"This ancient map proves the Ming dynasty landed on the dark side of the moon" would be about as legitimate as their claim to the South China Sea

@brownro214

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t stop the CCP from claiming the moon.

@VerdeMorte

Жыл бұрын

@@brownro214 *"Attempting to claim"*

@WasatchWind

Жыл бұрын

I do not doubt they'd try it. The matter is holding military power over something as large as the Moon would be an insane exercise in logistics. While China could maybe get away with sending people to the Moon before the US can return, if the US was serious about kicking them out, SpaceX's Starship and other landers could likely field far more troops and equipment to the Lunar surface.

@asianconnection7701

Жыл бұрын

Moon /Mar landing by USA and China is all FAKE . USA we lost the technology to go back to the moon .lol

@trc8197

Жыл бұрын

"We found an ancient map describing the moon to be Chinese territory and where they may have come from." "Were building a Mars rover, and it's called kat" American news recently states the Mars rover Curious is being molested and killed by the Kat rover. Atleast they were nice enough to test their skynet out on white people first because it's easier to identify differences on whites wearing masks compared to asians without masks

I remember when China landed that rover on the moon. I was watching a live feed of it, and there were people commenting stuff like, "The west is silent about Chinese making history" like they were completely unaware that the west did the same thing 50 years ago.

@theredscourge

Жыл бұрын

@@Tokamakcat lol this video is absolutely objective on China, it was made by a person who spend YEARS living there and experiencing it for himself first hand. He experienced a long period where the official CCP policy was to treat foreigners well, then he was there for the slow transition to the official CCP policy being to treat foreigners bad and blame all of China's problems on them, and then he left. He was literally posting videos EVERY WEEK of footage he recorded by himself while riding around the countryside on his motorbike. You can still access those videos on his other KZread channels.

@me6057

Жыл бұрын

@@Tokamakcat lmao i have Chinese friends, trust me i know whats going on there🤣🤣🤣

@dredeth

Жыл бұрын

@@Tokamakcat as someone who lived in China from 2011 till 2015 I can say that things I had experienced in that time period are 100% true.

@godoffunny3068

Жыл бұрын

@@Tokamakcat - 500 Social Credit

@AdamOwenBrowning

Жыл бұрын

@@Tokamakcat If he is filling the information gap with truth, what's your little-man bitter problem with it? No spoken opinion on the planet is "objective" because we are human beings who view things through our own perspective. Your professor probably said similar things in a much less inflammatory way. it's very obvious this is anti-CCP, but these videos are funded by donors who make the choice to donate lol - people choose to throw them five bucks over Paypal or Patreon. It's free for everyone to view and any funding they do get is voluntary donations. You sound jaded and annoyed that someone is providing a filler to the information gap, producing videos and providing infotainment then people are choosing donating to them. Why?

That song was nauseous! I've said for years that no country with a space program should be receiving aid and handouts.

@bananian

2 ай бұрын

Canada doesn't even have a space program and they were sending sid to China!

I saw a short video of three Chinese astronauts in their version of the ISS floating around zero gravity and showing things...except they forgot to remove the glass of water sitting on a table!!!!!

@tommymarco

2 ай бұрын

lol !!!!!!!!!!

@JB-rf8cx

17 күн бұрын

They dont have Hollywood

One thing I find interesting is that the NASA offers public tours of their facilities, that (until very recently -- Ukrainian War) Roscosmos offered public tours, and that the ESA offers public tours of their facilities. To my knowledge, China National Space Administration does not offer public tours of their facilities. Just saying.

@lip124

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, do they even film there pilots in space to show the people 🤔. I've NEVER seen any

@jacqquelinetackaberry5450

Жыл бұрын

Many of us in the USA are really NOT sure ANYONE went to the moon 🤷‍♀️ We have VERY little trust in our institutions these days!!

@jacqquelinetackaberry5450

Жыл бұрын

We think it was a HOLLYSLEAZE production 🤑

@joeybacker8429

Жыл бұрын

It's always the same. Take KZread f.e., an american company, everyone use it in Europe, still available in Russia, but China has It's own "Intranet Version"... So does North Korea

@javkiller

Жыл бұрын

Their entire space program is rolled into their military. It's one of the reasons people aren't usually excited about their projects. They do put some incredible technology up in space but since they are so spotty on what they choose to share, it's almost impossible to get any worthwhile data that's usable in the modern scientific context. They make it impossible to verify.

"Taiko" coming from the Chinese word for space and "naut" for what they contributed to space technology - this had me in stitches.

@chrissharp5073

Жыл бұрын

I thought it a Mexican chilly dog!!!!!

@MrNajibrazak

Жыл бұрын

"Taiko" also means Big Brother in Cantonese. Triad lords and lieutenants are also addressed as taiko. When the entire country and foreign policies are run in triad like mentality It's just space with CCP characteristics.

@AdamOwenBrowning

Жыл бұрын

"Taikun" (大君) also existed as a veneration in archaic Japanese. That's "tycoon" in English today. idk if there's any link lol. that line made me put my pen down and laugh

@lifeisbutadreamsodreamon

Жыл бұрын

I know, I was taking a sip of coffee and inhaled, the delivery was on point 😄

@lederp8096

Жыл бұрын

they shortened "taikong" (full word) to "taiko" to merge with the "naut"

That song is never gonna leave my head now. Thanks

2023-07 -- It is a common mistake to call it the "dark side of the moon". The moon is tidally locked with Earth (1 moon rotation for every trip around the Earth) so we only ever get to see the one side of it when we look up at the moon. The correct name is "far side of the moon" as it is lit by the sun half of the time and is not in perpetual darkness. When the moon is in its "new moon" phase the far side is lit up fully.

@2amSpeedMerchant

Жыл бұрын

That's all heliocentric nonsense my friend. Research flat earth.

@rk-is3cw

10 ай бұрын

I think ISRO - Indian Space Research Organization is much more better than Chinese Space Agency.

@acceleratorda2172

9 ай бұрын

@@rk-is3cw yeah atleast ISRO doesn't list up fake achievements and have no bucket list of monopolizing moon for so-called "chinese" type research purposes🫠. Jokes apart but ISRO is inspirational tbh and the world can learn from the recent achievement of chandrayaan 3 on south pole.

@rk-is3cw

9 ай бұрын

@@acceleratorda2172 Actually as an Indian, I am proud that ISRO did great achievement with very limited Budget.

@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr

26 күн бұрын

Sir Patrick moore stated on several occasions that there was a dark side of the moon and because it's so dark no video or film footage of it! Which I always thought of as strange because as you rightly point out if the Moon is lit by the sun and is supposedly revolving around the earth then it will be lit by the sun all over equally. But why do they say the dark side of the moon? Pink Floyd even made an album of it and nobody has ever questioned the title?

One quick correction/addition: NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) is currently in orbit around the Moon and has a great view of the Moon's far side. In fact, when China landed Chang'e 4&5, they requested help from NASA to view the landing site and deployment of the rover. This was one of the very few times the U.S. and China have worked together in space.

@darshpatel3427

Жыл бұрын

I think ISRO also has a reconnaissance satellite in orbit around the moon

@jasonboness3871

Жыл бұрын

Just means it infiltrated by China, just like Joe Biden...

@bigafroman4277

Жыл бұрын

@@darshpatel3427 yes that wold be the Chandrayaan-2! Unfortunately, the rover that was sent along with it failed to land successfully on the lunar surface though. :( Hopefully India will try again soon!

@johnc2438

Жыл бұрын

@@bigafroman4277 Good luck, India! Salute from a former JPL employee, now retired. 👍

@WaaDoku

Жыл бұрын

That and when they both worked together to rescue Mark Watney from being stranded on Mars.

I taught at a university in China for a year. I was going to teach research writing; then I discovered they first needed to learn how to do research. Most "experiments" and "research" they were conducting would not pass most grade school level science classes in the West. That was among their PhD students. They simply did not get the scientific method, and leaned extremely heavily on simply copying eachother and the western works (even if it was wrong). I spent most of my year trying to stop my students from just copying, and write something original. The big breakthrough was when I convinced them to use citations for what they copied. 😆 🤣 😂

@joanmavima5423

Жыл бұрын

😳🙄😖😬😵‍💫

@PibrochPonder

Жыл бұрын

They are fantastic at mimicking

@realtimestatic

Жыл бұрын

Lmao, them not using citations is kinda ironic

@johnhoog8279

Жыл бұрын

CCP isn't comfortable with teaching free thought. Winston covered that as well.

@invertedaura1986

Жыл бұрын

China has Universities?? 🤯

I have watched industrial espionage in public, in the middle of the day, with thousands of people around. At the Con-At Expo in Las Vegas (which is held every 3 years) I watched American, German, English and French companies chasing off (not running, just blocking them and insisting they leave) industrial spies from China while they walk up in broad day light and start taking measurements, taking tons of photos and videos, all while taking what ever flyers are available to the public, without so much as showing a hint of concern for the few hundred immediate show attendee’s that are helping the Mfgs try to protect their proprietary technology. I tried to help the best I could, without physically harming anyone, but these bastards are cold, calculated and ruthless. Eventually security came and they were removed from the show, but hours later team 2 entered and started where team 1 was stopped. It’s a nauseating feeling, and quite infuriating. I have to admit, the thought of becoming physical did cross my mind, but these devils aren’t worth going to jail for.

@daryldaryl913

Жыл бұрын

Physical is the only thing they understand. They can not be asked they must be told with re- enforcement. Treat the CCP as they treat the Chinese Citizens.

@rvarsigfusson6163

Жыл бұрын

once I heard about china making a wi-fi card and they even copy the manual with all the fails in it.... then later on the china put some extra chip on it just to spy on users.....

@korinogaro

Жыл бұрын

Why would they not behave like this when the west was allowing it for decades just to get cheap wares. Just like we ignored genocide of minorities, rapes on minorities, sterilization of minorities, concentration camps for minorities. Constant breaking human rights, work conditions so severe that factories installed nets to catch roof jumpers. We ignored all of it for decades. Why would they not be bold enough to try and blatantly take measurments in a middle of the day with hundreds of witnesses when they were doing much worse with hundreds of millions of witnesses (indirect but still) that didn't react?

@jason-qc5lr

Жыл бұрын

i hate my own country

@asasas9146

Жыл бұрын

If our security measures are so pathetic, be deserve to be stolen from until be learn.

Keep up the good work mate. You are doing a great job. Excellent presentation.

As someone who is a major aerospace enthusiast I can tell you all of the equipment they are using is made in Russia. The space suit is a Russian Sokol pressure suit. None of this is Chinese technology, it's all old Russian stuff they have Kerbal Space Programmed together.

@Xotsnik

Жыл бұрын

Bruh, time to time I have feeling that most of non-nasa space enthusiasm is only feasible as ksp mission ps elon is not different

@marashdemnika5833

Жыл бұрын

Yes But it does get the work done, if it works why not use it. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

@KhairulFadzlyAKarim

Жыл бұрын

China has always take others tech and replicate it, until they have enough know how to make their own. You sure thats not a Chinese made Russian space suit?

@jacquesstrapp3219

Жыл бұрын

@@Xotsnik Musk would kick NASA's ass at KSP. The Falcon Heavy costs a tenth of the SLS.

@Xotsnik

Жыл бұрын

@@jacquesstrapp3219 still not against my coment

Fun Fact: During the space race, NASA and it's soviet equivalent went into heavy communication to avoid an international incident, which was pretty cool that they decided to launch both craft at the same day but taking different trajectories and maneuvers so they don't crash into one another, and they even discussed which point of the moon they'd be landing on. I think there has been even a little exchange in technology between the two, but i don't know. China is effectively that one kid from the very back of the class the school bully doesn't know, it has no actual friends, and he tries to imitate the two most popular kids in school that used to be rivals and became friends and turning rivals again.

@paperburn

Жыл бұрын

Heavy communications were to prevent one side from thinking the other side launch a preemptive nuclear first strike. I do not think heartfelt cooperation was the motive.

@Punishthefalse

Жыл бұрын

@@paperburn It still worked. Cooperation is still a great way to make progress.

@paperburn

Жыл бұрын

@@Punishthefalse TRue that

@paperburn

Жыл бұрын

we defiantly did not blow each other up😌

@highonimmi

Жыл бұрын

@@paperburn sometimes that's all you can ask for

so proud to say i found your site! greatly appreciate 4he delivery of information and the amount in all of your videos. KUDOS

Their spacewalk was the most obvious fake space video i'd even seen... but then, i wasn't the target audience.

1:23 I've been around for a while and I remember a joke I've heard from a Russian guy in those early days, about the initial efforts of China to go into space. I suppose with all the successes of the Soviets at the time, they looked down a bit on China. It went like this: Q: What is the Chinese launch system like? A: It's a giant slingshot, with a million people pulling back on it. Q: Who will be the first Chinese astronaut? A: The last one to release the slingshot!

@Wbliss

Жыл бұрын

Sour grapes taste like vinegar, anything but honey. Jealousy won’t get u anywhere except for the outhouse.!

@Robin483

Жыл бұрын

and who has the last laugh...idiots! China is laughing all the way to space....

@BillyBoze

Жыл бұрын

@@Wbliss What's the pay like? Also how's life without a soul?

@jasonr5989

Жыл бұрын

@@Wbliss You stole all the tech. You can't innovate. You wouldn't have anything without the rest of the World aiding you, and you repay that aid with hostility and theft. Time is short wumao. Soon, you will not pass go, you'll not receive your 50 cents, and you'll go straight to jail ( if you're lucky ).

@geraldfrost4710

Жыл бұрын

I heard it differently. A deportation system used in Texas called the AhSplat, named after the sound it makes. "Next!"

I agree, when here in the UK we have people attending food banks it's time to stop sending £70m to China.

@Dethflash

Жыл бұрын

Here in America you get called a far right wing Trump supporter if you say something as simple as "maybe we should focus on issues here in America first before spending 40 million dollars to gender studies in Pakistan"

@mockdr

Жыл бұрын

@@Dethflash I’ve never, ever seen that happen. That’s a popular opinion. Nobody really disagrees.

@sylviam6535

Жыл бұрын

@@mockdr - The DS uses the ‘isolationist’ label against anyone opposing globalist project, and they have managed to associate that with white nationalism.

@louisbeerreviews8964

Жыл бұрын

@@Dethflash shut it

Very informative video and I really enjoy your content, thank you!

The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbitor has been in orbit around the moon for many years. It most recently spotted the crash site of the Japanese lander. The rest I agree with.

@MrDariolett

11 ай бұрын

Orbiter not orbitor.

@RockinRobbins13

10 ай бұрын

The fact remains that the LRO can monitor Chinese landings on the far (not dark) side of the Moon. It's silly to think that the Chinese can do anything they want there without being seen.

😆 I love your take on the word "TAIKONAUT" 😆 "Taiko meaning Space and Naut as in what they've contributed to space technology in general" Absolutely brilliant 🤩

@hanfucolorful9656

Жыл бұрын

He simply copied the source from China.

@Sir_Zombie1ted

Жыл бұрын

Normally, it is "Taikong" (太空), meaning "Space", then add "-naut" to it.

@ninacohen5401

Жыл бұрын

Indeed a very slick and accurate dis. Flipping 'naut' into 'nought' with nought a pause. Reminds me of Letterkenny wordplay. 👏

@hanfucolorful9656

Жыл бұрын

@@ninacohen5401 not sure what you mean, Samantha Cristoforetti, and some other European Space Agency astronauts are drilling their Chinese.

@sunneinsplendour8459

Жыл бұрын

@@hanfucolorful9656 yeah. He took the Chinese word and used it to mock them. Genius.

"We" have nothing to hide - "they" have everything to hide. That's one the differences between democracies and dictatorships. (at least when it comes to space missions) When I first visited the Kennedy Space Center in the US (I am from Germany) they showed every successfull and unsuccessfull manned and unmanned mission sent to space, it was really something. People knowingly sitting on bombs hoping they get safely out of the atmosphere into something that would also kill them if only minor mistakes happen is just crazy and admirable. Godspeed Travelers.

@BobanMisevic

Жыл бұрын

You are still under illusion that you live in democracy?

@thornekontos1560

Жыл бұрын

Is Ukraine a "Democracy"?

@peterdisabella2156

Жыл бұрын

@@thornekontos1560 Yeah it might have some corruption issues but its still a democracy.

@k.umquat8604

Жыл бұрын

The US also has things to hide.

@rickjames18

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I am actually surprised they admitted the latest failure.

Excellent commentary!

I'm new to this channel and am quite amazed at the depth of his analysis. Well done!

Well put; there is definitely a huge preoccupation of emphasizing optics over substance when it comes to both Russia and China

@TechnoMinarchist

Жыл бұрын

That's what shame cultures get you.

@kiddhkane

Жыл бұрын

Nah, not in Russia.

@laran1708

Жыл бұрын

@@kiddhkane nah with russia too, remember that big scary high tech army.

@Lobsterwithinternet

Жыл бұрын

I'd argue it’s the slogan of the modern world: Perception is Reality.

@wozslater7695

Жыл бұрын

Maybe one day in the not too distant future radical Islamic Cessna Pilots from Xinjiang will demolish some Chinese skyscrapers too? Tee-Hee-Hee, optics over substance, Tee-Hee Hee-Hee-Hee...

It's easier to "win" the space race with CGI Soo much cheaper than live action shots

@ffwast

Жыл бұрын

They heard that the moon landing was faked and figured they'd copy that idea too

@Rose.Of.Hizaki

Жыл бұрын

Sieg Zeon!

@chris929rr7

Жыл бұрын

Yep that rocket taking off at the start off the video looks very suspect indeed.

@miltmichael

Жыл бұрын

hehe don't tell the masses

@teamdestinyph

Жыл бұрын

@Neal nasa always wins, hollywood basements can spare some render farms.

Informative and hilarious love your content serpent

@salvadorvizcarra769

Жыл бұрын

Yup... Ninguna potencia Occidental ha ayudado al desarrollo de China. Nadie. Nunca. Más bien todo lo opuesto. A China la han obstaculizado y amenazado por sus éxitos. Incluso con mucha PROPAGANDA en su contra. La Propaganda Occidental (USA), nos ha hecho suponer que China es un "Estado Fallido y Represor". Pero no es así. Es todo lo contrario al Fracaso. Por donde quiera que se aprecie, aquí en China se ve la Libertad con “Progreso y Crecimiento”. China es un país fantástico. Su pueblo es único en muchos sentidos. Esta nación es ancestral, pero en serio Muy Ancestral. China es 2,000 años más antigua que el Imperio Romano. Los Romanos ya desaparecieron y los Chinos siguen vigentes como pueblo, aferrados a su enorme Herencia Cultural. Gracias a esto, los Chinos han superado cantidad de broncas internas. Las más severas iniciaron en el siglo XVIII y terminaron en el siglo XX, cuando su territorio fue ocupado por 6 potencias europeas (más Japón), que la destrozaron, la corrompieron, y la envilecieron con Opio. Aún y toda la ruina y decadencia que padecieron, ellos sobrevivieron. Pese a guerras y más guerras, resistieron. Mire acá: Apenas iniciado el siglo XX, entre los años 1911-1949, hubieron: --Revolución de Xinhai, con el fallido Golpe de Estado del nuevo Imperio ("Muera Qing Manchú. Viva el Nuevo Han"). --Segunda revolución de Xinhai. --Guerra de Unión para la protección nacional en contra de las potencias extranjeras. --Las luchas internas de los "Señores de la Guerra" en China. --Guerra de Otoño de 1927. Luego: --Primer Frente Unido. Expedición al Noroeste. --Protección contra el Imperio de Japón en la Segunda Guerra Mundial. --Segundo Frente Unido. --Segunda Guerra Civil China. ¡Tremendo desgaste! Después de 38 años de guerras continuas, les llegó la "Gran Hambruna" (1959-1961). El "Gran Salto Adelante", de Mao. Con una mortandad de casi 2 millones de Chinitos. Aunque la Propaganda nos ha hecho creer que se murieron de hambre 10 millones. Como si 2 millones no fuese una cantidad terrible. ¡Horrorosa! En fin. Sigo: En 1971, y según la OCDE, China ocupaba el lugar 44 de las economías mundiales. Ya para 1999, China estaba en el quinto puesto. En tan sólo tres décadas, China había logrado sacar de la pobreza a 800 millones de Chinos. Semejante hazaña se logró con TRABAJO y con DISCIPLINA. Hoy, China ocupa el segundo lugar... y esto lo consiguieron sin atacar a nadie, sin tirar un maldito cañonazo, sin Robar ni recursos ni territorios, sin invadir, y sin romperle las pelotas a sus vecinos. Con todo lo dicho, ¿acaso no es para hacerles a ellos una reverencia de reconocimiento? China es un país admirable. China pasó de la "Gran Hambruna" a súper potencia en 30 años. En seguida, puso en órbita su propia Estación Espacial construida en tan sólo 20 meses, para luego poner a 6 robots avanzados sobre la superficie de Marte. Una proeza increíble que se consiguió sin fastidiar a nadie. Sin meterse con nadie. ¡Ah! Pero a Occidente (USA), no le gustó nada de lo que China había logrado. Por lo tanto, para el año 2002, se preparó una campaña de PROPAGANDA (Recuerda la campaña de Propaganda contra Irán: "Armas de Destrucción Masiva", ¿del 2003? Pues igual con China) ... Propaganda para convencernos de que en China se esclavizaba; de que se traficaba con órganos infantiles; de que no se respetaban los Derechos Humanos ni los Derechos Civiles. (¡Jáh! Sí, como no). Convencernos de que en la “Gran Hambruna” murieron de hambre 10 millones, luego que 25 millones, después que fueron 100. ¡Carajo! Como si casi 2 millones de Chinos muertos por hambre no fuera un número espantoso. La Propaganda buscaba escandalizar, pero, en las Olimpiadas de Beijín 2008, todo eso, se derrumbó por la fuerza de los Hechos Verificables. Incluso hoy, intentan convencernos de que China, muy pronto, colapsará económicamente. Pues no se mira cómo, porque a veinte años después del inicio de las campañas difamatorias, vemos que China no ha parado de crecer. Su Clase Media es saludable y con movilidad en ascenso. Y en vez de irse a la baja, China repunta para ocupar el primer lugar de las Economías Mundiales. Lo dicho aquí, es una Verdad Absoluta y no Propaganda. China no ROBA ni territorios ni recursos a nadie. China no interfiere en los asuntos internos de ninguna nación. China no es ni Imperialista ni Colonialista. Mucho menos es Expansionista. China, ni siquiera en 1,000 años ha invadido a nadie en el mundo. Nunca. ¡Eso Jamás lo ha hecho! ¿Sabe usted cuántas Bases Militares tiene China fuera de su propio territorio? Ninguna. Cero. ¡Nada! China no ataca. China es un país respetuoso con todos, y es un ejemplo para todo el mundo. En cambio, Estados Unidos en apenas 250 años como nación, han “Crecido” 711 veces el tamaño de su territorio, partiendo de sus 13 colonias originales. EU tiene casi 800 Bases Militares esparcidas por todo el planeta. De esas 800, los EU tienen 93 Bases frente a China. Y es ¡AQUÍ! aquí mismo en donde está el problema con los Estados Unidos frente a China: Su Miedo. ¡Su Gran Miedo! Dado que el Imperio yanqui se construyó gracias a la Piratería, a la Esclavitud, al Genocidio, al Asesinato de Líderes de Gobierno, al Tráfico de Opio y de Cocaína; al ROBO de materias primas por la entrega y la debilidad de muchas naciones soberanas sometidas, ellos le temen al Crecimiento de China. Le temen, porque piensan que China se comportará del mismo modo que los Estadounidenses. Y no. China NO es lo mismo que EU. Para China el “Progreso y Crecimiento”, se logra con trabajo y no subyugando ni avasallando a los demás. “Progreso y Crecimiento” se trata de alcanzar un Futuro mejor. Se trata de que la gente viva bien, sin hambre, sin ignorancia y sin pobreza. Y eso, se puede conseguir, así, como lo están haciendo los Chinos como pueblo y como Gobierno: Sin Joder a Nadie en el exterior. Y sin Reprimir las Libertades Civiles en su interior… aún y cuando la Propaganda quiera convencernos de lo contrario.

"without GPS the PLA might not know what direction taiwan is in" bruh this had me rolling.

As someone who has been a space enthusiast for a long time, I can name 4 separate American private companies that make more advanced rockets than the Chinese space program.

@remo27

Жыл бұрын

And you can name exactly ONE that has the resources and track record to show it can COMPETE with the Chinese Space Program. That company is Space X, which, if Starship works, will have officially eclipsed every country and Space Program in the world. Name the others, and I'll knock them down. Blue Origin for instance, is so far behind on all its promises as to be a joke: founded two years before Space X it has yet to actually reach orbit and pictures of New Glenn are rather scarce. And it has one of the richest men on the planet funding it, so that is not the problem. I love Rocketlab, but they are only now working on a small intermediate power rocket and still haven't finished their initial reuse research. In short, I think you are talking out of your ass.

@andrewdoesyt7787

Жыл бұрын

@@remo27 Why did you just skip over ULA? That company makes some of the biggest, most reliable, rockets of all time, with the Atlas V being a reliable, very frequently used, heavy launch vehicle, and the Delta IV one of the most powerful and reliable rockets to date, plus with the coming up Vulcan centaur which has not yet launched. SpaceX does not compete with the Chinese space program, they completely blow the Chinese space program out of the water in just about every way when it comes to rockets. Rocket lab is not just “experimenting” with reusability, they have already successfully reused the first stage, and already have had multiple low cost non-reused launches. That does not to include the future plans for Neutron, a mostly reusable heavy launcher. Another company, Virgin orbit (not virgin galactic) has already has several successful trips to orbit at a very low cost. 3 more companies, Firefly, Relativity space, and Astra, however, these company’s are almost at successful launch and reuse, not quite. So yea, maybe not 4 companies that beat the Chinese space program, but nearly.

@remo27

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdoesyt7787 Anyway, while I am happy that so many small launch providers seem like they might succeed at this or that , the key word is SMALL. Like the US governments real ambitions in space (small and very constrained for 50 years now if you base it on actual funding rather than speeches and always years in the future NASA promises) these are not yet ...and may never be... serious competitors to anyone. China says it plans big things in space and so far DOES seem to be putting effort and money where its mouth is. IF the US wasn't full of corrupted congress critters who tend to use NASA as a jobs program and to distribute largess to various states and contractors we perhaps would utilize our private companies more and overly expensive and pork ridden rockets to nowhere like the SLS wouldn't be built, and then the Chinese would be way behind us. We could have used modified Falcon Heavy's 3 or 4 years ago and landed a person on the moon and began the process of constructing a base. Ask yourself why Congress didn't go down THAT path?

@remo27

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdoesyt7787 ULA isn't a threat and its accomplishments mostly amount to overpriced non-reusable rockets funded by the US Government and based on the same old technology as every other company for fifty years until Space X began shaking things up. It's in short, a US Government crony corporation that for years had a monopoly on US launches but couldn't compete in the world market and was made up of two legacy defense contractors space divisions, neither of which seems very ambitious when it comes to space. There's a reason they consolidated and it was partly because they didn't believe they could make big money in the Space Biz but they could make some guaranteed quid if they had a Govt monopoly on our launches.If it wasn't for Bruno it would have no credibility at all. Delta IV is being retired soon. They have a total of 3 or 4 rockets for the remaining missions and plan to build no more. Vulcan is reliant on BLUE ORIGIN for its engine, an engine that has been delayed for multiple years already. I like the ACES upper stage (IF they ever do it) and the rocket is dipping its toe into reuse with an engine they plan to catch with a helicopter, but thats still n ot enough to catch up to Space X, and they are already way behind schedule with that rocket.

@andrewdoesyt7787

Жыл бұрын

@@remo27 Yet, ULA still makes bigger and higher payload rockets than any Chinese rocket, I don’t really know how much Chinese rockets cost because their isn’t much information on it, but they also are non-reusable, plus no ULA rockets crash into villages. And by the way while yes, the Vulcan engines will be from blue origin, they will be reused after being caught from the air, which will greatly reduce cost. the body won’t be reused though. Anyways, I don’t think the Falcon Heavy by itself can take people to the moon, it’s not big and powerful enough, the Saturn V was much bigger and more powerful. And one of my biggest points are, the Chinese rockets are not reusable nor have a very high payload, China’s most powerful rocket, the CZ-5B has a equal payload to the falcon 9 single booster, and it’s also not reusable, and if they falcon 9 expended the booster, it would be like double.

You all are right. Please keep on working hard on this.

A good one..... you nailed it.... AGAIN.

I have a feeling that what is partially driving China's progress in space is the low cost of human life. During the cold war the Soviets would often make sure that the crew actually made it back home before announcing a success.

@tonysofla

Жыл бұрын

USA in 1969 knew the odds was 50/50 of death, willing to take it as to win the cold war. China is not willing to take those odds today, as no country is. China cares about the pride of Chinese life, that is the reason they have zero covid policy, as with a U.S rate they would had 2.4Million dead.

@fatasssquirrel1731

Жыл бұрын

Yup, the Soviets had a real value for human life. 😂

@NetraAmorosi

Жыл бұрын

@@fatasssquirrel1731 - About as much as the U.S. government with about 95% of all drone attack causalities being on innocent civilians not to mention the untold other civilian murders by military forces (with them even go as far at times as planting weapons on dead civs to justify their deaths which was a thing in Afganistan).

@XkriskrossX

Жыл бұрын

@@fatasssquirrel1731 Outside of putting political dissidents into gulags and sanitariums for criticizing the State - In certain ways, yes. Soviet submarines had escape pods, strangely enough… but their reactors were poorly shielded. Big oof lol

@Lazerviking1

Жыл бұрын

Vladimir Komarov would like a word with you…

I recently had the misfortune of working with a Chinese organization on some simple applications that program router machines. Not router networking, the old fashion router bits like drilling holes in wood. Anyway, it was an exercise in utter frustration. Whoever is under the impression that Chinese are brilliant or inventive in the least have been duped. This video is so spot on. They are copy cats and not even good ones. Now i have been seeing videos promoting their new aircraft manufacturing. You could not pay me enough to step foot on one of those bag of bolts.

@paulrybarczyk5013

Жыл бұрын

While they may not be brilliant or inventive by nature individually, the Chinese people do tend to be very dedicated and cooperative, with a strong work ethic. So they tend to achieve amazing things together ... much like a colony of ants does.

@brooks-e8249

Жыл бұрын

@@paulrybarczyk5013 Search for Chinese commercial airplane manufacturing. Watch the videos and read the comments. First of all the videos go from a proud "look what we did" tone to a defensive, even angry tone. That is the videos, it is not like they had a chance to read the feedback before they finished the video. They protests' too much. THEN, read the comments. They are laughable. And if you understand avionics at all, take a good look at the airframe design, and they instrumentation. They are 737 MAX airplanes. If you were going to pick a plane to copy, ask yourself, for PR reasons alone, why would you copy the MAX?

@paulrybarczyk5013

Жыл бұрын

@@brooks-e8249 Designing and building airliners requires inventive brilliance, even if you have one to copy. So I'm not surprised at the results you described.

@sinoroman

Жыл бұрын

Chinese tech is working, so still a huge milestone and cost-cutting method. Second mover advantage

@brooks-e8249

Жыл бұрын

@@paulrybarczyk5013 I agree, but just like all high tech, the devil is in the details. It is one thing to follow a design plan, even if done to perfection, and yes you have to have brains to do so, but trouble shooting and redesigning issues that may become less than stellar is where the concerns are. If you were the one who made the plane, you will have a much better idea of the issues and where to deal with them. i used the MAX as an example for a reason, the knuckleheads at Boeing used a software solution to override an issue that could be caused by a pilot if the AOA was too steep because the engines had to be set so far forward, it was a nightmare, people died, and that was horrific, no excuses, but what if they did not have any clue why the plane was pitching forward? This would have been an exponentially bigger problem.

Great video and well said.

I can't imagine China succeeded in getting someone successfully to space as they can't build a can-opener without it failing on first use

@christianblattler6518

Жыл бұрын

Copy-paste as usual then they manage it

@mis4nthr0p3

Жыл бұрын

Getting into space is one thing. Getting them back safely is another. Chiy-nah was also making noises about going to the moon and establishing a base there. Wonder if they'd bring their earth building standards with them.

@iPervy

Жыл бұрын

No joke i bought one of those p38 can openers that ended up being chinese made, and it couldnt even make a dent in the can.

@ilari90

Жыл бұрын

Low tech isn't important for them, it's the national incentive to get the space stuff done well that is different here than the basic cutlery and electronics made in the sweat shops.

@peiershen8221

Жыл бұрын

LOL china have a very bad, "Close enough" syndrome.

Thanks for putting the content out that you do regarding China. Lots of people still don't understand China, and your channel provides a way for people to understand what's really happening. Shared!

@Aroncare

Жыл бұрын

Serpents only tell his side right wing mainstream narrative that China sucks, i dont know China but this guys narrative has some trouma, sponsored western view and I don't buy it.

@1mol831

Жыл бұрын

China wasn’t in the space race to begin with. It barely left earth

@AV036

Жыл бұрын

NON of them ever left "low Earth orbit as far as we go" according to Nasa. Unless you think Nasa is lying. Maybe your smarter than the monkeys at nasa eh?😂😭

@alanrogs3990

Жыл бұрын

Why do you support the Ukraine?

@tonysofla

Жыл бұрын

@@1mol831 Mars mission Tianwen-1 ring a bell?, that is way more than lower earth orbit.

Thank you Sir. For all you work.

The CCP will produce an ancient map showing the Moon was always a part of China....

Some years ago, my brother-in-law took an expensive dress shirt to a dry cleaning business (in the USA) owned by a Chinese family. When he returned to pick it up, there was a large dark stain on the shirt. When he brought it to the attention of the owners, their response was: “The shirt was like that when you brought it in.” I have been told many times that “deny and deceive” mentality is common in Chinese culture. My brother-in-law actually took the matter to small claims court... and he won! He was not interested in the money. He was interested in getting the dry cleaners to take responsibility for ruining the shirt. A small but meaningful victory for people of honesty and integrity.

@THE_ONLY_GOD

Жыл бұрын

Sadly a viet dry cleaner in sf bay area did something similar to a custom tailored suit jacket…probably did it on purpose because he was jealous of the suit I had

@ratamahatta5306

Жыл бұрын

reminds me of one episode of family guy when peter tray taking his clothes from a chinese dry cleaning

@yongbobe478

Жыл бұрын

Chinnese would never admit their mistake. Never.

@mohinimao

Жыл бұрын

In India for same situation, dry cleaner will say sorry and we move on though frustrated😂

@cafesociety8525

Жыл бұрын

That's just dry cleaners the world over.

Back when I was in the US Army, they forced us to navigate using a compass and paper map. It made me appreciate GPS! And I would not be surprised if the Chinese were to pull out some obscure drawing with the moon and earth and try to use it to claim that the Moon was always part of China!

@jimness5902

Жыл бұрын

They think it's made of cheese another food source LOL. I know Chinese don't eat cheese all that much at least my adopted asian family doesn't I married a woman from Taiwan born in Huan China

@KevinSmith-os5yz

Жыл бұрын

Of course it's part of china, it's in their sky almost every night, that makes it theirs, right?:)

@George-xb5ey

Жыл бұрын

Asians cant handle lactose well

@chemech

Жыл бұрын

I remember teaching a handful of 11Bs how to orient their map with my Boy Scout compass while doing field testing at Hohenhels in 1992... as a civilian contractor... The E3s and E4s hadn't been taught, and the retired E8 who was the DOD civilian rep didn't know, and was placing entirely too much reliance on a wonky GPS receiver that could be off by up to 100m, depending on the number of satellites overhead. (1992 GPS tech wasn't all that great, and the constellation of satellites wasn't complete at the time) Some days, I'd have a former Cav scout assigned to the crew, and he was pretty good with map & compass skills. The Army is *supposed* to teach LANDNAV (mostly map & compass), but sometimes they fall a little short

@jonson856

Жыл бұрын

@@jimness5902 tofu

13:00 that song is a banger

The girl singing the song 🎵 😂😅😂

China is like an irredeemable anime villain with a sad backstory.

@tommymarco

2 ай бұрын

lol !

We absolutely do have satellites orbiting the moon. Including the dark side. LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter) has been orbiting the moon for over 10 years and continues to map it and make observations.

@WhatIfTrayvonMartinHadAGun

Жыл бұрын

he isn't a journalist, this channel is for fear-mongering, lol... too many facts would just get in the way

@gsrcrxsi

Жыл бұрын

@@WhatIfTrayvonMartinHadAGun to be fair. The correction is more of a technicality. While we do have LRO there. It has a maximum resolution of 1 meter, and China’s Chang’e rovers are about that size. So it can’t get a good look at what they’re doing anyway. It can barely make out the remnants of our old Apollo sites. So the idea that we can’t really see what the Chinese missions are doing is practically still true. At least as far as the information that’s public and unclassified

@takeitsleezy4520

Жыл бұрын

Is that what recorded that rocket that hit the moon recently?

@markuswx1322

Жыл бұрын

@@gsrcrxsi Excellent point, and the reason for not being complacent about what the Chinese are doing, both down here and up there.

@Medley3000

Жыл бұрын

Even the term 'dark side of the moon' is wrong. Of course, the sun shines there, too. Therefore, one should always speak of the back side of the moon.

I love your programs. You are awesome. From a HongKonger.

No wonder Putin was seen laughing every time China launch satellite in space😊😊😊

How come every thing from china looks and feels "cheap", their rockets look "cheap", and the material their space suits looks "cheap"..

@dinil5566

Жыл бұрын

Not a china fan. But I don't really think those things are "cheap"and "looks cheap". They just looks like space suits. And almost all the expensive stuffs are also mostly made in china these days. They produce both cheap stuffs and expensive stuffs.

@peiershen8221

Жыл бұрын

Sir Sir, Thats just a matter of perspective. TO china it's "Close Enough"

@stevenmoomey2115

Жыл бұрын

@@dinil5566 Did you see the Boots? Some Farmers are missing their Muck Boots.

Haha, always have to chuckle at the fun elements you put in these. "Spatial house, spatial cup,..." 🤣

I just wanted to clear up the fact that there's no "dark side of the moon". The moon receives sunlight the same way the earth does.

@4:00 I wish they would give the cameraman more credit for getting all setup for Neil Armstrong to get such a great shot of that first step.

"Nothing China does is for the betterment of mankind" - mic drop.. we're done here.

@punjabipower904

Жыл бұрын

Nothing more to expect from a communist dictatorship

You hit a lot of major points, and you had a lot of legitimate questions. Both of these are answered by one thing that's missing: China's EXTREME lack of safety. You see, the Chinese National Space Agency (CNSA), much like the rest of the regime, does not care about the lives of their people, and cares less for the people of developing countries. Of course not their Taikonauts, since that would look bad. But they take so many shortcuts, people have gotten hurt, and likely KILLED by falling Chinese rockets. As I type, the US Space Force is keeping an eye on a Long March 5 booster that China didn't put a deboost system on (every other country does). The official reason this happens have changed from "It's not out of control, stop fearmongering." to "It's fine! It'll most likely crash into the ocean anyway, not people's houses!". Sounds bad enough, except BOOSTERS HAVE crashed into people's homes before. Notably a school within China had a booster fall onto it and explode. The remaining fuel created it's own "agent orange" plume of toxic gas the kids had to flee from (class was in session). I believe in the good ofspace programs, and I believe that militarization/ownership of space is inevitable as resources are contested (the USA and China both want to set up a base at Shakleton Crater for water ice only found there. "Water is the oil of space" as we say). But the reason you go to space has to be for the benefit of ordinary people in the ground. Your employees should get paid and the resources you sell in abundance can help the world (Rare Earth elements are more plentiful on the surface of the Moon due to no volcanism). But China does not go to space for development. Developing countries have you... you know... BE DEVELOPING. China is a horrible country that could easily support its people, even with space. But the regime chooses not to.

@enoch4392

Жыл бұрын

the reason is that it is communist, but it will fall just like any other tyranny in history... well hopefully. hopefully the people don't stay ignorant forever and never revolt

@user-rp4qc7yh9g

Жыл бұрын

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@user-rp4qc7yh9g

Жыл бұрын

China is the most backward country in the world. We should worry about Endia's technology. Endia is the smartest in the world!

@sinoroman

Жыл бұрын

If it works it works. China is making it work

@jeffbenton6183

Жыл бұрын

This is a big deal among American policymakers when it comes to the whole stealing-technology thing. US-PRC space cooperation mostly ended in the early 2000s* following a certain incident. Most Chinese orbital rockets (and all at the time) are based on obsolete Soviet ICBM technology and use the highly toxic UDMH fuel as the *main propellent* for their first stages**. Basically, what happened is that a rocket veered off course and exploded near the launchpad and American investigators had to scour the site seeking sensitive components (because there wasn't a Chinese launch center at the time launching over the Ocean). Unfortunately, they didn't have any PPE on hand, so their eyeballs bulged out in the process. (I'm pretty sure the injuries were temporary, but they must've been painful). That incident, by the way, killed at least half a dozen Chinese citizens (probably more). *Except impromptu joint ops by space probes that happen to be going the same place but weren't necessarily planned to do so. Also, it's my understanding that NASA's LRO and MRO moon and mars satellites played a significant role it the selection for CNSA's landing site selection for their landers and rovers. **nearly all spacecraft use hydrazine for maneuvering thrusters, but it's extremely uncommon as a principle propellent in the rockets themselves, only Russia's ancient Proton rocket does that outside of China.

🤣😆... the music!!!

Thank you. I will stay awesome as commanded. BTW. I can feel your inner workings cringe into a sphincter at those delightful songs, a sensation not experienced since first watching the Office episode when Ricky did the monkey dance.

Just need to point out that US military aircraft and military vehicles would actually not be affected by GPS going down. Most US military vehicles use inertial reference guidance systems (and have done so for over a decade at this point). While shutting down beidou satellites would have a massive impact on Chinese capabilities, it would have almost zero impact on US capabilities.

@triadwarfare

Жыл бұрын

GPS is used for calibration as the inertial guidance can sometimes drift off course. But redundant systems help keep things working even if the other's jammed.

@wakannnai1

Жыл бұрын

@@triadwarfare Yeah but they actually don't need it. It would have a very slight error at best. While the additional accuracy would be nice it's by no means necessary. People I'm very close to worked on these systems at Northrup Grumman for the Black Hawk helicopter back in 2001-2003. I'd assume by now they're widespread throughout the military at this point. The military was always worried precisely about GPS going down and navigation needed to be reliable even without GPS. It's nice to have a backup, but GPS is mostly a redundant navigation method for navigation systems. Losing a meter or two of accuracy is probably the worst that could happen by taking GPS offline.

The CCP definitely took "fake it till you make it" to heart. Good episode, Winston -that senseless Chinese rap cracked me up ...and if any extraterrestrial life picked that up, it's no wonder they never attempted to make first contact.

@commentfreely5443

Жыл бұрын

“Thus says the Lord: ‘Cursed be the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength, whose heart turns away from the Lord’” (Jeremiah 17:5).

@sinoroman

Жыл бұрын

yeah, China is doing excellent. 🇨🇳

@bloopahVIII

Жыл бұрын

@@commentfreely5443 exodus 29:7 2) cover yourself in oil

@theredscourge

Жыл бұрын

@@bloopahVIII hey man, covering yourself in oil is a huge flex on the poors, what with oil prices as high as they are right now I mean this totally ignores how this was a legitimate ancient hygiene practice that worked, but you also ignored that when you referenced it

@punjabipower904

Жыл бұрын

Made in China hardly lasts

China brags about debuting their own Graphics card that performs as well as a 15 year old Nvidia GTX after stealing and reverse engineering Nvidia Gpu's, It's sad.

I find it a little weird that a “developing” country is going around the world and help with other developing countries infrastructure.

Two space telescopes China just launched into orbit and I bet they are aimed at the Earth.

@karmaisntreal

Жыл бұрын

It's same for USA too, difference is they did it years ago

@2hotflavored666

Жыл бұрын

@@karmaisntreal Yep, it's also aimed at the USA.

@m007mm

Жыл бұрын

I'm going outside right now and show them THE FINGER 🖕🏻

@XKS99

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully.

@XKS99

Жыл бұрын

@@2hotflavored666 Good.

Excellent presentation, Winston. We are definitely in agreement about the validity of China's claim to be a developing nation, its rapacious exploitation of natural resources and its claim to international waters,

@arnehofoss9109

Жыл бұрын

From "up there" i would think you can watch what what the US claims are? And what they do about them?

@richardcarroll9864

Жыл бұрын

Taiwan is a part of china get over it.

@redstoneddad3981

Жыл бұрын

@@arnehofoss9109 this makes no sense, can you elaborate?

@ffwast

Жыл бұрын

@@redstoneddad3981 the commenter's display name he's replying to is "good view from up here"

@redstoneddad3981

Жыл бұрын

@@ffwast oh gotcha, ty 😊

Thanks for your work pal ,uk

What is the title of that spatial song? I can't find it.

Speaking of knock-offs, a man in Seattle invented a clever water toy, which was imperfect and difficult to completely enjoy. Some buyers got a kick out of it despite its shortcomings. Soon after, he had to warn potential buyers of the knock-offs being marketed in the U.S. Chinese copies of a hard-to-work water toy made without regard to performance and patent rights.

@animejanai4657

Жыл бұрын

The chinese also watch those online "go fund me" type projects and steal the ideas from them, patent them up, and take over the market with their knock offs of the clever idea that got steamrolled by the chinese patent and copyright pirates.

@King_Flippy_Nips

Жыл бұрын

its a relatively common occurrence for people to discover cheap chinese knockoffs of things they have invented being sold online or in stores in the US and the only thing they can do is contact the US distributor and get them to stop selling them, but another distributor can pick up where the other one left off and sell them as well until they are ordered to stop doing so, its even likely the same people would just register a new company under a different name and do it again, but beyond that china will not enforce anything and its likely that the CCP is involved

@ThePWNDR

Жыл бұрын

Chinese companies couldn’t care less.

Well presented and spot on. I was in China in 1979 when it was opened to the oil companies. I know first hand how they copied and forced oil companies to transfer technolgy.

great episode! naught!

I love your videos so damn much , the content , the accent , the video editing, it’s just great quality content. I appreciate your hard work.

Winston you played off that line about Taiwan and Hainan island just perfectly, well done Sir! That made me smile. Thank you for the great content, very informative and important to illuminate the issue and the danger of the CCP.

@Zimtanbau

Жыл бұрын

The boats and snipers on hainan resort are So annoying

@sinoroman

Жыл бұрын

Communist Party of China

CCP PROPAGANDA. "in the 16th century a Chinese fisherman landed on the moon. The moon belongs to China." I'm willing to bet that this is not really a joke....😔

Love what you do pal keep it up we. Need your, uk

Space program isn't the exclusive domain of rich countries. India has a space program as well. Yet both China and India still have millions in under the poverty line.

@junyin5950

Жыл бұрын

China tops the Global Hunger Index, along with 17 other countries, with almost no one hungry in China. India is one of the countries on the bottom.

Just because there are poors in china doesn't mean they shouldn't invest in space r&d.

makes perfect sense !!! thanks brother for these video

Several examples of rocket programs to put the CCP's achievements into context: The DPRK can't even feed it's people but it has a nuclear ballistic missile. India has apparently been running a successful space program on a fantastically small budget for at least as long as China. Japan ran a successful space program for decades using unguided rockets, not because they could not develop guidance but because they chose to ban non-defensive weapons in their constitution and so chose to develop rockets that could not be turned into ICBMs. That's a space program with a conscience. What a novel idea. So basically a working space program is an achievement but it is not like the discovery of fire: it is not automatically related to human development. It's also not a sign of cultural superiority. Repulsive and respectful, middling and powerful, peaceful and bellicose nations have all been to space.

@davidcanatella4279

Жыл бұрын

China lifted 300 million people out of poverty. All I see in America is our corporate government working on putting 300 million people in poverty

@ootdega

Жыл бұрын

From what I've heard of North Korea's missiles, they are not capable of doing anything useful. They exist simply to threaten Japan with them once a week. North Korea _can_ afford to feed its people. It just doesn't. It instead spends the national budget on ICBMs that can't go anywhere, enormous mega-hotels covered in LED screens that never get finished, disgustingly expensive farming initiatives that fail miserably from horrendous management (but blame it on the farmers, and execute them for not meeting quota when their harvests are all stolen in transit by corrupt officials), and surreal, fantastical utopian cities where absolutely nobody lives. Nearly all food in North Korea is imported. Most family homes have their own vegetable gardens in order to not starve. Modern North Korea makes the Soviet Union look like the Garden of Eden. But at least they don't have dystopian re-education camps and forced sterilization, or turn into a rabid lynch mob when someone acknowledges the existence of South Korea.

@Kelnx

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, the DPRK's rockets tend to explode before really getting anywhere, and it is still very much in doubt that they've managed to miniaturize a nuclear warhead to fit, much less actually work.

@usedtoberyanpoopnownormal8822

Жыл бұрын

Not disagreeing but could you list the 4 other examples?

@iivin4233

Жыл бұрын

@@usedtoberyanpoopnownormal8822 Speaking from a post-WWII context and being incredibly reductive, DPRK: Repulsive Japan: Peaceful India: Middling (economically, for a long time) USA/USSR: Bellicose DPRK: Bellicose CCP: Bellicose EU: ... Respectful?

Certainly we need to be wary of chinese motivations. But speaking from India's experience, the indian space program has been immensely beneficial for Indians. We could finally start broadcast and telephony communications across the entire poorly connected countryside, predict and prepare for weather patterns such as monsoons, cyclones, pollution, monitor and estimate forest cover, soil conditions to aid agriculture. All of this on a shoestring budget of less than a hollywood movie. Ofcourse some of the tech that was pioneered such as rocket engines, materials and guidance electronics could and were used for military purposes too. IMHO, the benefits of a space program by poor developing countries such as India,China far outweigh the potential downsides. This continues to be true for India even when we may not have enough to feed and clothe the population. This is how tech is - it unlocks all kinds of potential lots of good and some not-so-good.

@es68951

Жыл бұрын

Except a CCP space program will never be used for the good of China, only the good of the CCP

@zeist3064

Жыл бұрын

The difference is, China is spending money on costly vanity projects like a manned space station, they're not just sending up unmanned satellites to monitor climate and terrain.

@jonson856

Жыл бұрын

The difference is, China is on a war path. India is not. The good of the people is not the priority of the CCP.

@MasterOfHalo25

Жыл бұрын

@@jonson856 India is on more of a warpath than china. You don't know what you're talking about.

@kukulroukul4698

Жыл бұрын

The difference is... India is honest(as much as honesty is possible) , China is not ! The best thing about India is that india doesnt sell us CRA*Y quality peripherics and gadgets , STEALING our money in a BIG WAY . Very wise about India . Theres also a saying in the romanian culture: ''You attract uppon yourself chain of events/attitudes/and FAITH that mirrors your inner soul '' The problem with China is their SOUL

RETIRED, 79, FREEDOM, USAF, VFW. YOU TALK WITH HEAVY WORDS, LIKE YOUR VIDEOS.

Spot on. 👊

5:35 The question that haunts my head is "Was there some kind of secret part to the mission?"

@WasatchWind

Жыл бұрын

If there was, I can't imagine it will do a great deal to harm us. To really use the Moon for a useful military purpose, you'd need the ability to fire nuclear warheads from the Moon using a railgun. This is something that is far beyond their current capabilities in terms ot payload to the Lunar surface.

@InfiniteMonkeysSA

Жыл бұрын

Of course there was. The US does the same thing all the time, though. Sending up military payloads secretly or alongside civilian ones.

@WasatchWind

Жыл бұрын

@@InfiniteMonkeysSA I wouldn't say _all_ the time. Occasionally there is a secret payload, but because civilians can track it, we know when one is snuck on a normal mission. Then there's stuff like the X-37 spaceplane, where we don't know all the details of its mission, but it's very obviously meant for military purposes.

@Joe-mz6dc

Жыл бұрын

@Wasatch Wind most of the shuttle flights were military.

@MVargic

Жыл бұрын

NASA Lunar Reconaissance orbiter can observe literally any part of the Moon, visible or hidden side, doesnt matter. Additionally, Moon is a dead space rock, exploitation of its resources should be encouraged and welcomed as it can help us to become more independent from Earth's resources and allow us to build space stations and colonies from lunar resources that would be absurdly easier to lift into orbit. If China was able to build an actual lunar colony that could mine and process ores, it would be its greatest historical achievement by a wide margin, and you would not hear about anything else, it would be constant front page news. However, China's current space capabilities are comparable to Soviet space capabilities in the 1970s, if anyone manages to build a Moon base it will be a joint NASA and ESA project with SpaceX reusable superheavy lift rockets.

This "modernization" attempt isn't necessarily a bad thing on the surface. Japan did do this as well.. At one point there were even calls among the Japanese public to replace Japanese (the language) with English as the national language. They were enamored by the huge tech difference between the west and east. To put this in perspective, the samurai were still around only a few generations ago. Like within the past 200 years. Japan saw America swoop in and impose very one-sided trade deals with China, and they took that as a wake up call. Because at the time, Japan looked to China in a similar light as western nations look to ancient Rome or the HRE. Powerful long lasting empires. So to see who they looked up to be brought to it's knees is both a good and bad thing. It led to Japan very very swiftly modernizing it's military, going to war with Russia (and winning). They did a surprise attack on a port, fought the Russians, and took many islands and parts of China and Korea. Then they tried the same trick again, Pearl Harbor... didn't work that time. Point of all this, is that it's not necessarily a bad thing that China wants to modernize, but it's certainly something to be focused on. Lest it get drunk on success and be filled with hubris. Edit: Also want to point out that Japan pulled itself out of it's tech lag on it's own. It wasn't pampered and spoon-fed under the guise of a "developing" nation to catch up and surpass it's neighbors. By the end of WW2, they were semi on par with the west. Much changed afterward, but up til that point, Japan didn't need it's hand held by the rest of the world. I just think the CCP are doing China a disservice by not only accepting these handouts, but practically begging for them and squandering the generosity. It's sly, it's ingenious don't get me wrong... But it's also doomed to fail. They should learn from Japan not to keep using the same old tricks. It'll only lead to a bad outcome.

@chriscutress1702

Жыл бұрын

Japan had learned from what had happened between the US and China. When they signed the trade agreements instead of buying directly from the West they made deals to manufacture the goods under license from the Western companies thus empowering their own population and developing their own technical base to not only copy but to (in certain aspects) surpass the original technologies. That's how they became powerful enough to become a World Power in such a short time. With China they have slowly been regaining their previous World Power position but their economy is in danger of self destructing due to over stimulation without the structure to maintain long term growth. And China is not without rampant political corruption at the highest levels of their system. Keep in mind the long history of China and that the political revolutions historically came from the lower classes when the corruption of the governing powers became intolerable.

@FirstLastOne

Жыл бұрын

Comparing China to Japan is amusing at best. China would need to get rid of the CCP first, FULL STOP. Then China may, in five or so decades, come close to where the Japanese were in 1960. Copying others and stealing their IP and hard work isn't going to make China like Japan. Japan didn't copy, they took something and refined it to the point of perfection. The Japanese aren't perfect especially with their shoganai mentality but they are still at least 100 years ahead of current China. The Japanese government doesn't need to tell its citizens how to behave when they travel abroad as tourists, China does and that's embarrassing to China and civilized Chinese around the world.

@merlinbotha363

Жыл бұрын

China doesn't want to modernize, the CCP wants to appear modern. Massive difference

@12Prophet

Жыл бұрын

@@chriscutress1702 Eloquently put. I know I didn't include a great deal of details with the analogy of Japan, (honestly too much to cover for a short youtube comment) At least we can be sure that the future is likely going to get interesting. Here's to hoping mistakes will be learned this go around.

@hx3060

Жыл бұрын

So much nonsense, short to respond. Japan is not a "successful" country, as a little brother of the US, it lacks full autonomy economically, militarily and politically. In fact, the JPN economy was brought down by US in the 1990s, as the "Plaza Agreement" was signed before. And now Japan's economy... as an export country, Japan even has a trade deficit now, which is the biggest tragedy for it. Japan will have a lower sense of existence in the world in the future, its highlight moment is in the second half of the 20th century~

Waiting to see Ali express painted on China's rockets

Some good humor mate I like that. 👍

The Captian of my second ship was damn good. He forbade using GPS for plotting course, general navigation. We had to do it old school, quickly and accurately. He did allow us to use GPS but only as a check to our work.

@davidoneill7554

9 ай бұрын

That rules. He knows that if GPS ever fails for any reason (during war or peace time), the people who know how to navigate with maps and compasses will rule the seas (and the land?).

I counter argue that a developing country should focus on their poor people rather than their space system. Because it stops any developing country from any space industry. Because even developed nations have poor people just like developing nations.

@carlossouzaamorim

Жыл бұрын

I'm from Brazil and really mad about the disregard for our space program. Having to rely on other nations to launch our satellites is a high risk for soberany.

It's more correct to say "the back side of the moon" than "the dark side of the moon". The back side is lit as often as the side facing us

@apolloskyfacer5842

Жыл бұрын

Far side is better still.

ALL business dealings I have ever endured with Chinese people have ALWAYS ended badly,!

@Shadowwalker1717

Жыл бұрын

Why for the most time?

@GasPipeJimmy

Жыл бұрын

@@Shadowwalker1717 I’m answering for only myself, but my experience has been that they are not competent in the projects they join in upon, they are pathological liars and are wildly unprepared (incompetence again) combined with lying about their actual experience and capabilities. They will also lie about being Taiwanese, or “being from” Taiwan. Utterly untrustworthy in every way imaginable, as well as delivering an inferior product that doesn’t meet the agreed upon specifications.

In my opinion, a country with nuclear weapons should not be able to get aid due to being a developing country. It sooner got nukes than developed its economy? Tough!

Messing with the moon means messing with the tides and the orbit of the earth, which means global extinction.

Such a hate for a country you once loved, so bitter.

Fun fact: The USA had nuclear powered carriers and subs before China even tested a simple nuclear bomb.

I was legit disappointed China didn't put a giant "Made in China" sticker on the moon with their moon landing program.

@animejanai4657

Жыл бұрын

They put in a claim for land and fishing rights to the arctic. Currently, the arctic land belongs to countries that border the geographic (not magnetic) north pole such as Russia, Norway, Canada, USA, Denmark/Greenland, etc. But China claims it's country is near the north pole and therefore has the right to claim land there even though it is clear which countries' borders go right up to the north pole.

@vitocorleone8323

Жыл бұрын

Yeah well I'm more concerned at them threatening to show us Chinese "manners" than their space intentions. 13:11

Thanks for the truth...! Shine the bright light...!

The LRO or Lunar reconnaissance orbiter and a few other satellites orbit the moon and there is technically no “Dark Side” of the moon as most parts of it get sunlight at varying times. The “Dark” more refers to the tidally locked nature of the moons orbit that keeps one side in “perpetual darkness” from Earth’s view and the “Dark Side” now more refers to the fact that communication can be blocked due to the moons orbit around the Earth but, not actual darkness from a lack of light.

I've always thought Taiko simply means "big brother" in Cantonese. Maybe it was intended as they want to establish themselves as a "big brother" of the world.

@greebj

Жыл бұрын

FTFY: Not "a". THE Big Brother of the world.

Y'know it says a lot, a LOT, when American astronauts and space technicians would rather work with the Russians more than you. The ISS is like the only place where those two countries can get along.

@artgoddess80

Жыл бұрын

Just announced yesterday - Russia says it will withdraw from the International Space Station (ISS) after 2024 and build its own station instead.

@StudioNama

Жыл бұрын

@@artgoddess80 yeah I'm aware my statement is now past-tense, but that's still a solid 30 years between the fall of the USSR and now, so... it's the thought that counts?

@driftingdruid

Жыл бұрын

@@StudioNama they might come back to the ISS either when Putin realizes he's being manipulated by CCP into fighting a war of attrition _(CCP pitting its perceived foreign enemies against each other while feigning alliance to one of them, so they don't have to fight all of them at once)_ , or when the dictatorship in Russia ends

@alqaeda7040

Жыл бұрын

NASA should ask SpaceX to construct new ISS

Love your show .. Australia is working with the USA on many sciectific and military projects. NASA and the United States Airforce are working hand in hand with Australia on Hypersonic weapons. Thank you Australia for all your support, we , the free world need you.

Winston - there is no "dark" side of the moon (that's a Pink Floyd album name). There is a 'far' side - it gets plenty of sun

Apparently the dark side of the moon would be several times harder to colonize than the light side because of unstable ionization that would make the dust almost permanently stick to your equipment and ruining it over time. Also the static charge is much higher and so you would never know when something would cause a deadly shock. I don’t know why exactly but I know the channel ‘Astrum’ talked about it. So honestly if they manage to colonize the dark side, part of once to say they honestly deserve to keep it bc that would be the greatest scientific achievement in a very long time

@user-eq9xs5fz9u

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that the dark side of the moon get hit by meteorite every second, microscopic to macroscopic

@theorangeheadedfella

Жыл бұрын

@@user-eq9xs5fz9u wouldnt all the moon be getting hit

@sethydeathy

Жыл бұрын

on top of keeping people on the moon would be a logistic nightmare.

@tomtricks6838

Жыл бұрын

kind of ironic how china want the dark side and the west want the light u know what i mean lol

@theInsaneRodent

Жыл бұрын

You probably mean the far side of the moon, not the dark side. There is no dark side of the moon. The days on the moon may be 28 earth days long or something, but it does rotate slowly. It does always have the same side towards the earth, so there is a far side that we can't see, but that side gets just as much light as any other part of the moon.

i had no idea china was receiving foreign aid, that's absolutely insane!

@margaretclarke3643

Жыл бұрын

So WHY are they receiving foreign aid? AND do they give an account of their spending of it?

"Kinetic Kill Vehicle's" so basiclly they're ramming other satellites.

The 6 Gen, Bomber Race, Yesterday the US Military just Showed the B21 bomber!

@kanlu5199

Жыл бұрын

China builds, USA bombs

A lot of that argument could apply to India as well. It gets bailed out with money yet has a space program whilst people starve

@WasatchWind

Жыл бұрын

I am not well versed in the economics of ISRO, but with the US at least, I think the majority of Americans grossly overestimate the cost of the space program (approx $30 in taxes a year) and vastly underestimate the return that comes to the public in technological development and valuable scientific research (such as cancer research on the ISS.) ISRO appears to be making efforts to privatize more of their spaceflight activities, which as the US will likely decrease costs. I think all spaceflight programs could do much to trim fat in running more efficiently, but I think that ISRO should not be cut when there are in all probability a great many places of less useful spending in their government.

@bruhaspati560

Жыл бұрын

Do you even know tha annual budget of ISRO?

@appurav7156

Жыл бұрын

atleast look at budget before commenting isro has funding of 1.8 billion whereas nasa has 20b ,china has 8b budget.. india dont have food shoratge or something like that india produce enough food its just that it is not properly channelised

@dinil5566

Жыл бұрын

Just because you are not Jeff bezos, doesn't mean you can't have nice food everyday. We don't want our brilliant people to move abroad and join NASA. There are still poverty in USA but NASA still sends rockets. I don't really get the logic when a 3rd word country tries to develop their technology, people like you says we need to invest that money to solve poverty when except a few northern European countries and very few rich middle eastern countries every other countries out there still suffering from it.

@timothyblazer1749

Жыл бұрын

India's space program is the cheapest of its type in the world. And it's been scaled back recently because of the very concerns you're raising. They are amazing at getting payloads into orbit on a shoestring budget. They are breaking new ground in the use of solid rocket technology. China, on the other hand, doesn't care at all about starving people to fund it's projects. It's projects are never contributory to the world. And they universally have a hostile intent towards the international community. So no, they aren't even in the same room. India's program is amazing. China's is complete BS.