Pretty darn good considering the tires it was on.

@peterjordansonthe2nd731

6 ай бұрын

Indeed - they could have achieved a much better lap time with more suited tires; that being said, they were fair in regards to mentioning weather conditions and the like

Great lap time! Can't wait to see you lap the C8 Z06. That would be something else.

Compared to U.S. spec you are down 20 hp. and the sound seems more muted. I believe it is the European mandated particulate filter to blame. Still, fine performance and looks at a price no one else can touch.

@MagikkMaan

Жыл бұрын

Well it´s the same for every other timed car so it´s irrelevant right?

@PSUK997

Жыл бұрын

I think the Brits and Yanks measure their horsepowers different.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

​@@PSUK997 no, in the United States all of our domestic manufacturers have to get their engines SAE rated, while other countries can just go based on claimed horsepower, such as Porsche, McLaren, and BMW. BMW insisted the M5 CS made 617hp yet the dyno shows over 650 horsepower to its wheels on dynojet. The Porsche 911 Turbo S makes closer to 700whp and the McLaren 720S makes 700whp

@josephbargo5024

Жыл бұрын

@@saltyfloridaman7163’m pretty sure the SAE certification you’re talking about is a voluntary standard. The US manufacturers could easily underrate their cars like the Germans and in the limited data I’ve seen US manufacturers normally underrate crank hp by about 8%. German cars typically are 15-20% underrated at the crank. Also fyi there is a metric hp (ps in German) and an imperial hp.

@ahemgee9542

Жыл бұрын

​@@PSUK997the Euro car is down 20 hp due to OPFs

I loved the new in-car footage for the hot lap. Need to do this for the other laps now.

To steve : this car looks like an american fighter jet and i like that ! Great looking car.

Z06 on Cup 2R tires would properly throw down the bang for your buck gauntlet.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

It would likely set the lap record there

I will be excited to see numbers from the Z06.

@gazman9468

Жыл бұрын

The Z06 is genuinely a bargain 458 Speciale. They've done an amazing job on it.

@BleedForTheWorld

Жыл бұрын

@@gazman9468 I think anyone that can afford a new Z06 is able to afford a 458. Describing these cars in the present day is a miscategorization IMO.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

​@Gazman it's much faster than the Speciale on the track. It got within 1 second of the McLaren 765LT and Mercedes AMG GT Black Series at VIR and the driver admitted he could do better if he hadn't gotten fatigued

@danieldickerson4838

Жыл бұрын

@@saltyfloridaman7163 Yeah, and put a GM engineer who knows the car more intimately behind the wheel, and you could likely squeeze out an even faster time still. For the Z06, an N/A super car to be in the top 5 fastest cars tested at VIR though is pretty spectacular.

@chbrules

Жыл бұрын

@@BleedForTheWorld lolwut? The 458 used will be at least twice the price

Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires and some warm asphalt would get to that McLarens time, don'tcha think..?

what is it with brits bagging on the c8 in weird non-specific ways "it looks like a my-first-supercar" "I wish it looked just a little less contrived" c8 looks great, come on

@darren4747

Жыл бұрын

Each to their own but to me it is an ok looking car. If I was being harsh - from some angles it looks like a constipated transformer. That said I considered putting in an order

Yay! Steve!! I've always had a soft spot for the Corvette. I drove a few C4s and C5s and loved them. Not for the build quality (don't ask), not for the sophistication (Better than you think with a hydroformed chassis on C5 and that transverse leaf spring isn't as bad as you think), but for the way it made me feel when driving them. I love them.

@homestyle2000

Жыл бұрын

There's something... accessible about a Corvettes performance, I've been lucky enough to have driven a few C8s now and i can confirm that despite the far more refined interior and overall quality, that down to earth, roll up your sleeves fun is still there. It doesnt feel delicate or overly techy, its just a big V8 with its smooth power delivery, the road and you, melting together.

The C8 owners manual provides numbers for track alignment. Was that adjustment made for this hot lap?

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

No, you can tell by the wheels, they were straight up

Worth mentioning with the times, that if you put it on a Cup 2 instead of a 4s you'd likely pick up another half second at least.

@sephiros9883

Жыл бұрын

at a bare minimum - on 1.15min I reckon Steve could bring it to high 1:14's if he had a bit of a tidier lap and cup 2s

@supraJZA80s

Жыл бұрын

Cup 2's would save a second and a bit.

@lovelehstuff

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't come on cup 2s no sport cars do

@gazman9468

Жыл бұрын

@@lovelehstuff GT3 does. Exige Cup as well.

@lovelehstuff

Жыл бұрын

@@gazman9468 exige cup is not in production anymore and I think the gt3 is a SuperSports car and it's price of 130k pounds reflects that

That's a fine benchmark for the BASE model, now time to see Z06 performance which will require 100% concentration to maximize its potential. Most owners can never reach this level.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

At VIR Lightning Lap, it's driver got fatigued and couldn't wring out the Z06 completely yet it still got within 1 second of the McLaren 765LT. It also got the naturally aspirated lap record there

@johnmackay5288

Жыл бұрын

..fortunately Steve is no ordinary driver, can’t wait to see his lap in the Z06.

Nice lap Steve and nice review! Quite the bang for buck as usual with a Corvette. I trust your comments more than anyone on earth. Cannot wait for you to get behind the wheel of a Z06!

Steve is one of the greats! Love the over-the-shoulder view! 👍

Agree on the looks, which to my eye are trying a bit to hard to appeal to a younger demographic, but great lap time on PS4Ss

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

GM knows their baby boomer market (who normally buys vettes) is about to head for the big adios.. so, naturally, they pivot

@jafooli

Жыл бұрын

USA just suck at exotic car design

Tycan and 991.1 Turbo performance below 3 digit$. Well done GM. I never imagined.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

GM also did this on their first try. GM has always been a world leader in chassis and suspension development. It shows on the C8 Corvette, Camaro ZL1 and the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing as well

@sidefx996

Жыл бұрын

Corvettes have been doing this sort of thing for over 6 decades, where have you been?

@yurimbarbosa0

Жыл бұрын

@@sidefx996 Maybe you thought about straight line. I mean around circuit.

@sidefx996

Жыл бұрын

@@yurimbarbosa0 I'll ask you again where have you been? Get your car education from someplace other than Top Gear and maybe try do some reading. Look up "Corvette Racing" some time. Corvettes have been world class handling cars and have been winning "around circuit" for 60 years.

@lorddoosworth8175

Жыл бұрын

@@yurimbarbosa0 he means around a circuit. For example look at the C6 Corvette from the late 00s Nurb' times and compare them to much more expensive and more modern cars ;)

Only .4 behind the Turbo S. Probably would have beat it had the track been in better shape. The Z06 will likely be top 3.

Just placed my deposit on mine, MSRP $69k USD for mine in the US. Lovely car, great value.

@lotsofcurveslover

Жыл бұрын

Are they selling for MSRP?

@harryszeto8292

Жыл бұрын

@@lotsofcurveslover yeah, its just that you have to wait for 6-12 months. I just got my G42 M240i so im just enjoying what I have while waiting for the C8.

Thanks for the ultrawide format. Fits my screen nicely.

Yeah, and the Aventador SVJ at 5x the price doesn't look contrived I suppose. 🙄

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

European cars get a pass, don’t you know?

Corvette recommends track settings on it's fully adjustable suspension. This would improve the track timing substantially. Camber at the front needs to be increased from -0.5 to -3.0, and at the rear from -0.5 to -2.49. Tire pressure is recommended to be reduced by 6 psi at the front, 5 at the rear. The camber settings can be used for street driving as well but will increase tire consumption.

@garagecedric

Жыл бұрын

This is true for pretty much any road car available out there though, they all have granny camber from the factory and can make big gains with just a much more suitable track setup.

@maximborodyuk3773

Жыл бұрын

@@garagecedric no it's NOT. Very few cars have the capability of changing the camber this much in stock.

@GadgetyMV

Жыл бұрын

@@garagecedric Do all road cars come with fully adjustable suspension?

@GadgetyMV

Жыл бұрын

@@garagecedric Indeed. Still, not all road cars come with fully adjustable suspension from the factory, do they?

@garagecedric

Жыл бұрын

@@maximborodyuk3773 some cars have more adjustment, some need after market excenter bolts for adjustment for example. Its not exactly something new, my sports car can set that amount of camber in std form. its good that the corvette has it, but not exactly revolutionary, alla cars need a sporter alignment for cornering.

Good lap!

Great job Steve 👍🏻

Some of those specs shown in the video are wrong, such as transmission.

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, true: spec reads 7 speed, it’s an 8 speed.

Look, you guys need to move to California. Having to deal with crap weather all the time is not only frustrating for you! 😁There was easily another second in that lap. A note on the looks. The C8 can be configured to look however you want it. Take a few minutes on the configurator. Make it understated and (nearly) elegant, or like a Halloween party, or as menacing as you like. Looking forward to the Z06 on a dry track (and bring this one back!). Great you finally had a chance with it!

@thomasmacgruber6701

Жыл бұрын

Lol, not California, unless you want to be surrounded by liberals, pedophiles and homeless feces. Oh and you will paybthe highest tax rate, housing is the most expensive in the Union and people are fleeing the state by the hundreds of thousands. Last year alone 600 thousand people left California. It's a dying state and I pray everyday that it breaks off into the Pacific and sinks.

I might be wrong but isn’t this cheaper or around the same price as a rs3 or m3 mmmm think I’d take the vet just because it would feel like a super car rather than a tuned family car 👍

This is the only channel that spurs nostalgia with just its name, EVO, evocative ethos forever.

Track camber settings change the car dramatically. Its one of the best handling cars on the planet with those settings.

@Leonidae

Жыл бұрын

Also wears tires faster.

That circuit is one of the most beautiful in UK. Great lap time. Not expected the C8 to be faster than the 992 Carrera S! About the looks it grows on you. Maybe with the C9, the design will be refined a bit!

@jameswillard1

Жыл бұрын

It’s actually one of the first cars I can remember that hasn’t grown on me one bit as far as styling, and although an undeniable value, this car just looks unproportionate and generic

@lovelehstuff

Жыл бұрын

Nope not for me this is right down there with designs that don't Drow on me along the new m3 the M3 at least just has an ugly face but this has very stupid proportions

I don't agree about the looks but to each there own. Anyway the base Vette is more of a GT car so I always feel a certain way when people are tracking it against cars far above it. That job is as you stated for the Z06. Please track it in good conditions so that you can get things in their true perspective.

Just wait till you test the new Z06!

I love the Anglesey; it looks like so much fun!

Can’t wait. I have one being built. Also would love to track Anglesey.

disclaimer was appropriate, not the best lap EVO can generate with the car, I am sure based on what was shown. the Z06 will be faster for sure overall, very different engine in some ways. these are very good cars

More Steve, please!

Need to see the Z06 👍

Guys, the base model here is faster than the 911 and sounds a LOT better. It's double wishbone front and rear too unlike all 911s (GT3 has double wishbone in front). Insane car. I've been wanting to pick one up but backordered here in US. huge wait list.

Ultimate giant killer is ZR-1 with pressurized 5.5L, at least 800 hp, probably 900.

Fair Review.......

Did you adjust the suspension to its track alignment setting and lower tire pressure correctly or just lap it in default configuration?

@michaelkearney3646

Жыл бұрын

Yes, by adjusting wheel camber.

was that on the regular alignment or chevys recommended track alignment?

21:9 Love!

The one thing Brit's know but rather like to ignore is that American automotive history has always drawn inspiration from aeronautics in their styling as far back as the 40's, especially fighter jets which to them represents their ingenuity in building fast, maneuverable, predatory tech. The C8 has stealth fighter looks and so for Americans it's cool. Brits don't have a stealth fighter, so naturally anything that looks like one has to suck because of the bitter taste of sour grapes. 😅

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

The C8 corvette was modeled after their shark inspired designs since the original mako shark concept, the C8 takes that and adds F-35 design cues including vortex generators into the design to both honor the Navy and Airforce, and to reduce drag by creating a small vortex that let's air roll over the hood and create a high pressure zone there to aid in downforce

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Just more hating from the British because they have nothing in the way of decent sports cars except the lotus, and even it has a crappy Toyota motor in it.

cant wait to see the Zed here

Is that running the recommended track alignment?

They really did sacrifice the overall look of this car with that rear that screams Chevy Camaro and there's no doubt about that point. The chief engineer of this car has gone on record that they designed in order to fit two golf bags in the rear. It's practicality over aesthetics and IMO, really missed the bar of having that Stingray racer look but in a modern car. It would have looked much better with proper Stingray rear quarter panels but they chose overall profits and volume over creativity. As a former, huge fan of Corvette, that one does still sting a bit considering it's the first ever mass produced mid engined version.

You need to try the C8 Z06 it will surprise you in a good way, make sure its on Cup2 R.

The main issue with the looks is the tail. Just too much sheetmetal. I was hoping the Z06/GS would lose the trunk for more rear aero treatment. Still solid though

When the Zora appears, it should be significantly quicker, than even the Z06, which is no slug

Here was me thinking you're doing a great job picking your line during the run! Only for you to say it wasn't the best. It's certainly a car that does perform, but would you have one? It looks that it's about to transform in to some mega bot...

It’s 300k! In Australia

This is March, 2023. Why are we testing the slowest, entry level C8 that came out almost 4 years ago? Try a ZO6 with the track package option! Or wait for the ZR1, or the Zora!

When you say Chevrolet "ripped up it's own rule book" you do know they've been building mid-engine Corvette prototypes for over 60 years right?

@j7b890

Жыл бұрын

prototypes count as zero...up until yesterday they were swearing the c7 was the best handling car in the world and ohv were the best when the rest of the world moved away from that since the 70s.

@sidefx996

Жыл бұрын

@@j7b890 Why? It's not a "rulebook" if you're pouring millions of dollars into developing and testing the technology. And you say that like you're completely unaware of the mile long resume of race wins, championships and World Records Corvettes have been setting, again, for over 60 years. Nevermind the sales numbers the "rest of the world" could only dream of.

@j7b890

Жыл бұрын

@@sidefx996 so wait you r saying that with decades of testing they finally managed to produce a mid engine car? is that meant to be really an incredible achievement since gm is one of the biggest car companies in the world? every car manufacturer has hundreds of prototypes but is what they produce which matters. And up until few years ago the best layout ever was in their opinion not mine not the mid engine one. Mile long race wins that several other manufacturer have even while having 1/100th of gm s budget. The unfortunate truth is that most americans are unware of the also hundreds of races lost outside of the usa in international competitions. An example? corvettes raced in europe for decades, c5rs and c6rs and with proper bop and not very favourable bop like in the usa they didnt outclass anybody. This is easily checked even on wikipedia. You shoot yourself in the leg because gm sells loads of corvettes inside usa and at best canada while companies like ferrari porsche lambo have been having year after year record sales outside of their country of origin. Its easy to say gm has sold all of its c8s when in japan for example they sold 5 times less than 911 or when for the whole of europe they r selling 70 cars a month when roughly porsche is selling 5 times more 911 in the same months. This while making way more profit per car than gm.

@sidefx996

Жыл бұрын

@@j7b890 First off I seriously hope English isn't your first (or second) language, because you write like you have brain damage. Corvette vs, say 911, sales figures are there for all to see (unless you're blind). Not very favorable??? Since 1999 Corvette Racing has 8 victories at the 24 Hours of Le Mans, 4 at the 24 Hours of Daytona, 10 championships in ALMS, and 5 championships in the WeatherTech SportsCar Championship. Going further back, off the top of my head they went undefeated for 3 years straight '85-'88 in SCCA Showroom Stock. Porsche and Lotus got so butthurt they had them banned from the series. In 1990 they set multiple FIA World Land Speed Endurance Records that still stand TO THIS DAY for a production car. Look up the Greder L88s and the multiple class wins at Lemans and elsewhere in the 70's. They won at Sebring and Daytona in 1966. Corvettes won their class at Lemans going all the way back to 1960. I could go on all day. If you don't like the car that's fine. But you can't change facts or history.

Lap request. 992 911 Turbo S and 992 911 GT3 RS please. Thank you!

@evo was this done with the track alignment or street alignment? There would be a huge difference otherwise. If done on street setting, it's kinda a useless test :( You must redo with track alignment setting for comparison!

The stock C7 grand sport was TWO SECONDS FASTER around Laguna

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

It also had Sport Cup 2s which were also significantly wider. Z51 vs Z51, the new one won as compared by Car & Driver, same day. Compare lap times of C8 vs C7 Z06s.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

That's because the C7 Grand Sport was a C7 Z06 with the stingray motor. Much wider tires that were Cup 2s and a lot more downforce

Gear change seems about the same shift time as a zf8 , which you normally say is slow and ain't good enough. Be interested in how many nano seconds difference there really is. Fairly impressive for 80k tho , which is about the price of a round of drinks in London.

475 horsepower?? Here in the US it's rated at 490-495 depending on which factory exhaust was ordered.

i assume it had the track alignment and not the street alignment?...its full seconds difference around any track.

Regular C8 is kind of old news. Need to get a Z06 because it the track oriented verion.

Hell of a lot of car for money. GM's engineers did an amazing job with this new Corvette. But three years later and I still don't like the looks. That goes for both the exterior and interior. No denying it's an amazing car though.

Why did they not use the new modle for this. If anything I think they should come back with the top tear modle

I mean it's a BIG change to go from front to mid engine platform. Kudos to GM for making that jump it shows they are serious about making a sports car. It will naturally take them another few generations before they get it right on. Lets not forget they won a lot of races in corvettes back in the day.

@kahless0173

Жыл бұрын

it was still mid engined before, it was just mid front not mid rear. vettes been mid engined since the c4.

I'd love to reskin one of these, it's the looks that put me off. Mechanically, they've done an awesome job.

@sidefx996

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, what's underneath and the fact that after all these years they finally built it is definitely what makes it special. But after cars like say a '62, '63 or a '69, which look like naked models with sheets draped over them, this one just doesn't do it quite the same for me.

Not fair, should be the Z06

You know what's happening when Steve is quiet out of no where lol 😆

Didnt set up for the track. There is a camber setting for track with more trans oil

Ok Evo time to decide the C8 Vett or Lotus Emira ?

@don7680

Жыл бұрын

Vette

@romulus_

Жыл бұрын

as much as I like the emira and am not into most american cars, would have to go vette. better value for money. better service network. more up to date technology. lotus needs to prove it's ready to produce high quality, good value for money cars. pragmatism would lead me to choose a cayman gts 4.0 over an emira.

@epbrown01

Жыл бұрын

First off - the Moto Guzzi Audace? How is it? I've been tempted but haven't succumbed. Gorgeous bike, but I've yet to meet someone that's ridden one... I grew up in KY and the Corvette has long been the local dream car, but never for me. Since they've gone mid-engine and modern tech, I'd finally pick one over most things, including the Emira.

@pistonburner6448

Жыл бұрын

Are you seriously suggesting choosing a Chinese car?

@garagecedric

Жыл бұрын

Only one of them is manual, if it was my weekend car the choice would be the British built most likely:)

"Telling an American sports car (and the Corvette, of all people!) that they look 'too contrived'? That's gonna go right over their head. And, I'm saying that because I'm an American."

Cars that aren't aesthetically perfect or feel unresolved in some undefinable way.. Just get them in black. It masks so many imperfect lines. And I have to imagine a black C8 would look pretty mean.

Put Cup2 on it and try again

WHY OH WHY are they not testing the z06? screw the normal c8, thats simply the entry model. you want to test the zo6, heck even the E-RAY

The 570S had P-Zeros (garbage). If it had PS4Ss it would have been a second or two quicker.

Looks like great value in the US at $ price, not so much in the UK. Good to see the Corvette becoming competitive with the Euro stuff finally at more than just drag racing.

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

It has been competitive with Euro stuff for years, go back and look at historic Nurburgring ring times versus Porsche.

Leave it to us Americans to create a race car that 'ticks' all of the boxes and ends up looking like Transformer doll.

Impressive! But we all kinda knew that this car would perform amazingly....especially for that kind of money. To me, it's not a Corvette. And, i like the front end but the rear is...meh. Nice car overall of course. But for the money, you got, yes, a whole lot of car. Cool and all but i still don't have the money ^^

With the existence of the Ferrari v8 inspired Z06, there's no reason for this car

@cleverusernamecl5532

Жыл бұрын

It is half the price with adjustments right now!

Agreed on the contrived looks. I've seen several in person now, and it still looks over styled. One heck of a performance bargain though! And that almost excuses the looks.

80,000 pounds I didn't know it weighted that much. Just kidding.

Great car 300 lbs overweight and wrong tires

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

You mean 300 pounds heavier than the Carrera S, whose time it handily beat?

Could you please make an ep with a normal car like a clio tce100 but with good tires and chassi set up by an f1 team(with mods) and let us se the difference

You deleted my comment about the track???

Umm looked sluggish to me rather have a golf R

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

Did you actually watch it and see the time it ran? Beating a 911 Carrera S and within a 0.4s of a991.2 Turbo S, is not far from “sluggish”.

If only it looks a little less contrived? My ass. 😂 Btw that was a sloppy lap.

Could you have had a worse lead up to the start line? Sheesh.

One of the most heinous and bizarre looking cars ever made. I try to find beauty in anything with 4 wheels but this is a mess. Very fun to drive though, I'll give it that. Incredible bang for buck.

I could shave another second from that time

Red is probably the worst color for that car. Brown, Black and White are the best.

The styling doesnt do anything for me.

@don7680

Жыл бұрын

Waste your money on something else then.

@95mushroom

Жыл бұрын

Just get it in black, and pretend its an F117

a better driver would have a way better laptime he obviously cant drive it to its limits

no manual = GM fail/bust/fail

@95mushroom

Жыл бұрын

Yep, perfect logic. Only GM deserves the criticism for no manual. None of the others, only GM.

@badcholesterol

Жыл бұрын

@@95mushroom I hate gm as much as if not more than the next guy but you're 100% right. theyve all gone auto only, if anything gm is late to that game.

I don't understand how they were able to make it so ugly. It is absolutely hideous.

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

And if it was a European car, you’d be saying how gorgeous it is. We get it, Eurosnob.

@darren4747

Жыл бұрын

@@markw9512 nope. It is simply ok looking. Not ugly but not handsome either

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

@@darren4747 in your opinion, which I think is European biased

But seriously the design looks like some inbred backyard mechanic tried to make a 488 out of foam core

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

What do you care, Frenchy? The only view you’re ever going to see of it is the tail lights. Go drive an ugly Alpine

I agree, shoot the designer of the c8, they guy is all straight edges and no curves. triangles and squares!?? needs a lesson in swooping harmonious lines and curves. the car looks design by comittee.

@pistonburner6448

Жыл бұрын

Who are you? What design guru authority are you supposed to be?

1.7 tonnes? GTFO

What do you mean "a little bit less contrived"? It has to be one of the ugliest cars on the road! If I was given one the first thing I would do is give it back. That said there is no arguing the immense bang for the buck.

Corvettes are starting to look like traditional Ferraris and Ferraris are starting to look like pieces of crap... front end view anyway.

Worst driving I've ever seen anyone post as a 'good lap'. Sheesh, what was that

Lol, just buy a 911. Or even better, a preowned GT3. Case closed.

@markw9512

Жыл бұрын

And then get your ass demolished at the circuit by the Z06. Enjoy!