Chronos 2.1-HD prototype demo, overview and teardown
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The long awaited upgrade to Chronos 1.4 is now available for preorder! Take a look at a demo of the protoytpe, and see how it works and is built.
Preorder a Chronos 2.1-HD:
www.krontech.ca/store/Chronos...
Higher quality demo shots (view in 4k)
• Chronos 2.1-HD Demo Re...
Chronos ring video:
• Chronos Ring - Bullet ...
Music: Journeyman by Aakash Gandhi (KZread Audio Library)
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I didn't expect something like this for a few more years. I am convinced David never sleeps or he figured out how to clone himself.
@Y2Kvids
5 жыл бұрын
David?
@matthewkesterson
5 жыл бұрын
the taoflederfolks will be waiting for your upgrade!
@Y2Kvids
5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkesterson wow , this is basically indie project!
@Bibibosh
5 жыл бұрын
TAOFLEDERMAUS can we tell this guy not to spin the camera but instead a mirror..... then run frame software to rotate .
@Gyppor
5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure krontech will be happy to send you a test unit, you've been one of the biggest advocates for them.
Looks like some great improvements to an already amazing product. Can't wait to try one!
@mdrahman6732
5 жыл бұрын
I knew you guys use the 1.4c. Can't wait to what slow mo footage you guys will get with the 2.1.
That is an amazing upgrade! FullHD, lower noise levels, much brighter screen - just about all you could ask for! Keep the great work
I really love the insight you give into the process of prototyping, designing, designing-for-manufacture, manufacturing, and distributing electronics. There's so much that goes into it that I'd never know about otherwise!
@tesla500
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll have to do a video going over the development process and challenges
I love it! Absolutely stunning. I've been following your channel for years and its been amazing to see how far you've come!
It has been wonderful following the development of this over the years. I appreciate that you take the time to share it, I can't imagine how crazy busy you must be!
@tesla500
5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had more time! So many projects I want to do
Awesome. Congrats on the new model. Keep up the amazing work!
Does this version still have the crop modes for increased fps, or does it always read the full sensor and decrease resolution?
@WildfoxFabrication
2 жыл бұрын
Given that its a high speed camera and higher frame rates use reduced resolution to decrease the amount of pixels being processed to allow for faster processing, i would guess it's still windowed at lower resolutions. Also, fancy seeing you here
I'm in love, again!
Awesome stuff guys, excited to start using this for visualmediachurch. We just placed our pre-order! :)
The dynamic range is amazing! :)
What I wouldn't give to get my hands on one of these to test out. Holy brilliance!
When I can collect enough quarters from the couch cushions for a high speed camera, you're definitely gonna be my go-to!
Great work as always!!
I'm still an ECE student and this is such a marvel, i couldn't imagine the difficulty of making this product! good on you man
Beautifull camera and Wow effects
Your work is absolutely amazing. Although I cannot afford one of your cameras, I really wish you keep on succeeding like that =)
OMG hell yes 😍
I'm definitely saving up for one of these
This is so going into my new product studio.
You could get round case fans (they are affixed with a gel sleeve). In this particular situation, i would've shaved that corned off the fan, mind you. 3 points of contact are more than enough for such a small fan, just my 2 cents.
@drojf
5 жыл бұрын
Yea...that seems like a wierd choice to me too. Maybe there's some other reasons he didn't elaborate on.
@k1ngjulien_
5 жыл бұрын
Or just rotate the fan by 45 degrees xD
This is amazing ! It's my dream to buy it one day
Amazing!
congrats... i remember seen this camera first prototypes years ago.. and it reach 2.0.. just subscribed time ago too see how your project evolves.. maybe a big company some day.
Oh my, I am in Love! 🔥😍
It's getting up there. :)
You would benefit greatly by upscaling the video to 4K before uploading to KZread, because KZread highly compresses 1080p video with a lot of artifacts. Because I assume the original footage does not have the same level of compression as shown here?
@username4441
5 жыл бұрын
he would benefit from hosting his own files and sharing them the way he actually wants, instead of using "free" youtube and letting them crap on it.
@bernardo00124719
5 жыл бұрын
@@username4441 its not for the free host. he got a lot of suport from the youtube comunity since the start. (so its down to marketing reasons).
@username4441
5 жыл бұрын
@@bernardo00124719 right, i realize that. but it is really just as simple as including a link to raw/un-compressed file in description.
Oh my gosh, 100k fps in a chronos? Didn't expect to live to this day. Move aside phantom, our boy is going up fast.
@MysticalDork
5 жыл бұрын
It's only 100K FPS when you have an array of a couple dozen Chronos cameras in sync. Phantom still wins in terms of performance, but, well, you can buy several nice cars for the price of one of their V2511s.
@the_ALchannel
5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Willis wait, no, I wasn't talking about ring setup, I meant a single camera at its smallest resolution; the specs on the website for 2.1 state that; as far as I know, even a single chronos 1.4 can do up to 38k fps
@MysticalDork
5 жыл бұрын
@@the_ALchannel Okay, fair enough. I didn't look at the website specs.
@cristibaluta
5 жыл бұрын
I'm. sure he said 1000fps, like a sony smartphone.
@the_ALchannel
5 жыл бұрын
Cristian Baluta thats at max resolution. I meant at min resolution, from the website specs.
This is absolutely insane! I would consider pairing this with full-frame lenses, with a speedbooster, followed by a c mount adapter. You would increase low light performance, and likely render a better image given the modern coatings.
You're my personal hero.
Incredible how far you have come with this from your first prototype, great job and seeing your 48 camera ring! Impressive and best wishes for your company's future :) Unfortunately it now also has a pricetag where I am out of the customer segment, but I guess there is more money to make from business's than prosumers? I am stuck with my FPS1000HD (not so happy smiley)
@ProjectPhysX
5 жыл бұрын
Luckily some new smartphones have got great slow-motion cameras which can record 960fps @720p (Samsung S9/S10) or even @1080p (so far only Sony XZ2). You can get some of these phones used for less than $400. Disadvantages are that recording is limited to bursts of approximately 0.4 seconds and a lot of lighting is required to get good shots. There also is no option to further increase the framerate by decreasing resolution.
@KaizerPowerElectronicsDk
5 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectPhysX i got a Sony Xperia XZ Premium, and its close to useless Compared to a dedicated high speed camera, it is out of comparison.
@c4pt1n54no
5 жыл бұрын
@@KaizerPowerElectronicsDk if you're careful in how you plan your shots, you can have good results with an Xperia camera. It's like comparing a quick shot taken on a dslr vs a very meticulous setup for similar results with an iPhone or whatever other flagship. They can both be good, but of course if you take your time the dedicated equipment will always be better
@galaxystudio3740
5 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectPhysX It's not real 960fps, you can clearly see artefacts from framerate interpolation. Physically it can be half of the 960fps or even lower.
@ProjectPhysX
5 жыл бұрын
@@galaxystudio3740 For some phones (Huawei P20 Pro and others) you're right. On the Samsung phones, the 0.4s recording mode is 480fps with interpolation, however the 0.2s recording mode is true 960fps. Source: www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote9/comments/9i09c5/superslowmotion_960_fps_vs_480_fps_same_result/
I love this project
Ok mate. I thought I am a developer when I created an ebike display with arduino and touch lcd. Now I run through few your videos and I found out it was nothing. You are a genius, unbelievable. Good luck with your camera. I dont understand how possible to design such a circuit boards.
I realy like this little slomo camera.
That sensor board is nuts.
@tesla500
5 жыл бұрын
That was a nasty routing job! Took about 2 or 3 weeks
@MorRobots
5 жыл бұрын
@@tesla500 kinda lame that you couldn't flip the sensor 180 degrees because of the case.
brilliant engineering
My dream has been wanting to be able to afford one of your amazing cameras, Perhaps someday?... Please keep up the awesome R&D work and cheers from a fellow Canadian Dave!!!
wish i had the money. Great product.
@_BangDroid_
5 жыл бұрын
For the feature set, the price is amazing. Still, beyond my budget too though
@redsquirrelftw
5 жыл бұрын
I feel the same too, it's incredible to see an affordable high speed camera but still outside my budget for hobby use. I'm sure it's worth every penny though, the hardware that goes into it is not cheap. The sensor, ram, processor etc and just the time involved in designing it. It's a great price for the type of people that would use it professionally, they'll be able to afford it quite easily and even have multiple going at once.
@swedneck
5 жыл бұрын
@@redsquirrelftw I wonder if its feasible to make a chronos-lite? A camera that doesn't do any insane FPS, just 500 or so.
@mdrahman6732
5 жыл бұрын
@@swedneck I think some smartphones can do that.
@blendernoob8993
4 жыл бұрын
@@mdrahman6732 ya but for 2 secs at a time
Hi great video, got me thinking looking at the DDR3 RAM used for storage of footage, is there any reason why I couldnt change this ram to 64gb to extend the recording time
I’d love to try this to help promote it
@lukewalker3905
3 жыл бұрын
You just want free stuff. Respect your viewers and don't shill them things.
Could you do a side by side comparison between the two screens' brightness? Also would like a more comprehensive frame rate list, maybe 5-10 resolutions?
Excellent
I need this!
Thank you for the video. Cool cameras, it’s a pity that I don’t have the opportunity to purchase such a camera to shoot my relays. Have to be content with 960 frames (0.2 seconds) in the smartphone.
Holy shit you're fucking killing it dude!
Is it the compression of KZread that I'm seeing, or the camera? What kind of data write can this camera do at 1080p 1k fps? Thanks!!
hi, so... if i open my camera (16gb ram) i can add or change the ram to 32 gb? just like in a laptop?
20 power rails sounds horrifying :O
@redsquirrelftw
5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that, that's an art in itself trying to lay that out lol.
i needing a camera for vloges does these have flip out scren? can i edit these in adobus premier?
I thought I wanted a Chronos camera.... Now I need a Chronos camera.
Hello, great work! :)
Just WOW!
I've wanted one of these for a long time, I had no idea you were located in Burnaby! I'm in Surrey.
oh, so it wasn't april fools joke :O NICE!
Can someone explain the need for this product. Isn’t there already many high speed cameras?
This is awesome, great work. Also realized you're in Canada, that's great. Do these ship from Canada? I'm not in a position to afford one (the price is good for what it is though!) but it's great to know that if I did buy one I may not need to worry about customs.
Can this camera be used in car racing or horse racing to take the finish photo?
Where can I get a replacement screen and battery
Hi, I noticed an error on your website. If you try to go to "Store"->"Accessories", you get redirected to the wrong URL, there is a ":" missing after "https". :D
Congrats, looks good. Outside my budget also, d'oh.
what type of RAM is in Chronos2.1-HD? is it easy to upgrade to bigger ?
6:05 what twilight sparkle is doing there?
Is there anything else comparable at 5k?
Did you make this camera alone or with someone else?
How did it have a other problem? For example, By lighting...filcker syndrome? Hmi, other hollogen ramps...
Plans for a higher resolution sensor in the future?
If as you say the only major difference is the Sensor board, would it theoretically be possible to swap only the sensor board from the chronos 1.4?
@Critters
5 жыл бұрын
Sn upgrade path for us 1.4 owners would be nice for sure
@k1ngjulien_
5 жыл бұрын
@@zobris oh yeah, sorry I didn't catch that the first time
@gorak9000
5 жыл бұрын
Also the connector to the sensor board is completely different... did you watch the whole video?
when I watch Dustin Farrell`s two lightning videos Transient 1 and 2, how could I not find this a very tempting purchase at about 1/15th of the price? But it`s a year on and they don`t seem much closer to getting it into our hands. I`d like to be corrected
@tesla500
4 жыл бұрын
We've got about 40 of them shipped so far, right now we're waiting on more image sensors to be able to build more cameras. We bought out every sensor Luxima had in stock, more are on the way, but semiconductor manufacturing has a long lead time, and the virus situation has also slowed things down. Sit tight, we should have good supply by June.
@alpinewonders
4 жыл бұрын
@@tesla500 thanks for the reply. Am seriously tempted. I don`t need 4k, but dang, Dustin-level filmwork with this is a mouth-watering prospect
Drool!
This camera is on my wish list. My main channel is where I do macro photography and time-lapse videos. I would love to add slow motion.
Cool!!!
Is there a reason why you are not offering MFT mounts for this sensor, so customers have access to a wider gamut of high quality lenses? MFT with a speed booster and a nice prime 1.4 would give you really sharp video.
Can I modify the Firmware?
What's the actual barrier to making a Phantom alternative with 10-20K frames/sec at 1080p?
@tesla500
5 жыл бұрын
A few million dollars to make a custom image sensor
@mduckernz
5 жыл бұрын
@@tesla500 Pretty good reason ;)
@JAKOB1977
4 жыл бұрын
@@tesla500 peanuts, you will have that in a heartbeat if you stop gifting these left and right to online social media influencers. I don't know how this greasing & lubricating "influencers" are in Canada..a world of difference between Justin Trudeau backbone bending facon and then fx Scandinavia. www.transparency.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/MapindexNZ-1024x973.jpg but Im not judging, but maybe you could get the price down a bit, if you didn't handed these left and right to online influencers but whatever it seems it how you roll. But as MIke electric stuff puts it, it is what it is.
Quick .. fit a fuse in Weller soldering station
Any updates forthcoming?
@tesla500
4 жыл бұрын
The first shipment just went out this past Friday! Expect the early bird units to ship over the next week or two
If we can imagine it, we can do it...
Technology going tiny they going bold!
Yes yes yes yes yeeeeeeeees!!!!! I have to start saving money now... * ___ *
why are the memory options so expensive? i looked up some ram with the same specs as the modules at 6:23, but they're much less than $1000 for the 32gb.
@tesla500
5 жыл бұрын
The memory is relatively cheap, but it took months of engineering effort to get 32GB working due to lack of support from the FPGA vendor Lattice. The price is to recoup this engineering expense.
@robmckennie4203
5 жыл бұрын
@@tesla500 I suppose that makes sense, I just would have expected that would come out of the base price. 6 of one half a dozen of the other i guess. Is it possible for someone to buy the 8gb option, and upgrade to 32gb on their own? that would be my worry.
@MrBazsi888
5 жыл бұрын
@@robmckennie4203 this is a good question. i also want to know.
@robmckennie4203
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrBazsi888 The upgrading memory thing? Well, if we assume he saw the second question and chose not to answer it, which isn't a given, I would conclude that the answer is yes, but he didn't want to choose between either lying, or giving away that anyone can have the 32gb option for much cheaper
@MrBazsi888
5 жыл бұрын
@@robmckennie4203 i mean just... if i buy the 8gb, is it compatible with 32 or even more if i swap the modules later on ?
Tunderbolt 3 and a pcie ssd would be nice in this
is the PCB layout Open Source ?
whats the deal with the 4k @ 250fps ?
you should sell a kit that upgrades the older cameras
@andirelok2255
5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, had the same idea :) Since its hardware is very much recyclable, a HW-upgrade, maybe using a Trade-In option for a lower fee might actually be feasible :)
@mduckernz
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would actually save much money. He's had to pretty extensively modify it... you could conceivably re use the case and charging board but that's about it; the sensor board and compute board are new. Not much of a savings I expect. Maybe it is possible to adapt the connection of the older compute board and the new sensor board but I expect this, while probably plenty possible, is still not trivial, especially in the very limited space. Perhaps he could produce a new sensor board that uses the old connector (for upgrades) - this would be more realistic, but also adds production cost sooo yeah.
max framerate at 4K ?
I'm still missing a computer camera interface.
How did you go about making this? I'm kind of interested as I want to explore the world of embedded Linux on single-board computers and interfacing MIPI sensors. You literally built a camera so I don't know anyone better to ask!
@BSPBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
MIPI is too slow for high speed camera. You need lvds.
@power-max
3 жыл бұрын
@@BSPBuilder MIPI (CDI and DVI) uses LVDS, between 2 and 4 LVDS lanes and LVDS clock. MIPI is a protocol (like I2C, SMbus, CAN, SPI, UART, etc) and LVDS is just a way of signalling 1s and 0s. So I don't know what alternative protocol you are referring to. I know some older lower resolution LCD panels used 80MHz parallel interface prior to MIPI DSI.
@BSPBuilder
3 жыл бұрын
@@power-max Sorry that I mean multiple channel lvds like the one in Lux2100.
When is the time for DDR4, or even GPU type DDR?
@tesla500
5 жыл бұрын
DDR4 has a very high minimum clock speed, about 1GHz, so high that low end FPGAs will likely not support it for years. DDR3 will be around for quite a while sill.
@rkan2
5 жыл бұрын
@@tesla500 How about PCI-E/Thunderbolt cameras that can be connected to a computer? Could just have the sensor DSP on-board, like machine vision manufacturers do? (Ximea xiB for example)? www.ximea.com/en/products/pci-express-high-speed-cameras-xib/fast-speed-models-64-gbps/cb019mg-lx-x8g3
Just for my interest: is there anything on a lower budget that goes above 240fps (like the GoPro Hero 7 Black)? I don't mind tinkering, But something above 1200fps in atleast 720p maybe? We need it for a non-profit scientific animal research. All is paid with my private money, I'm just an idealist :)
are you allowed to do that?
Would love to see Dave from EEVblog get his hands on one of these
Who is the fire goddess?
Why not use LPDDR4 memory? Faster, lower power consumption, cheaper...
I watched this in 360p because you know, I'm a rebel.
Even the 1.4 is well outside my budget! :(
@Liam-B
5 жыл бұрын
Loans/financing + selling your work can pay for nice things like cameras.
That is a lot of lag on the back screen picture.
i feel like they need a chassis developer
I love Twilight as much as the next guy, but by now Starlight Glimmer should have proven herself worthy to adorn a mainboard.
They should have come up with 2k or 4k.
this camera doesn't joking.