One could say this is a “worst case” scenario

@avoidd2

4 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

@thierryrobichaud2603

4 жыл бұрын

lol👍

@hornandsaxophonist5089

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahaha kill me

@pimpovic2

4 жыл бұрын

Badump pssshhh.

@chanhvu7283

4 жыл бұрын

is this supposed to be a pun?

Me: it didn’t sound that bad Jay: terrible Me: terrible

@ddlcfan8947

4 жыл бұрын

Chatie 24 the instrument didn’t really have any defining depth. It was very boring. When you hear ｉｃｏｎｉｃ selmers, you are easily entertained by its depth. The sax was bland, not smooth, and abrupt, overall. Check out a selmer’s Autumn Leaves cover. But that saxophone would be GREAT for beginners. Obviously, i am a saxophonist, so I can easily tell the quality of saxes.

@ddlcfan8947

4 жыл бұрын

aaron names i cant tell if thats sarcastic or not

@eolueulo3044

4 жыл бұрын

@@ddlcfan8947 The comment didn't really have any defining sarcasm. Obviously, i am a linguist, so I can easily easily tell the sincerity of comments.

@kokonutmusic

3 жыл бұрын

Eolueulo are you also being sarcastic lmao

@fargesprak

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on 😂

Fortunately, I already have a tenor. But I bought a Lade Alto after seeing your review and I can confirm that it was a great buy. Thanks for your reviews

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

Good to hear this thanks.

@thefirebird6277

5 жыл бұрын

I’m planing on doing the same thing

@aSmelly1

4 жыл бұрын

Any chance you have an update on the alto after 6months of regular use? How's it holding up mechanically, visually, tone-wise? I had to give back my borrowed P. Mauriat alto, and im a broke college kid who just needs some jazz.

@fatpig1973a

4 жыл бұрын

I play tenor and I use some sort of Yamaha student sax. Jk lol my school let's you bring it home to play for a day if you want to

6:12 ok just casually throw in the lick

@user-qx7tm5df8j

5 жыл бұрын

the what

@KarlBonner1982

5 жыл бұрын

The second most famous motif in music, after Beethoven's 5th.

@user-qx7tm5df8j

5 жыл бұрын

@@KarlBonner1982 mkay

@ugnug

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-qx7tm5df8j go watch Adam neely

@deadlyfungus1557

4 жыл бұрын

twofivefun looks like we got a triggered conservatard

When's the cheap bari-sax comparison and review coming😂

@tristenbodiford9382

5 жыл бұрын

Antonious van Eyssen please that would be awesome

@grammar2863

5 жыл бұрын

What about sopranino

@antoniousvaneyssen616

5 жыл бұрын

@@grammar2863 even better

@corbinweibley3316

5 жыл бұрын

The cheapest one on Amazon is 1200$

@sreeser3512

4 жыл бұрын

@@corbinweibley3316 Even so, there is a lot of demand for that horn. Even the normally fairly competitive names like Yamaha are just ridiculously expensive - take a look at some price lists for Buescher and Conn back in the day and compare baris to the other voices, and you'll realize just how overpriced modern baris are in comparison to their counterparts from the Jazz Age.

“That’s not a good sign”

You had to open it with the gloves so it wouldn’t break

@paulgrass4855

5 жыл бұрын

Hehe

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

Except the gloves were inside the case!

@chrisquinn865

5 жыл бұрын

Better Sax should’ve used the other ones, they were better anyways 😂

@lucastobonsax

5 жыл бұрын

​@@bettersax Years ago, a salesman told me, the gloves are for testing in the store, for keeping the horn clean if you didn't decide to buy it. For me ti have some sense. Greetings from Colombia!

@extrinity

5 жыл бұрын

The gloves arent useless. You still can wear them on your hands lol

You gotta do the bari now or this is the world's meanest cliffhanger

as a tenor sax player and lover, a piece of my heart broke when i saw the tenor not in good shape at first

i felt the expression on your face at a spiritual level right when those bottom notes smoothly slid out on your Yani. phew.

Honestly as a Tenor and Bari player I can say that cheap saxes don’t sound bad, might need to replace some parts here and there but they sound good to me

@jasmineduran6731

4 жыл бұрын

Derek Dean I’m glad you said that. I’m wanting to get a tenor saxophone but I can’t afford to get the professional $1000+ and I plan on ordering one off of Amazon.

@q12aw50

Жыл бұрын

@@jasmineduran6731 if you can still afford a tenor that’s like

The first one was alright, it had a great sound that had a more classical sound. But the yanigasowa had a much warmer sound and had a cool old school sound that made it sound much more like a traditional jazzy sax. The second one also had a brighter sound.

@MUZHARKHAN-vn2hu

3 ай бұрын

Chinese made tenor sax Can anyone suggest me a good and reliable tenor

I completely understand your breath of relief after blowing the low notes smooth I played a bad tenor for about 2 years, and at a jazz convention i got to try out saxophones, and i played a nice tenor, and blew the low notes at a volume below forte, and it felt amazing

I watched your video on the amazon alto sax and was amazed at the quality and the sound. In anticipation I watched this video on the amazon tenor sax and was not amazed by the instrument. As far as sound and playability, the pro tenor sax sounded much better and the pro appeared to play a lot easier. Thanks for the video Jay!

I got one too after seeing your review and got extra warranty off eBay. I had an issue with neck register key. Bended it back to position similar to what you did. Also had simple issue with g sharp key and got spring back in place. After that it plays pretty well. It’s an extra sax to stay at my fathers, jam with him and not constantly pack a sax for travel.

Maybe IKEA is manufacturing these things. So then the assembly session isn't surprising.

@samuelhingley7066

4 жыл бұрын

This is the most underated comment

I didn’t realise you already had done this, serves me right for watching old content. This was great to watch. Now I’m going to scroll the rest of your videos before I ask for anything 😊. Thank you!

Do the Bari!(pls) Wanna hear play Bari, haven’t heard you play yet.

@jacksonreger5402

5 жыл бұрын

YES!! PLEASE DO BARI!!

6:13 the lick

I am curious to learn how the replacement sax performs. I can appreciate the optimism you expressed in detailing a list of "do's & don'ts" for the manufacturer to consider before shipping their packaged products (free of cost). Nice!

I came to talk trash, but this was some of the best playing I've heard on this channel. Keep up the good work.

Sounds like there are some leaks issues, shouldn't be a problem to set it up. The only turn down is that if I would get one of those with those falling parts, I'd have to take it to a technician and spend the money I saved when buying it...

@DD_Quack

5 жыл бұрын

The other guy said Lade can pay you for the repair fee, surprising.....

Your Channel helped me start my own! Thank you!

He sets it down on the keys. Now that’s a professional.

@chrisr4277

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, yeah it is more professional to do that. Setting it down with keys in the air actually leaves your palm D pushed down by the weight of the sax against the floor. Depending on your saxophone, the key guards for Low C down to Bb should protect the rest of the keys as well setting it keys down at the expense of chipping off some lacquer, if it's a hard surface.

@ballpythonsarecool5437

2 жыл бұрын

I always set it down like that I get annoyed when someone doesnt

I am now using Legere synthetics and like them a lot. Great when doubling on alto and tenor and don't have to worry about the dormant reed drying out.

I appreciate someone taking the time and money to review three student level saxes. Decades ago I learned on a Saxophone purchased from a Distributer in NYC, a Pierret Oxford which was manufactured in Paris. Even though the Sax appeared to me to have connections to Selmar Paris, it doesn't get good reviews either. I'm now much more content with a popular Japanese professional sax which I like to depend on.

Looking forward to the Bass Saxophone comparison video! 😉

@abedinsubashi

5 жыл бұрын

T.H. Woth I’m super pumped for the contrabass vid!

@Matthew-ll3fp

4 жыл бұрын

Although he’s a saxophonist I would like to see him order a subcontrabassoon

Glad you're sending that bucket of bolts back. Reminds me of the soprano of theirs I USED to own.

Greetings from Mexico city. Great videos!!! After watching your alto review, decided to buy a Lade sax. It is a good buy considering the price. Good for students and begginers like my self. My review: Its just like cheap cars, Dont expect air bags or leather seats, still it will take from point a to b.

I guess when he was fixing that tenor sax, he did make it into a “Better Sax”

I had this same experience when I purchased one of these horns as a #2 I still have the horn and I'm using it to pratice repairs on!

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

Well at least you're getting some use out of it...

I love my (S)Lade alto..good quality and sounds great. Looking for a tenor now. Cool review.

I like the tone from Lade, tone wise no problem when you played it.

@kruzehagan1861

5 жыл бұрын

Its supposed to be SLADE not lade

Hey, first I would like to say that it was an awesome video. I am a tenor player myself and decided to try the Lade tenor, but had much more satisfaction than you did (wasn't broken, no leaks). Maybe have a part two with a different saxophone?

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

That's good to hear. I'm sure this one would have been pretty good without the damage. Glad you're happy with it.

I know this is the tenor test but years ago I bought a used Conn student eb Alto horn for 100 bucks, and taught myself how to re-pad it and play it. It was loads of fun, and fine to learn on. So perhaps looking for a good used one might be a better intro plan.

Thanks for sharing Jay. Interesting point about the case, that makes sense that could cause a lot of problems. I have only gotten one saxophone in the mail. Figured it was a gamble. But it was also an older saxophone. The Conn soprano I have from 1929. It could basically play when I got it, but improved quite a bit with some replaced pads. I did a few minor repairs myself. Could also be good to consider whether you can carry the case on a flight if you're interested in doing that. For soprano/alto you can probably carry most on board. But with tenor, it's basically at the edge where a more contoured case will get you less looks/inquiries. But if you're going to check, it had better be extremely secure.

The Yanagisawa horn has a brighter and fuller sound. Lade turned out to be somewhat decent and MAY suffice for a beginner who's parent's are on a limited budget. So, they need to keep in mind the 'caveat' principle. Buyers: be prepared to spend additional money for any potential repairs, a better case, and that they should know where they can have their new horn serviced as I'm assuming the Lade doesn't come with a very good warranty, if it does at all. My general consensus is to save a bit and then purchase a more quality horn. My experience has been that beginners practice better and more often with a good sounding horn. Thx Jay. As always, your videos are instructive and educational. Keep up the good work.

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael.

Thanks for all the information, you save a lot people a lot of trouble!

Great video again! Thanks for the review. There’s no excuse for the case to be too big for the sax. Before foam cases were common the older cases had a plastic tray underneath the protective fabric. Granted if you still have one of those cases, the tray probably has cracked.

You gotta do cheap vs expensive sub contrabass sax next

@Supremedalex

5 жыл бұрын

That's just obvious

@YanThaGamer

4 жыл бұрын

They both expensive bro

@mazon33

4 жыл бұрын

@@YanThaGamer woosh

@YanThaGamer

4 жыл бұрын

FishKing4999 Golf Cart that jas also a joke dumbass

@toodle-oopoofpoof9979

4 жыл бұрын

I think they all expensive

Your service is invaluable Best Wahes!

Sounded pretty good and sounded pretty consistent. It would be interesting what you would sound like after getting used to it for about a week. I don't think there would be much difference from the more expensive. Thats pretty amazing Jay. You make anything sound good though. : )

I really appreciate your time looking at saxaphones

I started alto a year ago but really glad I watched your Jean Paul As400 video. It’s been a great instrument! Even though you got lucky with the real cheap alto sax it might almost be better for someone to rent a good sax from a local music store while saving instead of go in at that low of a price point....or maybe a payment plan

Hey Jay! Thanks for this great review ^^

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mohamed

Such a great vid as I was about to buy that tenor as I need one great vid keep it going Love yoy

What are your opinions on other super cheap saxes compared to the Lade? Do they all have similar quality/issues or are there variations between these? Loving the videos btw!

I played tenor and I loved it. I had to pay my auto insurance and had to sell it. It was a Yamaha intermediate tenor that I bought for $1,700.00. It served me better than the Bundy 2s that I had bought for $600.00. I started out playing an old Martin alto sax bought at a pawn shop to get started. It wasn’t until later that I had a horn that was lacquered from a silver horn to a darker lacquer one. It will take some time, but I will hold out for a professional horn.

Truth teller, that’s my man! It sounds great, but that’s your skill, not the horn. Great advice as always! Thanks! Rocket 🚀

@drewsillytoo

5 жыл бұрын

At least, it shows it is possible to play decently well and such

Even the "cheap" one is something that is waayy beyond what I can afford. The one I use is locally made here in India and it costs about 15,000 rupees (about 200 USD). And even that "cheap" one would be a major upgrade for me, so from my point of view whenever I see a musician complaining about their instrument, all I can think of is "stop makin excuses, if you really wanna play, you can play on anything"

The sound of the lade (because of the slight leak, paired with a professional player) was kind of smokey sound that I personally think could sound decent on some solid ballad playing, but I'm sure you can get that sound on the pro quite easily

Can you do a video with a baritone saxophone from amazon? Please

@CrisTc86

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, but if the trend follows. The larger the sax the worse condition it will arrive in.

@grammar2863

5 жыл бұрын

What about a soprnino?🤣

@colerossi8119

5 жыл бұрын

That’s not true alto was in better condition than soprano

@tidehoof

5 жыл бұрын

@@CrisTc86 Which is odd because the smaller the instrument the more precise everything has to be.

@utahtenorII

3 жыл бұрын

Soprillo?

Great review as always 👍

A very useful video, and professionally made both technically and content wise. I miss the Conn-Selmer Prelude TS711 (tenor), 1299.- USD at Amazon. I have one of these and also a Selmer Mark VI. I can't tell the difference.

4:01 C Key: Yo wassup keyguard u lookig freshhh

YES IT'S FINALLY HERE!

Thank you for this review!

Wow, I'm diggin' hard on those pilers used when you repaired the post!

Thanks for doing this. I really appreciate it, as I have a couple of kids getting to the age of wanting to play saxophone. I really didn't want to spend mega dollars then they decide to give it up. So a sub 1k saxophone looks sufficient for a child starting out. I have a leak light and tools, so I can get most things right for playing should the need arise. Thanks again.

Amazing video! I would really like a review of the Yamaha YTS 280 Tenor sax.

Reminds me of when I upgraded to a pro tenor. I bought a P. Mariuat... Something about that horn made me fall in love with it. A pro horn doesn't necessarily make you a better player but it definitely allows you the ease of accessing what you know how to do so well... the expression and flexibility you have on a nice instrument is worth the investment... Especially if you play it for decades. Better investment then a car tbh... especially if you can make a few bucks with it.

6:15 that cured my depression THE LICC

The Yanagisawa definitely sounded better, a fuller sound! I agree with many of the other comments that said to get a used horn that is from a more reputable company. As an aside, I had the auto translate on and had to laugh at what system translated “Yanagisawa” to, LOL.

I did not know oxfords without a collar existed until I saw this video

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

haha, Uniqlo is the store where I buy those.

@AmanAman-ch7yl

4 жыл бұрын

@@bettersax مرحبا مليون دولار أمريكي مرحبا مليون

Great video! Tried an amazon sax and never liked it! Glad that I got my used Jupiter!

I got a accent saxophone that cost 800$ and the case is super good and ready to play right from the box when I got it it sounded really good.

I bought a used Schiller T. Sax for $108.00. Put another $125.00 into it to put it into playing shape (obvious lower Bb, B pad adjustment, and other old pad replacement and adjustments was necessary), now I have a decent sax to work with.

Yes I have been waiting

JM - Tone was good, intonation sounded good, too. If playability, per your comments, was a bit inferior, and with the mechanical issues after shipping, I wouldn't risk this one, either. Thanks for sharing this info with sax fans.

thank you veeery much for this kind of video where you just answer the big question is it ok to buy a cheap sax. as seen the alto sax was good enough so i'm just giving it a shot when it arrives, and i hope i'm as lucky as you were with the alto sax becaus i'm exactly in that position you mentioned; i wanna play sax but don't have money. so thank you for your advise :) you are doing great!

The cheap one sounds good but breathy, and the pro has a clear crisp sound

I bought the Lade alto sax and the octave key had broken off. A bit of glue and it's been fine since but .... yeah. Still happy with it! As a beginner, I just wanted something that would play decently enough. So thanks again for the video, Jay!

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

oh that's too bad... At least it's working for you now.

@whugheswhughes98144

5 жыл бұрын

@@bettersax You know, it's just another instance of REALLY helping me appreciate how incredibly clarinets/saxes are made and how hard they are to maintain and repair. And it was satisfying that my fix worked and has continued to stay on (knock on wood). But yeah, wasn't a great beginning for Lade on that one....

I just got my tenor this year in grade 6 and I am trash this guy is god at the tenor

I’m a guy, not gay but I could fall asleep to your voice J. Best teaching btw.

Had a customer with the soprano... Based on your review, I offered to do a complete rebuild. There were tons of manufacturing defects to correct... not an easy job, but when I was done, the thing played great and had a very nice tone... after it was all said and done, the guy had a great instrument for under $2000. Worth it? Maybe.

They shipped you a sax with “some assembly required, batteries not included”

Thanks for doing these reviews. I may begin telling select students that an Alto from Amazon might be worth considering. Since you emphasized the poor quality of the case and the importance of a good quality case it begs the request for a review on after market cases. ProTech, Gator, BAM, Hiscox etc.

this video has help me as i need to buy my own tenor sax instead of rent one

I now have an Selmer alto; played a Selmer tenor and Selmer flute in college (early 1970's), and grew up with a Martin alto; I still love the Martin, but the Selmer suits me fine for now (I'm and old dude, been playing since 1962; yet, I'm still not as good as you! but, I keep at it....

Try a cheap bari sax? That would be a good tester for everything again!

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

There aren't any cheap baritone saxophones are there?

@KMerrells

5 жыл бұрын

@@bettersax lol yeah, that's so (unfortunately) true. If it ever fits your budget, I'd love to hear it... I play bari, so I'm fine with mine, but a number of people only double on it, so having a serviceable cheap one would be a huge benefit.

@22cjk22

5 жыл бұрын

@@bettersax people seem to like the Taishan bari's... run about $1500.

@bdmax17

5 жыл бұрын

@@bettersax True. They are hard to find, but I seem to remember seeing one in and about the Internet for less than £1000? Not sure what it is tho so that don't really help. No worries then 👍

Unlike the sound comparisons between Yana and budget alto and soprano saxophones, in this video the difference in sound is quite noticeable: Lade is better! (kidding, Yana is the deepest, warmest sound). Great video, Jay.

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think everyone will be in agreement with this one.

I was booked to take a solo on a Reggae recording in the early 70s in London. When I had completed my solo, over the Loudspeaker system I was asked to come into the Control room. I thought "Oh Oh ! Whats up Doc. ? I was told the solo was too good. As it was winter, I had gloves with me, donned them and said 'Let's see how it is now' I took a solo once more, and after it, the Loudspeaker became activated again. And a voice said : 'Perfect Bob'

Got that same sax for Christmas, the g sharp key came off immediately. Sent that sucker back

As I previously commented, after your "Cheapest Sax on Amazon VS My Professional Alto Saxophone" video, I bought the alto sax and I'm very satisfied. I can confirm everything you said in your review. Well, in order to improve the sound, I now bought a new embouchure, which I found second hand at a good price. It is a Berg Larsen 95/2 SMS. Surprisingly, it doesn't fit into the chiver. I measured the chiver diameter, which is 15mm, becoming 16.5mm considering the cork. The internal diameter of the mouthpiece is exactly 15mm, so, no way to fit it into the chiver .... Considering that they are both 15mm, even replacing the cork with a thinner one, won't fix the issue . Do you experienced the same on the sax you tested? What is supposted to be the right diameter of the final part of the alto sax chiver? I'm afraid the only solution is to widen the inside diameter of the mouthpiece in some way, maybe with a lathe, do you have any suggestion? By the way, in the meantime I'm happily following your "Play Sax By Ear" course with my tenor sax, thanks again for your great videos! Filippo, Rome (Italy)

Good start

My first sax was a rental and even my instructor was unable to get the upper register to play at all. After a month or i said the heck with renting and so I bought my yts-26. It was the best move I made as a beginner. But this one as bad as it was was hands above the one I had first rented.

Love this video, made me laugh. :-) The cheap sax clearly took more effort, and given more time with it you could make it work (you could make anything work) even better. However, you sounded like a street busker on it (not bad, just a different sound) and maybe that's what you were going for. Your Yani sounds fantastic next to the Slade. After much research I took the plunge and got a Taishan Winds (top domestic brand in China) tenor. I play top/pro clarinet and alto so have high expectations and was worried. It came, looks beautiful, plays really easy, sounds fine. Seems solid. I'm relieved. Still need to settle on mpc, but got a decent setup for now which shockingly includes their knock off Yamaha 4C (+Rovner dk +Legere).

@bettersax

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you got a horn to work with...

@22cjk22

5 жыл бұрын

@@bettersax It cost double the Slade, but still under $1k. Good case too!

So, the lesson I learned here is maybe it's a good idea to spend at least 500 on a tenor saxophone. I just checked on Amazon and saw that they have Allora brand student horns for $525. That's at least a name I recognize and even considered when I was shopping for a pro alto earlier this year. I really appreciate these videos. I guess all that's left is the amazingly cheap bari saxes on ebay. $1600 for a bari. They look nice in the pictures and it would be super tempting to buy one if I have that much laying around some day.

Been playing Yani's for forty year's, and there is no comparison. Typically, these junkers, like the one you bought off Amazon are for beginning students. However, for that sax to arrive all banged-up like that would really be upsetting to a young student eagerly awaiting their first sax? Yanagisawa also makes great mouthpieces, and each beginner must start off with a good mouthpiece. The mouthpiece is as important as the make of the sax. Getting back to the Yani's Having played the Selmer Paris side by side to the Yanagisawa--Honestly, they're very close, but the Yanagisawa takes first. For me, anyway... I just subscribed, and looking forward to new posts.

It would be worthwhile to test top-of-the-line Chinese instruments. I have a Toyama curved soprano which is a copy of the Yani. It is a pretty reasonable instrument which plays in tune and has a nice tone.

Thanks for the answer. That Slade tenor saxophone still had a lot of static sound compared to the other saxophone.

I was looking at Lade saxes tonight, some sellers have two prices, for an extra $25aud, you get a hard case instead of the soft one, after seeing this, I think it best to pay that bit extra!

Haha!! Good video Jay. Surprise for me. This cheap sounds realy good, even if your Yani is easy to play securly. Anyway, its inadmissible to receive a horn in this conditions.

No brainer Yanni . How about comparing some less expensive saxs for hobbyists.. Jam sessions community pit bands etc. And thanks Jay for your efforts.

wow, i never even considered how good my case was,(or not). I've got a nice Yanagisawa tenor wich came with a Yani case, but I use my old case (Gulf) because it has better outside pockets that can hold a full band folder. It seems snug in there, but I never really paid attention to how good the fit is. I'm gonna give it a shake right now!. So, who knew? Cheap cases are a bad idea. Great tip! In addition to this, i really gotta say what a great service you are providing by testing these really inexpensive horns. We've all been tempted to buy these. Since you've had a lot of luck with Alto and soprano, I've decided to take a chance and buy a $100 (CDN$) flute from amazon. It's a flute, what could they get wrong on that. I hope the gloves are nice though. That's kind of a deal breaker. :P

It makes sense that a bigger instrument would be subject to greater forces during shipping and have more damage. But I imagine that the smallest instrument would be subject to being tossed around more. I would place my bet on the alto coming through the best.

I got a tenor sax on amazon for a little under 500 usd and I’ve had it for a little under 3 years and it works pretty well. I’ve only had to take it for repairs once (the G# pad was leaking)

The difference in sound between the cheap tenor and the Yani is way more obvious than the soprano and alto....and anyway your facial expression during the play test told everything! Ah, ah, I spent a good moment.

I think you sound great on both of them; but then I think you are a great sax player!

@marselmusic

5 жыл бұрын

But the low notes on the lade made it look like it was hard

Now we need the sub contrabass saxophone comparison