More killer input and advice from the vise of Mr. Galloup.

I liked it! I started to tie smaller flies (midges, bwo's) with the GSP a couple of years ago. No more broken thread.

Great explanation. Good resource of information I can really use. watching the greats tie flies , they don't always list items they use. The G2 or the Roman stuff is what they must be using for splitting and for fine , non-build up work. going to order and get going now. Thanks.

Love all your videos! I learn so much from these videos.

Kelly 15 below zero are you serious 15 degree below zero and I thought that I was nuts. Thank you sir for explaining all about thread's you are the best .

I used to know this much better, but the floss width, the 600 Denier was the 1X thread. The 300 Denier was the 3X, and the 140 Denier, may have ended up becoming the 6X thread (as per the old Danville standards that Mr Galloup mentioned). With the addition of the 70 Denier nylon threads then, of course one gets a sort of 8X thread maybe, and with the Gel spun, the Roman Moser and other stuff in more recent times, getting down to 50 Denier threads, we have the 10x thread spools starting to come into our kit of parts.

Like the no nonsense videos! Question: I watched your video on fluorocarbon vs mono, but my question for you is tippet size for application. Fly size, water clarity, etc... I’ve been into some big fish this year, and trying to balance light enough to get bites, and strong enough for double digit trout/steelhead. Thanks

50, 100 and 200 probably refers to Denier, diameter of a thread. Most flosses, come in diameters like 600 Denier. One can get things like the Kevlar floss mentioned, down around 300 Denier. The 200 Denier, is actually a little bit like a thread - but a thread where you want to build up some bulk, while not having to burn through half a spool of thinner thread to get up the bulk, build up profiles to the body and so on. The classic thread diameters most in world of fly tying will be familiar with are the 140 and 70, where 70 Denier is just too thin, and weak for a lot of fishers who don't need to go down into the size 18's and smaller. The 10X, the Austrian Gel spun mentioned from Roman Moser, is probably down beneath the 70 Denier diameter, and that's most likely where the fifty, in the 50, 100 and 200 comes in. You can see, that in Gel spun, there'r working for whatever reason to a 50 and 100 Denier as standard threads, and probably can do so because of inherent strength of product. Mr Galloup is right, its a different way to tie flies for sure. 70 and 140 in the nylon world made sense, because for two different types of fishermen - dry fishers, and wet fishers - given normal hook sizes etc, those were smallest diameters that still had enough strength to be usable. But lots of wet fishers trying to work with 70 Denier on sizes 10 and 8 hooks, would be major annoyed, given amount of breaks to thread experienced. But for 12, 14, 16 etc the 70 Denier was unavoidable.

Great video overall. However, I am pretty sure the size designation of the GSP thread is designated in denier, rather than number of strands. The denier sizing refers to the weight in grams of 9000 meters of thread.

I don't know for absolute sure, but the Denier scale probably had to do with world of clothing, the rag trade and old cotton threads and garment making. When Danville arrived with nylon spools, they probably started to jump over to the 3X and 6X scales, to describe things. I'll stand corrected on this, but when I procured some 200 Denier floss lately, I think that Danvilles might be one of few producing a lot in that diameter. It probably equates to a 4X or something like that. It's neither a thread or a floss, but it's really handy I think, for laying down some bucktail and such on a salmon iron, where you don't want the material to 'flare' up, but you don't want the material to bulk up either. Generally speaking, where you don't want your bulky hair to flare up, thinner threads are not way to go. So that 200 Denier stuff, a 4X or 5X thread/floss is handy to begin fly with and lay down some hair wing material. That's on salmon patterns, where 'stream lined' is desirable for downstream swings, wet fly style.

I should say recommend.

What do you think about the new Veevus threads from Denmark? I find the 14/0 to be stronger than Uni 8/0. I have mostly uni threads, closely followed by danvilles flat waxed nylon. I bought this veevus and I love it. I just recently tried the g.s.p. and am excited by that thread for heavy applications. Haven't tried it on dry flies. I do love it for spinning hair and heavier applications for larger flies. I will give the 30 a shot on my dry flies. All the best, Sean

@trevanchapman7617

6 жыл бұрын

Sean Mooney do you still like the veenus thread? I'm looking at getting quit a bit of it but I'm not seeing many comments about them as a company or quality of the thread

@matthewhutchinson9719

5 жыл бұрын

I am also curious about the Beavis thread. All the cool kids are using it.

I've tried Nano Semperfu 30 D 18/0 but they forget to tell you is that it doesn't cut with standard sissors what about that gel spun ?

@TheSlideinn

8 жыл бұрын

+dudekiwi Same thing man, have to hold it tight and run your scissors into it. If you try to cut GSP it just frays

Where do you get the thread tubes (clear with the red end caps) seen on your videos?

@TheSlideinn

6 жыл бұрын

Ernest, we sell them here. Thanks for watching. KG

With 'rope dubbing' you can use any type of thread, from flat, round, waxed or not, wire or bite tippet, or monofilament. No loop, wax, tools, and done in 20 to 30 seconds for average bullet-proof realistic flies. Try it and let me know what you think.

I've heard you mention, you typically use burgundy for nymphs, do you primarily use other colors as triggers for dry's and Streamers? Very much enjoy your videos

@TheSlideinn

5 жыл бұрын

Dale, The burgundy thread thing started forty years ago when I used it on a nymph that worked well so I added it to others and then it kind of just became a trade mark I made for myself and I liked the way they looked . Dont really do with any of the other ones. Thanks for watching, Kelly

Regarding GSP, a lot of tyers have told me that it can slip and not very grippy? True?

@TheSlideinn

7 жыл бұрын

Dave/ it is way slippery and has no stretch so it make it hard to set with out half hitching when you first start tying with it. Especially when you first start with it I would suggest hitting the hook with some glue. You give up stretch and anchoring ability for strength. KG

So what size GSP do you prefer for dry flies and wooly buggers. Targeting mainly trout

@kellygalloup6073

4 жыл бұрын

Cali, I use 10 and 12/0 on my dries and 50 or 5/0 on my smaller bugger style. Thanks for watching, KG

@cali_misfit1387

4 жыл бұрын

I’m always hearing conflicting opinions. Like nylon 8/0 for nymphs and 6/0 for dries. Maybe I’ll invest in some gsp. I haven’t tied since I was in Missoula at the Grizzly Hackle shop but I’m in California now and picked up some nice equipment and material so id like to tie some flies

I like a GSP or Nano thread when doing all my small flies to prevent buildup. The break resistance isn’t required for small flies unless you are “heavy handed “ or you are using old rotten thread. Where I like a stronger thread is tying deer or elk hair on larger flies. I have to ask, did he clean out the store’s entire stock of bobbins or is it for customer show? 🥴 It’s a good thing he doesn’t use a NorVise bobbin. Have you seen the prices for those babies?🙀👍🇨🇦👨‍🦳

What thread count of GSP would you recommend for spinning deer hair for muddler minnows in size 8 to 4?

@TheSlideinn

6 жыл бұрын

Chris, 75 or 100 will be fine. I would say the 100 if you are doing more 4 and 6, 75 if you are doing more 8 and 6. either way it is such a low build up thread it wont matter much one or the other. KG

@ChrisThompsonOregonStateU

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

can you use like sewing thread if you wanted to

@thereelmaxstall3954

7 жыл бұрын

you can but ive found that it breaks super easy and doesn't hold up as well!

@owenkern2386

7 жыл бұрын

thanks for the help I have recently gotten into fly tieing and order a huge assortment of different sewing string and colors it seems to be working alright have had a few brakes but overall pretty well +Fishing_NWI

@thereelmaxstall3954

7 жыл бұрын

yeah its good up until you want to make bigger flies. you cant put as much strain on it but its definitely a good starting point! ive also started fly tying recently and im thinking about making some videos about it!

Kelly?? sound girl name?