My dad and I always get all kinds of grief for it, but we both love the old school white gas Coleman stoves and lanterns. Something about them, the smell, the way you have to pump them manually. They have such a strong “yeah, I’m camping” vibe compared to modern plastic/propane stuff. The stuff is over 50 years old and still works great. They can sit for 10 years and then fire right up again, the gas has never gone bad. They’re just classic cool. 👍👍

@EclecticBuddha

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Practically, LED lanterns beat the gas ones hands down. There is a very specific satisfaction from lighting the mantles and hearing that roar.

@drwolfpoint

Жыл бұрын

I inherited a Coleman 426 three burner white gas stove that I have used for years now, recently I acquired the lanterns as well. There is something about the sound of white gas appliances that has that camping feel.

@tomwhelan4561

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% mate!

@Doctor9

Жыл бұрын

@@EclecticBuddha Except of course, in the winter, where the added heat from the gas lantern can be quite desirable. The other question is whether in 50 years, those LED lanterns will still be working - I've got naptha ones older than that still run like a charm.

@randyblackburn9765

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I have the old mantle pump lantern too . One thing I’ll share , during the early 1950’s my father would melt Plumber lead on a pump up liquid gas blow torch .Once when he drew back the plunger to pump , gas had leaked behind the piston and shot gas from the vent hole and into his face which ignited. Fortunately he smothered it out with his shirt .

the price is the dealbreaker, the coleman still does the job and is only a little slower and bigger cant justify the price of the jetboil, i think id go with the coleman

@woof3598

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

@treasurethetime2463

2 жыл бұрын

My friends has the Coleman. We've used it for the past 10 years maybe? I just don't understand rationalizing the jetboil unless you drive a smart car.

@jakecarruthers6513

2 жыл бұрын

"Only a little slower" in terms of minutes for that particular comparison of water volume. Yes, that was only a three minute difference; however, that translates to the Coleman taking 80% longer. That's fairly significant.

@christhompson3750

2 жыл бұрын

The burner rack seems closer to the burner on the Jetboil than it is on the Coleman.

@micheleeastlake2994

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree.

I've eaten a lot of great meals of a Coleman camp stove. Brings back a lot of great memories.

@TrailRecon

2 жыл бұрын

Love the vintage stuff! Let's hope I can start preparing a few camp meals on it soon.

@dirf554

2 жыл бұрын

Those Coleman stove are nice. But, I like the other style. Because putting a larger pan on the briefcase style is harder then the circular style open ones.

@taga2699

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there is a propane savings with the jet ? Speed factor in the type of camping that you do doesn’t really matter. Compact is the main factor, durability quality, and the durability and quality of the pans and handles is IMO what needs to be reviewed with some cooking “mileages” But I really wonder if there is any significant propane savings?

@taga2699

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think the pot n pan are high quality? Easy to clean? Handles? The folding mechanism of the stove? Do you think it would last for 10+ yrs as compared to the Coleman.? If my Coleman was to brake (as it almost did in a recent trip) it price was well worth it considering the many years of use I have gotten out of it.

@taga2699

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad you couldn’t get the vintage stove to work. But looking forward to seeing your vintage items collection. You just might want to test them out that they are working as soon as you receive them in the mail before you attempt a video.. Although it was kind of cool to see you go through the trial. You showed a black Coleman; I wonder how it compares the boiling process with the red Coleman.

I run a 3 burner Coleman suitcase stove when we are camping, the smell of white gas stoves burning brings brings back so many memories of camping with my family as a kid

@TrailRecon On the classic Coleman, Brad, rookie! The part you’re saying is rubber is actually leather. Soak it in some 10/30 or whatever you have engine oil to refresh the leather. And squirt some down the tube the plunger goes into when pumping up. Also, when pumping, don’t forget to unlock the valve at the bottom of the tube. To do this, push plunger all the way to the bottom. Turn clockwise to confirm it is locked. Once you know it’s locked, turn counterclockwise to unlock. You’ll feel a click. Once that happens, it’s unlocked and you can pressurize the tank. Also, since it hasn’t been used ever, be certain you open/close the needle several times. That’s what the bent up “knob” is connected to is the rod inside the generator-the part that goes across the burner. Also, the heat doesn’t atomize the gas, it heats it to point that it turns to a gas vapor to burn as that pretty blue flame. If you want I can walk you through it via FaceTime. Also, don’t need to use white gas. Just use unleaded fuel for your car - not diesel! I’ve been using regular unleaded fuel in stoves and lanterns for 30 plus years no issues at all. And WAY cheaper than $15/gallon white gas!

@tpseeker3367

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I wasn't the only that Chuckled when seeing Brad just try & pump up the Coleman without the infamous Thumb Twist. My dad taught me that trick when I was wanting to make hot chocolate. Couldn't figure out why he was laughing then he showed me the thumb twist.

@allover4309

2 жыл бұрын

Yessss 🤙 Came looking to see if anyone had clued Brad in! Glad to see other vintage campers here👍

@bbw8000

2 жыл бұрын

Yup , I guess we’re vintage campers with vintage stoves, sigh.

@tpseeker3367

2 жыл бұрын

Well at least we can get fuel from our gas tanks instead of having to run back into town for propane @@bbw8000

@mannymayer9250

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using a Coleman gas stove for 50 years while hunting, camping and during times when all power is out. It’s a three burner. Oiling the leather piston seal is needed at first burn after being stored for extended periods. They make new pistons but the seal is made of some kind of rubber and when stored for extended periods will not rejuvenate. The Coleman white gas stoves give more heat over propane stoves and do not give off water vapors to help rust things. Highly recommend anyone looking for a Coleman to look at garage and estate sales. Usually they don’t know about and price them very low.

The problem with the old Coleman stoves is that once you buy one for around $10 dollars you have to buy EVERY one you find in the same price range. I used to go to garage sales every weekend and thrift stores so over the years I have accumulated so many that i just feel guilty if i see another one and don't buy it. Its almost like an illness. But if they're made to handle camping I feel like they'll basically last forever. The comments are a true testament to how great they are

@DixieNormas

10 ай бұрын

Ooooff, I just started this cycle. Got my first one 5 days ago for $20, have since bought 2 more stoves, 6 lanterns, and am going tomorrow to see a lady with 3 more lanterns and 2 stoves. FB Marketplace has been feeding the addiction all week. All told I've only spent $120. Now I'm gonna start the journey of restoration...

@northwards2218

7 ай бұрын

I love Coleman white gas stoves and lanterns. Reminds me of my scouting days. Have developed a bit of a collection.

@gwb8445

5 ай бұрын

I have more than 30 Coleman stoves. Only occasionally use one. Yes, it's kinda a sickness 😮😊

@charcoalgriller

5 ай бұрын

I really like white gas over noisy propane. I have a suitcase stove from ‘63 I restored. Big and can take any pan. Still looking for a three burner.

I’ve had many stoves over the years. I’m full time and really put them through the paces. Most have broke or malfunctioned in short order. Others where just not suitable for my use or price was nuts. Last year I came across a Coleman 425E in new condition and bought it for $15.00 usd. I replaced the rubber pump gasket with the leather one. 2 for $9.00. I purchased the propane adapter $21.00. So I can use gasoline or propane. I also mounted piezoelectric starters for each burner. $6.00. $51.00 total and It all fits inside the steel case. It’s the best hard use multi-fuel stove I’ve ever had. Easy parts replacement because it is a classic collectors stove. Parts are all USA or Canada. Hands down.. Bang for the buck.. The old Coleman’s are the way to go….

@lbomya

2 жыл бұрын

Agree! I have 2 Coleman 425Es (one I rehabbed) and they are great especially in cold weather camping. Don't have to worry about your propane freezing up and a lot of BTU power. :)

@impulsestar6431

2 жыл бұрын

Could you give me a link what kind of propane adapter, so it can use gasoline? Thanks a lot 👍

@amishmafia3339

Жыл бұрын

It’s gone up in price like everything. You can not convert a propane Coleman stove to white gasoline. The 425E is about a 50 year old white gasoline stove.

@2fathomsdeeper

Жыл бұрын

I have a bunch of the 425 stoves for prepping, and bought the Dual Fuel model for prospecting in Alaska (gasoline and whitegas). I also have propane adapters for every stove. While propane is nice, 1 gallon of white gas equals 4 propane cylinders. My prepping stoves range from next to new to good condition, and were had in thrift stores for $2 - 15. For prospecting, I go with a brand new stove for each trip because, when I'm 30-50 miles out in the bush, it's no time for breakdowns of used equipment. Never had a trip yet where the old Coleman stove ever let me down! But even then, I carry spare parts. 2 is 1, and 1 is none! And the Coleman fuel lasts forever in those cans. Had a can that was opened and half full sit for 40 years. Still worked as good as new fuel!

@louisedemontigny5110

Жыл бұрын

@@impulsestar6431 you can get an adapter to use propane instead of white gas for the gas burning stoves.

There's something to be said for the compactness of the Jetboil, but I still LOVE my Coleman white gas stove. It travels everywhere with me when I'm on the trail.

I have 8 of these old Coleman stoves from the early fifties to late eighties and 2 single burner and a back pack stove, I love these stoves and all work great.

@stephenm8100

2 жыл бұрын

I've got one from I think the 70s. Great stove, I use it for more than camping. Company party's and picnics.

@shawnk8802

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenm8100 I did not realize just how old these are .. I have one that my father in law gave me and I have used extensively .. now need to look up just how old it is.

@stephenm8100

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnk8802 they have been around for some time. My grandma has some 8mm Home movies of campouts. My Grandparents had one made right after the war.

@CliffSherlock

Жыл бұрын

Started my collection with the y2k scare, I own 4 white gas stoves and a chrome single mantle kerosene lantern ( Coleman-1950’s) love generator style heating and lighting!

@hshalom9113

Жыл бұрын

I have a one burner (with the cover thingy to be a heater) and still have the 3 burner. My 2 burner was stolen 😣 They my be older but made more durable & easy to get replacement parts. I also picked up the stove/oven combo. Love em all.

The tabs on the tank of the old Coleman stove should have the date numbers stamped on them. I have a 3 burner from 1970. Also a little machine oil on the leather plunger will revive that old leather right up.

@85Ranger4x4

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't do that forever, with a gold fount it very well could be undated.

@Fei8lo

2 жыл бұрын

The old leather plungers work great. So easy to get them going again and seem to last forever.

@mnfrench7603

2 жыл бұрын

I too have an old 3-burner. However, I got the propane conversion. It still works like a champ!

@davidregan9872

2 жыл бұрын

Yep! I had an old lantern that didn't work. I put a little oil on it, and it worked great!

@christophercarter3685

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidregan9872 a leather pump cup from the mid 60's that has never had oil on will disintegrate replace the cup and check the the fill cap and see if the rubber is intact you can make your own rubber just use 3 to 4 layers of inner tube that you glued tgether

Very interesting comparison and testing. Thanks. I've found over the years that propane is NOT for me. I am so sick of those little bottles running out and the inevitable hunt for them only to find them at astronomical prices. I'll stick with naphtha/unleaded. And I also find that far too many people focus solely on how hot a stove can get as if they only know how to cook on high. When I cook at home I use the whole heat range from low to high so why would I not do the same out in the woods? I find how evenly the heat is spread and how consistent it is to be far more important than if it can smelt lead in under 30 seconds. Another test which I never see done is how long a full tank of fuel will last on high heat. Knowing how much fuel I will likely use is a very convenient thing so that I neither run out nor take more than is needed.

@EclecticBuddha

2 жыл бұрын

There are adapters to refill the 1lb bottles from a 20lb bottle.

@Null_Experis

Жыл бұрын

@@EclecticBuddha at this point, why not just use a hose to hook the 20 up if you're taking it with you to refill the 1# on site?

I was a stalwart Coleman fan until my wife blessed me with the Genesis System for fathers day last year. The full kit is the way to go, boiling water for pasta is a dream, frying eggs/steak and the cleanup afterwards is a no brainer. Then it ALL tucks away into a neat package. At first I balked at the price but after using it I am a Genesis Fan.

The 425 just needs a few drops of motor oil on the cork and they come right back to life. Also you need the take your thumb off the hole when on the pull stroke. I think you will find in very high altitudes the propane doesnt work as well as the 425 will. I also like that the 425 is a dual fuel stove. They will also run on plain gasoline.

@jeffreyplumber1975

2 жыл бұрын

425 is not dual fuel, that would be I think 424

@mikem5475

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyplumber1975 its dual fuel

@charlespolk5221

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Oil the leather pump gasket. It looks like a refurbished stove as well. The original had a red painted tank not copper.

@AnglinTexas

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlespolk5221 I think the 425B had that tank and the 425C was the first with a red tank. But I could be wrong.

@charlespolk5221

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnglinTexas You may be right. My scout troop had a couple of 425's, I don't know if they were the B or C pattern, both of them had the red tank.

I had a two burner suitcase stove. The heat it produced on high was incredible. I used it plenty for cooking, but it also was hot enough to easily melt lead alloy for bullet casting.

My most fond memories growing up was camping in the 70’s and we had a common stove exactly like you have there! I remember pumping that thing up getting ready so my mom could make coffee, eggs, and bacon on it.

That Jetboil is the best stove I have ever used! I LOVE mine and highly recommend it! I have the 2 burner stove and the satellite burner with a coffee press. The best thing about it is that it takes 4 complete turns to go from off to high. LOTS of heat control! Awesome system!

The good news is that last I checked for my old model 460's you could still get parts from Colman. Lots to be said for those old white gas stoves but they do require more attention than the newer propane ones and you can get more fire than you wanted if you are not mindful of the handling of liquid fuel.

Being a teenager in the 70s my memories of this vintage stove was exactly what you experienced. I was hoping yours would perform better and was considering buying one like it. I have the 80s version that uses propane and it's much more reliable.

Having refurbished two old Coleman stove like the one you have, there is usually two things that go bad. One is the leather seal on the pump dries out. Soak it in oil for a few days and try it. The other problem is the rubber gasket on the fueling cap gets little cracks and leaks air causing a loss in pressure. Fix both of those problems and you should be good to go.

I was watching the whole video just to see the nostalgic Coleman 454 in action. I do snow camping often in high altitude low temperatures where the propane tanks begin to choke and flame out. I also hate to see discarded used tanks littering all over. If I need fuel I get some from my rig and get going. They do take some maintenance but its like going over your rig and making sure it wont leave you stranded. Happy trails TrailRecon I love your work.

@tjclarke4604

Жыл бұрын

You are absolutely correct! Propane has a boiling point of around -40, which means the colder it is outside, the less pressure the canister has, which in turn means less flame and less heat. I have been in arctic situations where the temps are below -40 and propane simply does not boil at that temp, and propane BBQ's and stoves and lanterns just don't work at all, no gas comes out of the burners, it stays liquid. You don't have that problem with white gas because you manually introduce an artificial atmosphere to the fuel canister, and it could be -76 and it would still work (Although you'd probably freeze before having a chance to try, lol!)

For me the Coleman 425 B or later models is my choice for camping, hunting and fishing trips the nostalgia factor just does it for me. When I was a kid my dad took us kids camping and many outdoor adventures. Many meals were cooked on this old stove so it has great memories for me. I still have this old stove which was past down to me and it still works great to this day.

I have had the coleman for about 12 years and it has been great. The one thing that I have always wanted was a good wind screen as the wind can really reduce efficiency. This stove is good for boiling water but it is actually fantastic when it comes to things that need variable temperature.

I remember my father taking us camping and he used the same Coleman white gas stove. Great memories. That was over 50 years ago. Great reviews of the folding stoves.

I appreciate your honest and practical review. So many reviews fail to recognize that when there is a 3 to 1 price difference, you expect more than a little nicer.

Using the equipment from same era-ish as the chief, such a cool idea. Really looking forward to that!

14:00 Looks to me like not only is the JetBoil burner larger, but the grille is closer to the flame also. If the Coleman was lower, it would be hotter. Looks like ~1/2" difference.

@webbtrekker534

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I think the Jet Boil is about 1 inch closer to the flame. I've had the Colman for about 10 years and find it very reliable.

@fatmanoverlanding

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I noticed too

@court2379

2 жыл бұрын

Which means it is less likely to burn food to the pan as the heat can spread out better.

@xenaguy01

2 жыл бұрын

@@court2379 Ummm . . . Oh-oh-kay?

@court2379

2 жыл бұрын

@@xenaguy01 Camping cookware is really thin to save weight. Therefore doesn't distribute heat well. So having a stove burner further away may not heat as fast, but will distribute the heat more evenly meaning less hot spots that will burn your food. What is mm ok about that?

I have the coleman stove (with the red tank). My Dad bought it when I was a little shaver. Cooked a lot of meals in that over the years. Yes, they still make seals for them. MY other favorite is a stainless steel unit that uses denatured alcohol. I originally bought it for the boat (in 86). Still use it today as an outdoor/tailgate cooker. Very informative video!

Great comparison video! I have a vintage Coleman stove too. Finally retired it couple years ago for the fold n go. I also just added a home made skottle that I’ve been trying out.

Do you ever take a "thermos" with you? If so heat the water the night before, that way it wont take as long next morning :)

Just casually shows a green cherokee with no explanation 😄

Great video, enjoyed comparison of Jet Boil and Coleman. I am an old school camper with who has tried about every stove while backpacking, car camping, popups and RVs. Like you,I picked up a vintage 425g Coleman that was unused. I used it daily this summer on a Colorado camping trip. The hissing sound of the gas Coleman proved to be very nostalgic. Decades of great memories came flooding back. Keep up the outstanding work!

Really good review. Both are great stoves. I have a two and a three burner old Coleman stove like your green one, but converted both to propane. Looking forward to the next video.

Wish I hadn’t given my dads old Coleman stove away. I look forward to seeing yours being used, and time test against modern stoves would be interesting.

Been using my Coleman stove for years and it’s been great! I don’t remember the price, but I know it was under $100. I just recently purchased a single burner backpack stove for my solo trips and I find that’s a great balance.

I recently rebuilt my family’s stove and it works great. I am sure you will be able to find the correct parts. The constant pumping at first light up is all part of the charm. Good luck and i look forward to seeing it light.

Great video Master Chief. Reminded me of camping with my Dad with the vintage Coleman stove. I've had many a good meals and memories with one of those. Thanks.

Hey Brad, I have been waiting for this comparison! Thank you so much. I need to desperately downsize gear so the Jet Boil will likely fit the bill. Knowing both brands well, everyone knows you get what you pay for. I would never compare my Coleman cooler to my Pelican cooler. Price is drastically different and so is the life of the ice. Tool for every job. Hope to see you in Flagstaff!

As an “old school” camper, the Coleman white gas stove was the standard for family camping. I’m not a hiker, so never had to worry about weight or size. It’s a nostalgia thing! 😉 If I had to buy a new camp stove, I would still give the old Coleman a try, but in dual fuel. Thanks for the comparison. It was very interesting to watch! 👍🏼

@jonathanh8174

2 жыл бұрын

I have a newer model of one of those (dual fuel, gray tank) and it's been fine. The materials are a bit flimsier than the models made even in the 1990s, but it gets the job done.

@jeffreymarley6877

Жыл бұрын

I need to purchase a stove, I was considering the white fuel but keep going back and forth😂 not sure which will be my first purchase but I probably will buy two in the long term

A fond memory for me is going with my father to the local Hardwar Store (you know the old General Store that had everything) and finding or "fancying" a new gasket for the Coleman. I am 58 yo now so this was quite a few years/decades ago.

Great video Brad, I really enjoy the retro or vintage camping. I think you will really enjoy the Coleman after some minor maintenance. For the last several years I have gone that direction to a more low-tech approach. But then I grew up in the 60's so it's maybe more nostalgic as I grew up using the old gear.

When I was growing up back in the 60's & 70's, many of the older Green Machines had schrader bike tire valve stems installed to replace the charging pumps mechanism. I'd seen folks using the small bicycle pumps to pump them up and also, compressed air tanks…they cranked out some serious BTUs…Might even give the JetBoils a run for their money… Thanks HMCM! Ol' Scooter (HMCS) in East Texas

I use a vintage Coleman, but bought a propane converter so I dont have to mess with camp stove fuel. Its a great stove

@rickpierson8460

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same I love it I bought the stove for $10 the adapter $14 and mine is a 3 burner

I was 5 in '64 when my dad bought a brand spankin' new Wagoneer. We usually camped at Tuolumne Meadows just outside Yosemite, or Death Valley. I still have the stove we used, just like your green one. That white gas is great if you don't mind huffin' 'n puffin to build up pressure. HOWEVER... somewhere out there in internet land, you ought to be able to find an adapter made just for those stoves to accommodate the propane cans you use. I bought mine nearly 30 years ago and don't remember if it was made by Coleman. But I know they're out there. I've got a couple of those lamps too. Maybe that white gas still needs to be used, but that background "white noise" of the whoosh sound coming from them is all part of the experience... and memories! My Jeep is a '59 Wagon btw. Love your channel!

Good to see so many positive views on the big old green machine. We still use ours on our 2nd one now think being able to fuel up from our car was handy. Its a bit of a fuss to use till you get the hang of it.

I have an Old Coleman stove that my Mother-in-law used when she was Camping from the 1960's to the late 1990's. she gave it to my wife who used it every time she went camping. we love the sound it makes and the old old lantern we have as well (we actually had a newer model but it didn't make the hissing sound that is so much a part of camping, so we found an old one). My wife and I have enjoyed watching your videos through the years, we bought a Ram truck almost 2 years ago (after driving a Jeep for over 10 years and trail riding with The Jeep Junkies up here in Alberta), so when you switched to a truck i was curious to see the places you would be going to. i look forward to more of your product reviews and your travels. If you are ever up in Alberta Canada, we be happy to take you up the mountains here and in British Columbia.

@mtlassen1516

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Totally agree, the sound the stove and especially the lanterns is soothing! Really like the sound it makes when it’s struggling a little bit probably sucking up some debris. The lantern sound, and the sound of the zippers on tent, sleeping bag and clothes bags! Just awesome!

I have had 2 old Coleman stoves - 1 was yard sale find, the other one was my Dad's he used with my older brothers Boy Scout troops. I had a cheap Northwest Territory KMART stove after those but my current stove is a Camp Chef Everest. I love it.

@jeffreya8329

2 жыл бұрын

@@adidas4275 would you say it’s better than a Coleman ?

@gunstanksplanes9001

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe Camp Chef hasn't come out with their own version. Price would be in the middle and quality same or better than Jet Boil.

Had my Coleman white gas stove for 40 years and I love it. Never let me down.

Still using my 1972 Coleman stove for 40 years. But I picked up the kit to use propane. Love it it one of my prize possession now along with the lantern.

Talking about a flexible hose, my dad's old Coleman propane stove (similar to your vintage one there) has a flexible hose on it. It's decent and has lasted probably upwards of 35 years. They should use those again!

@tjclarke4604

Жыл бұрын

I think it has something to do with code. For example, you can only run a flex hose to a gas dryer, but not a hot water tank or furnace. I believe it is a similar story with stoves, it needs to be rigid now. But what you modify after you buy it is up to you, heheh. ;)

I have been using a 70 year old Colman white gas stove for 30 years. Would have loved to see how it stacked up against any of the propane stoves. It has always been a great camp stove, and seems to work better in colder weather than my buddy's propane version. One nice thing about your propane stoves though, is ability to put a larger frying pan on them. The only problem is the windscreen on my old "suitcase" stove is that it limits the size of skillet you can use.

We absolutely love vintage camp gear! Great find & that’ll look awesome with your Setup. We enjoy your videos.

Great video, can’t wait to see the old stove light up - Mahalo from Maui, HI!

I have the "old" big green Coleman... every time I go camping I want to drive over it with my Jeep :)

My dad had a Coleman stove and lantern for over 50 years, finally sold it in a garage sale. Never failed us but we kept it clean like knew and took care of. The gaskets need to be oiled to keep them soft and working. Pumping sucked though lol.

The price point difference is unbelievable. Love the product review!

Thank you for posting. Great video! I look forward to watching others.

The difference in heating time might be the distance between the grating and flame. Looked like the Coleman grating is higher.

@garretlewis4103

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@brianjensen6724

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@kimpbay

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I came to say

@sapperveteran245

2 жыл бұрын

Cooktop height can make a big difference.

@tompfender8732

2 жыл бұрын

The height difference between grate and burner is the “problem”. Just came back from a trip and a friend had the Coleman and the distance from grate to burner was a killer with a breeze blowing. Made the unit essentially unusable. Five minutes and still couldn’t get enough heat on the pan to cook eggs!

Don’t forget to check the gasket on the fuel filler cap. The older they are, the more likely they are to harden with age. Once that happens the tank won’t seal sufficiently to accept the pressure you’re pumping into the tank.

I still use my vintage Coleman 413H bought in 1978 and it still works great. Main burner rated 14k btu and aux burner 11k btu. I have only had to replace the pump one time. I still have the receipt paid $46.95 and is good enough for me. It is somewhat big but I always manage to fit it in.

My dad had that old coleman. Lots of good memories, and I can remember the sound and smell 45 years later.

I grew up camping with the "vintage" Coleman stove. For the right $$, it's good enough. No need to re-invent the wheel.

Love seeing that old Coleman. Think we still have ours from when I was growing up. Those things are great when a storm comes along and knocks out power. When they are working right they last longer than the new fuel options. The folding camp stoves it looks too me like the Coleman's issue might be the distance between the flame and the coffee pot. Thanks for the video Brad.

I use the old Coleman gas items over any propane item. Nothing beats the nostalgia & sound of old Coleman stoves & lanterns. My little 1966 Coleman 502 is one of the best little stoves I ever had

Fantastic informative compact camp stove review. The old Coleman was just great to see brought back great memories.

Great review! I was just hoping you could address this. One of my biggest complaints when it comes to "trailer" stoves is that they say they are either 2 burner or 3 burner stoves; but in reality, I can only place 1 pan on those at a time...I was wonder if either of the fold and go's can be simultaneously used on real size pots and pans?

Darn, I wanted to see how the vintage Coleman did against the newer versions of stoves

@semperfi-1918

2 жыл бұрын

I have 3 of those old things bought cheap as well... uses both white gas and regular fuel. Does really well as well. The older stove maintained will outpace anything made new.

Great review. Really helped me. And I love the vintage camping equipment collection! Brings back a lot of great memories growing up camping with my family, and scouts.

@TrailRecon

2 жыл бұрын

I love the nostalgia factor of the old gear and equipment. It just takes you back!

I bought an old Coleman 3 burner stove from a garage sale about 16 years ago. I couldn’t pass it up. It was before everyone used EBay as their price guide to sell used stuff so I got it for a very reasonable price. I love that stove. It even came with a propane adapter and a stand. I’m cleaning it now while I watch ur vid. Good times :)

If I camped as much as Brad I’d probably go with that Jetboil, I like how it packs away in the pots. For me, I’ll keep using my old Coleman briefcase despite it being more work to use.

@jeffreyplumber1975

2 жыл бұрын

actually its pretty slick and I really like that stove , Gotta be honest all 3 impress me I have a 425 from 1976 just used it yesterday in Big Sur its well used bought it new! I reall wanted to see the 425 fire up

Hey Brad. I bought a Stansport 30” flexible hose. This replaces the fixed copper tube and allows me to position the propane in different positions. But remember to always have it upright as it’s the gas on top of the liquid fuel that needs to pass through the regulator. As an aside, I think the Genesis family are the only jetboil stoves that use propane. All the others use butane-based fuels (like isobutane).

@TrailRecon

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will have to look into that!

@madman432000

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention that he can get a flex hose that screws onto the court tube too, then connect that too fuel source.

@wbowser1

2 жыл бұрын

Did the same thing. Works great.

Oh My the old stove. I've seen those as a kid. Main memory from those was the fire ball Dad would always end up getting from it. what a relief that first propane stove was for my Mom.

I've got a coleman 413g that I use exclusively when I tour. I love it so much more than propane. I love that I don't have to carry pressurized fuel and I love how it simmers compared to propane. It's a little annoying to get it going until you've learned how but after you do its just as easy as propane.

The Colemans burner is a little further away than the jet boil which may matter some I believe. I love your videos!

@thomasnewbery7449

2 жыл бұрын

I second that!

You need to lubricate the plunger with light oil ( 3n1 or cooking oil) it works like an old tire pump you have to keep the plunger lubricated. I am in my 70 and have cooked lots of meals on the Colman white gas stoves. BUT today I use a one burner induction cooktop (Electric) cleaner, cheaper and safer than gas ( propane or white gas)

@vincentdsnt

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly ! Like an old tire pump or even a Daisy B.B. gun the oil hole is in the end cap of the Coleman stove and lamps. I am Coleman only they work in extremely cold weather!

@amccj7842

2 жыл бұрын

You can also stand the plunger up straight into a cap full of motor oil. Let it sit for an hour and you will be pleasantly surprised.

That old Coleman stove takes me back. Dad used one in the late 90's. I remember the old seals going out on it, so you got real experience lol.

Nice review. We used the Coleman camp stove for many years when we tent camped from 1980 thru pop-up camping in 2005 or so. Then we got a Fold N Go soon after they came out maybe 10 years ago and it came with a bag that also holds two 1 lb. propane cylinders. The Camp Stove always had better heat from the right side compared to the left side. So we got in the habit of cooking things first on the right, then moving to the left and then starting something else cooking on the right. We made it work. The Fold N Go has the same heat on both sides. We don't camp anymore, but use the Fold N Go for picnics and other outdoor activities. Works great. The Jet Boil looks cool, is a better stove, but as you pointed out, you can buy three of the Fold N Go's for one of the Jet Boils. Not surprised the pump seal on the Camp Stove dry rooted, but hope you can find a replacement easily. I think it's cool that you're outfitting the vintage Jeep with period correct gear. Maybe a wooden canoe for the roof? Safe Travels and God Bless!

Great vid but what’s up the Cherokee Chief?

i have a lot of coleman stoves including a 413C, and it's a blowtorch. It's as fast as my buddy's jetboil. Oh, also they changed the tank color to red in 1958, so yours is pre that. Ok I just finished. Did you try taking off the gas cap to see if the tank has pressure or not, after pumping? If it's not pressurizing, use Neatsfoot oil on the leather. That leather is fine i'm sure. Just needs some oil. If that doesn't solve it, the gasket in the fuel cap is bad. That's a problem on every old coleman gas cap. You can find a replacement on oldcolemanparts for a buck. One way to test is to swap the fuel cap off your 220 lantern there, it is the same size fuel cap. If the lantern is holding pressure, it should help you test. If none of that works, then the check valve in the pump is gummed up and needs to be cleaned/replaced. They're fun to fettle and it's rewarding!

I still use my old vintage style Colman. I have two of them. One I converted to propane, the other is original " dual fuel". Both work great and have cooked many meals for us.

Great video pal! I love the passion for the antique. We learned how to use those, and the lanterns in army cadets. 38 year old me is grateful for the 12 year old me nostalgia!

Wait, did I miss something? When did the old chief turn green?

Great detailed comparison Brad 👍 Loving the cherokee chief in the background

@TrailRecon

2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@gearlist

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrailRecon 😎

I'm 63 and have eaten off of coleman stoves since I was a little kid. I still use a Coleman three burner that is probably about 40 years old. Many great meals for the family. I hope you have gotten it running because they really are great.

That was VERY helpful. I'm with you. Fold and go. And I have an FJ cruiser. Even less room than a jeep. I like the jet better but not 180 dollars better. Love the product reviews. Save us from making costly mis buys. So thanks Brad. Non bias product reviews are king.

Like you said, Brad, only three extra mins and more than 1/3 the cost…. Coleman is the way to go.

@jakecarruthers6513

2 жыл бұрын

Only three extra minutes for one liter. That means the Coleman took 80% more time. That could mean some real time savings on larger volumes of water.

@joerivs80

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakecarruthers6513 yes, but when camping, just how much do you need to boil? I won’t be cooking for a restaurant. Plus I’m out there to relax anyways so three mins is nothing. And yet those three mins saves me 2/3 the money? I’ll take the Coleman and relax and enjoy sitting for a few extra mins while camping alone or with my woman.

@jakecarruthers6513

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool. Time is money. Time is memories. The point is, it's statistically significant. Likely burns less gas too. Sure, it's not for everyone, but it adds up. While you and your woman are watching water boil, my water will be done, and I won't have missed the sunrise, sunset, watching a wild animal walk by, etc. Peace.

Excellent video thank you Sir I have a colman duel fuel stove that is very cool. After watching your review I may get the jet boil genisis as well.

Very true there Mark. me and my brother liked to camp in the back 40. scramble eggs where amazing. the good ole days.

Nice review. I'm more a backpacker than an overlander, but I do car camp with my wife on occasion. I subscribed as soon as you gave a glimpse of the period-correct camping gear to match your vehicle.

I have the Coleman 425E stove. No folding legs, 4 bumps on the bottom. Also, the grate is hinged. About 45 years old. Not only cooked 100's of meals, I use it to melt lead for casting bullets for my muzzleloaders. Perfect design. I also have 2 single mantle lanterns.

All this Stove talk has kicked in my nostalgia. Haven't used my gear in long time (traveled by motorcycle) have to give that up so back to 4 wheels and bigger gear... now I can't wait.

GREAT VIDEO BRAD. I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL. I ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING NEW. PLEASE CONTINUE TO SPEAK YOUR TRUTH.

Great comparison. When looking at type of use you are correct. Hikers need smaller units, Overlanding vehicles can go a little bigger, camper trailers, rvs, can go with medium to full grills. Thanks for also pointing out the size impact of the propane tanks/bottles.

Found a Coleman lantern in the woods when I was camping, looked like it had been there for a while. Took it back to camp and pulled the weeds out of it and wipe it off just a bit. Mantels were still good, had fuel in it, so I pumped it up and light it. Worked great. That was 35 years ago and I still have it and the one I brought with me that day.

My wife and I took our Coleman pump stove around the USA with two kids under 6 in the 1990's. It cooked all our food on the way and never let us down. Every time I fire it up the smell just brings back so many happy memories. And yep, sometimes I light it for that reason alone.

Bought a near new Coleman 35 yrs ago for $10 and have never regretted it since then I inherited my dads old Coleman that's at least 65 yrs old and still works great, granted I wouldn't want to backpack it but I'm 71 and that ship has sailed. Still great stoves.

I grew up cooking on one of those old Coleman stoves - good times!

I had the same problem with my Coleman liquid gas stove many years ago. Pull the oil dipstick out of your car and use the oil on it to rub into the stove seal. Mine had a leather seal. Worked for years after.

That old Coleman brings back some great memories. My father had one that was in the scout, waking up in the morning and having eggs and hash browns was the best food ever,

Excellent Video !!! I have been wanting to learn more about stoves such as these 👍👍

I've got that same old Coleman stove. Mine is circa 1968 and works flawlessly. It may not boil water in 4 minutes, but I love it.