in a European team, coming out of the rink and there's cars on fire. If Mitch can't get over this then you really need mentally tougher guys... And I really don't wanna move on from Marner...

  • @Jc21112
    @Jc211123 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love CJ :D

  • @dwon9873
    @dwon98733 жыл бұрын

    Dubas says the leafs made progress I guess based on regular season results. But I would trade Montreal s place for Toronto anytime. I would rather be 16th in the regular season and go 2 or 3 rounds of playoffs vs 1st in the regular season and 7and out of the playoffs. Build a playoff team. Regular season means nothing.

  • @BarnesGannon
    @BarnesGannon3 жыл бұрын

    Man, CJ is the best

  • @mccabber24
    @mccabber243 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to cry

  • @jimieljoseph2322
    @jimieljoseph23223 жыл бұрын

    Steve with his face in his hands; 5:46. Yup, thats pretty much the way my life has been for 52 of my 57 years. My only consolation is they won twice while I was alive and just before I was born in '64.

  • @wubsworld8946
    @wubsworld89463 жыл бұрын

    Regarding CJ's @1:14:14 prediction/teaser - - So far I came up with: Dvorak of @Coyotes 1. Have multiple years left on contract. 2. On US team. 3. Didn't play in the playoffs at all this year.

  • @MrBcardinal35
    @MrBcardinal353 жыл бұрын

    The one silver lining, the previous series you could throw some caveat or excuse to justify it, even though you would hope the team would not think about it like that. Washington they were favoured to get swept but instead put up a spirited performance. Boston got real tiring after a while but you could say “that’s Boston”. Columbus you could throw out the bubble and no training camp for Keefe, and maybe even put all of those years under a Babcock caveat. This was humiliating and they are fresh out of even the wildest of excuses. It’s probably the angriest and most apathetic the fanbase has ever been in the modern era and that includes the years they were trapped in horrible management. The Tampa comparisons are pretty awful, a better imo yet still flawed is those Caps who eliminated the Leafs in 2017, to get taken out in a Game 7 by the Penguins the next round. That was 0-3 for Caps vs. Pens in the Ovi Crosby era at that point, 2 of them Game 7s. Narrative was the Caps would never make the 3rd round or ever beat Crosby, Ovechkin may never win the cup, Holtby is washed, and they did it the next year. The Leafs bar is just so much lower that the equivalent will be winning a round, but hitting that rock bottom and nearly the whole fanbase having no hope may just be what the Leafs need to clear their heads.

  • @howardt1317
    @howardt13173 жыл бұрын

    Adam ask CJ the question were nodding off hearing another story lol

  • @donniedoesdishes
    @donniedoesdishes3 жыл бұрын

    hey chris tampa won a cup without stamkos , tell us all against about the jt injury holding the leafs back

  • @Waders27

    @Waders27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tampa has more depth. You don't need C.J. to answer that.

  • @Noordhof

    @Noordhof

    3 жыл бұрын

    So you think the Leafs are as good or better without Tavares?

  • @vader4015
    @vader40153 жыл бұрын

    The Leafs powerplay is ALWAYS looking to score the "perfect", "pretty" goal. I was horse yelling at my TV for them to just shoot. They need to shoot. Shoot. AND then Shoot some more. Puck possession and sweet passes do not score goals. Shoot-The-Puck. At-The-Net.

  • @kevzvipe

    @kevzvipe

    3 жыл бұрын

    traffic

  • @danieldosso2455
    @danieldosso24553 жыл бұрын

    Leafs: keep having to give up their Depth to afford the top end Also Leafs: We have no scoring Depth

  • @niroshank7859

    @niroshank7859

    3 жыл бұрын

    Selfish players squeezing every last penny they can for themselves leaving next to nothing to ice a competitive team. Management coddling players before they've proven a damn thing.

  • @Rippitydip

    @Rippitydip

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, also Leafs: We only have depth and no top end

  • @redheron4321
    @redheron43213 жыл бұрын

    What I get out of this is a complete lack of answers, and very few promises that anything will be different next year.

  • @keithlangman2081
    @keithlangman20813 жыл бұрын

    Its so true, the hardest thing to do is nothing. I'm mad too but I really don't think we do any either.

  • @MrDMF567
    @MrDMF5673 жыл бұрын

    Fedorov shout out! nice! What a wonderful player. Essentially a video game “create-a-player” tier talent.

  • @zach9848
    @zach98483 жыл бұрын

    Lmao chris is wearing his juggernaut shirt

  • @joshmartin4815
    @joshmartin48153 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this one to tell me how to feel lol

  • @DACOSTA78
    @DACOSTA783 жыл бұрын

    I really hope we get a few players for the 4th line that are fast, ornery, high energy and are very stiff to play against.

  • @TheGunman18
    @TheGunman183 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU I STILL NEEDED THERAPY

  • @EK-911
    @EK-9113 жыл бұрын

    love how steve has kept the beard, suits him 👌

  • @jordandickenson4947
    @jordandickenson49473 жыл бұрын

    I have always been against trading nylander for you guys as a non leafs fan but wow if you have a chance to sign dougie hamilton for around 7 mil and keep hyman you move nylander and reilly all day, you can find 20 -25 goals a year for about 4.5 mil and you might even have it for significantly less in robertson.

  • @edentako964
    @edentako9643 жыл бұрын

    They did everything but win killed me😂

  • @chicocongas
    @chicocongas3 жыл бұрын

    Possibly a short term deal with Hyman? 2 -3 yr?

  • @joeshedler6496
    @joeshedler64963 жыл бұрын

    I've seen the shirt for sale, it was $29.99 cant remember where tho. Maybe the fanatics website?

  • @ngrosskurth
    @ngrosskurth3 жыл бұрын

    CJ "They should be the team that no team can contain" Me "It's working in Colorado"

  • @MsHighZee
    @MsHighZee3 жыл бұрын

    I love Zach Hyman, I don’t want to lose him but I want whatever is best for HIM

  • @liltiger3
    @liltiger33 жыл бұрын

    Leafs need their big guys to play that playoff style hockey and break through. Nylander seems to have figured it out, I'm sure Tavares can do it. Just need Matthews and Marner to get on board. Can't manufacture that playoff desperation or style by getting over the hill vets to play on the third and fourth line. Mackinnon, Landeskog, and Rantanen do it for Colorado. Bergeron and Marchand have done it for years in Boston, Pastrnak now follows suit. Kucherov and Point do it for Tampa, the whole Islanders lineup plays that way. Sure, find guys that can play that way to play throughout the lineup, but until our best players do it, this team isn't going anywhere.

  • @anklez4385
    @anklez43853 жыл бұрын

    Let’s go Chris is back again

  • @gregeamer1479
    @gregeamer14793 жыл бұрын

    as a habs fan I've just started watching all the toronto sports / podcasts...it's possibly more entertaining than the game itlself.

  • @chulito6917

    @chulito6917

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same, im loving all the meltdowns and second guessing

  • @glynmorgan5111
    @glynmorgan51113 жыл бұрын

    I would say they need a shutdown line. you have your offensive 2 lines down pat, matthews marner tavares nylander. their 3rd line or 4th line needs to be a shutdown center that they can just take out an opposing 1st line, maybe not score, but just lock down the dangerous offense from another team

  • @iSingToooMuch
    @iSingToooMuch3 жыл бұрын

    Alright, I might be crazy, but to give context, I listen to this podcast while I do some work in the mornings; I thought, for a whole minute, at 29:54 that there was a Call of Duty "hitmarker" sound just inserted into the podcast... only to then realize it was Adam smacking his lips in mid-thought.

  • @elwizschold
    @elwizschold3 жыл бұрын

    The habs now have a 5 game winning streak... their first since 2017. That shows will and effort (as well as playoff-Price)

  • @kylef7616
    @kylef76163 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Bring in CJ to make sense of all this

  • @DACOSTA78
    @DACOSTA783 жыл бұрын

    Marner hit the Jackpot on a slot machine that Zack Hymen is just about to play on...

  • @Roger-le1bv
    @Roger-le1bv3 жыл бұрын

    Steve looks like he's in pain while Chris talks. Hilarious. Chris' perspective is exactly what's wrong with the Leafs.

  • @ryanfraley7113

    @ryanfraley7113

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m watching this as a neutral (Blackhawks fan) and thinking “Steve, tell this dude he’s full of 💩already.”

  • @dylangray9965

    @dylangray9965

    3 жыл бұрын

    how? I think everything Chris said was pretty on the money.

  • @richierich398

    @richierich398

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe all the love for CJ in the comments. He is a complete moron and if that’s how leafs fans think, then no wonder they’re a bunch of losers!

  • @twoinchrpinchr6040
    @twoinchrpinchr60403 жыл бұрын

    Mitch should try and add atleast 10 pounds of muscle this summer. Needs a bit more strength on the puck and the balls to drive the net.

  • @colinlata6224

    @colinlata6224

    3 жыл бұрын

    10 pounds? try like 20 lmao dude is like 170 soaking wet

  • @twoinchrpinchr6040

    @twoinchrpinchr6040

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@colinlata6224 *at least 10 pounds* that doesn't mean stop at 10, but realistically 10 is a good start for a smaller guy. I'm about his size and took 3 months to put on the weight needed for my college program (15lbs added from 160)

  • @mplath21
    @mplath213 жыл бұрын

    if a team is willing to pay Zach Hyman 6 million dollars and term he should without question take that deal.. he plays a hard style and his body deserves whatever someone is willing to pay.. however; the Leafs should not be the ones to offer that contract. I just watched Tofolli score a goal that Hyman is just not capable of.. Toffoli is 4.2mil and the max i'd offer Hyman is 3.7x8, MAYBE 4.. if we know anything watching guys that play that style, it's that their bodies break down. He doesn't have skill to rely on, thats why he works so hard because if he eases off the gas even a little bit, hes not nearly as effective. Id give him term because it's the right thing to do, but I wouldnt give a higher AAV

  • @cmac9029
    @cmac90293 жыл бұрын

    Chris said it! They need to be MORE BETTER!

  • @frankquatrini7574
    @frankquatrini75743 жыл бұрын

    Can Wendel Clark and Doug Gilmore come help coach the leaf's? Love the podcast thanks for doing it.

  • @praag121
    @praag1213 жыл бұрын

    CJ is talking out of his butt. Tampa had won the conference during the regular season, made it to the conference finals, won several series, and never lost 4 first rounds and a play-in round.

  • @DaaaaaBears

    @DaaaaaBears

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tampa won the presidents trophy and lost 1st round to the blue jackets, it doesn’t matter what other teams did

  • @alexboyer8373
    @alexboyer83733 жыл бұрын

    The big name player who CJ was hinting at is Chychrun, right?

  • @tkirchmann
    @tkirchmann3 жыл бұрын

    Should Matthews and Marner agree to a salary cut to help with the cap next year? You don't get paid max to get knocked out round 1.

  • @UkrainianPunk180

    @UkrainianPunk180

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish they would but they wont

  • @AceMatthew25414

    @AceMatthew25414

    3 жыл бұрын

    They can't...contracts don't work that way

  • @tkirchmann

    @tkirchmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AceMatthew25414 Ah crap. I don't know all the rules for relating salary to cap space. In Canadian law they could certainly amend their contracts to be lower for a duration of time but I don't know if that translates to cap space.

  • @crimsonravager

    @crimsonravager

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tkirchmann they can’t and why would they? Sports contracts aren’t the same as normal contracts

  • @tkirchmann

    @tkirchmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crimsonravager If they could it would be to help retain talent for the next season since the cap isn't going up and they kinda f***ed up this post-season in a big way. They were paid $20+ million combined this season and got 1 post season goal between them. That's embarrassingly bad. The legality of it is they can but the NHL may have rules how that does or does not affect the cap.

  • @sportsfan_913
    @sportsfan_9133 жыл бұрын

    My counterpoint to Toronto needing to look at Tampa when they lost to CBJ. TB had already had great playoff success. Cup final appearance, two conference finals..

  • @grantchow13
    @grantchow133 жыл бұрын

    The Leafs playoff interview mantra was their play was “inexcusable” ? Hence they were “excused”...

  • @EngineerLume
    @EngineerLume3 жыл бұрын

    I am honestly so sad that the Cup Finals this year can no longer be Leafs vs Boston

  • @cryptocode88
    @cryptocode883 жыл бұрын

    You should be able to do an 8 year deal for Hyman at 4.5 mill per. That’s 36 million and puts him to 36 years old! You front load with Toronto signing bonuses and give him a really good book deal with chapters lol... he would be set for life.

  • @DaaaaaBears
    @DaaaaaBears3 жыл бұрын

    Anyone that’s been watching COL and VEGAS lately knows this team isn’t fucken close well never win a thing

  • @WauWTF
    @WauWTF3 жыл бұрын

    From CJ's hints, it has to be Ekblad? anyway can't be borthered to see if anyone has mentioned it or if it has been mentioned in a later podcast, just catching up now.

  • @praag121
    @praag1213 жыл бұрын

    The Leafs changed the power play to load up for a period here or 1 PP there or maybe 1 game in mid-season and then went back immediately to Joe Thornton in the bumper OR Simmonds as the net front. I will bet anything that per 60 mins the PP2 with Willy, Tavares, Spezza out scored PP1 or at least out chanced and out-entered the zone succefully than PP1. They never changed the drop-back pass to Mitch and Auston when Willy and Spezza and Sandin and Rielly are WAY BETTER at transitions, transporting the puck up and entering the zone the Big two.

  • @brettb8266
    @brettb82663 жыл бұрын

    They're power play was they're downfall.

  • @late3619
    @late36193 жыл бұрын

    TOUGHNESS TOUGHNESS TOUGHNESS

  • @brendonedgar2923
    @brendonedgar29233 жыл бұрын

    CJ is a beauty

  • @PowderClaws
    @PowderClaws3 жыл бұрын

    I mean, I don't see Freddie staying and that money can be used to juice some kind of Hyman money to keep him around a few years and bring up guys from the AHL. It's about time to bring them up and draft for the AHL and future again

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