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@lawyermahaprasad

Жыл бұрын

hey cap ... did you complete FUBAR?

@StabbinJoeScarborough

Жыл бұрын

Still no TOW GOAT gun ?

@robertwasowski7626

Жыл бұрын

Or if your entire family are military fanatics

@kauphaart0

Жыл бұрын

CCP slurper

@LetsGo-wl5zo

Жыл бұрын

Most of the UN troops are not well armed/underequipped.. Except USA & UK, a.o.

This sounds like so many other UN peace keeping missions, they are told to leave heavy weapons at home and then get butt kicked everytime. When the Canadians first went to Bosnia, the Canadian General refused to leave their larger weapons behind, so had TOW, Carl G, HMG and mortars to provide fire support. It made a difference in how the belligerents treated the Canadians. Almost every UN mission is set up to fail, because a lot of the actors want it to.

@dannylo5875

Жыл бұрын

They just want to battle test troops

@shakrosemusiq9301

Жыл бұрын

​@@indiasuperclean6969 👀

@abcdedfg8340

Жыл бұрын

​@@indiasuperclean6969 Get off this channel please. There are political channels for you to spam.

@azexnewmai3607

Жыл бұрын

​@@indiasuperclean6969 this channel is actually a Pakistani propaganda channel.. pretending to be Indian to make Indians a laughing stock

@helbent4

Жыл бұрын

Bear in mind there is a risk spectrum for peacekeeping missions. If the situation is stalemated or the parties are negotiating, light infantry with no heavy weapons is fine. As well, UN forces are supposed to downplay their military aspect. But in a volatile situation, sufficient firepower could be the difference between success and failure either providing real deterrence or actual effective armed response. Peacekeepers were originally supposed to deter attack by acting as a "tripwire" where their coming under attack would trigger a larger response. However, this model has come under scrutiny as sometimes it works, but often it does not. Particularly if the attacker gambles or knows that the response will be slow or there will be little or no political will for a larger intervention. Therefore perhaps they could have it both ways, with smaller and lightly-armed forces deployed, but with the capacity to quickly reintegrate various weapons systems and combat vehicles to these units. In addition to the lightly-armed tripwire or security forces, heavy mechanised or armoured units kept in reserve to respond to an increase in violence or a deteriorating situation.

For me, the incident really says more about the UN than the PLA

@grantmitton6346

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@ramongossler1726

Жыл бұрын

This is mostly to blame on the UN, no doubt but if you look at the Chinese patrols....Parade uniforms, presenting their guns on the roof of their vehicles, wearing a facemask, wearing white Parade gloves. These guys are a joke too.

@imgvillasrc1608

Жыл бұрын

Should be common knowledge already though back when the UN failed in the Congo during the 60s

@deslow7411

Жыл бұрын

Well said. I have never understood why is the UN so lightly equipped. Completely useless organisation.

@brentonherbert7775

4 ай бұрын

Like how you shouldnt let the chinese in because their gear is made in china and they dont listen to important orders from commanders that arent chinese? Yeah says loooooots about any group that lets china "help"

I really appreciated the ending where you honored the soldiers who lost their lives. I’m not Chinese but it is wonderful that you mentioned their names besides having different ideological differences. Keep up the good work

If they did fail, their still brave for protecting a whole city and saving 9,000 citizens while being heavily pinned down with no reinforcements as their first combat experience. that's actually really impressive

@jonathanwilliams1065

Ай бұрын

They shouldn’t be protecting the whole city when as the capital it is absolutely a legitimate target, and is in fact the goal for the enemy to capture, and by preventing its capture the UN is taking sides

@Steve.._.

Ай бұрын

​@@jonathanwilliams1065weird take

Something very similar happened to the Dutch and Australian troops on peacekeeping missions. These troops are typically under-equipped, undergunned, and under a regime of particularly vague rules and priorities which are unrealistic in real combat. Troops are also supposed to know who's giving them orders. UN should have properly equipped combat troops with the capacity to deal with actual warfare.

@Arandomguyontheinterwebs

Жыл бұрын

true

@Rusty_Gold85

Жыл бұрын

The Australians have been in every conflict since the Boer wars . Only in the Early Stages of the WW2 pacific have they been beaten . Most times under attack in poor 3-1 or 5-1 ratios they have taken on all the aggressors and came out unbeaten. Would like to hear what UN contingent and the event

@royeick2991

Жыл бұрын

Dissolve the UN

@paulwallis7586

Жыл бұрын

@@Rusty_Gold85 Rwanda. They weren't allowed to shoot in an attack by Hutus.

@kenfowler1980

Жыл бұрын

Well said Paul Rwanda was the most well known, Somalia was another. And if Australia was not leading the intervention in East Timor and if East Timor wasn’t within striking distance of RAAF aircraft (& if Indonesia failed to acknowledge that fact) then that would have been the same! As was explained by senior Australian military officer “ we are war fighters not police!”

I think it’s mostly a combination of a number of issues. The Chinese soldiers weren’t well trained enough nor was their command chain intact. But at the same time it’s hard to expect any regular infantry to try to go toe to toe with tanks and artillery when they have no anti armor capabilities and were massively outgunned.

@PartTimeGoblinSlayer

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, they haven't had as much experience as some nations and they live under an authoritarian regime which doesn't exactly inspire loyalty and national pride.

@fahad_hassan_92

Жыл бұрын

Not being racist but Chinese people are generally unruly. My father works as a civil engineer and I often hear him talking about office politics. I have never heard him curse someone as much as he curses the Chinese contractors, they ignore all recommendations and do they their own thing, which is what looks like happened here. Whereas all the American companies he has worked with, the people are very professional and have good work ethics. Another guy I know has had similar experiences working with Chinese, and he lives in China. I am usually very pro-Chinese but this is a harsh truth and maybe the CPC is working on it. The Chinese nation is also developing and still learning, lets hope they learn.

@u2beuser714

Жыл бұрын

​@@PartTimeGoblinSlayer Authoritarianism has nothing to dp with this. Prussian empire was authoritarian yet it had very good military

@ordnance7222

Жыл бұрын

@@fahad_hassan_92 "Not to be racist" then proceeds to talk shit about a race.

@jboydayz

Жыл бұрын

@@fahad_hassan_92 The chinese government on the main land are the rebels anyway, they just have taken over the mainland, and the chinese government was moved to tiawan. So don’t expect them to be the most ruly.

I was there at Juba airport living within the Camp. The Japanese and the Chinese fought well. The Ethiopians stayed in their camp.

Thank you for sharing!

Class act, recognizing the Chinese soldiers' sacrifice. Not a fan of China's government, but a soldier on peace keeping duty is in a tough situation.

@leethal59

Жыл бұрын

Who is a fan of any countries' government, let's be honest?

@saxreaper

Жыл бұрын

@@leethal59 heck, i dont even know if Im a fan of my own country's government

@Nugire

Жыл бұрын

I heard Antarctica has a chill goverment.

@Scroolewse

Жыл бұрын

he could have at least used Google to learn how to pronounce their names tho

@Scroolewse

Жыл бұрын

@@indiasuperclean6969 is this satire lmao? none of those are true, poo.

I agree. A soldier who fights bravely, in defense of others deserves recognition. Thank you.

@wesleybarton3871

Жыл бұрын

Free The Oppressed.

@ShutUpBubi

10 ай бұрын

Our countries greatest enemy deserves zero recognition.

@jimbrogan9835

10 ай бұрын

@@ShutUpBubi First: We are not at war with China. China is an AVERSARY of the United States, meaning our interests do not align and we COMPETE with eachother. We may some day be enemies, but that won't change the fact that honorable men and women deserve respect. Second: These men fought and died protecting civilians in a foreign country. That is honorable and deserves recognition. Third: Soldiers are not their government. They are men and women doing their duty to country, ideals, and beliefs. No different from an American soldier. All men of honor understand that. Courage and honor respect courage and honor. Only cowards and dishonorable people spit on the graves of brave men, even if they were enemies.

@SuperRobertoClemente

9 ай бұрын

If an implication here is that China would somehow "get smoked" in trying to take over Taiwan, I think that is a veeeeeeery dangerous assumption.

@JordanJumpin

Ай бұрын

@@wesleybarton3871yes free the oppressed countries from western imperialism

I think the Chinese troops did the best they could in their inferior situation and bravely stood up to superior forces to protect civilians. China certainly cannot be blamed for the situation; it is the people who sit at the top of the UN and calculate troop allocations who are to blame.

@brentonherbert7775

4 ай бұрын

Ahem.... 1: the UN does not hard line dictate what their troops can and cant bring. Canadians brought heavier gear just fine. 2: the chinese did not protect civilians. they protected themselves. Thats why 300 civilians died vs 2 chinese. 3: They were repeatedly given orders and told to co ordniate with other UN forces in that area, mainly the napalese and indians... china didnt listen to orders from anyone except chinese..... Yeah maybe... watch the video first?

@caocao4266

4 ай бұрын

​@@brentonherbert7775Don't you listen the positive side of the story? They succesfully protected 9000 civilians and launched counter attacks to save the civilians.

@china_airguns

3 ай бұрын

@@brentonherbert7775 They may not give a hard dictation, you may be right, but they say how much there should be and also specify what material is appropriate. A country like China, which does not have great combat experience itself, naturally relies on what is proposed; China is missing or was missing the experience that Canada already had so let`s stay fair here.

@brentonherbert7775

3 ай бұрын

@@china_airguns HAHAHAHAHAHA DUDE DID YOU JUST SAY CHINA LISTENS TO WHAT OTHER NATIONS HAVE TO SAY??? XDDD Oh lawd.... Yeah china will TOTAAALLLLY "listen" when the US says it should bring this thisand this mhm mhm.

@Angel_Drug

2 ай бұрын

@@brentonherbert7775dude chill out

You provide very nice education in a good way. I hope you keep it up.

A very similar situation happened to Indian UN troops. Thousands of Indian troops were trapped in Sierra Leone because of the inability of UN to give proper information or allow heavy weapons in the hands of peacekeepers. Eventually the Indian government was so angered that they directly intervened in the conflict with British troops. Then only they were able to save the lives of civilians and UN PEACEKEEPERS. This showed how incompetent the UN officials were and that peacekeeping missions could be successful if under the right leadership

@Ziegfried82

Жыл бұрын

The UN is borderline useless. The Chinese are better off using their own system for that regions security.

@cutcut1980

Жыл бұрын

I’ve got a lot a lot of stories to tell about the UN. Here are just two: I am a former soldier with the U.S. Army in Iraq. We had some business at the UN compound in 2003. The security there was a joke. Their security were barely checking vehicles. There was a section of fence missing with no security. Iraqis were coming and going through the fence. I told my soldiers this place was going to get blown up. Sure enough, a truck bomb blew up the building two weeks later, killing the chief of the UN mission. About a year later, I became a contractor in Iraq and managed several buildings within the Green Zone. The UN came back to Iraq and stayed at the Al Rasheed Hotel. I would see the UN delegation in the cafeteria. It looked like they took one hippie from every country in the world and had them work together. It was a joke. There is no way those hippies could accomplish anything. One day my Iraqi cleaners were furious. This African UN official kept pooping 💩 in his hotel closet. He wouldn’t use the bathroom because he did not like European style toilets.

@VoldraLightningfrost

Жыл бұрын

@@cutcut1980 B r u h

@t.s.p1864

Жыл бұрын

So true the same happened long long back in lebanon as well. IPKF had to surrender arms to local militia

@neildavid10

Жыл бұрын

Even recently in Congo Indian troops were pinned down and shot at by militia groups and armed civilians. It’s absolutely irresponsible what the UN does to these troops

Thank you for honoring those men who died during this mission. We may hate the leaders and their politics but the men who don uniforms deserve some respect.

@haparcheledupwar

Жыл бұрын

Nahhhh😂😂

@nicholasbrown668

Жыл бұрын

​@@haparcheledupwarthey are just human man, they put their lives on the line to protect people from an entirely different continent

@rifqimujahid4907

Жыл бұрын

@@mcnugget3851 yea, moment of silence for brave ISIS soldiers guys, may peace be upon them

@gary7867

Жыл бұрын

@@rifqimujahid4907 also dont forget the SS soldiers in 1945 germany

@esphilee

Жыл бұрын

Most soldiers are Hero. They risk their life for others. Some are there for the money, but most are good people that deserve respect no matter where they are from.

The UN has been a disaster for many decades. I had some very interesting conversations with an Australian soldier who volunteered for a UN "peacekeeping" tour of Rwanda. He was as horrified by the bizarre "international politics and even weirder "rules of engagement", as he was using a pace-counter to tally corpses at a massacre site. That one was the famous, but systematically ignored massacre at he Kibeho refugee camp. THOUSANDS died that day and the UN troops could only stand ad watch. Not long after that fiasco, he was in an un-armoured Land-Rover patrolling city streets. They encountered one man cheerfully hacking at another with a large bush-knife / machete.. The detachment commander reminded all on board that they could ONLY use their weapons if DIRECTLY attacked, To say this young soldier was "disillusioned" would be a gross understatement.

@kevinbaumhoer7359

Ай бұрын

WTF BS is this . There duty is Peacekeeping yet they can"t do nothing because of Politics . Then Why dies them Even Exites these People are Sanctioned by the Near entry World good i had Politics

I know how much time goes into a TV 'segment'.... Feature..."special report"?! I can't imagine you don't have a huge staff, get my intuition tells me you don't and you somehow miraculously put out tons of top-quality TV. Thank you... For combining entertainment and education!

From a former US infantryman, respect to them trying with what little they had. Outnumbered, outgunned, and I assume they had very little experience compared to the local militias. And ROE literally prevents them from really doing anything until they are already being ambushed pretty much.

@failtolawl

10 ай бұрын

It didn't stop the plenty of other times that underequipped UN forces stopped tanks and incursions

@drmartin5062

10 ай бұрын

⁠Thing is everyone learns quick on the job. They got enough people and homogenous community to fall back on and defend/promote. We’re letting in 41 year old sailors/too many women, and don’t get me started on the dysphoria that somehow doesn’t disqualify them as mentally unfit. They are a tough enemy. When it kicks off it will be the American fleets against an enemy operating close to their home. We are so not ready for a fight. P.S. of course the marines will be the ones taking and holding territory. This will be the one where it becomes obvious we definitely prepared for the last war.

@kovona

9 ай бұрын

@@failtolawl UN forces in Korea were hardly under-equipped. This is more in line with the challenges faced by UNAMIR in Rwanda or UNPROFOR in Sarajevo.

@akhilblackcobra

9 ай бұрын

it didnt stop Indian and Ethopean contingents stationed in Juba from reacting and protecting the perimeter that day. Being outgunned did not stop Indian Contingen from protecting civilians at Bor in similar incident a year preceding Juba indicent. ROE is pretty clear in such matters, but then what the average chink lacked that day was the nerves to come out of protected areas and take post.

@chrisburke624

9 ай бұрын

@@drmartin5062 As an outsider looking in (fellow NATO service here) it SEEMS from various media releases & press that the US is gearing up for this fight in particular... Yet I've read from a few US service members they feel like this isn't the case Is it that the military is prepping for the last fight, and not properly equipping for the next big fight? Is it that the military has gifted too many missiles, ammo, etc to Ukraine and would find itself short if a big fight kicks off against China suddenly? Is it a lack of ability for the Navy to sustain itself in a fight where there is a peer enemy, who has all the advantages of a home turf fight? What would you do differently if you were in charge, that you think would put US forces in a better place to respond effectively?

Respect to those 2 lads who lost their lives. RIP.

@yelowpunk

Жыл бұрын

and to Cappy for keeping it human

Great video … informative … thanks for sharing … 🙏

Very honorable and noble of you to recognize the 2 fallen Chinese soldiers. Thank you!

The Chinese UN troops had no anti-tank weapons and the heaviest vehicle they had was a machine-gun mounted APC that could barely protect against 50cal. The militia that attacked them had RPGs, recoilless guns, T-54/55s and outnumbered them probably 10 to 1. It’s highly doubtful any military can even survive that without the proper equipment.

@houseofpain3580

Жыл бұрын

China way#1 CHINA🇨🇳WAY#1

@bryanthardin8481

Жыл бұрын

Can you really call a group that armed and militia? I think I would go ahead and call those rebel forces instead

@MbisonBalrog

Жыл бұрын

How the hell they even get T54/55 tanks?

@gheelman

Жыл бұрын

@@MbisonBalrog T-55s are a dime a dozen, the AK-47 of tanks

@Fulcrox

Жыл бұрын

@@MbisonBalrog T-55 are old af, there are massive surplus of them around the world, African countries have hundreds of them

I think the PLA soldiers did as well as they could given the circumstances. If they had their ZTZ99s or ZTZ96s, actual ATGMs and IFVs they likely would’ve been able to counter the attack. But they only had light infantry with no anti armour or artillery. Given the circumstances, the fact that only 2 died is a miracle.

@Tyler-vw9bh

Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest factor with any UN force is you cannot expect people to fight and die for someone else's war or people. Those soldiers knew that so long as they made it home, their life would be normal; they had no skin in the game.

@Kevin-np3sx

Жыл бұрын

If any UN force had proper support with the OK to return fire with deadly force. I mean if a legit battle grpup was placed in between them knowing full well they would be obliterated they would think long and hard before they engage a UN peacekeeping force. I mean what is the point of putting of putting them there with weapons if they can bareley use them.

@advancetotabletop5328

Жыл бұрын

@Tyler: Yeah, that. Those “defending” their own territory are often more motivated than their attackers. I mean, how many times have we seen that? We‘re seeing that right now in Ukraine, right? I think any country obligated to send UN forces and with the light equipment they had would have had the same result.

@Aabergm

Жыл бұрын

Sad truth is for peacekeeping to work properly you need overwhelming firepower and the UN refuses to do that. It needs to be a zero sum game. If you want to stop side A and B from fighting they both have to think you can beat the ever living crap out of both of them if they try.

@cattysplat

Жыл бұрын

@@Aabergm This is why air support is so important. Drop a few bombs/missles on the precious tanks would have most armies thinking twice about carrying out an attack.

Always enjoy your channel.

Thanks Informed.

Those soldiers did what they could with what they had. They were smart to retreat and then push where possible. The orders they ignored were given out by idiots. Rest in peace to those brave enough to defend innocent lives.

@Tap02

Жыл бұрын

I hate to admit this, because China is the enemy, but you’re right. UN officers are morons and are mostly sexual deviants because of diplomatic immunity.

@wonkothesane7000

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Never known a situation yet where UN Peace Keepers have had fight with these odds. The worst performance of UN Peacekeepers was in the Balkens, when Dutch solders abandoned an area without a shot, allowing the population to be slaughtered. Quote "In 2019, the Dutch Supreme Court ruled the Netherlands was partially liable in the deaths of about 350 Muslim men murdered by Bosnian Serb forces during the massacre." This happened 1995.

@captaincritter1898

Жыл бұрын

@@indiasuperclean6969 I'm not sure if you're even real, or just a bot

@alexanderchenf1

Жыл бұрын

@@captaincritter1898 a Chinese bot

@paraphiliac

Жыл бұрын

Yup, the title makes it sound bad on the chinese behalf. 'China's Troops Get Smoked in First Combat Disaster', but the disaster was the preparation, orders, intel and backup. Dont see any real issue by the soldiers on the ground. They were put in a bad position and did surprisingly well.

I appreciate your acknowledgement of the efforts by the Chinese Peacekeepers to protect the civilians and goods under their care. I'm not a big fan of their government, either, but it seems their troops tried their best in a really bad situation, and they deserve credit for that. Thanks for acknowledging the two soldiers who were killed in action, too. It seems a little unfair they they did not receive more recognition at the time.

@abemartinez9623

11 ай бұрын

I agree . It was noble they tried . An lost 2 men. Respect where it’s due

@garrettosborne4364

10 ай бұрын

It's not so much the soldiers--although they showed below average initiative after the events--it's the lack of preparation in regards the mission and that is a Command issue.

@KING-XINJIANG

10 ай бұрын

​@@garrettosborne4364他们不是执行作战行动，维和部队的任务限制很多，对指挥层更是限制很多。 关于PLA的指挥和作战能力，你可以通过过去几十年的历史记录了解，你会发现他们最终都是胜利者。

@KING-XINJIANG

10 ай бұрын

你一定没来过中国大陆地区，如果你来过，并且生活半年以上，你会和很多外国人一样，大概率喜欢上共产党政府。如果你偶遇中国发生自然灾害，你可能会看到PLA的非军事行动，你会和中国大陆人民一样，疯狂的喜爱PLA。

@KING-XINJIANG

10 ай бұрын

再说个有趣的现象：如果中国大陆政府缺少对某些国家、地区的政权的好感，那么绝大多数中国人民也会缺少对这些政权的好感。 不是仅仅因为中国人信任中国大陆政府的眼光，主要是因为中国人对获取外界信息、判断外界信息的方式很科学。 中国人不是只听本国媒体对外界的介绍，还收集中国人在境外的亲身经历感受、浏览境外官方、非官方媒体内容、阅读外国语言的史料记录等等多种方式来获得信息再判断，这种习惯导致的思考结果大概率会更加精准、客观，更加独立自主。而中国大陆政府也是如此获取、分析外界信息，一样的方法自然会出一致性很高的结论，所以：如果中国大陆政府不喜欢某些政权的某些行为，中国人民也大概率一样不喜欢。 欧美等其它国家的普通人，给我的感觉是很依赖本国媒体，相对于中国人，他们缺少亲身体验的信息探索心态，也缺少获取本国媒体以外媒体、史料信息的主动性，从而得到的信息很多都是有偏差的不客观不准确的。 在这种基础上，他们对外界的一些评论和判断，在另一侧的人们看来，很多会显得无知和可笑😂 比如对中国大陆政府的了解，如果没钱买机票来中国旅游，没有亲身体验了解的机会，那么可以通过网络了解啊！ 中国又不是没有互联网，境外又不是不能访问中国互联网信息，不懂中文总可以借助浏览器的谷歌翻译插件阅读浏览吧？

In my forty years of TV production, I've never seen anyone be so at ease in front of a camera. And you are so incredibly bright, funny, and hard-working:

Very well made video.

This is not a PLA issue. It is a UN issue....

@surelb

Жыл бұрын

Agreed un failed to protect other un troops no qrf either

@randomnobodovsky3692

Жыл бұрын

@@surelb Those aren't/weren't UN troops, because UN has no troops.

@d.o.g573

Жыл бұрын

The Chinese got tested - and failed miserably. The wailing of Chinese soldiers was pathetic

@EroticOnion23

Жыл бұрын

@@randomnobodovsky3692 they were "loaned" to the UN

@Aljam10000

Жыл бұрын

I have not heard of a successful un peacekeeping mission it always seems like a repeat of Jadotsville

Poor lads were caught between a rock and a hard place. Failure in the UN command of the mission cost those 2 men their lives. Fair play to you for honouring them. RIP

@bobsemple9341

11 ай бұрын

This wasn't the UNs failure. Those soldiers should be jailed for what they did. Don't try shift the blame. China failed here. And people died bc of it. China should be kicked out of the UN

@sostrucking

9 ай бұрын

The UN don't give a crap about those 2 men. It's all for political points and those troops are pawns

@Hello-ig1px

9 ай бұрын

why are you offering sympathies to chinese soldiers?

@SvalbardSleeperDistrict

9 ай бұрын

@@Hello-ig1px Why are they offering sympathies to individuals who joined an international mission to protect civilians from armed, often illegal, militias at the risk to their lives? Do you at least realise that what you asked, and what you focused on in your question, speaks about you and nobody else?

@Hello-ig1px

9 ай бұрын

@@SvalbardSleeperDistrict doesn't this video talk about how the chinese... 1. Joined for their own interest, they wanted to protect the natural resources that they were profiting off of? 2. They did absolutely nothing to protect the ciivilians, they literally fled and left them to fend for themselves. Are you trolling?

Great presentations

Deep respect to you for the empathetic recount.

If anyone wants a comparable analogue, look up the Siege Of Jadotville, The Irish UN troops fought to quite literally THE LAST BULLET and only surrendered when they had no more ammunition and explosives to fight back. And they were much more underequipped than the chinese in this situation

@TheAzureNightmare

Жыл бұрын

God Save Ireland.

@SpaceMarine500

Жыл бұрын

Battlefield conditions were way different.

@tomasgoes

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheAzureNightmare No, no. God save the world from Ireland.

@ArtyTheBasedGod

Жыл бұрын

​@@SpaceMarine500cope

@roadhouse6999

Жыл бұрын

@@SpaceMarine500 That's true, the Irish fought an even larger enemy with air support.

Remember this. The soldier that got injured died 11 hours after he was injured. That definitely means he would’ve survived if he had proper medical care. If you’re a soldier and you know there is NO medical support if you get injured - you’d be pretty tentative too. Especially after seeing one your comrades die unnecessarily.

@Brandon-sr2bl

10 ай бұрын

@@americandissident9062 why would you say someone died on a peacekeeping mission is good? That’s messed up

@americandissident9062

10 ай бұрын

@@Brandon-sr2bl It’s a good thing when totalitarian organizations lose people.

@chrisreid5745

10 ай бұрын

Yea that's not true

@poconofrank9476

9 ай бұрын

The OP is not true. You can have very good medical care and still die from serious injuries 11 hours or even 11 years later.

@frenzalrhomb6919

9 ай бұрын

@@Brandon-sr2bl His name says it all.

Jeder der für in einer Un Mission sein Leben verliert gebührt Respekt, egal aus welchem Land er kommt

@Alvan81

5 ай бұрын

100%

@ericareaper8750

4 ай бұрын

Definitely

Thanks!

No matter the flag, a soldier fighting to protect the innocent will always be recognized. Thank you for staying neutral on the subject despite how heavily drenched in controversy it was.

@longiusaescius2537

10 ай бұрын

What's your pfp?

@Azf12

10 ай бұрын

@@longiusaescius2537 Big Boss, specifically it's a redrawing from a comic by Hiimdaisy

@longiusaescius2537

10 ай бұрын

@@Azf12 thank you

@grayfox9869

9 ай бұрын

​@@Azf12he really looks like Johnny joestar

@freddy9646

9 ай бұрын

​​​@@trollolol705unfortunately china didn't join. They are a founding member of the UN. I don't know why the majority of the UN doesn't just form a new council excluding Russia and China. It's a joke when the 2 founding and permanent members use it to veto votes that actually might mean something

Doesn't matter which country they are from, any UN peacekeeper casualty is a loss for everyone. Huge respect to them and may god give their soul peace.

@RSTactical

Жыл бұрын

If you think that UN is helping people you're brainwashed

@arthas640

11 ай бұрын

Remember when China went to war with the UN to try and conquer a neighboring country and keep the UN off their border? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Thank you for reporting in an unbiased fashion which let me reach my own conclusions on the subject.

Well said . Fair and balanced !

I think the soldiers did fine. They were put in extremely poor circumstances and accounted themselves as well as any soldiers given them. But I also think this points to massive systemic issues, possibly irredeemable ones. I just cant tell you if they lay with the PLA, the UN, or both. Theres such a layered cake of failure here, its hard to say anything but the soldiers did the best they could do

@neurofiedyamato8763

Жыл бұрын

I say both, but I reckon the UN takes a larger share of the blame. It is fixable, all systemic issues are fixable. It's just if you are willing to do it.

@Nabeel-ss9tl

Жыл бұрын

11:50am I don't agree with the title of this post It should be ( another failure of UN peace keeping force to protect their own soldiers by providing the adequate equipment and communication for the job)

@stacymcmahon453

Жыл бұрын

It's the UN. I don't love China, but these troops look to have done their best under the usual charlie foxtrot conditions that obtain with these UN visibility missions. It's more important to have diversity even if it means there's no integration at all among the troops manning a given AO. Troops can't have heavy weapons or decent non-combat support because it looks like colonization or something. And at this point every tinpot warlord knows the blue helmets have little staying power if pressed. The Chinese with their one child policy are reputed to dote on their sons, so maybe there will be public pressure on Xi to make these peacekeeping missions safer and it will result in some drive to improve UN command structure.

@cooldudecs

Жыл бұрын

@@stacymcmahon453 they suck. Just like Russia but worse

@annfuckantifa5973

Жыл бұрын

​@@indiasuperclean6969😂😂

Mad respect for the Chinese soldiers who tried to do what was right regardless of the commanders passing the buck. Thank you T&P for highlighting the troops who died that day. As a retired Army, I understand that at the end of the day regardless of nationality, there are two mothers who have outlived their sons. I pray that they find peace knowing their sons died protecting the innocent.

@bobsemple9341

11 ай бұрын

Respect even tho they abandoned their posts? Nah. They should be prosecuted for the deaths of civilians and China kicked out of the UN

@mairiconnell6282

10 ай бұрын

Not only the Commanders but the CCP behind the propaganda.

@ShutUpBubi

10 ай бұрын

Respect to the men who'd kill you and your family in a heart beat? God, we're going to lose a war with China so, so badly.

@Azir0909

10 ай бұрын

Emma with two mom?

@thatscrazy3554

10 ай бұрын

@@Azir0909not the same army he was in though that’s modern day U.S. army

Informative

Finally someone catering to those of us with 20 dads. Thank you goat gun!

I appreciate the tribute you did for those soldiers. It was a noble thing to do.

My uncle served in the US army as a peacekeeper in Bosnia during those conflicts but at any rate his unit was not allowed to carry ammo into the field to protect themselves or the civilians.

@marcotolomio5269

10 ай бұрын

Peacekeeping in Bosnia was a clusterfuck.

@XXIIIIXXXIIIXXXXIII

10 ай бұрын

@@marcotolomio5269 agreed

@newton18311

9 ай бұрын

And thats the problem, Un troops should be armed to the teeth,

@Unchainedful

9 ай бұрын

You can’t be a peacekeeper while actively serving your military. If you’re still active duty in the army, it’s considered abandonment if you serve the UN. Unless you meant he went on patrols in the US Army. In any case the rules of engagement is FAR better in the army than it is as a UN peacekeeper.

@gaiuscassius9439

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@Unchainedfulif you’re a UN peacekeeper (serving in a military capacity) you can only be part of the military. Like you saw in the video, peacekeeping infantry forces are loaned out directly from the participant nation’s militaries. The United States was part of UNPROFOR sending 315 soldiers to Macedonia with a total of 748 US troops serving in the PROFOR. A NATO coalition also participated in the conflict but that is separate from the peacekeeping mission.

Iyour podcast was interesting and informative. So and went ahead and hit liked, and subscribe. But Id really like to say how ,at the end you gave kudos to those chinese troops for being there and doing ,most likely the best they could with so little to work with. Not to mention the lack of training. Those poor kids. And, you cited the names of (2) chinese soldiers whom lost thier lives in the action. I thought that acknowledging thier trial and sacrifice shows you to b an admirably thoughtful and humane person. Keep up the good work

Fair video. It mentioned the weakness of the PLA army to UN and also mentioned their efforts in defending the people with limited resources.

That was cool of you to recognize the soldiers by name and their picture. It really brings it home to see the faces of those who died. I always think of the amazing things we could accomplish if Russia, China, India, Europe and the USA along with everyone else could move past the pettiness and selfishness that our governments seem to think is the only way to do business. I would much rather see soldiers from different nationalities working together towards a cause that benefits Humanity as a whole instead of fighting each other.

@dallasyap3064

Жыл бұрын

I would agree too

@david-468

Жыл бұрын

All of what you said except 3 countries are ran by the same groups of people, who all have the same goal, and it’s the opposite of what you want

@jedimindtrix2142

Жыл бұрын

@@david-468 That was the whole point of the comment. Recognizing that if those people didn't have the hold on power they do that we would be able to do amazing things instead of what we have now.

@Kapt_Klaw

Жыл бұрын

@@david-468 True bro! Those 3 countries are Russia, China and USA.

@rodiculous9464

Жыл бұрын

Russia and India gets along just fine. China and India have some border squabbles but nothing major. Russia and China get along just fine. Europe were perfectly content relying on russian energy and Chinese demand for the products. Gee I wonder who the outlier is 🤔

Looking more into the battle I will say that the UN peacekeeping core desperately needs to be overhauled and they need to receive the adequate equipment in order for them to actually do their mission and for the love of god get ride of those blue helmets.

@Penigale

Жыл бұрын

They could definitely do with modernisation and reorganisation

@mikdukevich9838

Жыл бұрын

I agree there’s more tasteful ways to do the insignia and colour etc, if they really need something blue give them a goddamn arm band not a massive blueberry helmet

@joeojeda4651

Жыл бұрын

They are also pedos and traffickers....so nod, they should get bright neon uniforms.

@jki808

Жыл бұрын

I have literally no doubt in my mind that if it hasn’t already gotten a soldier killed, it will. There will be troop movement at 300 some odd yards, he’s gonna be crouching, and the helmets gonna get his ass spotted.

@gripen6969

Жыл бұрын

It's just like screaming " hey, target over here".........🙆🤷🤦🎯

God bless u Cappi

I love how you have to specify they are nonfiring for KZread and they still fuck it up

Though this does not look good for the Chinese soldiers, the UN is such a flawed organization it is hard to judge the PLA from this.

@dickmelsonlupot7697

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't even judge the PLA at all and go so far as to say that they are more like the victims here. This is more an inherent problem of the UN especially if you consider the fact that this isn't even the first time this has happened and the UN has a big catalogue of similar incidents even with Armies that are supposed to be more "advanced" since they're from the West. I would say that if the Chinese in this situation had the same equipment as the mainland Army, then I'd think they would have held their ground properly even with their fckkkdd up and flawed system. Better their system than the UN.

As an American veteran, I know their pain.

@artnull13

Жыл бұрын

As a CCP Veteran I can say we ran away and used civilians as body shields

@glOckcOma

Жыл бұрын

Thier plan: Hide in a corner and hope for the best.

@u2beuser714

Жыл бұрын

​@@artnull13 Today on things that never happened

@hillbillyangle

Жыл бұрын

@@artnull13 You're speaking from your ASSSS!

@rifqimujahid4907

Жыл бұрын

well here you are alive, clearly you have no idea

9:27 I can't find that camo (information on it) online, blue, yellow and purple was not expecting to see them and im so very curious.

I remember hearing a KZreadr say that the 2016 Sudan event was the reason Wolf Warrior 2 was released in 2017.

Within PLA, it's actually very competitive to get selected to go on these UN peacekeeping missions, there are much more soldiers who internally applied than spots available

@jeffreylai6796

Жыл бұрын

⁠@Chase Williams i’ve heard ppl saying overseas rotation has a higher allowance with unpeacekeeping being the highest and djibouti base being the second

@bobsemple9341

11 ай бұрын

So this is their best? Fucking god

Expecting UN peacekeeping troops (from any country) to use force in defense of the mission--is like expecting pigs to fly out of a cow's arse.

@davem2369

Жыл бұрын

That's a problem with how the UN plans stuff and the rules they put in place on the missions, not necessarily the soldiers. UN members frequently have ulterior motives in how they want things to turn out. The way the UN pays for missions is also an issue as some countries get payed more to provide a soldier than they would normally pay that guy in wages, this it's profitable for them to provide so not so well trained troops ( look at some of the countries that are big contributors)

@scottw5253

Жыл бұрын

Until their mission becomes enforcement of the WHO "guidelines," and then they'll be full of a will to fight for everyone's "health and safety."

@aclown36

Жыл бұрын

The UN sure did do good in Yugoslavia....

@davem2369

Жыл бұрын

@@scottw5253 I bet you still believe in those FEMA death camps and UN troops waiting to invade the US

@thesaltycabbage

Жыл бұрын

​@@aclown36 NATO carried out any offensive operations the UN only carried out humanitarian operations.

That really sucks. The guy on the left 15:52 whom I believe is Yang Shupeng looked like a good honorable man. Rest in peace

The ninja rolls on open ground lol.

I'm not a fan of China at all, but putting your life on the line to save another Countries citizens goes above politics and nationalism. Good on you for the respect, even if things didn't go as planned.

@12ww37

Жыл бұрын

👍

@stayplay3063

Жыл бұрын

Last year indian and Chinese soilder were on a peace keeping mission jointly They were attacked by terrorist In this incident two Indian soilder died due to Chinese They ran away with car 😭😭 leaving Indian soilder behind God thanks to others Indian soilder they push them back But in this incident 2 indian soilder died India have lost most number of soilder in un peace keeping mission And never any Indian soilder ran away But chinese soilder always have this drama

@xanders.3810

Жыл бұрын

A lot of countries do this. It's not special

@JAFrk

Жыл бұрын

@@xanders.3810 Whataboutism isn't a good argument, try again.

@dizzee

Жыл бұрын

@@xanders.3810 He is referring to the individual soldiers putting their life on the line. Not a country.

Not even 10 seconds in a guy did a roll like he was in a video game…

ok as a Chinese that have lived in China for 14 years and had seen Chinese military training, all I could say getting the Chinese military to abandon civilians is harder than you climbing Mount Everest, specially when there is Chinese in the crowd. I think that problem is with the uN engagement rules, as I was asked to do a presentation on the effectiveness of the un at school, and I argued that the un wasn't effective with engagement rule being one of the reasons.

I don’t know what that general is talking about in his report saying that they didn’t do enough. What’s a rifleman supposed to do against tanks and artillery in an encirclement maneuver?

@christopherlane5238

Жыл бұрын

Thats a great example of pride displacing reality. Something China does alot.

@amistrophy

Жыл бұрын

​@@christopherlane5238 Your comment is completely unhinged

@NullElemental

Жыл бұрын

dig in, look for troops not UN carrying weapons, and neutralise them?

@civilengineer3349

Жыл бұрын

Run, hide, and call for help

@stefthorman8548

Жыл бұрын

@@NullElemental how? did you look at their "barricades" how are they supposed to "dig in", which requires an fortified position? and did you not hear that their was two armies, aside from the UN?

Keep doing these. Got hooked on the channel through the technical reviews of various vehicles, firearms, ordnance, etc. But these videos about what's really going on right now around the world focusing on military technology as a whole and geopolitical/military events is next level. You've matured, Cappy. I'm proud of you. Keep it up.

@Winter420

Жыл бұрын

you have a the logo for a terrorist organization as your display picture

As a former RVN combat Grunt, I was moved by your homage to the two fallen Chinese Soldiers. "Fitting and proper. "

Rules of Engagement? We don't need no stupid Rules of Engagement!

I'm not a fan of the Chinese, but I love this unbiased analysis. Thanks.

@jgamer2228

Жыл бұрын

I dislike the Chinese Communist Party. The people of China are not my enemy.

@canesno1fan

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean the Chinese government, or do you have a problem with "the Chinese" in general?

@dorkanderson4963

Жыл бұрын

Might want to visit China before you make judgments unless you like strangers telling you how to think and feel.

@fukuarabu2755

Жыл бұрын

Sell out😂🎉 channel. American it is time for fallen. 😂🎉

@songcramp66

Жыл бұрын

@@dorkanderson4963 So I have to visit China to know that cameras with face IDs on every block and authoritarianism is not to my liking? Do I have to visit Afghanistan to know that I'm not into Sharia law as well?

Similar to Rwanda - UN troops (Canadian, Belgium, etc) were lightly armed and in a tactical disadvantage. Having served in the FRY in the 90’s - why would anyone choose to get themselves killed by stepping in between two warring factions?

@timoooo7320

Жыл бұрын

Same in Yugoslavia 1990s as well. Typical UN

@royhuang9715

Жыл бұрын

Well that’s why they are called peacekeepers, they stepping in to keep 2 waring factions from kill each other and most importantly killing civilians. You argument is like why firefighter fights fire, why police engage armed criminals.

@Harbinger343

Жыл бұрын

@@royhuang9715 funny - i was a soldier on several UN missions as well as a firefighter, at no time was I ever given a “duty to die’.” Risk management is a real thing and lightly armed soldiers are not required to step between two warring actions when neither are interested in a cease-fire.

@ErikPT

Жыл бұрын

@@timoooo7320that was dubbed the Siege of Saravejo

@ulrichkristensen4087

Жыл бұрын

​@@timoooo7320Denmark did with its Leopard tanks

RIP to the soldiers and their sacrifices

A moment of silence for fellow soldiers.😞

I'm no military expert but I'd imagine that it is extremely difficult to conduct a peace keeping mission when the two sides that you're trying to keep from fighting out-gun and probably outnumber you. I get that there are political considerations when it comes to having heavily armed foreign troops but the ulternative is the deaths of non-combatants. The UN should have planned better.

@donderstorm1845

11 ай бұрын

ya, it's a lose-lose situation for the UN troops. they have their hands tied and they're supposed to fight.

@bobsemple9341

11 ай бұрын

​@@donderstorm1845 yes. They were supposed to fight. It's their job. They failed at even thaf

@bobsemple9341

11 ай бұрын

This isn't the UNs failure. Any other nation would have got on better. China should be kicked out of the UN and those soldiers jailed

@donderstorm1845

11 ай бұрын

@@bobsemple9341 seems like you should work on your reading comprehension. the whole problem is that they didn't know if they were allowed to fight back, and they didn't have the necessary equipment either.

@bobsemple9341

11 ай бұрын

@@donderstorm1845 oh they knew. They were ordered. They just ignored the order and hid. Why are u defending pathetic soldiers that should be in jail?

How much of this is the UN not preparing the peacekeeping mission for having to defend against such heavily armed militias and doing nothing to prevent the civil war from getting so close to the UN camp to begin with?

@shinodamasaru7945

Жыл бұрын

UN is such a joke

@12washere

Жыл бұрын

UN is political? i think they would care less

@royhuang9715

Жыл бұрын

UN peacekeeping mission going south is not abnormal. It happens a lot of times.

The Chinese normally wait for their enemy to destroy themselves.

This is an army to be concerned with, but not afraid of! Soldiers refusing orders is incredible!

@hawky225

Ай бұрын

Soldiers aren't suicidal. When you only have small calibre weapons and thinly armored vehicles against tanks and RPGs, you're not going to go charging out of the gate just because someone sitting in their ivory tower tells you to.

hard to pin most of the blame on the PLA when we know what its like to be in a UN mission

@NeostormXLMAX

Жыл бұрын

These channels are vermently anti china and needs to slander china at any opportunity

In all honesty I think the main failure here was that the UN force the PLA sent was not adequately equiped or set up for what it was intended to do. Just like the Dutch tanks in Sebrinica and US troops in Somalia or Belgian troops Rawanda it's not also unusual for UN units to be inadequately equiped for the job that they're being asked to do when the fighting actually starts. Peace keeping is by its nature very difficult in terms of ROE, and what the role actually is for infantry in outdated APCs to go up against tanks and artilery wihout air support is unrealistic.

@mybru1

Жыл бұрын

This is a prime example 9f why south africa constantly integrates paratroopers pathfinders, infantry recon and sf into regular infantry units during UN deployements. 99% of the time battle hardened and combat proven officers from the parachute regiment or even SF would be place in charge of these contingents in order to ensure that the comand and control structure work perfectly and to ensure that all the neccasary training is done long before deployement

@davidgoodnow269

Жыл бұрын

Really? Did you ever think about, "What Rules of Engagement _would work_ for Peacekeeping, if the goal was 'Peace'?" The Romans knew. That's why it was called, "Pax Romana."

@tomriley5790

Жыл бұрын

@@davidgoodnow269 the Romans spent most of their time dealing with rebellions either from foreign powers or within their own power system, they were bloody martialistic economically and technologically stagnant. there's a reason we refer to a Byzantine Beaurecracy.

@tomriley5790

Жыл бұрын

It is worth mentioning that it is possible to hold against a superior force equiped with artilery and tanks - the British Army (Welch Fusiliers held off the Serbian attack on Gorazde likely saving the city from a similar fate to Sebrinica and earning Lt Col. Westley a very well deserved MC.

@davidgoodnow269

Жыл бұрын

@@tomriley5790 Pre-Byzantium, try looking up, "Pax Romana," and actually learning what you are talking about!

Wow😮

Sounds like the PLA forces did the absolute best in a horrible situation.

Once again, you did a very good job summarizing what happened during those days. It was nice of you to give recognition to those who lost their lives while protecting others.

they are more focused on a fancy show then actual combat which most have not even experienced before

0:03 this move will do great in the newest Star Wars movie 😊

Chinas officer to enlisted ratio is ridiculous. Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians

@Charles-pf7zy

Жыл бұрын

That’s standard for a country that is definitely willing to use mass conscription. Having a lot of officers is so that a hypothetical draft force can have adequate quantities of leadership w/o having to rush officers through training too. The US was like that before the draft was abolished too

@usapanda7303

Жыл бұрын

The officers all come from wealthy families, are red princes, or bribed their way into these positions.

@jonshaw840

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say too many Indians. The results of some of their scuffles at the border sometimes shows there are too many Indians 😉 if you get what I mean

@neckbeardpig279

Жыл бұрын

That matters on what kind of officers they are. As Medical personnel and subject matter experts in other countries are usually officers. Since officers are the individuals who have a formal education. So if a decent chunk of those officers were support specialists then the ratio would make a lot of sense. Especially on a UN peace keeping mission. Where the Chinese probably expected to spend most of the time assisting the host country.

@musicheaven1679

Жыл бұрын

If I'm getting this right your implying that if the peace keaping force was fully Indian they'd have smashed the insurgent armies?

Props to any soldier who makes the ultimate sacrifice in service of their nation. Regardless of the policies of your leaders, your bravery will continue to inspire us.

Joint theater command should be comprising of officers with experience in serving under similar conditions and constraints. JTC can help in improving coordination in such scenarios.

I never would have guessed that Mark Normand knew so much about Chinese UN peacekeepers.

RIP Yang Shupeng and Li Lei for their sacrifice won’t be forgotten ever

Combat diaster, nice…

@wingcommanderjetson5660

Жыл бұрын

😅

@galazar4831

Жыл бұрын

haha you got him, pwned! unsubscribed!

@Reisi81

Жыл бұрын

It's diaster allright!

@haparcheledupwar

Жыл бұрын

Yahh, chaynaaa KARMA 😂😂😂😂😂

12:50 Wow they used the rifle as a leg splint! 😮😮😮 12:50

"Chinese peackeeping troops" is a joke in itself.

Love your clip, Cappy! UN missions can only do so much. They can halt criminals and feed the starving, but state-level conflicts are too much to ask of them.

I love the tribute you put for those soldiers at the end ❤

R.I.P Yang Shupeng and Li Lei . may you men rest in peace.

Thank you, Chris, for your excellent commentary on the situation. Fair, objective, and insightful. You deserve to be a lead commentator on a national network. Regarding the medical care of the injured soldier - I have the impression the US armed forces have really stepped up emergency medical training for front-line combatants. There are statistically verifiable improvements in survival.

I am retired solder who has served in UN Honestly no country wants to loose it solders for this missions indian troops have lost many life’s protection UN Resources in past couple of years

@ayanned

Жыл бұрын

Leave these bonobos to their own devices. Let them destroy themselves.

@karanbirsinghbhullar

Жыл бұрын

​@@indiasuperclean6969 ja na yaar

@sahilsingh6782

Жыл бұрын

​​@@indiasuperclean6969 yo pakistani. .. don't you have better stuff to do ....

@sibernthaw6270

Жыл бұрын

crazy the Canadian over structure understood, they had to make a harder initial investment to keep their fighters safe as well as the citizens contained in their mission.... math is hard...

@Lookmaxxed_Pikachu_69

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service.

Also the Irish guys at the Siege of Jadotville is easily the most badass UN peacekeeper story. Way back in the day when people still thought the UN might amount to something.

@studleyjb3172

9 ай бұрын

When we're those days?

@sheepbeeps3369

8 ай бұрын

@@studleyjb3172 1960s/1970s when the UN acted as the peacekeeper between the US and USSR so they don't nuke each other and end all life on earth, and was helping the post colonial nations get on their feet in a way that didn't force them to side with a cold war sugar daddy.

@tekha1977

6 ай бұрын

A close second is Operation Hooligan Bashing in the 90’s.

@jamesdelaney3797

6 ай бұрын

I remember that

“And never judges me for it”, proceeds to judge a reviewer.

Intresting - the commercial was for a Chinese operating company in Sweden

In direct contrast to Filipino UN peace keepers deployed in Golan Heights who successfully defended position 68 & 69 from an Alqueda attack in a 7 hour firefight back in 2015. They also successfully re grouped and escaped in the middle and the night. 💪

@victorwaddell6530

Жыл бұрын

I sailed in the US Navy with several Filipino sailors . You Filipinos are some hard warriors .

@paul5475

Жыл бұрын

Filipinos that being send combatants are already experience in insurgencies...

@Nortzzzz

Жыл бұрын

​@@paul5475 agree. Almost all them has special forces training and combat experience. So every Filipino soldiers sent to the UN has combat initiative and experience to do things on their own when push comes to shove.

@LA.20

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. Experience is what contributed to it.

@victorwaddell6530

Жыл бұрын

@@paul5475 Filipinos have a record of war going back to the Spanish -American War and before . The Philippines was US Territory when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor . Many Filipinos died alongside Americans during the Bataan Death March . US Army General Douglas MacArthur served many years in the Philippines and loved the country so much that he made it his personal mission to liberate it from the Japanese . The US Navy created the 7th Fleet for that purpose .