Ask Charlie #3 - Turkey and Goose Fly Tying Biots Explained

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In this installment of "Ask Charlie", Charlie Craven does a deep dive into turkey and goose fly tying biots. If you want to ask Charlie a question, email him at ASKCHARLIE@charliesflybox.com
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  • @jthrash75
    @jthrash756 ай бұрын

    Good lord. I dont tie a lot with biots, but i never realized there were so many idiosyncrasies with them. Great video. Definitely learned a lot on this one.

  • @user-mb1hg4qu9f
    @user-mb1hg4qu9fАй бұрын

    This is why I usually stick with dubbing! Thanks, Charlie! 😅

  • @mikehulsey4813
    @mikehulsey48135 ай бұрын

    By far the most informative tutorial on tying with biots on KZread, thanks Charlie! Would expect nothing less than perfection here!!!!!

  • @stevenlevy5224
    @stevenlevy52246 ай бұрын

    Just one of many, many reasons why I think Charlie may be the GOAT today.

  • @phillmartin6196
    @phillmartin61966 ай бұрын

    Charlie thank you for explaining the biots . It's worth getting up at 02 : 30 am to watch and then try to follow you its Friday about 17 degrees t shirt weather. Charlie thank's again keep well

  • @joshlokan1618
    @joshlokan16186 ай бұрын

    Pure "GOLD"!! These videos are the best!

  • @ORheff
    @ORheff6 ай бұрын

    Thanks Charlie. The Ask Charlie series is awesome. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge, these are some real master classes on material differences.

  • @gilbertritter2613
    @gilbertritter26136 ай бұрын

    Thank you Charlie for the explanation of the biots It’s very educating and it give me pleasure to work with it. Thank you.

  • @JP24Mich
    @JP24Mich5 ай бұрын

    This is a fantastic, informative video on biots! More than I ever realized. Thanks Charlie

  • @locomtn16a2
    @locomtn16a26 ай бұрын

    100% of this information was educational! Thanks Charlie!

  • @mdaley3102
    @mdaley31026 ай бұрын

    I never knew this so I’m glad I watched this video. Thank you

  • @paulbryan1094
    @paulbryan10946 ай бұрын

    Thanks Charlie. I hadn’t realised about the natural curve and its effect. Really helpful, ta muchly.

  • @steveduddy5529
    @steveduddy55296 ай бұрын

    OMG I have been tying for years and never knew all this about biots! Thank you Charlie for sharing your knowledge, it’s amazing. I’m going to watch this several times to capture all the information provided.

  • @hirkojs
    @hirkojs6 ай бұрын

    Being very analytical by nature, this video really hits home and greatly enhances my understanding as I try to learn this Amazing art of fly tying. Mega Thx !

  • @Utahlonghorn
    @Utahlonghorn6 ай бұрын

    This was a great instructional video! Been trying for a long time, but never thought about the curvature of the Biot.

  • @freddefelice1419
    @freddefelice14196 ай бұрын

    This is an excellent demonstration that's packed with amazing talent. The profiles you developed manipulating biot's look very buggy. Very nice ideas.

  • @MrBluegrouse
    @MrBluegrouse6 ай бұрын

    So good, Charlie. Thank you!

  • @jimcannon4653
    @jimcannon46536 ай бұрын

    Really helpful Charlie - I never thought to look to see which wing the biot came from. Solves a huge mystery for me! 🤓

  • @emilleum48
    @emilleum486 ай бұрын

    Charlie, I have followed many of your incredible ties, and your tying skill is incredible, and there is so much more that I need you to teach me. This extra time in going into more detail about boots, descriptions, selection, and easier tying methods for both tails a bodies will help me so much, thank you MSG Leum

  • @rodchurchill5576
    @rodchurchill55766 ай бұрын

    I'm just beginning to tie trout flies . Even after watching quite a few videos , never really knew what a biot was . YOU KILLED IT ! This was without a doubt the best , most informative video I've ever watched . Thank You ! Love your book too , just wish I had the coordination to tie with my left hand makes so much sense ..

  • @freddefelice1419
    @freddefelice14196 ай бұрын

    This is what I appreciate the most with being involved with this great hobby that so many have turned it into an art form. The talent is endless, but the best part is all the greatest share with everyone of us. This man and Barry Ord Clark, Mark Petitjean, James Lund. Charlie and many more. There is so much to learn and everyone is offering help.

  • @kennygann903
    @kennygann9036 ай бұрын

    Thanks Charlie,well explained

  • @user-hh9ib2dz8w
    @user-hh9ib2dz8w6 ай бұрын

    Great video very informative and well explained maybe a video on snowshoe the process from foot to fly what to look for what to avoid pros and cons and applications thank you for another great video

  • @tj-fk4vw
    @tj-fk4vw6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I have struggled for years tying Biot bodied flies and never realized that the right and left wing biots wrap differently. I tied a couple using the correct wing Biot and which dramatically improved the body.

  • @jimholland1592
    @jimholland15926 ай бұрын

    Really enjoy your content 👍 You are truly an artist 😉

  • @henryramsay3842
    @henryramsay38426 ай бұрын

    Nice work my friend

  • @justinmcquaide4862
    @justinmcquaide48626 ай бұрын

    I’m a mediocre tier at best but for some reason I have no problem with biots . I can’t tie an Adam’s yet or do deer hair or most other patterns lol but I’m getting there . Also Charlie is hands down the precise fly tyer on the planet there’s nobody better .

  • @donaloflynn3922
    @donaloflynn39226 ай бұрын

    Thanks Charlie. Now I know why my ‘biot tying’ was so inconsistent!

  • @termite122
    @termite1226 ай бұрын

    stripped peacock quills with all the different colors available today is the way to go for me..i havnt used turkey or goose biots for a smooth bodied fly in years..great video and explanation..

  • @Fernando_Woolybooger
    @Fernando_Woolybooger6 ай бұрын

    Excellent. Thank you!

  • @harrythomas1714
    @harrythomas17146 ай бұрын

    Excellent tutorial. Learned so much. Regarding the other side of the turkey feather, opposite of the biot, what can that side be used for in fly tying?? Thanks again.

  • @sigurdurmarolafsson4183
    @sigurdurmarolafsson41835 ай бұрын

    Great video!!! A mate of mine told me that if you put just a little drop of food oil into the bag with the biots they soften up and become a lot easier to work with. AND IT IS TRUE!!

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy6 ай бұрын

    Right handed feather you turn it around the hook in a clockwise manner looking into the eye of the hook, a left handed feather you turn it around the hook in a counter clockwise manner to make for a smoother looking fly.

  • @sputnick66
    @sputnick666 ай бұрын

    That was great, thanks so much.

  • @forrestnorman9359
    @forrestnorman93595 ай бұрын

    Excellent detailed descriptions - thank you! (I always thought you were a left-handed tier, so reversed things I saw on your videos). Great discussion of left wing versus right wing biots!

  • @davehall2160
    @davehall21606 ай бұрын

    Thanks, that helps a lot

  • @brianfeeney9493
    @brianfeeney94936 ай бұрын

    Morning from NW Michigan Charlie 🎉 Healthy 2024 🤙🏻☀️🎣💫

  • @jghanna24
    @jghanna246 ай бұрын

    Fantastic!

  • @terpichore7667
    @terpichore76676 ай бұрын

    It seems like "biot" is jargon fly tyers use because it doesn't seem to be commonly used by ornithologists. I hate to be critical because Charlie makes the best fly tying videos, but maybe he needs to re-shoot this one because it seems to add to the already confusing subject of smooth versus ribbed quill bodies. Tying left-handed he says: 10:00 With a left wing feather, tying with the “the stand up edge on the bottom … when I wrap, the stand up edge is on the back side” (a ribbed body is produced) 11:15 “If I take a biot from the right wing, …, if I wrap it with its natural curve, it’s going to come out smooth” 16:15 “tying a smooth body, I like a left quill… and that will tie in notch down.. and the stand up edge on top”

  • @LisaLouDouros
    @LisaLouDouros6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for pointing out how sharp they can be. Sorry about your thumb, that’s a pretty good scar.

  • @andrevanaardt4846
    @andrevanaardt48466 ай бұрын

    Wow, that was a great lesson. Who knew....certainly not me

  • @geraldshin3496
    @geraldshin34966 ай бұрын

    Hey Charlie, When hackling very small flies, Does the size of the feathers matter much. For example: If I am tying a collar hackle on a size 22 hook or a size 24 hook, can I use the same size 22 feather on the 24? My hackle gauge shows such a small difference between a size 22 and 24. It has become more difficult to find feathers in size 24.

  • @jeffporter4894
    @jeffporter48946 ай бұрын

    So, is what you are saying that as a right handed tier and I want the leading edge standing up for segmentation, I should try and choose right sided wings?

  • @Tpetaja1
    @Tpetaja16 ай бұрын

    What about using the rest of the feather instead of the buyouts for bodies?

  • @DeanRapp
    @DeanRapp2 ай бұрын

    I love the detail. I notice when you start the biot wrap it is done by pulling the biot away from you. In a number of other videos I see the biot pulled towards the tier. After sitting at the vice for some time, as you suggested, I noticed this is a subtle but significant difference. It seems to change how the biot is wrapped relative to its natural curve. I noticed that when pulling the biot away from me it tucks the fold under the wrap of the biot for a cleaner look. I would love your thoughts on this subtle difference in style(s). Also. at the 15:45 mark of the video when talking about smooth bodies you reference you as a left handed tier would want a right wing quill. Then at the 16:17 mark you mention preferring a left quill. Am I missing something? It seems from my practice session a left handed tier would want a right wing quill if they want to wrap a smooth body with its natural curve. Is that correct or should I go back and practice tying biot quill's some more?

  • @Fernando_Woolybooger
    @Fernando_Woolybooger6 ай бұрын

    Does soaking turkey biots help? I had someone tell me you have to soak them or they will break.

  • @CharliesFlyBox

    @CharliesFlyBox

    6 ай бұрын

    It doesn’t hurt but in my experience, turkey biots are generally soft enough to wrap dry.

  • @anablakp3200
    @anablakp32006 ай бұрын

    Tell us about the very "first" wrap Charlie as it's difficult to see. Are you folding the biot over as you wrap?

  • @CharliesFlyBox

    @CharliesFlyBox

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @axelschug3451
    @axelschug34516 ай бұрын

    Question, will stripped biot packages have both left and right wing strips?

  • @CharliesFlyBox

    @CharliesFlyBox

    6 ай бұрын

    They usually do, but not necessarily.

  • @I_Tie_Flies
    @I_Tie_Flies6 ай бұрын

    So, as a right handed tier I want to seek out right winged feathers?

  • @dankochanek8056
    @dankochanek80566 ай бұрын

    The Problem Child is the bug of choice!!

  • @kylemoppert3105
    @kylemoppert31056 ай бұрын

    "18 to 22% less fish" - Ha!

  • @jamesvatter5729
    @jamesvatter57296 ай бұрын

    Why are turkey biots sold as the whole feather, but goose biots are just the leading edge? Guess I should have watched the whole video before asking ! LOL

  • @CharliesFlyBox

    @CharliesFlyBox

    6 ай бұрын

    I think it's because goose biots are often sold as craft items and have thus been prepped that way where turkey biots are more specific to fly tying and arrow making, where less work is out into them. Just my guess....

  • @cachi-7878
    @cachi-78786 ай бұрын

    I sent you questions, Charlie but you ignored me😂.

  • @CharliesFlyBox

    @CharliesFlyBox

    6 ай бұрын

    Which questions? I have a whole file full of them now so we’re covering them as fast as we can

  • @user-lo6ji2ye8t
    @user-lo6ji2ye8t6 ай бұрын

    Been fighting those things for years. Your explanation made it very simple to understand and now it’s so much easier. Thank you Charlie!!

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