Christian Attempts To Show The Trinity In Scripture! - Muhammed Ali
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@bagabossa9970
Жыл бұрын
Keep it up bro.. May the help of Allah be with you always.
@BRAVE_BALLZ
Жыл бұрын
👍
@miscgar9663
Жыл бұрын
Muhammad copied books of Bible and made Quran. He married many to help them. He killed many as they were bad. So he added polygamy and jihad and made Quran. Beware in the last days many logical men will make many to fall. Pray nonstop till you know God
@standbyevidence1
Жыл бұрын
Next time please discuss with the best high school teacher English language in discussion and read the clear and ambiguous verse in the bible and that can the benchmarks clear cut verse or not in objectively..just my suggestion without biased
@christopherwells3426
Жыл бұрын
@@standbyevidence1 once you've seen the truth pure monotheism ie Islam. You can't turn away from it. And it is the standard on which we judge everything. Including your Bible!
So glad I'm doing my shahada this Saturday. I just can't believe so many Christians will hold on to so much deception.
@ALMALKILION
Жыл бұрын
ما شاء الله .. مرحبا بك أختي .. والحمد لله على نعمة اسلامك
@jessidris375
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Many congratulations
@abraarshah9215
Жыл бұрын
May Allah swt guide you always ameen.
@joyphillips1821
Жыл бұрын
So can you tell me why the Quran thinks Jesus didn't die, but the Jews and the Christians did? Revelation 1:17-18 17) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
@lianaburless1835
Жыл бұрын
@@joyphillips1821 what you should really should asking yourself is why the Bible has so many literal contradictions from one section to the other. And as far as what the Jews and Christians believe about Jesus, That is not of concern to me. That seems more like a you problem. But why would you ask, me, a revert that question. Jews don't even believe he was a prophet but yet you're trying to compare the two just because you guys believe he was crucified. Most users not all don't want to even be associated with Christians because they had the Trinity and nobody wants anything to do with that but Christians. The fact that Christians believe that it's okay to kill an innocent man regardless of if he gave his own life which I highly doubt that would have been the case, why would people so-called Christians think it was okay to do regardless. Then you have holidays that the only thing about them that are about the holiday is the name other than that it's all pagan. You have Christmas hidden in a pagan pagan traditions like the Christmas tree the mistletoe The reef all that is pagan. I don't know why you're concerned about Jesus when you got to be more concerned about your holidays. the pagan holidays you guys celebrate disguised under a Christian name while keeping all the pagan traditions.
As a Congolese and former Christian, Alhamdulillah, I understand where he’s coming from. He’s simply explaining what had been preached in Congolese church by pastors that had done no research or read any book about Christianity. They pretty much read the Bible and interpret it as they see fit to what message they want to pass around. Listening to Trésor took me back home to my home church listening to a typical pastor. They go by feelings and not facts. You can’t question anything and if you do, you’re told to just believe and not to let the devil in. Alhamdulillah I’m a Muslim now and everything makes sense.
@emansulman-vt6pf
Жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah
@ALMALKILION
Жыл бұрын
ما شاء الله .. مرحبا بك والحمد لله على نعمة اسلامك
@daddysday9651
Жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah..May Allah will always bless us. Aamiin
@abdulhassan784
Жыл бұрын
May Allah give you strength and honor you
@akieyu1856
Жыл бұрын
Welcome in the ummah my Congolese Brother. Just to let people know here there is muslims in the far east of the Country all over. Never been tainted by the Portuguese or Belgium missionaries. Alhamdullillah
Moses: Hear O Israel, Lord, our God is one. Jesus: Hear O Israel, Lord, our God is one. Muhammad: Say: God is One. Peace be upon them all.
@fotochick4
Жыл бұрын
The key point you’re missing here is the LORD. The shema says “Here O Israel YHWH is our God, YHWH is one”, meaning there is no one beside him. If you don’t worship YHWH, you are worshipping a false god.
@sildkrunxagers1070
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@@fotochick4 neither did jesus utter the word yhwh. Try again.
@JamalAlAwadhi
Жыл бұрын
@@fotochick4 what does god translate to in aramaic (language of Jesus christ peace be upon him)? Google it then admit that Jesus didn't worship yhwh
@fotochick4
Жыл бұрын
@@sildkrunxagers1070 Yes he did. He spoke the shema in Mark 12:29
@fotochick4
Жыл бұрын
@@JamalAlAwadhi YHWH does not mean God. That’s another thing Muslims can’t understand. God’s name is NOT God. When Jesus refers to God, he is referring to YHWH specifically
As ex Christian I never thought that Trinity is the One ! It’s was always clear that God is the One ! I wish I learn about Islam long ago and challenged my own mind. But Alhamdullilah I reverted to Islam in the time Allah appointed for me ! My Allah guide people to Islam !
@Sardarji-bq6oj
8 ай бұрын
Liar 🤥
@juliaabusaad1861
7 ай бұрын
@@Sardarji-bq6oj don’t be hard on yourself
@juliaabusaad1861
7 ай бұрын
@@jeremycrawford4004 the Gospel was given to prophet Jesus (peace to him ) was written by Allah Almighty. The Bible you reading written by dozens of authors . It’s a man made . If you accepted the liar it’s not I must do so ! If you are going to hell it’s mean I must follow you! I’m not deaf or blind.
@juliaabusaad1861
7 ай бұрын
@@jeremycrawford4004 every Christian authority will tell you the same . But you won’t listen even then because you found your own truth with suitable for you. Believe me beliefs in Islam every revert grows after talking to Christians like you. My praise be to Allah Almighty.
@juliaabusaad1861
7 ай бұрын
@@jeremycrawford4004 I bear witness that there is no god worthy of worship but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger and prophet.
I don’t think you guys understand how impressive brother Muhammad Ali is, he knows more about the Bible than every Christian he has ever debbated. MashaAllag, may Allah reward you brother
@MohammadAliKhalil
4 ай бұрын
He has photographic memory 100%
@trulyamar
3 ай бұрын
@@MohammadAliKhalilhe takes notes on verses, context, meaning, etc. (I’m assuming) which is a good way to organize all evidence, and to store and come back to it.
@trulyamar
3 ай бұрын
May Allah reward him Ameen
@cutechicken1877
3 ай бұрын
@@trulyamar Aamiin
@Jay_alexia
2 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah
This christian at the start of the video : Trinity is clear in the bible. This christian after 10 mins : No place in bible says God is 3 in 1 Lol 😂😂
@welcometolife4237
Жыл бұрын
You just need to believe. And start to crucify Jesus
@mirkcurry5532
Жыл бұрын
exactly how blind faith makes you incoherent.
@onetouhid
Жыл бұрын
It's a shame these Christians don't realise that they are defending the incoherent words of men. They need to first accept that divine words has to be faultless, but they don't go in with that understanding.
@osmanxxrngxx1369
Жыл бұрын
☠️😂 Yea 9:46 they are deluded wallahi but they will wake up when their soul is taken.
@hafizahmad5013
Жыл бұрын
@@welcometolife4237 clearly blind faith. cant you see that?
alhamdulilah I'm a Muslim for 13 years now Islam really make sense... Thank you Allah Almighty for guiding me ❤❤
@Sardarji-bq6oj
8 ай бұрын
How does it make sense ? Flat earth 😂
@redx12ae33
7 ай бұрын
nice, same as me
When they say “Trinity is a mystery”, then you know they are ‘trained and programmed’ to use that as an excuse to not explain it.
@homtanks7259
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@PakyuzRcMalaysia
Жыл бұрын
Because they dont have any explanation
@serious123
Жыл бұрын
@@PakyuzRcMalaysia i have an explanation
@JesusisaMuslim
Жыл бұрын
@@Hannestv4607 My channel debunks Christianity.
@yakuzashorts869
Жыл бұрын
@@Hannestv4607 Jesus don't know the hour!so...the trinity broke here🤷
Brother Muhammad Ali, this guy Tresor came to our Dawah camp in Surrey, Canada 2-3 weeks ago. We talked for about 4 hours, he saw everything and yet he was ignorant to accept the truth. After looking at him I just remembered Quran Chapter 2 verse 146 "Those We have given the Scripture recognize this ˹Prophet˺ as they recognize their own children. Yet a group of them hides the truth knowingly." But I am glad that through your channel many other non-Muslims would be attracted towards Islam after watching his ignorance and the loop-holes in Christianity.
@gumsy5359
3 ай бұрын
Masha'allah
I am a born Muslim and i learn a lot from you brother jazakALLAH
You will end up losing brain cells when discussing with a trinitarian
@ismaeel_914
Жыл бұрын
I went through psychological trauma trying to read the Bible
@mangostaryt8018
Жыл бұрын
@@ismaeel_914 nahhh ur violating at this point😂
@LoganSewell83
Жыл бұрын
Wait until you get caught in the same room with an Evangelist and a Calvinist.
@kuragididat3402
11 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for Tresor, he is listening to argue his belief . The Bible says something clear and he tries to twist his belief into the Bible even though his belief doesn’t fit.
@theintruder6085
9 ай бұрын
@@ismaeel_914😂😂😂😂😂😂
“When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.” ― Desmond Tutu
Every time Christians speak on the bible and try to interpret it into their own way, they always walk themselves into blasphemy and absurdity. It really highlights how we should only speak with knowledge. May Allah reward our brother for all his work!
Before I became a Muslim, I was raised in an old school southern Church of Christ. NO MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, we went to church EVERY DAY, sometimes twice a day, and absolutely NO MENTION of a trinity. I honestly thought the Trinity was part of the Catholic Church. My first time even hearing about Christians obsessing over the idea of the trinity is when I was learning about Islam. We never did father, son, holy spirit. We never even used terms like “Holy Ghost”. So just listening to people talk about a Trinity is really interesting. I’m not judging them, I’m just truly fascinated. We just were never taught that Jesus pbuh and God are the same entity, and we were actually taught that Jesus pbuh is only the [very important] son of God. Church of Christ is extremely literal, and they don’t go around making up their own conclusions to what is in the Bible. Of course, it should be common knowledge that the Bible has been tampered with repeatedly, so Alhamdulillah for Islam. But it can be difficult to break delusion when you have been given the “okay” by other humans to make up your own ideas of Christianity, because that is essentially what Christianity has become. Anything goes, everything is okay, and you can do whatever you want without true consequences.
@anasbanaggar
Жыл бұрын
Most of them want to win debate for the seek of it The superiority over others is what drives them, not their salvation
@abdulhassan784
Жыл бұрын
May Allah guide all of mankind
@xyz3702
Жыл бұрын
'Without true consequences' im absolutely agree
@MiDoowBa
Жыл бұрын
MashaAllah Allahuma baarik
@nosmokejazwinski6297
Жыл бұрын
@@deadpoolstrikesagain3914trinity predates colonialism and it has nothing to do with race
"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land." Jomo Kenyatta
@oromopeace5554
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@abdirahmanhagi1616
Жыл бұрын
😂
@shabnumnawaz6860
Жыл бұрын
You’ve so eloquently explained the truth !
@bakripalo7491
11 ай бұрын
What a strong self explanatory comment . This is reality. I could not stop to laugh
@sapiahabdulaziz8978
7 ай бұрын
😂
The foot, the football and Messi analogy didn't last a minute 😂
@taherzrelli8514
9 ай бұрын
Hahaha they think their examples are smart until they meet a brother like Mohamed 😅
@68OZ68
4 ай бұрын
Yea people heard him try the same analogy with Ronaldo this time :P
@tamimazizadah
2 ай бұрын
That argument had only one leg to stand on.
@Khalid-Haji
2 ай бұрын
@@tamimazizadah 😂😂😂 I see what you did there 😂
To be a Christian you have to be really good at verbal gymnastics
@ermalkrasniqi2302
5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭verbal gymnastics
@HadzreeHadzree
5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣... Alhamdulilah for Islam
@phantomtr1
4 ай бұрын
Mental too
@ahmadshahahmadi6661
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@alcazar123456
4 ай бұрын
Or sprinting so you can run away.
May Allah preserve you ameen!
@onetouhid
Жыл бұрын
@@desmondmansingh5175Why don't you gather your evidence and join the live steam and prove to us why you think we are not being truthful.
@Assyaroni
Жыл бұрын
@@onetouhid do not incourage him, brother..we all know he'll just embarrassing himself
@meisalmussagy4057
Жыл бұрын
@@onetouhid It was at that moment he knew...
This Christian ( and most of them)sounds like a western politician!!! Asked as to how can you do that? It’s against the law !!!!And his answer was “ we make up the law as we go along !!!😂😂
@ghiaspiracha302
Жыл бұрын
Buzzing 🐝 oviioiiioxxiii Senor, simply because there is pre-requisition for a Politician to be a Lawyer or *LIAR who know the Law to some degree, who could speak from both sides of his/her mouth at the same time. The *Laws are formulated by the Lawyers with built-in *Flaws, so to take advantage as and when it is in their interest. The 'LIARS' read and understand the Law, only the way they can twist it. So never get chummy with a Politician/Lawyer.....will never benefit you. Confused and Scared Christians are NO different; they are 'Mystified' cannot dare question the INSANITY of their Priests/Pastors as to what they are forced to believe whatever is in their various ambiguously translated so-called 'Biblez'....NO one has read his/her any of their bibles, page-by-page, end to end and yet call it 'holy'...
@mannmann8998
Жыл бұрын
Why God (Jesus) send himself to the lost sheep of Israel 😆
@hannawurst6064
Жыл бұрын
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@hannawurst6064
Жыл бұрын
@Mann Mann Just because Allah does not know that God became man according to Chr..! Are you arguing as if God had not become man according to Chri.! Wow what a straw man pointing out the ignorance of the Koran writer!
@anuarismail8070
Жыл бұрын
Can God be seriously practicing double standards (God forbid) or there is a huge flaw in the Christians beliefs? God destroyed the disbelieving and transgressing people during the time of Prophet Noah (the great flood) and Prophet Lot (Sodom and Gomorrah) after their Prophets have more than adequately warned them, but instead God sacrifice His own Son (or is it Himself?) by being Crucified on the Cross and thus died for the sins of others. Surely the All Knowing God cannot be practicing double standards...but it is the humans who corrupted the teachings of their Prophets and went astray. Peace be to all.
This Chanel is under rated. Th knowledge is rich. The approach is nice. There is no hostility.
"It is not their eyes that are blind. But their heart.... "
Tresor just proved that Christianity today is new religion created by Paul.
The Muslim Lantern is pure 🔥🔥🔥
Hand full of ambiguous verses that are misinterpreted and crumble when confronted with context and logic vs. An entire book that is consistent, clear, and unadulterated. Bonus points: supporting tradition of the messenger (SAW) who conveyed the message. This is Christianity vs. Islam I’m truly thankful that Allah guided me towards Islam. As a revert I can honestly say that there is absolutely no other feeling comparable or equal to the peace that I feel in my heart because of Islam and perusing nearness to Allah. Alhamdulillah ❤
I was having a conversation regarding religion with one of my close friends who is a Xtian. He found it hard to believe that in the Quran, challenges people to bring forth any book like it. I told him that before I chose to become a muslim, I had to critique the holy book instead of just blindly following it. Most Xtians don't challenge the Bible rather they just read it ( or pick and choose) for the sake of it and say that they believe. He then came back and said that the fact that I challenged the Quran shows a level of distrust towards it and that he wouldn't dare to challenge the Bible bcoz he believes it in its entirety. I told him, that he will never understand the Bible that way. But all I can do is pray to Allah (SWT) to guide him to the truth b4 its to late for him and others like him.
@neku2741
Жыл бұрын
100% my brother. This is serious stuff, our salvation rest on this scripture. It has to at least pass the basic test of being challenged and have no contradiction.
@paulzainuddin
Жыл бұрын
@Neku It's also very surprising how you can point out the contradictions in the Bible to a Xtian and yet they will still deny that it is a contradiction and quickly jump on defensive mode with no base.
@enamulhaquejoy6962
Жыл бұрын
Christians have blind faith
@Kay8B
Жыл бұрын
This is blind faith... This is what seperates us from the Xtians. Allah tells us to use our intellect & reason to question everything so that we can build faith and understanding. The only thing muslims have blind faith in is the unseen because it is "unseen".
@aboriginalalex
Жыл бұрын
What is an Xtian?
Watching this Christian man talking is like watching a heavily drunk man trying his best to walk straight.
@fatimab.9941
9 ай бұрын
😂
@ramlangoddos4425
8 ай бұрын
There is no way Christians can beat the logical minds of Muslims. Masha Allah bro Muhammad Ali handled the subject very well. Extremely well. May Allah preserve him for his vast knowledge of Islam and the Bible.
@acakbanget1790
7 ай бұрын
Round and Round
This brother is sincere and polite. May Allah guide him to the right path.
I somehow Like this brother, may Allah guide him and save him from Jahannam 🤲
@kvstos.
7 ай бұрын
Ameen
There is no way someone would come to the conclusion of a trinity from reading the bible by themselves, without being indoctrinated to the trinity first. No chance at all.
@iSundae17
7 ай бұрын
There are Christian’s who believe Jesus PBUH is a prophet, they are a sect of Unitarism and evangelicals.
@angorachic
4 ай бұрын
I am a Christian and I think I agree with you.
Watching these kind of debate makes my faith in Islam stronger than before. MasyaAllah, Alhamdulillah... I was educated in Catholicism (even though I was born Muslim) when I was a young kid but had never understand why God had to be dead on the cross. And I found nothing divine in Jesus AS that makes him a "God". That's why I always went back to Islam because it is very much clear and precise in Islam. I always found the answers given by Christians were confusing and just jibber jabber... I love the Al-Ikhlaas surah very much and I almost always recite in in my daily salah (pray): "Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One""; "Allah, the Eternal Refuge"; "He neither begets nor is born"; "Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Quran 112:1-4
@yayraushgoldi7586
7 ай бұрын
Subhanallah may Allah strengthen you more❤❤❤
@TheLeilacorres
7 ай бұрын
Alhamdullilah i reverted to Islam from catholicism ❤
@maulinux1
5 ай бұрын
Christianity has no answers said by the person writing a senseless comment!!! The answers you found are disrespectful to my faith ? It seems to me that your comment indicates that you have not found any answers.
Masha Allah Muhammad, your unique way of dismantling the Divinity of Jesus and the Trinity is flawless. It kept your guest guessing all the time.
You know as they said, "If you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.." Barakallahu fik, Muhammad Ali.. keep up your good work..it shall benefit those who reason, insha Allah.
If Thomas believed Jesus was God all along, why would he be shocked that Jesus was in front of him? So of course he didn't believe Jesus was God!
Trinity is explicitly explained in the Bible and then goes ranting all the Bible and couldn't find a single explicit verse! May Allah guide him and may Allah forgive all of our sins, kudos to Br Muhammad, grow more my man❤️❤️
@hannawurst6064
Жыл бұрын
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; = Amen Every Christian believes that! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; = Amen Every Christian believes that! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; = Amen Every Christian believes that! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* And there is none like unto Him. = Amen Every Christian believes that!
@hannawurst6064
Жыл бұрын
@Jin Tonceng Just because Allah does not know that God became man according to Chr..! Are you arguing as if God had not become man according to Chri.! Wow what a straw man pointing out the ignorance of the Koran writer!
@hannawurst6064
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe! The writer of the Koran didn't even know that God became man according to Christianity! The writer of the Koran did not even know the most important foundations of Christianity!
@NouraAsany
3 ай бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 have you even read the quran, and why would the quran would prove smth that it's wrong, why would they talk about ALL the incoherence in the Bible? Quran is made for muslims for them to be guided, and Muhammad (SAW) was send to spread the Word of God, there is no writer of the quran ( no human author) it is the Word of Allah that was written on paper well preserved so it can't be falsified or forgotten. By the way the quran is the prototype of a book we'll preserved on a table up there with God
@NouraAsany
3 ай бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 so where's is the mistake ??
Sometimes i wonder why they are not sincere to themselves. May Allah opens their hearts to see the truth
@imahmud
Жыл бұрын
Their intention is to win the debate. الله اعلم
@taherzrelli8514
9 ай бұрын
They close minded usually plus they don't know what does it mean hell 😢
Truth is only harsh if you're unable to face it. ~ Stewart Stafford
@ghiaspiracha302
Жыл бұрын
Salam oviioiiioxxiii Christianity > Mystery> Confusion> Insanity = 0+0+0= 0
@abdinoorzakaria4609
Жыл бұрын
0+0+0+0+0+0=0 also
"So have they not traveled through the earth and have hearts by which to reason and ears by which to hear? For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts." 22:46
@JesusisaMuslim
Жыл бұрын
My channel debunks Christianity. ..
@kadijachtoun8456
Жыл бұрын
@@JesusisaMuslim Yes I have seen your comments in some Muslim channels! Alhamdullilah there is nothing like the rationality of Islam ☝️☝️🕋 Your comments help so much, but if people's hearts are blinded and sealed then nothing can guide them...😕 We ask Allah to guide us in his path, the path of those who have been blessed, inshallah.
May Allah guide our Christian brother 🙏 he was very respectful and came for a genuine understanding.
It was a respectful session. Hope Tresor continues to join for convo with brother Muhammad.
Despite all the explicit texts stating otherwise, he chooses the ambiguous ones to support his claim. They are seriously in confusion.
This dude needs to understand that the brother Muhammed seems to know more of his book than he does🤣
Brother , please post more often. I learn so much from yr videos. 1 or 2 videos a week ain't enough. But may allah reward u for yr efforts.
I have read the book of Thomas and the apocryphon of John. And Jesus, in his own words, claims no divinity in those works. Please do not use Thomas as an example, if you have not read these works. This is so painful to watch. As a Muslim revert, listening to this Christian stumble around in confusion is just painful. It's as bad as being sober and having to deal with someone who is completely inebriated on drugs and alcohol. Nothing they do or say really makes any sense. You find yourself chuckling, laughing, and then sometimes feeling a little bit angry and overwhelmed with righteous indignation....Sbr... You have an incredible gift from Allah...Sbr. Your ability to remain calm in these conversations is truly an art. I would love to talk one day, Br. Mohammed in Sha Allah! It's my dua that the Christian Brothers and Sisters find the deeper love an understanding that happens in the relationship between you and Isa AS. When you finally decide to follow his instructions and his example of worshiping the father alone with no partners. Even the "Lord's Prayer" reflects this directly. In the opening of the holy Quran, sura Fatiha. reads much like Isa AS prayer "Our, Father who art in heaven, Holy be THY name".."Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem, Alhamdu lillaahi Rabbil ‘aalameen" is addressing a single entity as devine, and by through worship and fulfilling obligations, giving it your submission or surrender. Not my will but you will be done Allah! Just as Isa AS and every other prophet and messenger of the Abrahamic religions tought, ending with the final message in the series for all of mankind to embrace, The Quran protected, preserved and delivered in its original entity by the final messenger of Allah, Prophet Mohammad Abdullah Rasool Salaa Allahu ealayh Wasalam! In Sha Allah. Alhamdulilah!
I'm a muslim, and watching how many Christian preacher explaining about trinity, somehow makes me think of one thing... what if the Christian talked about "will"... they talked how God manifest in Jesus and Holy Spirit... and I never listened one person talked about being the representation of God, not God Himself... If some King ask someone to be his representative to read a decree in faraway land, this person would become the representation on the king's will... mocking this person mean mocking the king, and his decision could be interpret as the king decision... this representation's power all come from the king, and he's not the king himself... still makes sense if Jesus was the messenger, the representation, not the Lord Himself... Or maybe, they think Jesus and Holy Spirit was like avatar?? imagine you play MMORPG game, you have a character you made in the game world, you could give him some background story, and you could control it as much as you like... it's not the same person as "you" who played the game, but since it's controlled by you, you could also say it's you on the game... Sorry if this doesn't make any sense, this is the best I could do about understanding trinity
Subhanallah the struggle was insane honestly
Brother Muhammad Ali is The real Muhammed Ali, not for boxing but for Dawaah😁
Thank you for this clarification as I am finding out about Islam.
@topmultichann6666
4 ай бұрын
I encourage you to learn more about Islam with an open heart and surely you will find Truth
Poor him… he was so miss lead by his church. Inshallah God will put him in the right path.
الحمد لله على نعمة الإسلام
soooOoo.. I am a christian but I love watching your videos, you are so polite and nice
@amirdex
5 ай бұрын
ITS tottaly ok sis lol may god open ur heart to the truth
The legend has post a video❤
@MoroccanARROWS
Жыл бұрын
BarakAllahu fiki the brother doesn't like to be praised and there is a good reason for it.. (not only the brother but anyone whom you don't know if praising them would benefit them or on the contrary would harm them). (Please read more about العجب and الشرك الخفي). Narrated Abu Bakra: A man praised another man in front of the Prophet (ﷺ) . The Prophet (ﷺ) said to him, *"Woe to you, you have cut off your companion's neck, you have cut off your companion's neck," repeating it several times* and then added, *"Whoever amongst you has to praise his brother should say, 'I think that he is so and so, and Allah knows exactly the truth, and I do not confirm anybody's good conduct before Allah, but I think him so and so,' if he really knows what he says about him."* حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ سَلَامٍ أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَهَّابِ حَدَّثَنَا خَالِدٌ الْحَذَّاءُ عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ أَبِي بَكْرَةَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ أَثْنَى رَجُلٌ عَلَى رَجُلٍ عِنْدَ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَقَالَ *وَيْلَكَ قَطَعْتَ عُنُقَ صَاحِبِكَ قَطَعْتَ عُنُقَ صَاحِبِكَ مِرَارًا* ثُمَّ قَالَ *مَنْ كَانَ مِنْكُمْ مَادِحًا أَخَاهُ لَا مَحَالَةَ فَلْيَقُلْ أَحْسِبُ فُلَانًا وَاللَّهُ حَسِيبُهُ وَلَا أُزَكِّي عَلَى اللَّهِ أَحَدًا أَحْسِبُهُ كَذَا وَكَذَا إِنْ كَانَ يَعْلَمُ ذَلِكَ مِنْهُ* Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2662 In-book reference : Book 52, Hadith 26
@Ramez_0
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@@MoroccanARROWSsorry for my lack of knowledge brother, all praises are due to Allah and thank you for letting me know. ❤
@MoroccanARROWS
Жыл бұрын
@@Ramez_0 Barakallahu fika akhi and may He grant you best reward اللهم اجعلنا ممن يستمعون القول فيتبعون أحسنه.. O Allah make us among those who listen to a speech and follow the best of it نفعنا الله وإياك May Allah benefit us
I feel bad for these Christians sometimes. They feel like they must defend the indefensible and explain the unexplainable and the holy spirit doesn't even help them out!
Everytime he says *it's so clear* , he makes it more n more confusing 🤯🤯🤯
Mashallah you are so knowledgeable about quran and Bible at the same time and on top of that you know about science too ... SubhanAllah brother 🧡...
@Iamdianadee
Жыл бұрын
No he isn’t 😂😂😂😂I’ve watched some of his video. He has no idea about the Bible only the basics. Not anywhere near scholar level.
@DIRECTEDBYH
11 ай бұрын
apparently he knows more about it than most christians, bc every christian has his own differentiat interpretation be humble and sincere as God commanded and you‘ll see the trinity is a tool build by the devil and hypocrites
@nghaider
9 ай бұрын
Knowledge is POWER.
@maulinux1
5 ай бұрын
@@DIRECTEDBYH While respect should be a tool created by God but you don't seem to know it. In fact, you don't respect my faith in the slightest and you invite me to insult yours.
@DIRECTEDBYH
5 ай бұрын
I didn't insult your faith. I just said how it is. Maybe I was too blunt, I would never respond to a trinitarian this way out of nowhere. I responded to a ignorant comment, I gave back some harsh truth to him to give him some reality check. If there is something about Islam you want to claim do it, we will in schaa Allah refute it, not just talk to be right. it's not a game. This is about truth and eternatiy and you drag people into this when you talk without even looking at different perspectives. It's just simple truth that trinity cannot be explained. Many Christians refer to it as a mysterium. My Main problem is that this belief is not from Jesus as but from paul and churchfathers and you guys don't even question it. Or am I wrong? @@maulinux1
Its amazing when the heart is blocked that nothing goes in! Subhan-Allah
I'd feel utterly ashamed of a god that can get killed on a wooden peg. Who in their right mind wouldn't?
Trinity is clear - takes 45 minutes to explain it.
@wassimharzli336
Жыл бұрын
and fails xD
@selmanpinarli
8 ай бұрын
yet it took Mohammad 20 seconds to explain Tawheed in the very end of the video. Truth is fast, simple and convenient.
@ramlangoddos4425
8 ай бұрын
If the Trinity is clear, who died on the Cross? Why NOT three dead at the same time? This is funny. If the Three are One why only one choosed death?
@Khalid-Haji
7 ай бұрын
@@ramlangoddos4425 valid point
@SuDio919
6 ай бұрын
And still couldn't
Thank Allah for Guiding me !!! EVERYTIME I watch a video debating Christianity I say Alhamdulillah!!!
I watch these circular arguments and I say Alhamdulillah for the guidance from Allah!
The only thing that is clear is that Tresor wants to believe it.
The more I see these type of conversations I see and understand the meaning of people that ignore the clear verses and search the less clear ones..
It was so beautiful to hear the ayat brother Muhammad reading in the last seconds of the video. Jazakallah khair
Mohammed Ali is a smart smart guy and may Allah SWA continue to increase him in knowledge
22:00 he says jesus submits to God? Welcome to Islam brother😂
This is an example of a healthy conversation I am pleased to see good character from both sides may Allah guide us and open our hearts to the truth and give us firmness in it ameen
@fatimab.9941
9 ай бұрын
Amin
I knew this will go in circles. Well presented brother Muhammad. May Allah protect you.
Oh my god, just to satisfied his believe, he even change the use of '! '...
Allah Hu Akbar. Also may peace and blessings be upon Prophet Jesus whom we love for the sake of Allah.
'But he has the other foot' ...damn brother Muhammed is something..I laughed so hard
I really feel bad for Tresor he’s really trying so hard to make it make sense but it’s just not working. May Allah guide him
The most shocking thing is is they can say it with a straight face that they believe this is from the Bible and that it's true. When obviously it's not!
I just love this guy called Muhammad Ali for the sake of Allah. He's too ground in Islamic injunction. He's trying his best propagating true Islam. I wish I be like him in term of knowledge of Islam. May Allah continue to guide and assist and increase his knowledge
muslim : but it's clear here in your book that jesus said "i didn't claim to be god " christian: HE's GOD
La hawla wa la kowa ila bi allah..the worst thing about being ignorant is not admitting your ignorance
May Allah SWT keep brother Mohamed steadfast and healthy and increase his knowledge.
ما شاء الله The Modern Day Ahmed Deedat. May Allah always grant you impenetrable conversation. 🤲 🙏
These debates make me laugh , baffle me and give me a headache all at the same time
45:00 May Allah preserve and keep our brother Ali with the blessings and knowledge Ameen 🤲🏼 great stuff ❤
I like this guy. May Allah guide him
Allah bless you. Idk how you always stay so patient and smiling. They irritate me so much and just go in circles
Amazing conversation, well sort out facts....kudus to Muhammed and the guest. May Allah continue to increase you in knowledge and wisdom Muhammed
I love this brother moh ali so good eloquent and very knowledgeable of the bible and proving that jesus is not god
I really hope the brother Tressor goes back and watches this video with an open and objective mind.. In this he may find guidance Insha Allah.
We had been taught in our school that the Arab was very highly eloquent in words, poets, and literacy stuffs. Now I saw it on this brother 😆. I dont know your name yet brother, but I will subscribe to your channel. Btw, due to our brother Dawah channels spread out in public and youtube, I think many of them now is on making the next revision will insert ayat or verse about 3 persons being 1 person 😂, or 3 locations means 1 location😂
An hour later and the confusion still remains.
@Exposing21
10 ай бұрын
QURAN: Most of them follow nothing but conjecture. Surely conjecture can never be a substitute for truth
This Christian is a Muslim but he doesn't know it yet 😅 brother Mohamed mashaAllah ❤ good job
They don't even read their Bible that's so sad
@ghiaspiracha302
Жыл бұрын
Mary Kary oviioiiioxxiii Bible, bibles, bibles..... Which Particular one and WHY ? "OT, NT, NRV, KJV, IRV. NIV, NAV, NSV, NLT, RSV, NKJV, RLB, GNB GIB,TNAB" They are all in 'English'.........................
Mashallah
How many generations they've deceived, only Allah knows, He does not do wrong, nor does He forget, poor them and poor him..!
How can God be submissive if this guy hears himself he would understand
It is like talking to a zombie. I have no idea where you get your patience when you're talking with trinitarian. Jazakallah khairan
So confused 🤔 Alhumdulillha for being a Muslim ❤
19:20 Ali straight up threw his analogy out the window by how silly it sounded 😂
Subhan 'Allah Alhumdulilah Wa li ilahaillilah Wa Allah O Akbar ☝️♥️ Peace and blessings of Allah Swt be upon all the prophets messengers and the companions RA and the Muslim Ummah Ameen yah rabbil Aalameen ♥️☝️ Mahshaallah tabarak Allah Swt ☝️♥️ Beautifully explained my brother Mohammad Ali Woe to the Christians and the Jews who have corrupted the once true books of Allah Swt just for their own desires and gains Woe to them again and again Mahshaallah tabarak Allah Swt one Qur'an far east far West up north and down south Unlike the bibles that are out there 🤔🤔
La ilaha illAllah 🌹☝🏻
God has never at any time given up his authority to anyone . God is always God .
May Allah guide us all ameen
He seemed like a honest man
So they’d rather use vague words and lines, out of order, out of context and ignore clear, concise, and direct lines... ya Allah, may they be guided inshallah