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These trucks are way more realistic than some 85k truck
@EricPach
Жыл бұрын
I just can't see how people would want to work out of a 85k truck. I'd be like bubble wrapping everything I put in the bed and shit , f that
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
Always owned at least 200k usually only 500$ tow anything
@outdoorlifemaine6691
Жыл бұрын
I hear a lot of people saying that and it's mostly because they can't afford it the racing the prices on pickups because pickup truck is a work truck
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
@@outdoorlifemaine6691 no pickups haul groceries. Work . Off-road. Drag. Scrap hauler. It's black white and grey
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
Жыл бұрын
85k is a half ton gasser. 3/4 or 1 ton diesels are over 100k
You did many things right in this video. Camera, audio were good. The only thing that gives you a big minus is the negative comments on the Dodge. Sounds to me you wanted to plant seeds for failure no matter what the results were. I have had both trucks Dodge and Ford. I would suggest (since you are the reviewer) keeping personal feelings out of the picture and let the viewers watch. Neither one is great but overall I pick the Dodge. The reason? Looks, power, comfort and towing. The Ford was good too in its own ways.
@GrumpyMonkeyGarage
Жыл бұрын
So I owned both trucks and used them for a period of time to get a personal opinion. I got stranded, wallet assaulted, and trouble out of the dodge, where as the Ford, simply worked. I choose a Tundra any day over both these toilets, but Tundras cost big money, so for the cheap, I'd say it depends on what you are doing with it, as shown in the video. Thanks for the comment
@forthefunofit5487
Жыл бұрын
@@GrumpyMonkeyGarage OK got to respect that. Question .........who are the two people that were with you on the video??
@oldrango883
Жыл бұрын
@@GrumpyMonkeyGaragereviewing clapped out trucks will never give you solid respectable results. I have an ‘05 and towed with no squat. Oh, maybe cause I actually maintain my truck.
@lieut.griffin6904
Жыл бұрын
@@GrumpyMonkeyGarage Honestly that 4.7L that Dodge made wasn't a very good motor. They produced quite a bit of power, but they just don't last unless they are babied. (often have overheating issues resulting in cracked blocks) The 5.2L and the 5.9L were very good motors. They just stopped producing the 5.9Ls because after 2003 they just couldn't pass emissions.
@hardcorvancour
Жыл бұрын
@@lieut.griffin6904 i have a 02 5.9 for 6 years and have put 5000 miles on it and i have only put about $2000 in to it yes it is a good truck 🙂
On the ford, looked like the trailer was putting too much weight on the hitch. If you had room to move the car back on the trailer a bit more I think that would have greatly improved the handling. I've towed quite a bit with my 97 F-150 extended cab and I found load placement to greatly impact stability.
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
Fords have heavier rear end only reason they don't break traction easy
@scottyellis3442
Жыл бұрын
Yes he had the car way to far up on the trailer.
@forthefunofit5487
Жыл бұрын
@@rosslefave5877 where did you hear this?
@71sc502
Жыл бұрын
@@forthefunofit5487as a chevy guy, ford makes the best rear end out of the big 3 overall
@markfrasure352
13 күн бұрын
I have hauled way more with my 97 f150 as in hauled a f150 with the f150 with no problems lol
Also, as someone who saw their old man own a 2000 model 4.7 dodge, you bag on them wayy too much, they don't just magically die like you act... my adoptive father didn't change a major component for 400k miles on his 4.7... either of these 2 trucks can last 400k miles without abusing them, and yes, he towed with his, all the way up to a 86 ford hippievan e150 weighing probs 7000lbs.
@doublegrant6144
Жыл бұрын
i agree everytruck has problems its a part of life.
@SleezyRaidz
Жыл бұрын
@@doublegrant6144 I just think he bagged on the Dodge way too much, damn thing did everything the Ford did, but better and he was still saying buy the ford... Not to mention half the early 2000s Ford's will literally blow the plugs out the cylinder heads and you will have to helicoil them lol
@doublegrant6144
Жыл бұрын
@@SleezyRaidz i agree, also can what about the 6.4 Powerstroke lmao. Only ford can make an engine only last 30k miles
@Juandongduck
2 ай бұрын
All of the 4.7 rams I drove felt way underpowered. I did think the wiper issue was funny since I see ford's with that problem way more. ( not a manufacturer specific problem obviously)
I don't know where you can buy that dodge for $1500 today. I'm seeing that selling in the $4000-$6000 range. I been looking for a nice $10,000 4x4 truck for the last 3 years and haven't been able to find anything that I thought was close to being worth 10k.
@oldrango883
Жыл бұрын
Kinda shows you what level this guy is on. He’s running these clapped out trucks 😂.
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
@@oldrango883I agree my 500$ 98 ram V6 is much better
@sstroh08
Жыл бұрын
Yeah no doubt was thinking that too..... Let's go Brandon.....
I'd still buy the Dodge anydy, but I am biased. #teamDodge
@2Years2Farm
Жыл бұрын
I’m with you! Chevy and dodge gang!
@mattgray6436
Жыл бұрын
Too bad they are terrible for build quality
@AA-eg4fp
Жыл бұрын
@@mattgray6436as if Ford is better quality lol
@noonecares7730
Жыл бұрын
@@AA-eg4fpit really just depends on what year you get for any of the big three. I prefer obs Chevy's or 2nd gen dodges. Those Ford's are good, but I think they're incredibly ugly.
@scottyellis3442
Жыл бұрын
@@2Years2Farmjunk & junk. I've owned all three & Ford is way better than the other two jokes.
Sorry, I have to disagree with your comments. My '04 Ram 1500 is my daily driver and is also used to tow our 24-foot camper (3k+ Lbs.) and I've had no bad electrical problems... Engine, trans and rear end are just fine... Had a slight over heating problem once, but that's because a radiator hose started leaking. I can't speak to the Ford, but my Dodge is a keeper
@Texas12valve
Жыл бұрын
I'm a dodge/ram guy all the way. But dodge has always had terrible electronics. My mom had a 04 ram 2500 diesel and it was littered with electrical issues. My 94 ram 2500 has electrical issues, but it's older so no surprise. My dad's 2012 ram 2500 has electrical issues. My 17 ram 1500 is so far so good.
@ronruba9147
Жыл бұрын
@@Texas12valve Sorry to hear about the problems... This is the 3rd Dodge Ram I've owned. 1989 W100, 1999 D100 and now this one. No electrical problems, but the 99 D100 had leaking freeze plugs which kept shorting out the starter. Technically an electrical problem I guess
@Texas12valve
Жыл бұрын
@@ronruba9147 every brand has their problems. I'm still gonna buy rams
haven't commented on youtube in years, but these videos are awesome. I'm up in New england and I work in the film industry and I've been a freelance editor and all that sh****t or whatever before. So I appreciate the cinematic aspect of your videos without them being over produced.
Ram is the better truck all around. Both trucks have their issues. Ram is more reliable and tows better. You see old Rams on the road for a reason. Rarely see old Fords on the road.
@GrumpyMonkeyGarage
Жыл бұрын
I don't know where you live, but here in the south, Ford's are absolutely everywhere in various states and conditions. This generation of Ram is around often, but the 90s rams are all gone or most of them
@bradleywilliams4180
Жыл бұрын
@@GrumpyMonkeyGarageI'm in about the middle of NC and there are 90-2010 dodges everywhere and still decent amounts of ford's but not as many. We have had several dodges and got to drive some ford's of friends and family and fords have always felt really cheep and break alot and yes the dodges still have their flaws but we have not had any electronic problems with any dodges.
@user-oy9pe8wp1n
3 ай бұрын
You got it backwards did you not see the truck did not shut off when he took the key out and the dodge needs a new engine every 3 years 😂
@Juandongduck
2 ай бұрын
Lol, just all of the way wrong.
I got lucky with my find but I found a 05 ram 128k miles 5.7 hemi 1500 everything in works amazing I put a shift kit in the transmission and a high flow oil pump in the motor I tow 10000 lbs all the time and it works great transmission works great no leaks all electronics work interior is in great condition it even came with a 6in fabtec lift I will say that occasionally when I go over a bad bump the wiper will come on for no reason I drove a 350 mile trip to Nebraska (maxed at 75mph on cruise control) on 1 tank of gas - great truck for 2000 bucks I think
Idk why the 4.7 Mopar gets so much hate...my uncles 06 has been super reliable with over 250k mi on it and my mom's 02 had 100k mi on it with no engine trouble when she sold it. If you actually change your oil and maintain it they're pretty good little engines.
@alexgrindnshine2522
6 ай бұрын
If I didn’t know anything about cars I would think the 4.7 is POS accord to the internet lol. Don’t over heat it and it is a really reliable engine. Worked as mechanic for 12 years rarely had to fix the 4.7 for anything more then a water pump or broken exhaust manifold bolts. Few head jobs due to over heating. I like the 4.6 2v from ford but it has more issues then the 4.7 mopar
Entertaining video and I know you hate RAM. I grew up in Ford F150s and i bought Ford's up until 2015. Depending on the model year Ford I had, somtimes I spent more money keeping them running than the monthly payment. I bought a new ram 1500 in 2015 and still driving it. Replaced battery at year seven. Minus airbag recalls, not one single failure at 141000 miles. A truck will last longer just doing basic maintenance regardless of the brand.
I'm not much on making comments on youtube. BUT, when you start off a video comparison and stating one is a "giant piece of junk" how can you expect any viewer to respect your opinion when you are already reflecting a bias opinion? We all have brand preferences. We all have had different experiences from one brand to another. I will say my family, and I have four siblings, has had phenomenal success with Mopar brand products. BUT, many other people and families have not. Same goes for Ford and GM. Let me say I am not just commenting for the Dodge bashing either. If this was a GM vs. Ford I would be turned off by the beginning of this video as well. I have owned all of the Big Three and very much respect each one. Each one has made phenomenal strides and constantly keep rising to the occasion when their competitors best them. I shall end this comment with this, it's great we have channels such as this one comparing inexpensive trucks, such as these. I did watch the entire video and in my opinion the video was ended in a respectful manner, minus a couple of bias opinions which I respect an individual's opinion. Keep the videos coming. I subscribed and I will keep watching.
I’ll at least say I’m glad to see that you guys got the better engine for the F-150. That 4.6 is so much better than the 5.4.
@ivanluna7352
Жыл бұрын
The 5.4 from that era was good. It's essentially the 4.6 but bigger. The 5.4 3v is the one that sucks.
@ericgibson3085
Жыл бұрын
I would say the 5.4 in that specific generation is the better engine and this challenge they’ve loaded the trailer wrong causing a bunch of tongue weight causing the steering to be unstable
@themopar426
Жыл бұрын
good luck with the spark plugs!
@rhekman
Жыл бұрын
@@themopar426 First gen was fine; properly torqued they'd stay put forever. It was the 3 and 4 valve heads from 2003-4 with small threads, then up to 2007 with the two piece plugs that had the most issues.
@enjoythesho1992
Жыл бұрын
@@ivanluna7352not all 5.4 3v suck mine has over 250k still going strong the only problem with them was timming chain/cam phasers if you properly maintain them they don't have any issues and the ones that had that problem was first year 3vs including the 4.6 they both shared the same issues
I have a 98 Dodge with 297,000 me still has the original motor and transmission in front row and rear end so I don't know why people say that Dodgers are not reliable and it gets 20 miles to a gallon on the highway at 70 mph it has a 5.2 Magnum and it's four-wheel drive extended cab
@Michael-B41
20 сағат бұрын
people always say the i have an 05 hemi runs great uses no oil at 237k. but every ford trition ive owned hasnt made it a month without blowing plugs or head gaskets particularly the 4.6 l
@Michael-B41
20 сағат бұрын
maybe its just i picked bad ones also. depends on how well its taken care of as well
I will say though that the Dodge 5.9 L Magnum V8 is a pretty reliable engine in my opinion. Not good on gas but lasts longer than today's junk
@GrumpyMonkeyGarage
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, and in my 3rd gen dodge truck review that was one of my favorite engines!
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
The 12 valve was great but only the magnum 12v Cummins are Junk
@hardcorvancour
Жыл бұрын
i have a 02 5.9 its a great truck iv had for 5 years still going strong
@bigboyz3132
Жыл бұрын
Ive got a 97 ram with a 5.9 magnum more reliable than my 2012 subaru
@Racc506
Жыл бұрын
@@rosslefave5877the 12v was Cummins.. the 5.9 magnum wasn’t a 12v engine.
As a current owner of a 99 4.6 Ford expedition and a previous owner of a 98 5.2 Dodge Ram. I'd easily choose the Ram for hauling and the Ford for driving. However I had an abusive relationship with the Dodge, and finally came to my senses with the Ford.
@remingtonwells7286
Жыл бұрын
I must say this, Your comparison is lacking. I feel it would be fairly obvious that the Dodge pickup would tow better than a full size SUV. Not trying too be negative just an observation 🤘
@GamerBoy-ye2op
Жыл бұрын
@remingtonwells7286 the ford expedition shares the same frame and engine has the f150
@remingtonwells7286
Жыл бұрын
@@GamerBoy-ye2op Yes it may share the same frame but an F150 has more leaf springs. and higher load capacity. Not really a fair comparison.
@remingtonwells7286
Жыл бұрын
@@GamerBoy-ye2op And an F150 has multiple different engine options aswell lol. not just “the same”
I find it difficult to take this seriously when you have 20-plus year old vehicles and you're blaming the manufacturer for wiring stuff when you really don't know what the past customers have done to that thing. Don't get me wrong. Dodge is known for shitty electricals but you can't exactly blame the manufacturer when it's a twenty-year-old vehicle and you have no idea what's been done to it
I’d like to see all the full size pick ups in this test but you won’t find a Silverado or Tundra with those miles anywhere near those prices 😅 Silverado with 220k: $6,000 Tundra with 220k: $7,000
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Man I always forget how big this gen of Ram were when they came out...my mom had an 02 Ram 1500 and it DWARFED my dad's 2000 Sierra. The RAM in this video also dwarfs the F150. Now this old Ram looks tiny compared to the newer trucks. Crazy how damn unnecessarily big light duty trucks have gotten over the years.
Team Ford all the way. Interior of that 98 makes me miss my 99 Expedition with the 5.4. Sold it still runnin strong with 230K on it.
I had an 03 F150 that towed one of those 6x12 u hauls with when i moved loaded to the absolute brim and the whole package was very stable on the highway going 70-80. My biggest complaint about the experience would have been the brakes, but that is partially my fault as i put on the cheapest pads that i could find.
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
I had a 00 with one rear brake great fun driving in Detroit but it was the V6 and stick
@scottyellis3442
Жыл бұрын
Those F150's will tow anything you want, it goes back to how you load the trailer. He had that car way to far up on that trailer, if he had moved it back a foot-foot& a half it would have been a lot better. He practically had all the weight of the car on the truck & very little on the trailer.
@GamerBoy-ye2op
Жыл бұрын
My dad's freind got our chevy express and a enterprise out of a foot of snow
I would honestly take either one of them over any new pile of electronic junk.
I worked for a local school district for 35 years. Plowed snow for 30years. Went through 5 trucks four F 350's one GMC 3500. I have to say those Fords were awesome. They sat out in the winter and never failed to start never even in some Brutal winters. Raise that eight foot western no sag the plow just came up. Sit a skid of rock salt in the bed 49 50lb bags nothing did not make a difference in how the truck handled accelerated they were just good trucks. My favorite was a 1992 with a 460 automatic 4 10 axles loved it a true work truck. Pulled Tractors around the district pulled 13,000 pound band trailers all over with them all . The GMC was a 1997 350 auto not sure on the axles and while it was a Good truck my only complaint was the suspension was a little to soft. It didn't haul as good as the Fords and the front would sag when you raised the plow. People said we could crank up the torsion bars, but in my opinion when you buy a work truck it should be ready to work from the factory. Especially if you order it as we did tow and plow package.
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
Ford always been superior in tq even boats the Chevy might pass after a mile
@sstroh08
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. This is anecdotal evidence of course, but most people I know that had the Chevys weren't fans of the independent front suspension they had. It's not a bad idea. Chevy trying to make their heavy duty trucks ride better. They just didn't build them heavy enough. I think they're better now on the newer ones, but late 90s early 2000s not so much. Gold's front end was just a solid axle and leaf springs. Right out of the 50s and 60s kind of thing. Rode horrible, but was tough as nails as you pointed out.
Well I've had all 3 main brand trucks and in my opinion Dodge has been the best and most reliable for me. The Ford transmission was always breaking and the Chevy well Its probably easier to tell you what wasn't wrong with it 😂. I currently have a 04 Dodge 5.7 hemi and I love it much better truck then the other 2 from my experience
@selfcarefordudes
Жыл бұрын
Me too. He rags on Ram as if Ford and GM aren’t even worse. Rams have been good to us. I see old Rams on the road all the time.
@oldrango883
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy really hates Dodge to the point it makes his videos lame. Honestly, after watching g a few of his videos he’s a shade tree mechanic and he’s running ragged out vehicles!
@seanbutler2291
Жыл бұрын
I keep telling people Brand bias/loyalty only benefits the manufacturer and hurts the customer. You go by the year, and what has been proven reliable. Each of the Brand's had their good years and there bad. If your brand bias or you have brand loyalty, your manufacturer doesn't have to be innovative they know you'll buy no matter what
@dylanowens3173
Жыл бұрын
You either got the most rare dodge ever made or are bs'n. Dodges of those years and even now are pure junk when rolled off the line. Where the gmc, Chevy of the same years are still on the road by the millions and most dodges are crushed already.
@joshc606
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanowens3173exactly, father in law had an 02 Ram and went through 2 transmissions before selling it with 140k.
The 4.6 in those Ford's are indestructible. With regular maintenance that is...... Lol
Your trailer axles sit pretty far back, flip the car around and the truck will squat less, shouldn't sway with how far back your axles are.
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
The car is crushed tho
What transmission's, differential gear ratio's and what was the leaf spring count on each truck? Those all have contributing factors to the towing capabilities of each truck.
Salvage yard owner here. My vote will be this Ford 100% of the time. I buy these on the scale, running trucks, with 300k+ miles all the time. Reason people scrap them is because those bodies rot out so badly. The Dodge never drive in the yard. Towed in because their trans are junk.
Haha, love the video!
Well I can say I’ve owned 3 Ford Expeditions! My first one was a 1997 with a 4.6 triton! Which is very reliable and decent on gas for a V8 real good low in torque! Now when it comes to pulling I have to say the 5.4 2V triton is a beast! I still currently own two 1999 Ford Expeditions! I love the first generation! The 4.6 and 5.4 is night and day difference with power and torque! I think the Expedition pulls and tows a lot better than a F150 around the same year! I got over 300,000 miles on one of my 5.4 and it’s still very strong and responsive! Great trucks!
I don't really care for fords that much, but I'd rather have the Ford over anything that's got a Chrysler 4.7L in it. If the Dodge had a 5.9 or a 5.2L I'd rather have the Dodge.
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
The V6 is best
These guys need more credit. videos are quality content u don’t see that in shorter amounts of subscriber counts videos !💪🏼💪🏼
Boy! It REALLY pained you to say the Dodge won! 😂
I have a 2003 my uncle owned it for 20 years and I just bought it and I've done all the work on it so I knew everything still has original everything but spark plugs and coils it's how you take care of you vehicle is how it last and it still runs like a new truck
You would be surprised what a f150 can do or any f series it’s impressive
@richyg3993
Жыл бұрын
Especially the new F-150, 3.5 Eco-boost. Damn near towing diesel numbers.
@nateg08
Жыл бұрын
@@richyg3993I've got the 3.5 eb lariat with max tow package. I love my truck.
@richyg3993
Жыл бұрын
@@nateg08 nice! I have a 07 Cummins 5.9. 149k. Pulls like a train! But I want a newer EB. But I don’t want to sell my dodge…very tempted to, idk haha
@nateg08
Жыл бұрын
@richyg3993 my dodge was a good truck but I gotta say I'm thoroughly impressed with that 3.5. It's a beast for a half ton truck.
@richyg3993
Жыл бұрын
@@nateg08 I never towed anything crazy with an EB. Just seeing the numbers on paper. Does it tow better than the older Cummins?
Awesome video, love the realism. Although those are 2 different generations of trucks. The challenge was catered to the dodge. Longer wheel base, larger truck in general. That ford had way too much tongue weight for the shorter wheelbase. I remember doing some towing in a 99 exactly like that one with my dad years ago and that thing never skipped a beat. That wasn’t exactly apples to apples comparison. I know the price you were trying to stay under is why but I’d revisit this challenge with quad cab to quad cab. Makes a world of difference
"You gotta put a new engine in every 3 years" MMMMM No, I own an 02 1500 SLT crew cab with the 4.7, 80k miles, same engine (4.7) and transmission (45RFE), and she gets ran HARD. Zero issues with the engine & transmission, basic maintenance. The only issue I have is that the dashboard is cracked to shit and the oil pressure switch randomly decides it nologer has oil pressure, it does, its an electrical thing.
Always have been a big Ford fan but last time around couldn’t afford an F-150 with the equipment I would need so I bought a Ram (I still call them Dodge) the pulling of the thing is amazing. Like a 3/4 ton diesel in the early 2000’s but sadly it still has many of Dodge issues. Windows go down without being told. Needs a top end rebuild at 90k miles. I love it and also realize that it ain’t gonna be with me as long as my Ford and GMC trucks were.
From someone who has a 2005 SLT 4.7 ram I’ve only had to change the motor once and that’s because the neutral switch failed and I thought it was the motor. They aren’t that bad in reliability
@brandonsvlog8533
Жыл бұрын
4.7’s are good engines if you take care of them mainly clean oil and clean coolant and they’ll run a long time
@oldrango883
Жыл бұрын
@@brandonsvlog85334.7 is a solid motor
@oldrango883
Жыл бұрын
Mine has about 168k on it and never any major repairs other than what I have upgraded.
@dustindugas4195
Жыл бұрын
I just dropped another 4.7 in a 04 ram that I bought from its previous owner who had blown the engine but the engine I got had 93k on it and now it's probably got 100k and it feels like a brand new one. Ram trucks are reliable as long as you take care of them just like any other but I had a previous 4.7 ram I sold that was an 03 and I miss that thing all the time almost 300k on it and ran like a champ
@rosslefave5877
Жыл бұрын
I'll take the 98 V6 any day
My buddy had that exact dodge but with the 5.7 hemi. That truck was bullet proof. He beat the shit out of it taking wood cutting in the mountains and pull a 8k pound toy haller every weekend. He towed that over 7000’ mountain passes about 10000 miles a year of towing for 10 years. Never died trans lived too.
@GrumpyMonkeyGarage
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We have a Hemi review on our channel you'll enjoy. Go check it out, thanks for the comment!
The most US thing I've seen today: 4 fricken "STOP" signs on a 4-way junction .... roundabouts would solve so much problems there.
2005 vs 1998 it makes a world of difference rack and pinion vs gear box. Good comparison but now swap the years 05 f150 and 98 dodge.
I just came across this video and I definitely had to subscribe to your channel. After hearing you referred to the Dodge as a giant piece of junk. I know your legit now. Cool videos!
My 07 Dodge has a 5.7. Absolutely been reliable. I did have a 97 f150 with a 4.2 that think got beat and still ran great
Although the dodge may have a gremlin, I would prefer it over that ford any day of the week. The trucks are too far apart in age to be fair, but as a Ford technician I can tell you run from that ford truck. I have owned 3 of that gen ford. Nothing but issues.
I have a 08 dodge 1500 5.7 with only 87,000 miles. Traded my 2004 Cadillac Seville 157,000 miles ( stupid north star engine) for it. Best trade ever
With dodge it's a year to year kinda thing I know my dad's 97 1500 put 400k+ not a single problem not even the Transmission and I have yet to have any problems out of my 05 1500 at 179 k
5:35 The Ram is making that noise because the door is open and the DRL lights are on, its intentional so you dont drain the battery and leave the headlights on
I agree, they are both junk, but I would still take the ford anyday. I had a 98 f150 4.6, sold it with 285k miles, still had the original engine/trans/rear end. Still ran and drove fine. No dodge has ever made it to 285 without a few trans and atleast one engine lol
@2Years2Farm
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I have a second gen dodge with 296k miles with the original transmission engine axels etc, and even fuel pump! They are great trucks.
@fireant1272
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My dodge 1500 has 234k original everything best truck I've owned. Had I newer Ford it needed a new timing chain at 42k miles. 4x4 stopped working at 50k it was Junk and all the rattles on the inside.
I like your challenges. I have one 2002 dodge 1500 with 5.9 magnum with 125000 and a 2015 Ram power wagon with 6.4 hemi.40000 miles I love both of them .the power wagon gets better fuel economy.
I'm happy with the older Chevys
I know this is a YMMV but both 3rd gen Rams I've had were both solid. The most annoying thing with either was the older of the two had an issue with the vent on the tank getting iced in winter making fuel filling quite a chore. I bought the 04 needed a few parts over the 5 abusive years I had it. Rad wp ps pump u joints. I had to rebuild the front end when I got it. (Big surprise I know) I beat the guts outta that truck and it always started never broke down and it had 8 owners before I bought it. My 05 only ever needed end links and u joints. Got t-boned by a dump truck after owning it for 4 years. I'd be glad to own either one. Never had any "Dodge electrical problems" either 🤷
Our 2002 ram 1500 doesn’t have that many problems just dash falling apart.
Lol stop acting like what he says about Chrysler ain’t true. The Dodge trucks are great for being a truck that’ll pull and you don’t have to care much for it. I’d get the Hemi in it so all I have to worry about is the trans when it goes out, and I mean when. Electrical issues also purge these trucks. Now on to the Ford, these things were decent at best. Styling was outdated by the year 2005, I however did like these bodies a lot but to be pair to all who see them, they aren’t one of the favorite bodies. They tend to rust and are usually falling apart around the motors. Both were great motors, the 5.4L 2V being right before the dreadful 3V. I haven’t really seen transmission problems but they are there. Just not as bad as the Explorers of the next years. All in all, I pick the Ford just because of the 4.6L.
I have one of those 4.2 v6 f150s with the manual and i have towed a full sized jaguar v12 on a trailer no problem has around 267k miles on it now
What’s crazy is they bought the 2 cheapest full size trucks they could find and complained and bashed the brand. Like yeah your paid that cheap price for a reason
My first truck was a 08 ram 4.7 had 350k and towed great
I didn't get a $2k truck , but in 2023 I got a $3500 gmc 2005 2500 4x4 short bed ex-cab 6.0l 189k miles with plow in Colorado. I had a 2005 gmc Yukon xl already and think that generation of truck is the best of all brands even over toyota. And definitely beat the dodge and ford of same year generations. Where I am in rural Colorado almost every truck big suv still on the road are 1999-2006 Chevy , gmc. There are very rarely dodges fords years 1999-2010, they just fall apart at high altitude work loads, especially the dodges.
The reason the ram gets such bad mileage is cause it makes more power than the 4.6v8 out of the Ford, my 2008 dodge ram makes over 300hp and over 325ft-lbs of torque, those 4.6 V8s are reliable but under powered, hence why they don’t use nearly as much fuel
Did you take hit the slack on the accelerator pedal? I know that seems wildly elementary but that gave made a difference I only had half pedal distance until I used zip ties now I have full travel and resistance and almost full power 😂
I did have a question. Was the ford in the video the 4.6 v8? I know the 5.4’s have a bit more power (not much) but those would probably be better to tow and haul. Idk what motor was in the dodge
😂😂 he hated the dodge then had to be honest at the end and state it won. I can tell you from personal experience, my dad drove a 2001 Durango 4.7 2wd 3:55 axle ratio and my mom drove a 4.6L 2003 2wd ford explorer 3:73 axle ratio both we used to tow are 5000lb boat. Both did it well. I will say the Durango out performed the ford. List of engine and drive train repairs needed to keep the 4.6L explorer going. Timing guides wore out at 150k miles, spark plug blow out, intake coolant cross over burst 130k, oil filter adapter leak at 120k miles, transmission failure at 165k miles. Vehicle still runs great today at 199k miles. Durango, engine repairs exhaust manifold bolts broke 135k miles. Transmission was going in an out of lock up at 65-80mph, found faulty TPS sensor at 175k miles. Cam positions sensor at 185k miles. Durango runs great has 187k miles on it. Both have received similar maintenance and care.
“Old ford you can do no wrong” Got to love the subtle at which he talks about the faults the ford has on the tow test, “ it’s got some of the common ford electrical problems” this is what it is like working in a shop with brand loyal techs. Both vehicles could have the same problems one is labeled a POS And the other is just old and to be expected. 😂🤣 I was mechanic for over 10 years and could get both of these trucks running tip top again. I personally think the dodge is better truck. Hell read the edmunds 2004-2005 used truck reviews on the dodge and the consumer rates it 4.7 start out of 5.
Iv has numerous early 2000s half ton pickups and from my experience my 04 hemi has been the best driving and towing out off all. Even with 275k miles. I’d even put it befor my 2017 ram 1500 just because my 04 holds gear way better then my 2017
16:21 Nice trailer lights.
"20" rims. Theres no getting around that" Exactly. Thats stuff that non enthusiast or auto inclined peopl dont think about and regret. I mean, you can find used sets for way cheaper than new, but the people that dont take it into consideration dont think about that or know what to look for or to see if the tires are worth buying or for how much. So many people that ask me for car advice insist on buying new for 5x the price when i find their sizes in matching pairs or sets with 75% left for 20% of what they pay for new. Idk why people ask me for advice if they wont listen to me.
You get what you pay for. I bought a 2005 Ram 1500 for $9,000 and only to to do minor maintenance when I first purchased it. I used it for construction towed heavy metal and construction equipment with no issues. You bought the same truck for $2,000. The previous owner wanted to get rid the truck cheap because it was poorly maintained and costing them money. I still own my 2005 Ram and have had no issues. It’s all about preventative maintenance.
There are so many issue with this video. The fact that there is 7 years between these two trucks is a huge non validation point.you probably cant find a 5.2l 1998 Dodge out there, and the 2005 F150 with a 4.6 is far over the $2k budget. The wheelbase is only 1" longer on the dodge, also its only 1.5" wider(overall). The cab is longer, and the box is shorter, thats it. That 5 speed transmission vs the 4 speed in the Ford makes a difference, the sway issue is too much tongue weight. Its 10% of the total weight of the trailer. The ford 4.6 has 220hp/280lbft, and that 4.7 dodge has 235hp/300lbft. Even though the numbers are both sad the advantage of extra gears and more torque will be in the dodge's court. The extra 1000lbs of empty truck makes a difference when towing.
I see you brought the whole crew from your trailer park with you. They even speak like country people but from the hood
I've had the same exact dodge for 15 years and all I've had to fix was the radio
Im highly surprised the ford kept all of its spark plugs from flying out of the hood and the headlight switch didnt catch the truck on fire 😂
@fireant1272
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That happened to my 99f150 all 8 ended up blowing out before 120k miles 😂
@manuelvelez389
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@@fireant1272 I worked at a parts store years ago and we would rent out the spark triton plug repair kit all the time. I finally had a day when I went to check on a misfire for a f150. As I chuckled about it being a triton we heard a loud bang and out came cyl 4 sparkplug through the air it was a great experience.
@fireant1272
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@@manuelvelez389 Haha yeah that's funny. Why would ford only put a few threads In the cylinder head for the spark plugs 😆 followed by the 2004+ 5.4 spark plug disaster!
@OneNationUnderGod.45
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That was only on the 5.4L Triton engines, the truck in this video has a 4.6L engine. The 4.6L engines were damn near bulletproof. Not huge powerhouses, but longevity was the key. Ford got it right with the 4.6L modular engines.
@manuelvelez389
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@@OneNationUnderGod.45 4.6 and the 6.8 have the same issue as the 5.4
Great fun, great content on comparing them!👍👍
Also the real test is to use both trucks all the time and see which one lasts longer
@dennisranck1613
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Neither.
Where did u find either of those trucks for under 2k? Especially that ram. Where I live thats 7995.00 all day long 😅. But seriously
@chrisbarnett2222
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Seriously tho!
Truck tht makes the money is better being tht said the dodge does look better and both can be fixed cheaper than the new ones and no payments
I have an 03 ram quad cab, manual 5 spd 4×4 right now theyre going for 6-7k in Alaska, more for the manual transmission because theyre rare nowadays. Of course mine needs a new 4.7 because the kid never checked the oil, drove it like he stole it and ran it dry at high rpm. Now of course im torn, do i bolt a hemi in? Or build a 4.7 with hellcat oil pump and raised compression or, do i plop a 318/ 340/ 360 in there with a carb and forget about all the sensors but the oil pressure, coolant temp etc . The dilemma is real! All will bolt in. Not sure but i think the 6.2 will bolt in as well. If i was rich id just buy a ram 3500 with the cummins deisel and manual shift to solve all my issues but alas thats not in the budget
Cheap car vid was cool. This one just kinda sounds like a dodge hurt you many moons ago.. You're still so upset about it, its like your taking it out on any dodge you can, searching for revenge over the past? i want to see more of your content, but if your doing challenges please lean more into the results of said challenges and less judgment from your past personal experiences with different rigs. there's a fine line between voicing your opinions when you feel its needed, and coming across as a preaching solicitor hoping others will follow suit, regardless of results. Raven, your awesome!! 🙃
@GrumpyMonkeyGarage
11 ай бұрын
Hey, the dodge won, and I feel that Ford is a fantastic truck. Watch my 3rd generation ram review, I had a 2003 Hemi, and I loved it! I did a whole video on the 4.7 shown here and why they're terrible. That being said, our 04 f150 4.6 company truck blew a rear end, and this old blue poop is still on the road, slowly getting some positive opinions from me about dodge.
@DopaSlides
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@DopaSlides
11 ай бұрын
@TheRealMediaPlug23 you right 😂
How’d yall find those trucks that cheap???
I have a 97 f150 with 277,000 miles and it’s hauls anything no problem, I’m not sure if it’s bc it has the 5.4 but I can floor it and still get up to speed no problem
Bro . Your electrical problem in the Dodge is your TIPM aka Totally Integrated Control Module. You made it sound like there is no way to fix the problem. I've owned both brands... I'm a Ram Man Now. That Triton was horrible. Spark plugs in models 04-08 good luck getting those out yourself and the VCT Valves constantly gets clogged. That truck was in the shop more then I drove it. Besides that. My 14 ram made in Nov of that year. So I say it's a 15. But I'm at 183k and I still get 22mpg average. No hemi tick . No bullshit. I pull up to 23 5.7 hemis side by side and my engine sounds just as good today as it did the day I took it off the lot .
Those Triton motors in the Ford's hadvspark plug and head gasket issues. I've owned trucks from the big 3, they've all had some issues but overall my Dodges have done more with less than the Ford's and GM. Always interesting to see the comments and they diehard fans.
My father inlaws 03 ram 1500 4.7 lasted 250000 miles to get there it needs the tranny replaced 3 time 2 remanufactured rear difs and 3 complete engine rebuilds and the fuckers wipers still go crazy without touching them and he can be driving down the road and pull the key out of the ignition and the truck still drives as if the keys are in it 🤣 he retired that pos 3 yrs ago and what did he do!!! He bought another one!!!! This time a 05 ram2500 with the 5.7 hemi 😂
Not sure about your biases, but uh, they're showing. My Dodge, that I've had for 12 years, has had ONE problem. The blower motor. I replaced it. It works. It'll out pull other brands. It's a truck. Pulling a d fuel mileage are non compliant. If it pulls more, pulls better and last longer because it's working less......guess what. THAT, is the better truck. You should probably have this test done by individuals who have no bias toward Chevy's. If ya like Chevy's just say so, no need for this theatre
I am certainly all for Ford over here, I love ford and they last forever, but I did in fact buy that same dodge since it was a cheap. I got a 2002 ram 1500 4.7 and a 5 speed, and I’ll tell you I absolutely loved that truck and still have it until I can sell it to buy an f250. At first I was not a huge fan of the 4.7, as it has 3 huge issues. But, after seeing one of my friends with a 4.7 in their grand Cherokee do 260k miles of absolute abuse, I got interested. And sure enough if you take care of the 4.7 it will last even if you beat it. Unfortunately it lacked power so I am going to sell it. But all in all actually really enjoyed the truck.
Lol my 06 Dakota with the 4.7 would drive while in park. It had so many electrical gremlins in its 3 year run with me
I have had 00 f150 and bought it with 98,000 miles and had it for ten years. So when I stopped driving it I’d gotten 310,000 miles. But when it comes to towing my 19 f150 it does way better than my old 00 ever did
I got a 2004 dodge ram 1500 and it's amazing! Except mine got a 5.7 hemi.
Comparing apples to oranges. Although the engine liters are close, the structures are different. Compare a 2004- 2005 4.6 F150 to the ram, then the test would be equal. If not, then could compare a 1994-2001 Dosge Ram 5.2 for handling comparison to the 1998 F150.
I will at this comment I have had a friend that has own multiple 4.7 l well I have owned two of the same Ford f-150 plus both of his transmissions have blown and his engines have gone out I am still holding strong with my 98 Ford f150 4.6 l my 97 5.4 four-wheel drive long wheelbase
I dont know much about the 4.7 But my 2003 5.9 magnum back in the day was at 294,000 miles on orginial motor, I never put a transmission in it since i bought it with 242,000 but im sure its had atleast one. The A/C kinda sucked but other than that it was an awesome and great running truck and looked so good.
The older trucks from the mid 1990s and earlier b4 all the computers and electronic nonsense were and still are so simple to repair which to me is a big factor when it comes to reliability and longevity. Plus the older trucks just look so much better than anything new. I don't like how trucks have become luxury vehicles now. It just seems wrong lol
Hahaha love the engine very three years in the ram. my ram is a 04 has the exact same motor has 305,000 miles on it with the original motor and trans lol. Always has started n no major issues. I’d trust that tuck to take me to hell n back
These people are just Dodge haters.......
Looked/sounded like the Dodge had an aftermarket exhaust, I think if the Ford had one also it might have picked up a few horsepower for towing acceleration (also the ‘99-up 4.6L has more horsepower)
Um, so, the Ram is Not a crew cab. It's a quad cab. A crew cab has an even shorter length bed. C'mon man
I had a 98 f150 4.6 I loved it but I had 2657017 lt tires it towed just fine tires make the truck but I agree with the Dodge being junk transmission issues electric issues but Ford is always more reliable
For those of you wishing the dodge was a better truck,sorry for you,if you don't want your Ford anymore let me know I probably have a buyer.