Choosing Your Main
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Choosing your main is one of the most important decisions you'll make in a fighting game, and it's important to pick one that fits your style.
Are you playing the right character?
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Smash Ultimate Tier Grid: imgur.com/EmQ0txx
'analog': / analogcast
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This was all just an elaborate roast of Palutena players.
@romansrevengethethirdstrik8086
4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but I cant like it
@romansrevengethethirdstrik8086
4 жыл бұрын
I was referring to the like number being at a *Nice* number
@chiliandcornbread09
4 жыл бұрын
Random Person you watch nairo playing palu and tell me she doesn’t require creativity.
@chiliandcornbread09
4 жыл бұрын
Random Person you could say that about most top tiers in ultimate and smash 4
@LunaVictoria9
4 жыл бұрын
@@chiliandcornbread09 show literally one clip of him doing something unique with palu that other palus don't do. And i really disagree. The only relatively deep characters in ultimate are joker, snake, shulk and maybe a few more
This was fantastically structured, Rishi. You’ve got a great voice for these types of videos, too.
@jorgenbluered2151
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome sauce or Asoom sauce?
@seanathan1
4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgenbluered2151 awesome sauce
@freddiekruger3339
4 жыл бұрын
I always pronounced it as "ayyyyy some sauce" in my head. Like someone was really happy to see guacamole at a party or something.
@justawaterbottle9414
4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgenbluered2151 Amsa Sauce
@braxaculee
4 жыл бұрын
@Freddie Kruger I used to pronounce it ayyysam suuuahhhs and I don’t know why
He really telling KJH to main puff instead lol
Honestly, I knew it was Mang0 from the double laser off the ledge lol
@LANBobYonson
4 жыл бұрын
thou shalt double laser from the ledge
@Stop.Arguing
4 жыл бұрын
It's not safe meme
@warguy6474
4 жыл бұрын
same
@arabmunny
4 жыл бұрын
Double lasers are gangster as fuck your get so much off it when it lands
@BurTahPur666
4 жыл бұрын
@@LANBobYonson "Unless you got a big ol' dick"
This makes choosing a main look like an artistic direction and I like it
@VenatorXVenator
4 жыл бұрын
It is!
@nottobay6768
4 жыл бұрын
@@VenatorXVenator Imagine finding a character you like the idea behind but just get get the inputs for, that's basically me trying Ice Climbers. :(
Llod is Yin, Trif is Yang, and Armada is the Buddha
@ariesomega2487
4 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated comment.
@leaffinite3828
4 жыл бұрын
Armadas meditation 4 stock lol, he just had to tap into nirvana for a second
@E-Brightvoid
4 жыл бұрын
Armada should be gamer of the year every fucking year, except this one. This one was Mang0s year
@indigoroger1473
4 жыл бұрын
@@E-Brightvoid so was 2009 2010 2012 2013 2014 but sure
@s0so328
4 жыл бұрын
jazaniac lol I thought you meant Andrew Yang at first
One thing I found interesting getting into melee, was that at first I was sure I was gonna be a fox main. I knew I wanted to get in peoples face. I wanted to put people on the back foot. I wanted to be aggressively dominant. But it didn't click. I decided maybe I wanted to focus on spacing and punish game, so I tried marth. Nope. Sure Falco will be that sweet spot then. I love grinding tech skill, and I loved seeing how top players used laser. Nope. Then one day I tried out samus. Turns out, my brain is better on the back foot. Turns out I am far better at reading my enemies approach than I am at reading their defense. After 2 and a half years of playing fox, I was getting better results with samus after 2 weeks. Sometimes you never really know which style is meant for you, until you experience it for yourself, rather than trying to replicate what you think you should be.
@jessedelaria828
4 жыл бұрын
I wanna main bowser in melee
@ariesomega2487
4 жыл бұрын
This is so true. I thought I could be an agressive player to but after a few months I just realized Im much better at defense and being safe
@averagejoessb3110
4 жыл бұрын
It's weird cause I wanted to be aggressive and cool but decided to main sheik. Little did I know. I still main her though but she's lowkey pretty dumb.
@Soda_kill
4 жыл бұрын
I played Captain Falcon for years and did pretty decent, and then I tried Marth out and just did so much better. It’s a good idea to try stretching your legs with character selection every now and then.
@thugtearsofficial1337
4 жыл бұрын
who did you end up maining?
8:49 Damn, the roast to Palu mains was real
@Kason76
4 жыл бұрын
Palutena is literally a Karen type character
@ohDJ_
4 жыл бұрын
Felt that in my soul, I have so many palutenas in my region that are clearly carried by a braindead character
@chiliandcornbread09
4 жыл бұрын
Random Person you didn’t even have the creativity to think of a different reply LMFAO
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, down throw > back air is an extremely important kill confirm for her that has to be attack cancelled in order to be true, so Palutena isn't 100% braindead.
@wavy_kate
4 жыл бұрын
Luigi Linguine bro just nair
Rishi and llod are siblings? What the hell did your parents put in the water that made you guys so damn good at melee?
@pIayingwithmahwii
4 жыл бұрын
heroin
@The_SOB_II
4 жыл бұрын
melee
@tjtribble.
4 жыл бұрын
Or they just practiced together a lot
@shreyd4198
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao they’ve been going to tourneys since brawl
@thegamingguy1
4 жыл бұрын
Brown
“For players without personality or originality, Palutena is perfect” Truer words have never been spoken
@idogaming3532
8 ай бұрын
I'd say Ness
6:07 "Seperate fact from Fiction" I see what you did there hehe
Doing the slipperiest man in melee luigi dirty smh
@jmarvins
4 жыл бұрын
he used to be a weeg main too
@AfterAttackTV
4 жыл бұрын
all luigi players are the same wavedash around throwing out downsmash until you get something nair out of every combo act hype when you get that RNG
@mrbobtehbuildah
4 жыл бұрын
@@AfterAttackTV as a looge, yeah lmao
@NaJk93
4 жыл бұрын
@@AfterAttackTV Not wrong. But god damn is it a noob stomper lol.
@sp1nda
4 жыл бұрын
Damn some of y'all never heard of Abate and it breaks my small, fragile heart
Seriously great video. My only issue is that I wish it was an hour long. I would love a series going into how different characters top players differ in style. The way you talk about the game is both complex but accessible. Seriously great stuff man :)
this man can throw they spiciest of meatballs and still get away with making a great video analysis
ive been in the melee scene for like a year and a half and I just learned rishi and llod are brothers
@benk6153
4 жыл бұрын
Phat and Sassy same
@NaJk93
4 жыл бұрын
Dude i have been following since 2013. Had no idea.
@PickyMcCritical
3 жыл бұрын
Dude I've been following since mid-2000's, and I had no idea.
@davelabonte7806
3 жыл бұрын
Android is my brudder.
This is a great video and I'm glad we aren't using the language of "style" anymore to talk about choosing a character. Who you are is what you want to do in smash, so you have to pick characters that let you do what you want to do.
how to pick a melee main: like tech skill? main fox don't like tech skill? main fox's lasers
@dddmemaybe
4 жыл бұрын
bruh. try doing a short hop b-turn-around double laser out of a retreating dash 10+ times a stock without SDing.
@filthycasul1804
4 жыл бұрын
@@dddmemaybe it was a joke lmao
@dddmemaybe
4 жыл бұрын
@@filthycasul1804 *o o f*
@lofy1263
4 жыл бұрын
@@dddmemaybe Saying r/wooosh to you would be dumb and unoriginal and would contribute absolutely nothing to the conversation, but you just said oof to someone. so... r/wooosh
@Delightfully_Bitchy
2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was saying oof to himself for missing such an obviously tongue in cheek comment. If not, yeah that was pretty embarrassing.
I think the aesthetic of a character matters too. The sound effects, animations, and concepts behind the moves of certain characters are just so sick IMO.
@E-Brightvoid
4 жыл бұрын
Harrison Atlas WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO -Luigi mains
@Lenno94
4 жыл бұрын
@@E-Brightvoid yuh-yuh-yuh Yipee!
@linkXness
Жыл бұрын
To quote franz: "lol mario looks sick in a doctors costume, thats why im playing him"
6:22 H*ck yeah he circled Young Link
@moncay3238
4 жыл бұрын
And Donkey
really thought you'd say "main DK" on the black screen at the end
You know rishi, after watching this video, I might need to rethink a lot of the competetive things I do. After hitting walls in the majority of games, digital or physical, I might need to go back to the basics. Maybe a refresher is what I need. Thanks for being the motivator to bettering myself as a player.
"You don't know what you're going to see or hear..but you know you're going to feel something." Literally couldn't be said any better. God I love this game.
this was like a great melee thesis on art analysis that intro was gorgeous!
Captain falcon for life. If he doesnt have F-zero Atleast he has me.
@brandon-cs7fw
4 жыл бұрын
almost haiku
@jorgenbluered2151
4 жыл бұрын
@@brandon-cs7fw cap falcon for life If he doesnt have F-ZERO Atleast he has me.
@austinsroche
4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgenbluered2151 *snap snap snap snap snap*
@coolcool5181
4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgenbluered2151 I think your 2nd line 8 syllables, not 7.
@jorgenbluered2151
4 жыл бұрын
@@coolcool5181 im pretty sure its 5 7 5 grammar.yourdictionary.com/style-and-usage/rules-for-writing-haiku.html
Dude this was incredible! I'd totally love to see more like this!
Rishi's rock steady tone through the Fox Propaganda and Palutena segments is everything I wanted
Being a newcomer to melee this makes me excited for the journey of learning in this game. Its going to be a ton of fun. Nice video btw, the things you pointed out were super in depth and really helped my mindset
Adore the video and the shade sprinkled throughout. Can't wait for more uploads.
Can we get a video discussing those tier graph placements? I've got some serious questions about this high complexity Lucina and low complexity shulk.
@Kaz999998
4 жыл бұрын
I'm also confused on how Ness is more complex than Lucas. Ness has almost been completely figured out but Lucas is largely left untapped.
@anormalstopsign74
4 жыл бұрын
the complexity was about ideas psure sheik is incredibly complex but her game plan is relatively the same each match, inverse for palu who has a simple set of options that string together but can switch up her game plan easily
@dddmemaybe
4 жыл бұрын
The complexity I think he means, is about how many different types of gameplay can they use. Shulk has no projectile game and he only has rushdown when in speed- and maybe jump monados. other than that he is _only_ a spacing character who has bursts of high threat. Lucina being more complex doesn't make any sense because she also doesn't have a projectile nor many special gameplans outside of effectiveness of her spacing game being strong. I think his list is very rushed.
@drewkg14
4 жыл бұрын
all shulk mains are angry.....I PLAYED HIM BECAUSE HES SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST COMPLICATED IM SMUURRRTTT.
Phenomenal video. I love hearing your insight on the game.
What a well made video. This is some seriously good content. Your ability to articulate the complex concepts that you hold is amazing.
I'm going to sub with the expectation of more videos like this. Really interesting stuff
This video really helped reaffirm who I main across the platform fighters I play, so big thanks. Been in & out of a character crisis that started in Smash 4, but I’ve finally settled on who I play/what exactly it is I want out of the characters I play in terms of options & personal expression (Sheik in Ultimate, Maypul/Sylvanos in Rivals, Lucario in PM/P+, & while I don’t play Melee much I’ve been trying to get into it with Fox/Sheik). The complexity/implementation chart for the Ult cast is also super helpful, and does a great job of putting into perspective exactly what it is a player may want to get out of their characters. Everyone’s exact needs/wants are different, but speaking for myself I need good movement and combo/reset potential with most characters I play
Man. This is such an in-depth video and attention grabbing video, that when I went to check the time stamp for the first time, the video only needed 20 seconds to finish. Your voice is superb for analyzing/in-depth type videos and you had my attention the whole way. This video really puts maining a character into perspective, and now has me second-guessing my main. Thanks for this video, you got yourself a subscriber!
This video helped me write the intro for my final essay this semester. Thanks, rishi!
Rish I love this content, I am so excited to see every new vid that you put out.
Hell yea! This video was awesome and I’m excited to start listening to your podcast.
This is the type of content melee needs more of, loved the video.
Great video. Keep up this essay style. Could listen to you talk about melee for hours.
This is an extremely well made video and you earned yourself a sub!
This actually makes so much sense. Well written and nice analysis.
I could watch these kind of videos all day. Good job Rishi keep up the good work.
This is a great video. Best of its kind for any competitive game with fixed avatar choices. You're an intelligent beast.
This vid went way above and beyond what I expected from the title, nice!
I'm literally watching this on a break from writing and it's making me want to go back to my book. Very motivating!
Wow! What a great video I’ve never seen smash compared to an art form before but it makes sense and I feel like I have a better understanding of the game in general now thanks!
Since starting Smash competitively I've been in constant character crisis. I'm gonna have a hard look at who I've played and why, and what aspects of their play I want to keep in the future. Thanks for the video! Good stuff!
@HuSH_cptfalcon
Жыл бұрын
not that's it's been three uears, I'm curious who you settled on
Honestly this video is the most helpful video I've seen on this topic. Love this content. Keep it up.
Always excited to see a new Rishi video, cause I know no matter what the tone is hes gonna kill it
This is an amazing video! Thank you so much
congrats on 10k!
Dude keep these amazing topic video's up!
Lmao the palutena shade. Great video and ty for an great explanation on approaching a character.
Great video. I thought the way you explained the different Peach player's styles was beautiful.
Yo rishi this video was baller good stuff felt like a player tryna learn could really understand!
Super interesting take on the Ultimate tier list!
You make such wonderful content Rishi, you’re a hell of a thinker! I think I’d honestly enjoy your analysis/video essay of any topic.
I'm not even done and this is such an amazing video. Thank you!!!
What a good high quality video. Good work
Great video, keep in mind the balance between music and your voice dad
I could watch you talk about playstyle comparisons all goddamn day. I'll be watching this video pretty often I bet
never heard of llod but the clips you showed were so siick, hes easily one of the most creative players ive seen and im definitely rooting for him from now on
"separating fact from fiction" lol I see you there
@SkarmoryMelee
4 жыл бұрын
is that a spooky's house of jumpscares avatar?
@skibble7444
4 жыл бұрын
@@SkarmoryMelee yes
@skibble7444
4 жыл бұрын
it's one of the paintings in game
struggling since weeks in deciding or rather finding a character that feels "natural" for me to play ur video convinced me in maybe giving several thought on different ones simply by trying to set them up in a different waya
I'm an ult player but love melee too, I've been making fox for a bit but he is just kinda boring for me, I've learned most of foxes tech and it just isnt my style, after watching you video I thought of who I love to watch, plup is my favorite player so I decided I'm gonna put time into sheik, it completely made me want to play the game again, I was really close to quitting, so thank you, I'll send this to all of my smash friends lol
Such a lovely video !!
great video! hope to see more of u
great vid rishi! keep it up!
Great content rishi! Keep it up! 👌
llod beat Hbox in a set recently, too. Crazy stuff, big respect to your brother.
I like this idea, I genuinely think this would be cool to see other smash content creators use a template like this to show their opinions on where the meta stands. Change my mind recommended in 2020 btw
I didn't expect to get an art lesson from a video about melee characters lmfao. Incredible work dude, this is amazing
the trumpet in the background music is right between annoying and perfect, thank you!
This needs more views. This was fantastic
Wow. This is one of the most thoughtful and intelligent pieces of smash content I have ever seen. Incredible. Thank you SmashG0D
Really wonderful video. I respect the effort and execution. I used to be a samus main for 3 years in melee. I picked up samus because I thought she was unique and cool, but I later learned that fox fits me better. I would always try to move forward and be aggressive as samus, which wouldn't work as much and would be frustrating, but ever since I started playing fox, I feel much more free to express my ideas in the game. Your video helped me realize why I love fox and not samus.
great video man!
Amazing vid, subscribed
This is an amazing video, thank you
I'm getting Core-A-Gaming vibes from this video, great production and narration rishi keep it up
Excellent video!
Awesome video!! I thought your ultimate character chart was really interesting...i'm an ultimate player and I'm all about expression which explains why my favorite characters are sheik and joker!
@notkamui9749
4 жыл бұрын
^ Same for me. I've been playing smash competitively since melee. But maining sheik in ult is actually the first time I feel completely in symbiose with my character. She "tells" what I wanna "tell". My Sheik's an extension of myself.
Really really really amazing video.
This a great vid, subbed
Way to make A+ tier content Rishi you earned a sub
My friend in Colorado told me to say that he appreciates this video sooo much!
The tier grid shoukd be stabdardized, it's genius. This video was so much more than I expected, I enjoyed it very much and made me rethink things about my personal playstyle
This is a beautifully made video
I main Fox, and like to utilize his movement and threat zones to force my way to center stage, and once I have positional advantage, I like to approach with a mixture of full hops, running grab/waveshine into grab, and short hop nairs/drill. I also love my up-air>up-air>up-air chains. Oh, and I enjoy calling out my opponents movement and/or approaches with running up smashes or pivot up-tilt, but not too consistent with the latter.
I’m a wolf main in brawl and as much as I’ve been able to play it, in ultimate too. I absolutely 100% agree with his spot on your chart. Extremely strong implementation with a somewhat simple concept. Thank you king.
Lmao, I was kind of doubting whether you could recognise players just by their playstyle and only realised there wasn’t a playercam of Mang0 when it came up. You win this round, Rishi
The Ultimate tier list comparison felt so right. It feels so awkward looking at the characters in a normal tier list because there's so many and there's so many divided opinions. That graph you put up could work nicely
This was really great
That chart you made for Ultimate is super accurate
dude holy shit, you make melee sound even cooler than it already is. thiws game is so dope
This was some high quality stuff
Great video Rishi
that brother combat made my heart happy
I would love to see a similar breakdown on Axe.
I'm loving the smash videos! Keep up the good work bro. #DKGANG