The Rabbi Shmuley technique: make your points very loudly, and they will magically acquire more validity and truth value.

@bardoface

Жыл бұрын

That’s a common Sales approach. The bully method. It’s more about imposing your will than truth.

@taxidude

Жыл бұрын

Could you speak up? I can still hear him! ;)

@smoly37

5 ай бұрын

@@bardoface Very belated reply but so be it... Just wanted to say I agree with you fully. And what surprised me, is that he obviously can't adapt it. He should know by then, after former debates, that he doesn't need to shout to make his point across, because with someone like Hitchins there's no need to. Hitchins will NOT be intimidated nor bullied. I have to admit, that I really hated this guy after two other debates but the way he approaches Hitchins at the end made me realize that it was all in the heat of the debate. I had to change my mind about Schmuley. Toodles from Amsterdam.

Hitchens: Makes an argument Shmuley: Screams an argument

@drrydog

4 жыл бұрын

couldn't bear to listen to shmuley, ill take your word for it >.>

@ossiedunstan4419

3 жыл бұрын

Just screams, their are no arguments for religion, why do you think all middle eastern religions consider athiests as mortal enemies .

Man I miss Hitchens... What a truly inspired, brilliant mind he was and his death was a loss for the world, not just the atheist community. He truly was a champion for human rights, and the world could only benefit by having more people like him... Cheers Mr. Hitchens!

@marthamarvelette4565

8 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Kelly I keep searching You Tube trying to find someone who makes me think & inspires me the same way Hitch did. Sadly I doubt I will ever see another of his stature & intellect in my lifetime. I miss him too.

@henrymartinez4871

8 жыл бұрын

+John Doe Agreed. I miss him as well. The guy fought to the very end!

@SandraLovesRoses

8 жыл бұрын

True inspiration. Lovely person. He was alive, in the truest sense of the word, until he wasn't. I will love him until I die.

@trainerd1

5 жыл бұрын

Martha Marvelette He was the James Bond of intellectualism.

@illuddivinus3309

3 жыл бұрын

Calling him brilliant and inspired doesn’t even touch his genius. Closest thing to an ironic deity given his prose. I’m sure his IQ bordered ludicrous. And I say that because a true genius can perfectly intertwine almost pedantic photographic memory, while also maintaining humor at the core of his pathos. He is legendary.

This debate was held 16th September 2010, in June of the same year Hitch was taken into emergency care after suffering from a severe pericardial effusion. We lost Hitch 15th December 2011, I'm in awe of this man who despite being ravaged by esophageal cancer, and chemotherapy treatment that clearly left him in a weakened state, to be able to continue to debate with such passion and determination, shows what a great thinker and intellectual he was. He was the author, co author, editor, or co-editor of over 30 books, including five collections of essays on culture, politics and literature. Thank you for helping preserve Hitches memory in presenting these videos.

@Horatio-Nelson

Жыл бұрын

@Steve White: Yes Steve. You're right. Hitchens WAS ravaged. This was indeed a just process. This being is now a small pile of oxidized ash. Regards.

@capitalisa

8 ай бұрын

@Horatio-Nelson An ugly heart is reflective of an ugly God.

@scimatarpictures

7 ай бұрын

@@Horatio-Nelsonwhat a bizarre comment

@xpltfailure

6 ай бұрын

​@@Horatio-Nelsonyou're evil

Someone tell Schmuley he has a microphone. Hitchens is the James Bond of philosophical debaters. Miss him profoundly.

@Jw-un8oh

4 жыл бұрын

I love that analogy man

@Ajinzem

4 жыл бұрын

That's just preachers preaching. They never care to debate. They just preach the way they preach in their temples, emphasizing a lot so people think there has to be some crazy genius insight they will nod to, pretending they understand to not be left behind.

One of the greatest gifts you should teach your children is to think for themselves.

hitchens vs inflatable arm flailing tube man

@JosephNordenbrockartistraction

10 жыл бұрын

I know! Quite the contrast in personalities. Almost comical but the topic is serious.

@alanwilson4860

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm chuckling

@BenjaminGoose

4 жыл бұрын

"Chrissy" Trying to undermine him by using a female name, an obvious indicator that you're a conservative loon.

@Jw-un8oh

4 жыл бұрын

@Jazzkeyboardist1 Science doesn't prove anything. It shows us the most accurate model. Try again failed mucian.

I love how Hitchens just blows his nose during Shmuley's opening argument, like, "I don't even have to pay attention to this guy to fuck his argument up in a few minutes."

I can't listen to Shmuley - too shouty.

Hitchens speaks 10:50 40:50 1:14:10 1:22:55 1:33:20 1:42:45 His introduction is boilerplate so I recommend you start at 40:50, but the second part is a great intellectual (and a greater performer) at the top of his game.

@The1stMrJohn

4 жыл бұрын

👍😁I'm sure that there's no afterlife, but if there was... CH would be giving them hell!

@commanderpipi1youknowfromp730

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@softbeak8333

3 жыл бұрын

@@The1stMrJohn are you though?

@BFrydell

3 жыл бұрын

Edit your comment (however you want). After you submit the update, the timestamps in your comment may turn into actual links (now that KZread can do that).

@unknownchannel3141

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Videos of Christopher make me happy because I can listen to it at work and remain engaged and sane.

I have nothing but admiration for Hitch: his love of learning and literature and his eloquent way of expressing himself is still a continuing inspiration for me. His courage to continue a series of debates while undergoing the debilitating affects of cancer treatment - nothing but respect!

@johnnybgoodeish

7 жыл бұрын

Agnes, because that is one of those idiotic things that christians love to say and is just absolute nonsense. If your understanding is just superficial soundbites that is the kind of thing you say. Dig deeper, peel off those onion layers to reach a deeper understanding -you have a brain. I'm sorry, but I feel so disappointed when human beings parrot this kind of rubbish, because I know people, including yourself, are capable of so much more. We are biological organisms, but not merely: we are amazing biological organisms capable of so much. All of the processes that occur in our body are chemistry, which do consist of "molecules in motion" but that is how our body functions and allow our brain to work and all of our biological systems to function. Are you never curious about these things?

@johnnybgoodeish

7 жыл бұрын

Agnes, was that the maniacal laughter of a lunatic? Should I call you Dr Evil?

@The1stMrJohn

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnybgoodeish like your name 👍

@michaelstellajr3931

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnybgoodeish "...but that is how our bodies function, while [sic. also] allowing our brains to work, and [sic. further] allowing all of our biological systems to also function." Is that better grammatically? Idk.

I went to drink water,i exited my room across the hallway into the kitchen,and I still hear evwry word Schmuckley is saying

The very first statement Shmuley makes "We all believe in an afterlife!" He starts off wrong about me and he's loud. His ego is larger than his gut :)

@gloriouspurpose_

10 жыл бұрын

Well he goes on to explain what he meant by that, he seems to have said it to garner some shock & it worked. This involves, as he put It, an eternal legacy 'after-life' such as MLK.. which is what nonbelievers would associate more with. It's funny, many of my Jewish friends speak in a tone similar to his... almost the same voice. Wouldn't say it's having an ego as much as being eccentric.. but since when is having an ego a bad thing? lol

@SatanicSeed

9 жыл бұрын

Well if you had listened for a few more minutes, you would have noticed that he actually says that the afterlife that we all believe in is us living on in the memories of our descendants.

@JosephNordenbrockartistraction

7 жыл бұрын

SATANIC SEED : That's just another bucket full of holes that also doesn't hold water. Nobody takes themselves seriously when they spout off about reliving their childhood through their children and my fading memories of past dead relatives is nothing like them still being alive and talking about death as we all do. Dreams seem real only if you stay sleeping and daydreaming is what children do when they're bored with reality.

@PandemoniumMeltDown

4 жыл бұрын

Always start a ficticious claim to a truth with a pink elephant.

@Krikenemp18

4 жыл бұрын

@bigbadb10 I'm reminded of a point Hitchens has made to arguments about "good theists" but is fitting in this discussion, which I'll paraphrase here: Shmuley's "afterlife" is agreeable precisely on the basis of its departure from theism.

How CH opens the bottle at the end is in many ways how he saw life; we miss what has always been right in front of us, and we only need now to view things differently. What a man.

Hitchens argues his point, Shmuley Preaches his point.

That was a great ending . RIP Christopher Hitchens your memory lives on .

Shmuley is impossible to listen to.

@SleepyPenguin-8og

3 ай бұрын

But he doesn't even rap in shithole alamance

My first comment as moderator would have been 'schmuley stop shouting, it does not make you point any more credible'. Anyone who has watched him debate (sorry preach) before will know he shouts everything, constantly tells everyone he was a lecturer at Oxford and incessantly name drops. 'I met the pope, I met President Clinton, I met him, I met her' and on and on and on. The man is just awful. Utterly awful.

@darlingtonboobam4107

7 жыл бұрын

schumley went over kill... and lost me when he went on and on and on about MLK.... I felt like I was in kindergarten being conditioned and sheltered by fairy tales and lies. .......he's also hard to Take seriously when he starts shouting..... tooo much drama cannot make up for or distract from the obvious lack of proof truth or power of your argument...... please people....!!!!

Hitchens is just amazing, he blows my mind in what he says, and yet i totally agree with everything he says, his rational straight forward thinking picks away the at stupid ideas of religion, and after i have listened to this man speak, i feel stronger and more human because of it. Most of us here feel the loss of Christopher, and although i wish he was still alive, im sure he has helped mankind turn the page in secular rational thought.and one more thing, i love Chistopher Hitchens

I'm a Christian and I have to say how heart breaking it was to watch Christopher Hitchen's health take such a precipitous decline. Sad that he died so young.

@woodytheduke

Жыл бұрын

some of your christian friends cheered for his demise. To still call yourself a christian after listening to this man proves your still a stubborn theist

I love how the people are calling Christopher Hitchens, "Hitch". I think that he thoroughly likes it.

Hitchens lives on on You Tube

@isinox

4 жыл бұрын

J Wunder the best afterlife he could have hoped for :)

@The1stMrJohn

4 жыл бұрын

😁👍💚

@pmathews109

4 жыл бұрын

Oh where are you now when we need you, what burns where the flame used to be!

@kiwitrainguy

4 жыл бұрын

It's one form of immortality.

@jonathonrobinson7236

4 жыл бұрын

@@pmathews109 I believe you would find him in God's wrath. Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:10 And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

I think of the late C. E. Hitchens as a historian. He knew the history of England, the U.S.A., The religions around the world and yet he was most renowned for being a controversial journalist who uncovered the truth about famous people. I miss him and I don't believe he is somewhere resting in peace. His personality is gone and that's just a shame for us.

@jdkhaos4983

2 жыл бұрын

Luckily it's the age of technology so he lives on electronically and teaches millions even after death

Christopher Hitchens, Thank you for opening my eyes to the Truth. Missing you.

Sure, God loves us SO much, he sends us to Hell for unimaginable pain and suffering for all eternity for the crime of skepticism. Legit.

@Ometecuhtli

3 жыл бұрын

They love the victimless crime so much

Always be suspicious of people who SHOUT, they've already lost the argument.

@britton5881

7 жыл бұрын

"Empty vessels make most noise""..

@boxer12350

7 жыл бұрын

nickyact1 well said

@mathgod

4 жыл бұрын

I AGREE WITH YOU.

@Ajinzem

4 жыл бұрын

I get louder when i am losing it because the guy i am talking to keeps ignoring what i am saying and continues preaching the same over and over again even though i made a good point to negate what he is preaching about. Even worse when it's illogical and makes no sense, yet they act like it's so obviously true. Ignorance is hard to deal with.

@Ometecuhtli

3 жыл бұрын

In Spanish the saying goes: Mucho ruido y pocas nueces -> A lot of noise and a bit of nuts. It comes from the observation than if you shake a nut the one that makes most noise is the one that has the least edible material, or in this case, the least substantial argument.

I just watched two other debates between Hitchens and Shmuley, without skipping any parts, and had all but written Shmuley off as a shouty bastard. However I'm glad I watched all the way to the end to see what happened after 1:47:06 - absolutely melted my heart. I hope we see more people like Hitchens soon. Rest in peace.

Hitchens is awesome. His words were gold. .

this is shmuley when he's calm.

Hitchens afterlife is his work, his books, the insight and courage that he gave others to fight the dogma of religion. He is dead, but not forgotten.

Omg Shmuley is so loud in his speaking. Hitchens is awesome!

The last 5 minutes of this video are wonderful. If you don't want to watch until the end, please watch the end, at least. You might find the Rabbi to be credulous, and you may find Christopher Hitchens arrogant; but in the end you catch a glimpse of who these two people really are. Two people who love life, and want other people to be happy and fullfilled, and are willing to help in whatever way they can to make that happen. R.I.P Hitch

@smoly37

6 ай бұрын

And that, friends, family, brothers, sisters, comrades, is the true meaning of a discussion. Amongst people that have the wisdom to not mistake the arguments with the person. I thought the rabbi was very annoying, but the way he offers his respect and best wishes is very gracefull. I see him now in a totally different light.

An amazing man and brave is Christopher

That oompa-loompa analogy was one of the weirdest things I've heard. Literally every bit of it was wrong.

You can see The Hitch patiently, barely containing his frustration, twirling his glasses about, as he waits for the comical Schmuckley to finally stop prating.

And the sound guys should be given complete control over mic volume.

I live in a group home with two devout Christian. Hitch helps me stay sane I was sad to hear of his passing

Hitchen's said so much more, without even a word at times.

fyi, that voluptuous woman in the centre is Lisa Oz.

Those two are true fucking gentlemen. Great dialogue!

I remember being at this debate and thinking to myself how Christopher was dying of cancer and still more alive than any of us. That and how you could feel the attractive moderator was smitten with him.

Damn, that Lisa Oz is one helluva smouldering beauty!!

@JosephNordenbrockartistraction

10 жыл бұрын

Yes she is !!

Thank you sir.

I enjoyed this dialogue very much.

Good work by the moderator, to dive right into the debate without the 5 hour introductions that are common of other mods.

Wish he was still here. he inspired so many.

I love Hitch

"Having, so-to-speak, invented the toxin of monotheism, it's a wonderful thing that jews have been the greatest contributors to undoing it." There it is, I think the best hitchslap of the debate. I hope you read this in my afterlife.

simmer down Shmuley... let the Hitch begin!

@SandraLovesRoses

8 жыл бұрын

lol

What an excellent ending to an interesting debate.

Exactly. For those of you who don't know, it is the idea mentioned above that has enabled the Catholic church to say that condoms are more harmful than AIDS. They truly believed that they were doing the dying people a service by letting them die 'legitimately' and get to heaven early.

One of my favorite conversations

Christopher I thought you were going to debate a rabbi not a bloody Used car salesman...

Yes, he's a great debater, it's fun to listen to him.

Those chairs had to be miserable to endure.... I absolutely love listening to Christopher!

1:35:50 - "very slender little memoir" hilarious

Best intro to a debate ever.

The last minute was really heart warming

Great exchange! by the way, you can fix the widescreen border by putting the following into the keyword tags: yt:crop=16:9

Boy can that man shout, if being right works in conjunction with volume .

This video is pretty easy to analyse. The louder Shmuley yells, the more bullshit he spouts. Pretty gracious of him to make it so easy :)

wow what a great debate :). I love when the debated is heated enough to be interesting but not so that the hole thing turns to slander, although that could be interesting to, i feel the intellecual points made where brillant....... love you hitchens :)

I've seen many people debate with Hitchens, and I have to respect Shmuley most of all. I don't agree with his beliefs, but I respect his honesty.

Hitchens what great mind

First two seconds says it all, the louder you SHOUT the righter you are.

What a intellect hitch was

Hitchens were are you were are you we need you so much!

@kiwitrainguy

4 жыл бұрын

Your post is missing two "h" 's. Should be "where" instead of "were".

If you need a hero , look no further, a giant of a man with a giant of a brain , rip sir , the world loved you and in your death they honour and respect you , this way you already live for ever without religion.

@1984isnotamanual

17 күн бұрын

Have you read his memoir?

The zeitgeist is changing - and Hitchens was / is on the front line.

Crazy to hear shmuley talk about not blowing up things in 2024

Shmuley said souls are real and later on he said he is humble enough to admit that he does not know something. How does he know if souls are real? I am calling shmuley out as a liar.

@ 00:21:00 Priceless Hitchens I recorded on my cassette tape. Love that laughter too !!!

I like this debate; it's a bit more endearing than some of the others I watched between Hitchens and other theists.

Thanks for the comments, yeah, you're exactly right, .. and those founding fathers were smart enough to separate church and state. Regarding Hitchens, I've listened to dozens of his debates and lectures, he had an incredible wealth of knowledge that I doubt few people could match, the idea of a 14 year old "ripping him apart" is simply laughable that I had to play along with it in my last comment. Thanks again.

Thank you so much. Shmuley's hoarse throated ranting gives me a headache.

I thought I was an athiest until I heard the shouty person. Now I know I am.

I miss him

When was this?

Man is a marvelous curiosity … he thinks he is the Creator's pet … he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea. -- Mark Twain

Christopher is a legend!

did he bring it up again?

Shmuley's debating technique is fantastic: shout louder than the other guy.

It annoys me when people deliberately misuse the word faith. No one uses the word faith to describe a belief in things that aren't supernatural. I think it is a good idea to be sceptical but I would never say that I have faith in scepticism because the word faith would raise scepticism up and give it supernatural qualities, and that wouldn't make sense to me.

I have to say, what a wonderful ending. Well wishes without the need to inflict prayer.

Those chairs look like the least comfortable pieces of wood I've seen. lol

@MasterCedar

4 жыл бұрын

I suspect that that the JC might disagree with that statement.

@TimKrukowski

4 жыл бұрын

@@MasterCedar you've won the internet. There is not even a close second. You'll be receiving a major award directly.

@MasterCedar

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimKrukowski Thank you, thank you, thank you, I would just like to say...........

@jema9735

4 жыл бұрын

They're kosher

@jeffmcginnis3882

4 жыл бұрын

I will say, when watching this on my phone, I "Blew" on the screen atleast twice...assuming the arm-rest was a hair on the screen.

Great debate, full of respect and humor on both sides. I'm an "atheist Jew", but I have to say that Shmuley is pretty cool for an orthodox... Thanks for the post.

"That religion is a petty commercial enterprise'. Yes it is!

Well said. Well said indeed.

Shmuley's voice is nails on a chalkboard!!

Two wonderful debaters. Christopher, I miss you (I'd love to hear you talk about Trump and today's GOP). Rabbi Shmuley, thank you. Cheers.

@1984isnotamanual

17 күн бұрын

I agree about Hitchens. He would despise Trump for ONCE AGAIN abandoning the Kurds to be slaughtered.

what is up with the constant change of camera angles?

Am I the only person who's thinking, "Oh, that's why Dr. Oz is always so damned happy."?

The deference and respect Shmuley pays Hitch, Hitch's rejection of it notwithstanding, is rather touching.

That how it goes! Shouting loud makes a fantasy true!

Besides the very "shouty" Shmuley.....has anyone noticed that this video is inverted?

@rawbackmitchell

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the watermark on the bottom left gave it away.

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours --Stephen Roberts

Schmuley is a cross between Professor Irwin Corey and a screaming case of hemorroids.

I can admire one thing he says, he admits that there is no proof of a god and he said he doesn’t want to lie and say he has proof because there is none and that it is his belief and faith without proof. at least he’s being honest.

There’s a dark tone to shmuley. Dark indeed.