When he calls him "Valery" for the first time in this scene the bromance was official.

@ElecTr1fy30

Жыл бұрын

And later calling him 'Valera'.

"to the point that you can't even administer morphine for the pain, which is...unimaginable." Well...to hell with *that.*

@rpsnider85

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, thats when you just kill them as fast as humanly possible. They are already dead anyway, why let them suffer. Its horrific, but truly death is the better fate, one that they cannot avoid for any length of time regardless of treatment, so when they get to that point mercy killings are needed.

@MoviePolitik

3 жыл бұрын

@@rpsnider85 like Legasov said "This time tomorrow they'll be begging for that bullet"

@rudyjuarez4535

3 жыл бұрын

Shooting them in the head. Quick and regretfully, merciful.

@MyHentaiGirl

3 жыл бұрын

@@rudyjuarez4535 just check out that Japanese worker who was kept alive through all that Jesus Christ

@gunnarstreuli

3 жыл бұрын

The pictures of that poor guy are horrifying

Boris feeding those dogs gave those animals some hope

@terrypennington2519

4 жыл бұрын

This was actually problematic considering they'd have to exterminate them later

@3of11

4 жыл бұрын

Latency period

@BatmanHQYT

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it didn't last very long :(

@johnb.8687

3 жыл бұрын

In real life those actor dogs are doing fine. Wait a minute...there’s no such thing as an actor dog. My god

@0__027

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnb.8687 Ofc there are actor dogs. just like there are police dogs, circus dogs, nurse dogs (the ones who comfort other animals at vet's)

That Latency period just makes Radiation a more sadistic way to go. Like it just goes "feeling better, have a little hope? Haha got ya, now back to dying in agony."

@SteveL11

Жыл бұрын

My dad is a nurse and he said this is completely normal, happen very often. Not just to human but about anything living thing really. A few days of magical recovery then you're gone. It's almost beautiful, in some ways, death give you a chance to say goodbye to your love ones.

@ChibiKeruchan

Жыл бұрын

well that's because your immune system had given up on healing the wound and just focus on making you feel well. but if that wound that theyve given up is an organ that will make you dead. then you will die even if you feel completely fine. also the chances that you feel completely fine is because you nerves are damages beyond repair which mean you can't feel anything. just imagine a wound that keep destroying by itself. and your immune system is trying to repair it 24/7. if you lack the nutrients that your immune system need then good luck to you. look at it like wolverine inside a tortured chamber where he keep getting cut 24/7 and keep getting healed too for days, weeks or months until his immune system gave up.

" Well.....in a sense we've gotten off easy then. " Scary how right he is. Compared to many of those workers who will slowly decompose in the most painful way possible? Dying of cancer in a few years is merciful.

@sciencoking

Жыл бұрын

A walk in the park, so to speak

@magnussohlman2535

11 ай бұрын

What was the total death toll of Chernobyl again? Was it 30 people in total?

@sciencoking

11 ай бұрын

@@magnussohlman2535 Not great not terrible

@NangDoofer

11 ай бұрын

@@magnussohlman2535 31 immediate deaths

@bigbools7778

11 ай бұрын

@@magnussohlman253531 as a direct result, probably tens of thousands as a result of cancer

You didn’t see those -NKVD- KGB agents. YOU DIDN’T because they’re not there.

@Falcoun1

3 жыл бұрын

The NKVD and the KGB are two different things that don’t overlap in timeline. By this point the NKVD was long gone.

@gpwnedable

3 жыл бұрын

@@Falcoun1 you'd think Stalin would know.

@Scarletraven87

3 жыл бұрын

Ever seen a male bull elephant hiding behind a telephone pole? He was good, wasn't he?

@mrshovelbottom7475

2 жыл бұрын

@@Falcoun1 KGB was the GUGB of the NKVD which later was NKGB under the NKVD, and then MVD & MGB. The KGB is just the MGB when the state security split off from the NKVD, but the MVD still exist.

@doctorcrabs2465

2 жыл бұрын

2 agents, with 1.6 agents in hiding. Not great, not terrible.

Every single scene in this series is brilliant. This one in particular is genius with Scherbina recognizing Legasov's political naivete and taking him for a walk to clue him in before he gets himself into trouble. Scherbina understands that there's no way he can resolve the crisis without Legasov and takes a modest, gentle approach to Legasov's political lesson while also making Legasov understand he won't be able to accomplish much without him and his guidance. For nearly two decades Band of Brothers was my hands-down favorite mini-series but both it and Chernobyl are now tied.

Name a more iconic duo.

@CoDWiiPS3Gameplay

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely impossible

@shouvikdey9494

3 жыл бұрын

James Carter and lee Though I'm not comparing them I really liked their friendship evolve throughout the show

@Thraxraganharapollyus

3 жыл бұрын

David Benioff and Dan Weiss

@doomsncrew

3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy McNulty and William "Bunk" Moreland.

@lxperron610

3 жыл бұрын

Gimli and legolas

If you want a clear picture of the effects of radiation look up: Hisashi Ouchi. The man had taken in a fatal dosage of radiation. Instead of letting him die like he and his loved ones pleased, he was kept alive for 83 days. Throughout that time period his skin died, his organs were failing, he heart was stopping. Flesh was falling off. One day with simple pressure his foot just fell off. He begged to die. The morphine couldn’t help. He was bleeding faster than the blood transfusions. He died finally from organ failure. It’s why in the helicopter he said “if you fly us over the smoke, tomorrow you’d wish you had taken the bullet.” Truly a fate worse than death.

@sango3128

3 жыл бұрын

And people say assisted suicide is inhumane.

@honeyy9559

3 жыл бұрын

@William Cui is not if the human being is suffering in that state

@nokomoko8832

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it was his family that delayed the do not resusitate order until 2 months later.

@shawnmcdoge2215

3 жыл бұрын

Luckily he probably wasn't very aware or conscious after I think like day 63 or something his heart stopped and when they brought him back he couldn't speak, eyes never opened and response to stimuli were extremely limited

@HateTheIRS

3 жыл бұрын

@@shawnmcdoge2215 he still could’ve been conscious. Not able to move. But still conscious.

Its not often you get a masterpiece like this show. Truly one of a kind

this entire show was scarier than most horrorfilms, the pure horrors of nuclear catastrophes, if I ever were to get into such a disaster I'd immediately off myself

@chrisrautmann8936

Жыл бұрын

Horror usually works by implying what you fear. Reality doesn't need to imply a damned thing.

@38vocan

Жыл бұрын

Please don't, even if you were hugging the outside of the reactor building of an American powerplant during a meltdown and steam explosion, the likelyhood of real harm beside cancer in many years is very low. The main difference is that American powerplants have a concrete dome strong enough to withstand the internal explosion, thus you wouldn't have the huge radiation spillover that happened at Chernobyl.

@metalltitan

Жыл бұрын

A monster or daemon - however horrible - you can see it and understand it physically. It has limbs, eyes, mouth maybe other features we can recognize and rationalize. But radiation and cosmic horror don't work that way. They tap into the primordial fear of that which we cannot see or comprehend.

@Drummr88

8 ай бұрын

@@38vocan I think he's probably aware of the unlikelihood of a modern "Chernobyl. I think the point was that these people were in the midst of an absolutely unprecedented (and hopefully never to be repeated) occurrence. Many people were exposed to fatal doses, and horrific situations where taking your life into your own hands seemed like the only tolerable way out. And at that time, most citizens in a fairly rural, blue-collar society, or anywhere else for that matter, wouldn't have been very familiar with radiation, physics, or what to do in an event which had never happened before.

"If we're seeing them out in the open now, it's because they want us to know." Pretty scary.

damm imagine getting fatal cancer being considered getting of easy

“Three days to three weeks”. If it were you, you’d hope for three days.

@saadman920

Жыл бұрын

*minutes

@xathu-er2zr

Жыл бұрын

yeah, i would beg for that bullet

@jamessweet5341

7 ай бұрын

I'd be looking for a pistol barrel to swallow.

He knew statecraft.

Yeah in hindsight.....this is probably among the best written parts of the show. The moment Scherbina mellows out, due to having finally understood the severity of the helicopter situation.

Those watchers stance is similar to the way Boris and the other scientists looked at the end of episode 5

@AlexanderUnit-731

4 жыл бұрын

The entire scene is meaningless and was needed only to show the "evil KGB". Pure propaganda. What was the purpose of taking a walk? To talk about something forbidden. And what is forbidden in the effects of radiation on human? Nothing.

@chrismetzler8049

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderUnit-731 What's your point here? That the KGB weren't such bad guys?

@AlexanderUnit-731

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrismetzler8049 My point here is: this scene has no narrative or historical logic, it lacks any sense except for propaganda effect.

@chrismetzler8049

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderUnit-731 It's a mechanism for making the viewer aware of the fact that those involved in significant positions of responsibility were being watched by the KGB. How is that propaganda?

@AlexanderUnit-731

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrismetzler8049 Any illogical scene that ignores historical facts in "historical movie" automatically becomes propaganda. For example, the real Legasov committed suicide in his private cottage, and not in the ragged post-Soviet appartment of the 1990s. And the reason for his act (according to Legasov’s daughter) was suffering from radiation sickness, and not because he was harassed by the "evil KGB".

Legasov’s description of ARS is so horrifying that I forgot all about the second half of this scene with the KGB agents. It’s even creepier in the original script. Shcherbina just barely nods his head to the left. Was that a signal? Legasov glances back down the street in the direction of Shcherbina's nod, and sees: THIRTY METERS BEHIND THEM - a MAN AND WOMAN under a street lamp. Clearly following from a distance. But not just any man and woman. The "husband and wife" from the bar. The wife who asked Legasov if there were anything to worry about. They don't seem worried now at all. *Nor do they seem like a husband and wife.* They just stare back at Legasov. Dead-eyed. Expressionless. And above all, no attempt to disguise who they truly are. Legasov turns back to look straight ahead. Terrified. My god...that night... *he almost told them what he knew...* Shcherbina resumes walking. Legasov moves with him. Stiffly. Trying not to look back. SHCHERBINA: Now you know why I wanted to take a walk. Obviously the work site is bugged. But I suspect our rooms as well. Even our bathrooms. They say you haven't taken a proper shit until you've done it in front of the KGB. And now Legasov understands the reason for Shcherbina's impassioned defense of the Soviet state. LEGASOV: I've seen them before. They've been here the whole time. Shcherbina sighs. Legasov is a smart man, and yet so stupid. SHCHERBINA: Of course they've been here the whole time. If we're seeing them out in the open now-- it's because they want us to know. Legasov glances back one more time at the man and woman. But keeps walking along with Shcherbina. And the pets... and the KGB... keep following.

@Tonatsi

Жыл бұрын

How did you find the script?

@farukhsande7280

11 ай бұрын

Try writing a novel. Even after have watched the scene multiple times, you writing kept me involved.

@mattkimm6501

11 ай бұрын

@@farukhsande7280 it's the original script lol

@eacaraxe

11 ай бұрын

How the KGB was represented in the show was the one thing Mazin could not have gotten more completely wrong had he tried.

@martinguerra5152

10 ай бұрын

the dogs were KGB too?!

Sounds like most of us would in fact be begging for that bullet...

Wise words from wise men

Great scene and well portrayed/delivered.

Somehow in a scene discussing some of the most horrifiying aspecst of radiation, two people in the background are the most unnerving parts.

Wouldnt expect a nuclear scientist to be able to so accurately answer a biological question like that. Whether in the show or in real life, bravo

@akiwi8091

7 ай бұрын

I would think nuclear physicists who do not know the answer to that question don't live for very long.

@crimsonninja6995

7 ай бұрын

Any physics nerd would know roughly what radiation poisoning does to you. You can't exactly be interested in the history of nuclear physics without stumbling upon what radiation poisoning does to the human body. Like the demon core from WWII, Chernobyl or the guy who accidentally put his head inside of a particle accelerator.

@mr.jx5n324

2 ай бұрын

i just wonder HOW do they know what radiation does to a human.. and i'm guessing they were doing experiments on humans..

@louvellyn

Ай бұрын

@@mr.jx5n324 They know because the earlier generations of scientists that worked on radioactivity, didn't know. And then discovered it the hard way. Look up Pierre & Marie Curie, their notebooks are to this day still considered unsafe to handle! Not everything is a conspiracy.

Damn nuclear radiation isn't to fuck with

@florentinovasquez3801

Жыл бұрын

Its the hellfire the Torah talks about; an invisible fire that burns to the bones, rots and burns you to death. Pain intense enough to make you cry and knash your teeth, and how a dark cloud would be left covering the land. Bitter as wormwood.

All those poor animals, heartbreaking!

dang, I also kinda feel bad for those kgb agents.. they're absorbing the same radiation these two are as well :/

The scary part of it all is that there are KGB agents present, even amidst all this... a nuclear disaster on a never before seen scale.

Then you remember the scene with Charkov, "trust but verify".

Bubbles and George Greene Stressin

It’s almost ironic that they died from nuclear exposure rather than lung cancer from the cigarettes.

@unknow11712

Жыл бұрын

well, they are not sure he's lung cancer was caused by radiation or cigarettes or predisposition , the safe bet is the radiation ofc.

@concept5631

11 ай бұрын

Might as well have a ciggy when the radiation poisoning will kill you before the tumors can form from the nicotine.

Damn kgb was soo much scary

I enjoyed this show, but it did serve the purpose of making the public much more fearful of nuclear power. So, while nuclear is reduced to address public panic, the much greater deaths and environment harm caused by every other kind of power is just ignored. Because, as we know, the public is quite happy for lots of people to die continuously and quietly just so long as a few don't die a more gruesome death.

Bromance alert

@brandondaniels9471

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment 😂 In all seriousness tho... these two actors have EXCELLENT chemistry/pacing.

@Marshie_Gum

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought that the second I watched it lol

In Soviet Russia, Presidential Security Detail follows you…

But that somehow DIDN’T happen to the divers.

@SaiKumar-oc1xu

3 жыл бұрын

Yep maybe they wore protection or just got lucky.

@Iwanwahid1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaiKumar-oc1xu just got lucky.

@cableyoutuber

2 жыл бұрын

From what I heard, water is very good at blocking radiation.

@Atajew

2 жыл бұрын

@@cableyoutuber Yeah that's why there's a thing called spent fuel pool in nuclear reactors

@jamesbechtel7736

2 жыл бұрын

@@cableyoutuber yeah you can basically swim in the pool of water around some reactors and be ok in terms of radiation. Heat might be an issue tho.

it´s weird how radiation affects people different, because not all people that went into the reactor had horrible ands, i think some of the divers lived long lives and even the liquidators some of them lived to a fairly ripe old age, whereas others died horrific and fast...

@simonphoenix3789

10 ай бұрын

@michi6486 Its not so much that radiation affects different people differently but that different people were exposed to different dosages and at different locations on their body. If you accidentally approach some of the graphite and get a few seconds worth of radiation, you might become sick, but you probably won't die. But if you go picking up chunks of graphite with your bare hands and carry them around clutches to your chest... that's a whole different ballpark. You can look at radiation like an invisible fire. Touching a flame for a split second will do a lot less damage than being roasted in an oven for an hour. Unless of course the first flame is so ridiculously hot that just approaching it burns you up.

And Sherbina died of cancer a few years later.

This is exactly the moment when the pain became unimaginableberg

So sorry for the animals 🙁

How many agents are there? 3.6 agents. 3.6, not great, not terrible.

And THIS, f*ckin' THIS, is why I have a way out if I need it.

Its interesting how he immediately goes to the worst possible outcome. Sure, that did happen to some of the firefighters and those who were exposed to the open core material. But most people just got a low dose and either felt nothing or were mildly ill and ended up with an increased chance of thyroid cancer. None of the divers died from radiation either.

In soviet russia walking takes you.

What difference would it make, the are walking dead

Skaargard look like president lydohn b Johnson

"Where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched” “They will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; the worms that eat them will not die, the fire that burns them will not be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.”

@concept5631

11 ай бұрын

Where'd you find that quote?

@Bea-wb9uk

11 ай бұрын

@@concept5631 Isaiah 66:24

Only two KGB agents? Not great. Not terrible.

Irresponsible Power.😑

Coming soon to a "democracy" near you.

My Surveillance Instructor told Me he didn’t want to see Me, whilst he took a Walk. Three times he had to double back on himself and use Counter Surveillance Techniques to find Me, because he honestly believed he had lost Me completely. And every time he did, there I was somewhere close behind him, completely unseen until he deliberately looked for Me.

KGB using female agents?

@toxikyle5419

Жыл бұрын

Most KGB field agents were female. CIA too for that matter. They draw less suspicion than men. The fact that you were skeptical that a woman could be a spy pretty much confirms they were right.

@lolno7252

Жыл бұрын

Much more frequently that you would think

@claytonmachine12

Жыл бұрын

Everyone did. KGB. OSS. SOE, etc etc etc.

@kleetus92

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah.... Eric Swalwell was shacking up with one, and Diane Feinstein had one as her personal driver for 20 years... oh yes... honey pots are very useful.

@unknow11712

Жыл бұрын

spy agency require way less phisical capacity than special forces . and as you kindly point out, alot of ppl would not even take into consideration female could be agents .

Taking a walk would make sense if they spoke on a taboo subject. But in the end they go out to talk about nothing - about radiation effect on ppl, a well-known subject since 1940's.

@louisferdinandceline3016

4 жыл бұрын

exposition for the audience

@AlexanderUnit-731

4 жыл бұрын

@@louisferdinandceline3016 why did they choose "evil KGB" meme for exposition? Why not a consultation of doctors, why not a report of scientists, why frontal stupid propaganda? Do they regard the audience as children?

@louisferdinandceline3016

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderUnit-731Yes they probably do regard them as children, overgrown ones perhaps. Given the attention span and historical knowledge of your average tv audience that's hardly surprising. Nor is the evil KGB meme a surprise. Have you ever seen a positive depiction of them on western media?

@AlexanderUnit-731

4 жыл бұрын

@@louisferdinandceline3016 Isn’t the idea of the Chernobyl miniseries was to stop considering the audience as a crowd of unconscious children and stop lying to them and stop feed them propaganda instead of facts?

@witham241

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderUnit-731 think of it this way. They take a walk to exposit about mundane subjects so the watchers won't see it as a threat. Perhaps next time they won't follow so closely and they can discuss more taboo subjects.

Communism kids, not even *once*

The dialogue and delivery of it is a fking thing to behold.

What Scherbina does here is a testament to his courage: he asks the expert, Legasov, to tell him what he has inflicted on these men. He wants to know the horror he has inflicted on fellow human beings, knowing that it will likely be horrific, and he will have to live with that burden. It is incredibly courageous; many people, myself quite likely included, would have avoided this question if we were in his position. It is so much easier not to ask and not to know. PS I had switched the names before. Tip of the hat to @unemiryune9322 and @trbz_8745 for pointing it ouy.

@unemiryune9322

11 ай бұрын

*Scherbina

@trbz_8745

10 ай бұрын

Legasov is the expert answering

@terraincognita3749

10 ай бұрын

@@unemiryune9322 Thanks! Changed it.

@terraincognita3749

10 ай бұрын

@@trbz_8745 Thanks! Changed it!

This show was exceptionally terrible. All actors speaking with English accents made it so cheesy; that paired with the bad writing was just so disappointing.

@TimberlakeTigerGirl

6 ай бұрын

That's just your opinion.