she's mainstream for indie, and indie for mainstream

@talkmone

25 күн бұрын

Perfect 👍

@m1ssb1mbette

11 күн бұрын

spot on omg this is perfect to describe her

@Desiree-Laine

Күн бұрын

THIS!!!🥰👍❤️

She's said this before; her brief flirtation with the mainstream and the trajector towards pop superstardom abruptly ended not because she COULDN'T do it, but because she didn't want to. She decided to stick with the unique and avant garde, and I guarantee will be remembered for it.

@Blitzbrie

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely, anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron. The fact that there's a long list of songs that she gave away to other artists that went #1 or charted really high should pretty clearly say as much.

@MoistCubicle

14 күн бұрын

way cooler anyways than that other shite.

@CoCreation.with.Qualia

13 күн бұрын

I mean, it’s a cute sentiment that she’s doing something underground & doesn’t want fame with all the media appearances & obviously is making pop music, even though unique

@dunnowy123

13 күн бұрын

@@CoCreation.with.Qualia I don't know if she doesn't want fame, tbh she never comes across as a person who is uncomfortable in front of a camera or being in the spotlight, but I think she likes being a sort of minor celebrity most people know, and is respected by her peers. This is completely me navel gazing, that's just the vibe I get from her

@aotctd

12 күн бұрын

Nothing Avantgarde about her

I also only knew a couple of girls in the music video, but the funny thing is Charli's undeniable confidence made me feel like I *should* know who everyone is.

@silviabeatrizcalongamedina9128

12 күн бұрын

i know all of them like i'm so chronically online i need to a find a boyfriend 😭😭😭

There's something almost apocalyptic about it? The monogenre has died and we're picking up the pieces. The meeting to pick the new it girl is not taking place at the Met Gala, it's in a dingy, backrooms-esque Italian place named after another cult pop girl who got screwed over by her label. The stage is gone and the performers are making do with what's left.

@zzzjamie-dimaulozzz

Ай бұрын

why is this actually so true. like we’ve been bringing to life the darker side of being “mainstream” and now we’re remaking what’s in and whats out in pop culture. and when there’s no more interest of ppl who are mainstream, we don’t need labels to be the drawing board, we can make fun of it

@sadiqinlatifiamir6563

Ай бұрын

The restaurant is a reference to the Sky Ferreira’s twitter stan account who is also a big Charli fan. I was surprised i caught that detail i guess im chronically online lmao

@zzzjamie-dimaulozzz

Ай бұрын

@@sadiqinlatifiamir6563 omg yes, i remember on first watch seeing the restaurant and being like “sky????”

@fyloeru

Ай бұрын

ouuu

@countnu4166

29 күн бұрын

Yeah and I’d see PC Music people say that they aren’t necessarily saying it ironic that they’re just making whatever they wanna make.

I feel like _"pastiche"_ might be a good word here. Whereas a _parody_ deliberately amplifies cliches to mock something. A _pastiche_ amplifies cliches to pay tribute to something in a fun way.

honestly im so surprised that the cover art for brat didn't land with the twt crowd,, like yeah its ugly but its just like a 2010 yt lyrics video

@cyberpet9385

23 күн бұрын

Her thought process behind it is also fantastically ingenious; but do the majority of twitter stans even know how to read? Let alone take their precious online time to read whole interview articles? 💚

@alondrahuaman

17 күн бұрын

yes !!

@athen_x-6319

15 күн бұрын

It's because of CRASH, the image, all the aesthetics of that super bomb hypersexual main queen. You can't easily forget that aura and those photoshoots

@saul-wv7fk

13 күн бұрын

It is starting to grow bigger now. Lots of people are using the cover as pfp now lol

@ellieprint

9 күн бұрын

well it is now

Charli is pop evolution

@brianxcx

Ай бұрын

@@xp8969oh ur MADDDD 😭

@aotctd

12 күн бұрын

lol yikes

@brianxcx

11 күн бұрын

@@aotctd you sound offended and hostile.

I would also like to add: I’ve been in the rave scene for years and have followed the pop music zeitgeist since my teenage years- there’s something so charming and heartwarming seeing Charli promote her producers (who she knows plays a significant part in the overall sonic quality she’s going for) in her Boiler room set: Party Girl. Rarely, dare I say never, has a pop girl at her level EVER championed her production team as much as she has. The irony is this whole Brat Era being “bratty” is almost anything but the reality. Charli is Meta. IQ threw the roof- hence, why she’s a cult classic.

@dunkindonut36

9 күн бұрын

!!! this

@lauracraig8110

7 күн бұрын

Exactly this - and its probably one of the most iconic boiler rooms performances ever.

this makes a lot of sense. her new eras and some other eras of hers kind of parody of the “it girl” she does in the music industry

Im very happy you mentioned Sophie! I got into Charli because of Sophie and I’m so happy that there’s someone to keep her legacy going

@pachirisugirl7204

25 күн бұрын

The only reason why I got into Charli xcx in the first place was BECAUSE of the Sophie/AG Cook collab. I find that I love Charli’s music the most when she is doing a track with A.G. Rest in peace Sophie, a god damn legend.

so you're saying the people that get it get it... exactly she's mother

@audreyurquhart9057

25 күн бұрын

If you’re not a hottie you just won’t get it!!

@KYLETISZAI

18 күн бұрын

🎉

when I saw Alex Consani in the MV, I screamed and immediately got what she was going for

@a.h.i267

18 күн бұрын

Same with when i saw quen 😂

@dunkindonut36

9 күн бұрын

or Chloe Sevigny!

@jeongminlee1551

7 күн бұрын

& emma chamberlain

I love that the girl cast for the waitress in 360 is some random wannabe actress with only 2000 followers on instagram it's so meta.

@KYLETISZAI

18 күн бұрын

What's her name

I feel that this is the same kind of “irony” that PC Music used to do, although they didn’t think it was irony

@years3333

Ай бұрын

I’m in the belief that they (subconsciously) know all along lol. I also thought PC Music was basically an ironic reference to modern pop music?

@christophekauffmann5923

29 күн бұрын

@@years3333 that's when it becomes post-irony. it's self-aware, but the goal is not to be satirical. the goal is actually to be the most sincere and authentic. I think Hannah Diamond is the best example of the PC music crew when we talk about sincerity. She's not mocking Girlhood and cute childhood girl wonders, she's putting light at it and showing her sensibility to these visuals and meanings. and that what's making it interesting. To be authentic and at the same time self aware at what it references

@charli.7889

15 күн бұрын

@@christophekauffmann5923 this is such a great articulation of what Hannah Diamond is about imo. it's so authentic and so serious, but using these pop elements dialled up to 100 in a way that's weird and experimental but ultimately because it's a love for the genre, not to take the piss out of it

@miscelaineous5164

Күн бұрын

KZreadr Mic the Snare made a video a couple years back about PC music/hyperpop in which he discusses the sound’s “precarious residence between sincerity and parody”. Which is so well explained, but I think its also hugely about nostalgia. The zeitgeist of the early 2000’s/2010’s was pathologically “ironic” (ie parody), but nostalgia by nature is sentimental (ie sincerity), so if you grew up around that time, as all of these artists did, there is going to be a dichotomous fusion of those two conflicting concepts. And it’s brilliant because, to the rest of us who also grew up then, it feels so right. It also incidentally alienates those who do not identify with that appeal to y2k nostalgia and widens the gaps between musical generations. (Not a lament, that’s just how time works lol)

I feel like that tweet didn't get the whole point of the song. In the video they decide the next it girl is a random waitress, and with the line "when you look in the mirror you're just looking at me" she is saying anyone can be the next big thing. I doubt that group of icons could manufacture an it girl in some weird illuminati decision, and I especially don't think that's the point they're making in the first place.

@dennys8798

24 күн бұрын

Well... it's twitter, don't expect great and clever things from that place hahaha

@grandtheftautov4874

12 күн бұрын

yeahhhh, My interpretation of the videoclip was that everyone can be the IT girl, I never felt that i wasnt invite it to the table.

Finally someone's talking about this specific subject it's been in my mind this whole year

let's not forget about True Romance though, come on! yes, she made those huge pop hits (which i love, Boom Clap is fun, idc i had Sucker blasting back in 2014) but also released True Romance in 2013 which was so Charli XCX and nothing like the radio

@rhubarb1073

Ай бұрын

"what i like" will prob always be my #1 charli track

@lovelyy6491

Ай бұрын

@@rhubarb1073 omg same!! it's so nostalgic, i love it so much

@adamjanos2

Ай бұрын

Totally

@solongsuicide9

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I hate when people only know her just from Sucker & the biggest mainstream hits, or act as if that was her beginning & True Romance never happened, & doesn't exist. #JusticeForTrueRomance She mentioned it in a recent interview & referred to it as her really good album that no one listened to & quoted the low sale figures. I was like *YES!!!* It's so good to see her acknowledging TR & showing it the love it deserves. I've been a fan since "Franchescar!!!", & "GRINS" is one of the TR/ Heartbreaks & Earthquakes songs I revisit the most. I love her unreleased music, too. _"bout to pull up to the block block block block, green money in a green bag."_ 🎶

@sockaponch

29 күн бұрын

OMG hi Caroline polachek

Back when she was younger, she released a mixtape called "14" and it featured song like !Francheskaar!, Supermodels and Holiday Stunners, Mauritius, etc. It's not on streaming platforms but honestly it kind of resembles her PC music songs. Which make me think, maybe it has always been Charli's vision to be hyperpop

Okay - saying "Boom Clap" isn't good is just not true. That song is romantic, and sweet, while feeling all encompassing and big like a first love feels in your chest. You get lost in the rhythm like you lose yourself to the chemicals of love. It slaps. And "I love it" has its charms. The kind of bombastic that only works with Europop synths and those distorted bases - it really compliments the scale of Charli's vocals. 'Fancy" - yeah okay, your right there.

@lrose.33

20 күн бұрын

I feel like the good parts of fancy were Charli's contributions and the only reason it was so popular was because her parts were actually so dam catchy

You bringing up quiet light was the most meta-version of "woah that guy knows my favorite micro-celebrity"

this is the ultimate “the girls that get it get it, the girls that don’t don’t” irony

It’s interesting to me how there used to be a monoculture. Everyone would get cultural references and there would be a cultural reference that everyone could understand. That’s gone, I think the reason why there is such division politically is because we all life in echo chamber online where the algorithm feeds you what you like constantly. So there’s niches of niches of niches

@psychedelicyeti6053

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, this felt like too much of nothing, if that makes sense. 😅

“I’m so Julia” sent me the first time I heard it

Charli indeed is the pioneer, who kicked the doors down so that others can go through. Definitely deserves to be a Rock & Roll hall of famer.

@xp8969

Ай бұрын

Who is she? Never heard of her

@CardoTown

Ай бұрын

@@xp8969 he said stupidly after watching the whole video

@xp8969

Ай бұрын

😂@@CardoTown nah, I said it INSULTINGLY

@Greybell

27 күн бұрын

I'd love to have her name there but like Alfo said, she's big enough, but not huge enough so it might take a while for her to gain recognition.

@dancingdyonysis

24 күн бұрын

@@xp8969 commenting helps the algorithm so thank u for your taking the time out of your day to hate, i'm sure the creator and charli really appreciate it!

Loved this! Can’t believe it took so long to pop on my feed

DUDE Lipgloss with Cupcakke, all I have to say, she was onto something.

the boom clap slander 😬

@avani5907

22 күн бұрын

i love it. first charli song i loved.

@phillipeden

17 күн бұрын

i blacked out after that what else was this about?

@psychedelicyeti6053

4 күн бұрын

​@@phillipedenso did I lol

you know I've always liked charlis music but always felt like there was something i didn't get, but this video has really helped me to get it.

incredible commentary. Added to the playlist FAVS

Goddamn that was such a mind blowing video I loved the analysis phheewwwww

That 360 808 stuck in my head fr

You worded what I couldn’t say perfectly, thank you for making his video🙏🏾

I subscribed because you ATE that.

u said it all, amazinggg im loving this era

10:25 reminded me of how I had been misinterpreting a Frost Children line, "I'd rather be underrated than be famous" when really the actual lyric was "I don’t wanna be underrated, I’d rather be famous, (Than be an anon)" For WEEKS I thought it was "I'd rather be underrated than be famous". I thought Frost Children were so beautifully insightful and it was just a genius line in a wicked song, from a wicked album, because like what you're saying here, there's a certain fame that comes with that niche internet micro-celebrity that can't be attainable in any other volume. I thought that misinterpreted line was aiming to capture what you were talking about here.

@Fincayra15

11 күн бұрын

That’s beautiful. I love when I mishear lyrics and it adds more to the song-even (and sometimes especially) if the opposite meaning was intended

I’ve actually had this tweet in the back of my head since I read it and felt like it was missing the point a bit but not exactly wrong. You’ve articulated a lot of the muddy thoughts while filling in some blanks for me since I’m not a huge Charli follower. Great analysis!

Absolute banger of a video!

Charli’s fame and influence makes her such an enigma and unable to be categorised, like radio one big weekend put her on the new music stage for rising artists bc she doesn’t fit anywhere yet everywhere even though she’s been making music for well over 10 years. She appears at major events, like the met albeit inconsistently and the Grammys always, she has influenced pop and pop culture irreversibly for years, always setting trends 2 to 5 years before their is a big hit capitalising on them, and everyone has heard of her but only gays KNOW her. You know her songs but her listenership and popularity means it makes sense she should play arenas, but on the crash tour only 2 years ago it was theatre venues bc her fame is elusive and confusing. She is pop, because she pioneered the genre but gets lots of recognition and credit whilst also not enough, like a Grammys sweep. She’s a fave of mine for a reason tho 😭

Sick video man! Couldn’t agree with this take more. You clearly know your stuff

brilliant video!!

crash never hit the heights of how im feeling now and charli

@arithesheep5506

28 күн бұрын

There all so good

@talkmone

25 күн бұрын

Crash feels like it never existed, the odd ball album

@justsamoo3480

19 күн бұрын

@@talkmone Ehhhh, I don’t think so. I think it brought a lot of attention to Charli that previous records didn’t. For example I was able to hear Beg for you on a pop radio station in Slovenia!? Never in my life had i thought that i would hear Rina Sawayama on any radio in my country. But I think that Crash will be a pivotal album in Charli’s career. She put on this persona of a pop star, an idea of which she previously fully reject. For example the lead single of this record was Good Ones, which was not written by her. That is surprising, because we know that she is a skilled songwriter and it works towards this world building of a pop star Charli persona. In interviews Charli also said that she wanted to try out being a pop star again, but on her terms. The pop star persona included big budget music videos (at least for Good Ones and Beg for you), a trending 80s production and a dance crew during her live performances. But it also meant collaborating with people like Caroline and Christine, bringing some of her own personality into the record as well as performing songs like Welcome to my Island remix on tour. Because of this pop star-ish cosplay it meant that she can now position herself as the “post-ironic it girl”, which is her whole current persona that is responsible for Brat (at least from what we’ve heard so far). If she kept making experimental records she just simply wouldn’t appeal to as many (gay) people, she probably wouldn’t land the Bodies Bodies and Barbie soundtracks, which introduced this persona of hers to the wider public. Also there are some amazing songs on Crash, Move and Constant Repeat being one of Charli’s best. Lightning, Crash, Yuck and Good ones are great too.

Love this thank you!

this is such an incredibly well done video im now a loyal new fan to u

@xcoldxasxfirex

9 күн бұрын

OH MY GOD THIS WAS BEFORE THE BUFF REVEAL LMAOOOOOOOOOOO im so happy in my new decision

I just checked out Quiet Light because of this video! Wow, she is INCREDIBLE! These are some of the most interesting songs I’ve heard in a long time. Thank you!!!

this is so spot on. Great video

dead on I think mate. Nice analysis

I never really followed Charli career over the years. I knew about her hits and features and that was it. But when how i'm feeling right now dropped, I was an instant fan. To me it was perfect album for that moment and I revisit it again and again.

I didn’t see the Survivor point coming! I’m a Charli and Survivor fan. Really enjoyed the video, thank you.

5:42 yesssss Rina mention

I have only seen discourse about exclusivity and "coolness" but I read it as openly unapologetic, meaning that whoever resonates is welcome in. All music videos are set in mundane, nondescript suburbia settings, a dmv, an airport, a grey family owned restaurant and she is there as everyone else is. All internet personalities are in a way in the same places common folks are, while they are projected on their phone screens. Who gets offended is obviously focused on how much they are out of place and why they are not there with them, while I think it's intended to be seen as a celebration, they bring self expression to wherever they are, whenever.

Charli is my ultimate guilty pleasure artist and i love this vid for validating my feelings

phenomenal thoughts on this, you said what I was thinking but 1000x more organized lol

This video is excellent!

Charli is that cool girl that you know she's cooler and richer than you, but at the same she can get you a drink and have fun with you

you trippin boom clap is a banger.

@UltimateAwe

Ай бұрын

Yeah, those comments threw me off

Some people just don’t get her tbh But this video is spot on imo

Charlie made Gabbriette p much, she made a Netflix doc of her forming a pop punk band named Nasty Cherry, two girls from LA and two from UK, Gabby taking lead role.

@KYLETISZAI

18 күн бұрын

Thats ☕

@bexiexz

18 күн бұрын

yes! i remember! she had the vibe but not really the musical skill at the time, so she learned bass! botth iconic

@eewahnah

16 күн бұрын

@@bexiexz still a huge fan of their song 'What Do You Like in Me'

I feel cool knowing that i immediately understood which Julia she was talking about the first time i heard the song

I think i personally saw a change with charli when i listened to ringtone by gecs ft her. Like she blew my mind away

@Jesshit

24 күн бұрын

Yesss I love that song

Very well said 🫡

My favorite bit was that one shot with AG Cook when he was name-dropped in the lyrics. Not every casual Charlie fan knows AG and PC music but every hyperpop fan would kinda expect AG to be in this video.

thanks for reminding me of uncah jams... i say that a lot and the moment i thought id stop... *sigh*

omg u love survivor, charli xcx & blizzy mcguire ughh i lovee ❤❤❤

i agree wholeheartedly except for the boom clap slander

would you be open to talking about freddie gibbs any time soon

@AlfoMedia

Ай бұрын

that's a great idea freddiegibbsintern345

I really appreciate your videos, theres a very obvious love you have for music that makes me still want to watch, even when I disagree. On Charli XCX, I think there’s an exhaustion with the self-reference and self-awareness (not just with her with artists in general) the point is absolutely is to put a mirror up to this idea of “the it girl” and how even when diversity is celebrated, the it girl takes a few consistent forms. Celebrities have been utilizing this idea of self-reference to seem more relatable, and show they understand the way their fans perceive them. It was exciting at first, but culturally it seems like all we can do is look back. It also doesn’t seem to go deeper than showing that they “get it.” Still interesting to dissect, but exhausting. 6:50 The idea of the post ironic girlboss was such a good point. Anyway, didn’t mean to write an essay! Great video!

Btw Charli says she likes Boom Clap, and she said that is like a "bottom" ☠️

such a great video, awesome job

I just love Charli so much

Great take but man you just reminded me that I am old. Saying Survivor was on it's 46th season and I'm like, that show hasn’t been on almost as long as I've been in the world. Wasn’t aware they changed the definition of a TV season, it used to just mean 1 year.

u get it

Love the video but the video description 😭

@AlfoMedia

Ай бұрын

omg thank you i forgot to change it from my last video lmao

@satelliteimagerymusic

Ай бұрын

@@AlfoMedialet’s go I helped!!!

Charli XCX is one of my favorite "pop" artists and I fucking love her. She is next level good to me

ur wrong about i love it and boom clap those are pop classics idgaf

You really might like Voice Actor's 'Sent From My Telephone'

fancy and boom clap are amazing

The GTA remix of Iggy’s Fancy is absolutely a great song

i'm so obsessed with blizzy she deserves everything

It's a bop 🎉

you referencing Blizzy?? oh it's serious

Fancy was my SHI when it came out

This is a pretty funny video as someone outside of this bubble. I know Charlie XCX is a mythological figure in certain musical circles but I only know her as the girl who sang in 'Fancy'.

@kaspershaupt

Ай бұрын

bro i'm too confused

@W4TSKY

29 күн бұрын

Listen to any of the music she’s made in the last 5 years or so and you’ll get it.

damn has anyone already figured out what the name of the brat font is???

Fancy, Boom Clap, and I love ARE good songs btw.

Charli is just the queen of pop , real pop nowdays

nooo boom clap it's such a banger tho 😭

With the album concept being bratty and raw is exactly what she’s doing. Like if you don’t get it, you aren’t on the list and it’s the point. Not everything needs to be accessible/relatable. She’s being honest and bratty and it’s fun and aspirational. Also l think why Charli resonates with queer people is that she cherishes pop music. I respectfully disagree that most of her stuff is ironic. I think the magic is that she both genuinely loves the avante garde and she genuinely loves POP.

Never forget the collaboration with Mr. Oizo

This video is so chronically online I lost a few brain cells

@toxicemotions2888

6 күн бұрын

In a good way

I have a feeling brat is going to be huge and she will get mainstream recognition, maybe even to the point that people start disliking her because she‘s too hyped… Feel like she’s going to have her moment. I’m curious if I’m right

Charli XCX is the Stephen Fishbach of pop music.

The survivor first boot stans are a legit thing

I just read a comment: "idk she was still making music" at that lady at the record store pic when brat was released. like omg normies do exist and they do have an internet connection

if you agree and it is the point then why respect it? if the layers of irony or self awarenesss doesn't change the fact that the video and song is still very self-indulgent and hedonistic in my opinion, and there's nothing else more really, if there was any kind of commentary about internet fame and culture it is overshadowed by the fact that she's still trying to profit and get cloud to the song inviting as many internet girls she could get, there is really no difference with other popstar videos featuring so many celebrity cameos, and come on boy, i agree vroom vroom is a vast improvement, but this song is just really as annoying as boom clap, but she thinks she's cool and self-aware now... i agree with the person in the tweet

I knew everyone in 360 💅💅

Charli and Survivor in one video, this video was like designed to appeal to me

that comment you referenced just sounds like they're bitter about something no one else is mad about lol

I remember loving Boom Clap a ton before I listened to some of her other stuff, got absolutely blown away by Vroom Vroom, realizing HOLY SHIT WHAT HAVE I BEEN MISSING OUT ON and proceeded to listen to all her other stuff. Absolute GOAT

the phrase “the girl that get it get it” is literally the perfect example of this whole thing

“You are cool and you’re talking about how cool you are but it’s kind of a joke but not really but you’re kind of serious because you are cool but it’s not that serious you know? It’s a joke but it’s not but like slay mama jokingly but not still like slay please.” Actual art.