First intro to a hawk I’ve seen that’s intelligent. Everyone is trying to be funny and not give the information. Thank you

I've been looking into the thunder because the rotaries I use now only take traditional needles, and I want to move to a carterage system. so this helped greatly in my decision.

hahaha, lold at "fisher price my first tattoo machine". I've been tattooing a year and a half full time man, and since then you've been the best mentor iv'e had.. really appreciate your generosity when it comes to sharing your knowledge. One day we will cross paths at a convention or something, and i'll thank you in person man. Cheers lad

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thanks for the kind words. You're the first one to notice the Fisher Price reference, or comment on it at least.

Shout out from Nelson BC.... I just bought the pen, the 1st thing I noticed was the " no click " adjustment... Kinda throws me off. I haven't used the pen as of yet, it just arrived yesterday. So ya I'm glad you pointed that out, kick in my ass a little bit that I didn't catch your video before ordering this one...? Thanks for all the tips and of course your time and efforts to give away your skills and knowledge to folks like me... Greatly appreciated

I've got the exact same set up..😂 but I tend to use my thunder for lining.. more stable etc.. but need it improve.. the pen think am gonna use for shading more.. thanks for these tips... still learning 3 half yrs.. in...

I've used both and love them. a tip that might with the pen squeaking, I put a drop of germ x on the threads. it seems to lube it up enough to rid of the noise but not so much that it moves on its own.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Ill try that

Have you tried out the Spektra Xion? Solves that click problem and has variable give. Great machine!

Thank you for breaking it down, down to pulling lines, shading and scooting your hand back as if you were painting. Great technical advice as well. I did a proper apprenticeship in a family shop, loyal to the coil and exploring mediums as an artist who PERMANENTLY effects a clients experience and finished product, is just a nono. I have been waiting for a video like this, as opposed to a workshop at a convention half a world away. Aloha H

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I'm glad the video helped out.

Dude honestly loved your video!! I´m am looking to do etching line style tattoo. I was wondering which machine you would personally prefer for that style? Any advice is much appreciated! thanks!

I would Imagine for work in the neck area that the hawk pen would work wonders. Not so harsh on the ears and more work space without the body of the machine blocked by the persons face just more free range.

you can back your hand up on the Cheyenne thunder as well, just turn your grip upside down so the motor points up. Still a little awkward but you can get it like that. Cool thing about cartridges is how you can rotate them to suit your hand

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

I suppose your'e right. Never thought to try it. Thanks

The thunder with an Inkjecta weighted sleeve over the Cheyenne grip is unbeatable!

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Haven't tried that. Thanks

first machine was the hawk which was 2.5mm stroke, cheyenne spirit 3mm stroke, cheyenne thunder 4mm stroke and now the pen which is 3.5mm stroke making it the inbetween version of the spirit the 2nd machine and the thunder 3rd version. it has something similar to the thunder motor but to counter the strength of hit as most critique said it was too strong, the half mm stroke difference makes the machine less fierce but the extra half stroke higher than the spirit which got negative feedback for lining because of snagging. this is why they call it their all arounder and have the slogan be an artist because they figured out how to counter the negativity of their other machines and now have the pen as their flag ship product.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Nathan!

@eduki

7 жыл бұрын

Nathan Hamilton Spirit is 2,5 mm stroke

@nathanhamilton3080

7 жыл бұрын

Not it isn't, look it up

@eduki

7 жыл бұрын

Nathan Hamilton better if you go to check the tech data of the cheyenne spirit, it is 2,5 mm stroke, that's because it's so good for B/G. Your other info is correct.

@trunks4357

6 жыл бұрын

spirit 2.5 mm, thunder 4mm and pen 3.5mm. By the way!

Great vid. I like your approach!

@FiresideTattooNetwork

6 жыл бұрын

sarahdawn3 thanks a lot!

I hated the hawk pen because I am so used to the balance of the 90 degree orientation of the motor to the tube that I sold it to another artist. It's probably because 10 years of running coils tuned me in to that feel. This orientation also lets me know where the front and back of the needle is. I'm so used to it, that I don't think about it and all of my movements are instinctive. I had to think about it too much with the pen..... good review, and the one I had squeaked too by the way...

thank you for your sharing! I'm just hesitate between this two !

jumped on the cartridge bandwagon, started with the inkjecta flite v2, then bought the thunder and then the pen sometime after that,,,,, used em all for a good amount of time and between the three i still prefer the Thunder It has the least vibration of the three and is just my fav

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

I'm still a fan of the thunder as well. Thanks for the feedback

thanks. i buy the spirit. i like it. and im sure they work pretty much same.just that they feel lil diferent on the hand. thanks for making this video you make lot sence . and reat work bro. keep it up

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

Thunder (v1) and Hawk Pen (v1) are virtually same machines. Have same stroke of 3.5mm and operates on similar frequency - lowest 60 - 70 Hz and highest 165 - 170 Hz. The newest Thunder have more power and bigger stroke which is 4mm now than previous version - one shown in the video - new drive and the tweaked eccentric tappet. So, I bet that it may be some difference now between newest Hawk Pen and newest Thunder, but not so much between older versions. Also Spirit is not a predecessor of Thunder but a different machine. Usually used for black and grey and color shading only, with 2.5mm stroke. The most technologically advanced Cheyenne machine is now SolNova with brushless motor and very low frequency operation - from 25 Hz. Motor power: 2.5 W : 4 W : 3 W (Spirit/Thunder : Pen : SolNova)

@hawk_cheyenne_usrepair

5 жыл бұрын

Łukasz D.P.G.Channel This is misinformation, the Thunder does have a 4mm stroke, it always has and has never had 3.5mm stroke.

You are very skilled man .I love the craft ...!!!!!!

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

awesome review. im a oil painter and to be able to have that similar feel during a tattoo is pretty sweet!

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It was something I didn't expect when I bought the machine but I like being able to move back on the grip

Agree with the squeaky bits. I’ve since moved onto the Xion. Have you tried that?

the squeak is most likely the O rings. you can always use a small amount of vasileane.

Hi, may I ask what voltage do you set your thunder for various tasks? Packing, lining, shading..thanks for the video.

Nice review bro... I'm going to be getting all new school gear soon but don't want to just buy one and hate it.. my lines are pretty good I get compliments on them all the time and I have to work on my shading more than anything.. will this cheyenne pen make my lines crappy cause I sure don't want that.. cheers any help would be great...

Yep I bought a pen at Venetian too:-) love the pen but hate the price of the cartridges, I put a little lube on the rubber under the grip, stopped squeaking and hasn't started again. Thanks for the vid

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice. I'll lube the o rings up and see if that helps

I've never lube the O-ring. It might squeak if I turned it too fast, new, but never while I'm adjusting depth. It doesn't make sense to me to lube something that's purpose is friction. To each their own. If it works for ya, it works for ya. Dig the vids!

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I agree. The squeak is worse if you turn it fast.

@Phoenixrising5

7 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. That first o ring is for friction so that your needle depth doesn't move around on you. I have the pen and love it

Hey ! Great info. I would like to buy cheyenne thunder, and i really need your oppinion on the lining . Is it good for lining ? Thank you !!

I'm switching from my Paco Rollins coil machines to the Cheyenne Hawk Thunder I'm inquiring on whether it's neccessarry to buy the Cheyenne power supply or if you have any other recommendations for power supplies. Thanks! (Currently Using Critical Atom)

thank you man, you really help me, Im going to buy thunder...

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching

I have been using the Helios rotary pen since March. No squeak on that machine and it is so much smaller than the Cheyenne pen. You need to try the Helios, it has the numbers on the dial so you know exactly what depth you have your needles at. Takes all cartridges but not comparable with the Cheyenne cartridges, for whatever reason. Try one out. I went from Neotats Vivaces ( which I still use and love) so the difference was like night and day.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Cool. Thanks. I'll take a look at it

Hi Nathan can you please confirm if there’s need to autoclave Cheyenne thunder grip? I cover my grip with cohesive wrap but I’m not sure if this is enough....pls reply thanks in anticipation

Jake please help me out.look I buyer thunder and I have cheap power supply and when ii put needle I need like 8 + to make it run. do you think the power supply no good? or machine still have to star at 5v.? what should I do .all I think is I should buy the power supply for it

advice to counter the whole grip rotating problem. Use a grip cover. i use a true grip cover and the pressure will hold it in place perfectly. Also the squeak sound, it says in the manual about using a lil lubrication like vaseline, but warn that it will make it easier to rotate which may be undesirable

@wirelesstv3906

7 жыл бұрын

Great work Nath, cheers big ears

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nathan. I agree on avoiding the lubrication. Don't want that thing spinning around while I'm working

And what do you think about the Nova

please review more machines, I'm interested on the cheyenne spirit and the equaliser pen machine

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I'll see what I can do. I don't have access to that many machines and I doubt the manufacturers want to start mailing them out to me for reviews. I'll do my best though.

Is it compulsory to use the cheyenne power supply? With the pen. Like cant we use a critical atom or something

the pen has a 4w motor and 3.5mm stroke . where the thunder is a 4mm stroke with a 2w motor . I've been debating whether to move to the pen from the thunder but unsure with how much they cost . I had a play with a pen at a convention and I also found the grip not clicking not to be as nice as the thunder . When it clicks you feel like it's in place .

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

I agree about the click although, after using it for the last 6 months, I can say that it really hasn't been an issue. Thanks

@alphaseraphin

7 жыл бұрын

i was considering getting one and not using the hawk but so many people say its not worth it that have the hawk already , after using it for 6 months do you find it to be a worthwhile investment ?

@6wrap

2 жыл бұрын

I like that you mention difference in the Watts on the machines!! This is the info I have been looking for. More people should be talking about the watts or the amps in the motor, than the voltage!! Thanks for the info!!

I wonder why some hawk thunder motors have the end bit where you plug it in much different... like a bit longer

@denanewell3585

4 жыл бұрын

Edzis2k9 yea mine was like his I thought I got ripped off

@swaggastupid3100

4 жыл бұрын

Cheyenne came out with a upgraded version better motor and a cover over the jack input that’s why

As far as wrapping the pen is concerned there is a youtube video out for that, the first grommet under the grip is for holding the clipcord sleeve, and I guess cheyenne sells finger condoms with holes for the cartridge you can buy to slide over the grip and tape to the clipcord sleeve. The second grommet is what keeps the grip from moving out of adjustment while you tattoo, so while the squeak is annoying, I wouldn't want to lube that personally, not a fan of my needle depth changing while I tattoo. Personally I bag the whole machine and add a grip over the bag, as I prefer a larger grip, and cut a hole for the cartridge.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'll take a look at that video and maybe link to it so people can see what they recommend.

Nice joe sorren art on the backgroubd btw. :)

When I received mine Cheyenne Pen I had the same problem so I put a little bit of lube in the threads and never had the squeaking sound ever since

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have used the Pen for over a year now and it never once squeaked :o

Hey, the spirit is not version before thunder, thunder is for lining, color packing, and spirit is softer, for shading. Hawk pen is allrounder machine but it's not so strong as thunder for packing. The squeeking is not normal, you have 2y warranty, mine broke after half of year of efficient using, and repair is free is you don't use lubricants and oils! Otherways you pay for repair...

Hi after 1 year what opinion you have, Thunder or Pen ?

Hi, guys! Would you please say few words about cross contamination prevention with the whole cartridge machines! I really want to go cheyenne, but simply can't find a way to truly prevent a cross contamination. Disposable tubes are the best so far for me, but cartridges... I don't know.

I've heard that Thunder is good for lining but not good at shading and filling, is that right? If it's true, it will be very disappointing for me cause i wanna buy Thunder.

cheyenne pen is my main machine that am using and is pretty good especially at shading but the only problem i have with this machine is sometimes its rolling by its self and is changing the needle depth while am tattooing. that's very annoying and its making my job much difficult. maybe is only mine that has that prob i don't know. o and by the way my chayenne pen doesn't make that noise when is rolling.

@saemkim519

5 жыл бұрын

when you shade what voltage are do you have it set on and are you doing a single needle ?

What would you recommend for a beginner? Or should I just start on a regular coil? cheers for the vid! - ches

@omarperez3929

4 жыл бұрын

Id say run a bishop rotary v6 with a ergo click grip from darklab.

great review

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot.

How do you clean the pen machine?

i have an ez tattoo pen which is almost exactly like the cheyenne hawk.. how do you wrap it for contamination purposes..

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

We get this question a lot and I would like to talk to Cheyenne about their recommendations. I wrap it to the edge of the grip and clean the edge and interior with matacide. I try not to spray it directly on the machine as I don't want it in contact with the motor.

@bigsabs903

8 жыл бұрын

+Fireside Tats I was going to ask this as well. I know that even in the area where I live the health board says that this is a acceptable standard in place of autoclaving it. Obviously Matacide or Cavicide is used on everything that can't be autoclaved. This would be a interesting topic for a video.

A little bit of silicone lubricant will fix the squeak and not damage the o-rings.

hi... i just bough a cheyenne thunder + cheyenne power supply and i want to ask u something!! what`s the proper voltage for shading and colouring for that cheyenne ? i watched your video and you sayed that you are using it for probably 3 years. i apreciate if u can help me with that... thx alot and keep up the good work

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

I run it around 6.5-7v for most everything but that's just my preference. I know artists that run it over 10v. I would just suggest experimenting until you find a voltage that works with the way you move your hand

U try the inkjeta yet,? Would u rather these or inkjeta

Is the pen safe to use as it isn't autoclavable ?

thank you man! love the comment! i ve got a pretty good idea of the machines now👌

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Awesome. THanks

thanks i use coils and have been thinking of getting the pen but now i think i will just get the thunder:)

@badfish1111

8 жыл бұрын

Get an Inkjecta Flite instead. The thunder has a set stroke and no give. The Flite has 4 stroke options and adjustable give from no give to softer than soft. Not saying the thunder isn't a great machine but it's not very versatile. Get a Flite with the Cheyenne adjustable grip and you'll be selling your coil machines in a month.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Never tried the Flite but sounds like a compelling argument. Thanks

that it clicks for the dept or not is a personal preference, and that it makes that cheap sound when you change your dept has my cheyenne pen to ^^ maybe it goes away when you have used it more often ? :)

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Maybe so.

Awesome review mate as usual. Did you ever change the stay up spring of cheyenne pen yet? because there are a lot of reports that the stay up spring gets broken easily

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have had no issues at all with the pen yet. Haven't had to replace anything

@aleymoreno7318

7 жыл бұрын

keith Hancock really appreciate it 👍

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. I haven't had any issues with the pen yet

Bro which one is the best thunder or pen

This was a very Helpful review. Ive seen some tattoo artist use the same grip of a cheyenne hawkpen on different clients. They just wipe down the grip with isopropyl and cover it with a plastic barrier. Does it pay to have an autoclave when owning a hawkpen ? Im looking at buying a hawkpen as im a coil machine person that uses disposable grips.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. I simply secure the plastic barrier with a good bit of coban around the grip. Between tattoos, I remove the grip from the machine and clean with matacide. I feel like it is as effective as every other surface i clean at my station. Thanks again

@Inkbyjeremy

7 жыл бұрын

Fireside Tattoo Network so you don't have to autoclave the pens grip just cover it good and clean it with maldicide?

nice review man! thanks. but... I was looking for a review on the cheyenne hawk spirit vs thunder, lol. because I use a spirit... maybe a fellow subscriber/youtuber who has used both mchines could tell me the difference? I m curious. thanks for the episode anyway! I like watching your videos!

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

THanks a lot. I haven't used the spirit but I'm sure someone can offer some insight.

Yeah you can oil the pen. Btw the grip of the thunder will lose the click effect with the years..

Hi. Is it cheyenne craft cartridge?

I love my STYLUS H but the motor is wearin out.. any long term users of the pen have any opinions on motor life?

@klcwradiolakecityseattle3836

8 жыл бұрын

the pen style rotary is so nice...I felt like I was cheating the first few times..I said the exact same thing..."its like tattooin with a sharpie!"

Thank's man!

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Thanks for watching

I assume you need to autoclave those grips.... do they make disposable style grips?

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

They are autoclavable but I don't autoclave them. I wrap them with a machine sleeve and cover that with coban. This still could leave the inside of the grip where the cartridge seats open to possible contamination so I disassemble and use matacide wipes for the inside. This seems to be the common practice from what I see of other artists using these machines. I think FK irons is making disposables but I don't know if they fit the cheyenne. Thanks for watching

i have 2 of those and they don't squeak at all

i have an ez tattoo pen which is almost exactly like the cheyenne pen.. how do you wrap it for contamination purposes..

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

see answer above

haha . glad you figured it out

Are you still using the pen

fireside ......I have a question, when you're packing color do you have to go back and do touch ups because i always have spots that don't take and I stop because I worry about trauma. Is that the norm to do touch ups?

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

I rarely need to touch up color but I think it comes with the experience of doing it over and over. Did you see the last episode where we covered getting solid blends of color?

@jeremyshuflat268

8 жыл бұрын

Yes I have watched every one now,Ill just keep trying. I just worry about over working it ,yellow is my biggest struggle.

Fuckin sick channel man I subbed. One question? Are these cheyenne hardhat ting enough for traditional work?

@ivelolra9037

7 жыл бұрын

The pen specifically. Although you said they hit the same.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. I personally don't work in a very traditional approach but I feel like they would both work fine. I sometimes use loose round shaders running at a slightly higher voltage than normal and get very solid, bold lines. Thanks again for watching

@patrickdurka6188

7 жыл бұрын

IVEL & OLRA the pen is really great for traditional tattoos in my opinion because it is really easy and nice to make solid and fluid lines, doesnt matter if you want to use 1,3,5,7 or a 9 rl it is all working great. and for colour packing there is nothing that will pack in the colour so birght and fast like the hawk pen, on low voltage like 8,5-9,5 and causing really low skin trauma. i really love it for neo traditional and traditional, its good for every style i think, but since i switched to hawk pen from bci coil machines my lines are more constant, i can work much faster and my colorwork is unbelievable bright and looks fantastic, love the machine. but the proton equaliser (kawdron pen) should do the job same for less money, havent tested it yet but only heard good things and seed some really nice traditional and black grey tattoos done with the kwadron pen

I just ordered the pen but i have a swashdrive spinner ps, do you think ill need the start up cable?

@turnrock

8 жыл бұрын

Just gonna answer my own question, nope i dont need it. its been working fine without the start up /booster cable.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Good. Glad you were able to answer it because I had no idea!

thanks man

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I've never heard pen squeak like that. I wonder if it's the O ring on the inside?

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Yep. That's what is was

@MirceaTattoo

7 жыл бұрын

grease a little bit with vaseline that 2 o rings and and it will not squeak any more ;)

@skullboyy

6 жыл бұрын

Subversion Films my coworker has the pen and It squeaks.

my chihuahua just freaked out when the machine squeeked...

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Hilarious!

@isoexe

8 жыл бұрын

lol

I have the Thunder and was told that the pen hits softer. So you feel no difference in that .5 mm stroke? Thanks for the review.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

I have been told the same thing. I personally don't feel much, if any, difference. However, It has been 8 months or so since I've used the Thunder. I should probably break it back out to see if I can tell any difference before I make that claim.

@HovaguimianMichael

7 жыл бұрын

Tattoo Improvement thanks bud. If u do please let me know. Also I found ur channel yesterday and u r a very great teacher and the content on ur channel is very practical and applicable. Thanks for sharing.

hey man, i have the thunder and its spits a lot even at a slower speed, any way to stop that?

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Does it happen a lot? I would think that would be more of a cartridge issue than a machine issue but if it is happening with all cartridges, I would contact Cheyenne. Maybe the bar is bent and causing the cartridge to malfunction? I don't know

Nice video ...can you please confirm if it's necessary to buy Cheyenne power supply? I'm planning to buy thunder but not sure how worth it's to invest in Cheyenne power supply. Can you please advice ??

@jakemeeks1415

7 жыл бұрын

Sushil Gorkhe thanks. You don't have to use the cheyenne power supply but if you use another brand of power supply you'll need their power block adapter (I forget the actual name). I think it costs around $30-40.

@thunderbird3353

6 жыл бұрын

Jake Meeks thanks for your reply ....after reading the customer complaints about Cheyenne thunder hawk on their page, I've bought the cheyyene power supply. Hopefully, I have a great experience with this new machine. I'm a beginner and it's my first tattoo machine.

put some vaseline on that pen, it works for my equaliser pen too..., it makes the same sound :))

do you have a suggestion for purchasing a power supply with the pen. I heard the booster can work on any power supply, but I wasn't sure what was recommended to go with it.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Cheyenne recommends their own supply but I use the booster with my Eikon and have had no issues. I know several people who use it with Critical supplies as well

did your pen ever stop working bro. problems with the spring

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

I haven't had any issues with the pen. Good luck though

hi i got the pen and i use 11.7 for out line is that ok ?

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Whatever voltage works for you to get good results is fine. I know people that run the pen around 12-13v and make nice tattoos. THanks for watching!

will any needle cartridges fit into the pen

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. Thanks for watching

Maybe your thunder is wore out making it hit as soft as the pen

what do you think about coil machines?

thanks you save me $600 was thinking of getting the pen but i already have the thunder.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

No problem. I have grown to like the pen quite a bit over the last month or so since I shot the video. But it's really not that big of a change from the thunder

@Sam-sp7qh

8 жыл бұрын

+Fireside Tats thanks. hey do you think the thunder can do thick traditional lines? i line with coils im afraid of lining with a rotary.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

7 жыл бұрын

I think it would pull thick lines pretty well. I don't typically work with large single pass lines but I think it would do the job

A lot of my friends use the pen and there's dies not squeek. I would contact the company and let them know.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

A little lubricant does the trick. Thanks

put a little vaseline between the grip to take away the peeping

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I've never had a squeaking problem

just lube it up ! Squeaky solved 👍 did it to mine. Great machine hands down

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks

What voltage are you running your pen? Blackngrey / color?

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

I'm normally between 6.5-7v. I know people who run them at 12 or higher

There are pen machines that perform the same function for far less than $600. I'm sure you knew that, but I prefer the less expensive machines that do the same thing and do it well.

@adrianidso3852

7 жыл бұрын

Steve Gray what are they called and where can I find

@sidscifi

7 жыл бұрын

Adrian Idso Yilong Hybrid Pens. and Amazon.

@joelreynoso4572

7 жыл бұрын

Adrian Idso I just bought the Papa Pen off the Nuclear supply truck for $434.78..in my opinoion it hits just a lil softer n smoother than the Cheyenne.

@vadims331

5 жыл бұрын

@@sidscifi shit

@sidscifi

5 жыл бұрын

@@vadims331 I agree there are some that are shit. But there are some nice ones too.

For the "squiking" just spray some gun lubricant every once in a while! It works for me

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'll do that.

Fk irons xion. Just got it they fixed everything you didnt like. I'm never looking back

I just feel like all cheyenne products are way over priced.

@FiresideTattooNetwork

8 жыл бұрын

They are. And all the proprietary stuff like the cord and power block doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Thanks

@gfla78

7 жыл бұрын

they are germans.. not chinese .. :) expensive workers.

@jasonkendrick567

6 жыл бұрын

you can't buy Jordan's at Wal-mart. They last and are great machines

Jajajjaaja

Embarrassing.