I wrote a book that's 1000 times as good as Matt's book. It's called One Trillion Americans

@52flyingbicycles

Жыл бұрын

Corusanct and Trantor ain’t got shit on me

@Savethepeople2004

4 ай бұрын

I fux with u on some real levels

A gazillion US citizens, guzzling coke n burgers, driving cars that go 12 miles to the gallon, consuming 150% of the world's resources, that's my dream future ....

I feel like he was given a random, intentionally absurd topic in debate club to try to argue for but, in the process, accidentally truly convinced _himself_ and then figured he’d just roll with it

@Savethepeople2004

4 ай бұрын

U know he's disturbed

Just trying to imagine the ecological toll 1 billion Americans would have. Just the environmental destruction from the newly necessitated residential development would make Chernobyl look like nothing. Combined with the carbon footprint, agrarian development, and general pollution, it could bring about the complete extinction of all multicellular life.

@trippersigs2248

2 жыл бұрын

This is an insane overstatement

@plantain.1739

2 жыл бұрын

@@trippersigs2248 Is it though?

@1tsrhodes

2 жыл бұрын

@@plantain.1739 to say nothing of how so far sustainable anything (food/living/whatever) still hasn't materialized, putting unfathomable pressure on existing resources is just a bafflingly stupid idea. Having 10 cats in a one bedroom apartment is a much better idea by comparison.

@trippersigs2248

2 жыл бұрын

@@plantain.1739 Yes. It's an absurd overstatement by someone who has zero idea what they're talking about. "Complete extintion of all multicellular life" stop being dramatic.

@ATMOSK1234

Жыл бұрын

True, some slime molds would surely thrive.

when we run out of topsoil the hellscape we leave behind will at least be densly populated

@lohollywood1f428

2 жыл бұрын

There'd sure be a lot of composting!

"As long as you're going to be thinking anyway, think big." - Donald Trump

Good on you for using the most flattering picture of Matty

@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276

2 жыл бұрын

I thought they mistakenly used a photo of a different person at first.

@comingupooo

2 жыл бұрын

His least egg-like photo

@acetate909

2 жыл бұрын

Two weeks to flatten the curve and One billion to flatter the perv

@fyt54321

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to believe this article passed friends and colleagues who couldn't bring themselves to tell him the truth. Even past an editor! And then he submits it for publication. Yglesias is so astonishingly dimwitted he has no idea how ludicrous and foolish it all is. So clueless he publishes this. On purpose. For everyone to see. How stupid he is. Amazing.

There should be a trillion Americans in Continental United States

@sambull2621

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck yeah, real life Modor let’s gooo

@CODMarioWarfare

2 жыл бұрын

maybe then, by the law of big numbers, I might finally get laid

@Savethepeople2004

4 ай бұрын

That's my line in the sand. One trillion.

"Is there cancel culture on the moon?" *Hearty chuckle from everyone there.*

1 billion Americans? How are we going to provide housing, living wage and healthcare for that many people? We can't even do that for the 350 million that we currently have because there is no political push or will to do that.

@abstractalien12345

11 күн бұрын

Yeah, with an economy three times bigger, how can we possibly provided for three times the people? Yglesias is a dolt but not being misanthropic about population has to be like his one good take

You could easily replace all the text in this book with pig noises

@johnsushi2007

Жыл бұрын

I feel like you could do that with most of Matt’s work.

Very funny how nervous Virgil acts throughout this, constantly interrupting Will and Matt to butt in. This has to be around the time he knew allegations were gonna surface and wanted to save his job lmfao

The one thing id want is for germany or just my hometown to be less densely populated, so this take is actually hilarious.

@zeamaiz945

2 жыл бұрын

WOW don't be such a NIMBY

@Cussy69_420

2 жыл бұрын

Sehe ich auch so.. Ich wohne in Hamburg und die Stadt und Speckgürtel explodiert hier!

@achnix3167

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cussy69_420 berlin auch.... Ging bloss alles noch schneller in den letzen jahren

Blud needs one billion sit ups

a billion? why? do we not have a large enough pool of exploitable labor already? what else would a country like this one do with increased populations??? 1 person can already produce what used to take 1000's yet we still have homelessness, hunger, alienation, a declining life-expectancy, low access to health care and education, a huge portion of the population constantly on the edge of poverty, oh yeah and somehow, unemployment, not to mention a climate crisis. hell, as of now we still have f-ing traffic jams for fcksakes. "has to challenge capitalism without discussing the actual issues and has to change it into a nationalist argument" - exactly, fuking exactly [paraphrased from matt like a 3rd of the way through]

I really enjoy living in a rural community and being able to grow some of my own food and give extra to others. I've lived my entire life like this, including childhood. They have eggs, we have veggies... Maybe soon we will have milk. Trying to get a dairy cow... I digress. I do not want to live in Mega City One, and I was thinking of that exact thing before I even started listening here.

@geekboy328

5 ай бұрын

YIMBY’s have no problem with sustainable rural living. It’s the suburbs that are the real problem…

I’m always thinking “What does the world urgently need more of?.. Americans.” Definitely. 🙄

We already have too many Americans

@ThatGuy-bh9qh

10 ай бұрын

Yeah South Americans

One Billion Gecs

Please do NOT turn NYS into Mega City 1. The Hudson Valley is bad enough with weekenders.

@greensheen8759

2 жыл бұрын

Kowloon Walled City but 200 stories tall 💀

So what you're saying is Matt Yglesias wrote a cookbook?

Yglesias stretched one bad idea for 288 pages, and got it published. Believe in your dreams kids.

“Everybody bout to be pregnant.” -Matt Yglesias

@june9914

2 жыл бұрын

Not just the women, but the men

Is this something that needed to be published?

god help me.... I really don't know about _more_ Americans, but we certainly don't need one _specific_ American...

Yeah, we can have people live sustainably in the roughly 1/3 of America that is desert.

@williamchamberlain2263

2 жыл бұрын

Plus side, the rotting corpses of the first few settler waves will fertilise the soil.

Matt Christman is on point in this one.

@linuxwizzerd5908

7 ай бұрын

he's usually pretty on point tbh him and Amber I like

So there was a; Missile gap, Psi gap. Now a "fucking gap"?

The weirdest thing about this is that it sounds like a proposal for left-wing social reforms prioritizing other aspects of human life over capital but completely divorced from left-wing ideologies & sold to the weird conservatives on 4chan (& now Twitter) who love yammering about birthrates.

@jayjayelectro5600

2 ай бұрын

Those replacement dorks would oppose it on environmental grounds just like this comment section. When North America fully integrates 1billion sounds like a reasonable number for its total population

"repofuckingduction"

I don't think it should be as much as increased population as population density. We'd be better off concentrating the population around urban areas, while changing wasteful consumption habits and shifting urban design towards being vmore dense, while leaving all the small towns to nature, completely abandoning them.

Yglesias: the smart guy for dummies. Btw, seems like Will was pretty through with Virgil already. "Do your own sh!t on your own time!"

21:11 such a great breakdown of yimby ideology by Matt

Population density too LOW?! Oh, forever more... I became worried in the 1960's about US overpopulation and urban sprawl. Our loss of productive farmland, as well as the loss of the uncrowded spaces that I so treasure(d). I was kind of thankful at the time that we hadn't (yet) reached numbers like those of China and India. I've been depressed about population for years. And now this crap. I don't feel all that much better after having finally given up hope. But I am relieved that I'm now very old and I'm almost dead. WASFingFed.

I do unironically want vastly more immigration

@sejwok2628

2 жыл бұрын

Counterpoint: nobody should have to live here

@WheresMyInhaler

4 ай бұрын

Oh so you’re Jewish then ?

an infinite number of americans

That’s what he looks like?!?!

I cannot tell Matt Yglesias from Josh Marshall, in terms of looks or online output. I think they may be the same person.

Bro really wants more "Lebensraum"

@diegowushu

2 жыл бұрын

That one was already done by way of the 'conquest of the west'. Ethnic cleansing and all.

USAians*

It’s submissive virtue capitalism, simping for the illusory politeness of moneyed institutions, such as plastic Disney developing. They wouldn’t knock out Central Park to build their shit Playskool condos with plastic climbing and rappelling walls, (“nature” currently suits their socio-optic hobbies), no instead they’d knock out historic architecture in a socioeconomically diverse area. And to feel good about it they’ll get some consulting firm to hire an art firm to paint a Unity/History mural on the five story rectangular condo/Medspa/elite daycare for infants prefab monstrosity.

@tewodrosii2875

2 жыл бұрын

....oh captian, my captain

its so annoying because i kind of agree with his conclusions but he arrives there in such a weird way

We don't even support what we have now Lol

26:00 ish - quoting the most well-known and well-used quotes in history has to my biggest pet-peeve. it absolutely SCREAMS, "while i am trying desperately to sound like i know something i couldnt be bothered to actually read or spend any other efforts educating myself", which implies they dont care about the truth-seeking intellectually-honest process required for meaningful inquiry. not to mention the amount of famous quotes are perched out of their historical and informational context (MLK's "I Have A Dream" and Adam Smith's "invisible hand" are the 2 most egregious examples i wish to nominate for the most abused of all time, thoughts?)

@jacobcurley4742

Жыл бұрын

Popular things are popular for a reason. I’m sorry you feel like not everyone did the assigned reading. Using Smith as one of your examples is especially crazy.

@philiprea8540

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobcurley4742 sorry, should have been more clear - there is nothing wrong with using popular famous sayings as long as they are used in the correct context. one requirement of successfully doing this is to use the popular phrase in a manner consistent with the original author's message. this is violated by the political right frequently now days through MLK's "i have a dream" line in attempts to ignore racial injustice in US society. as far as Adam Smith's "invisible hand", a term used all over the place to justify laisse-faire "free-market" based failed neo-liberal economics, users conveniently leave out Smith's passage found a few paragraphs down the page about the "vile maxim of the masters of mankind" which is "all for me, none for thee". Smith's point was about how markets and economies should be "freed" from the economic "rentiers" - those extracting rent, interest, and other fees that add nothing in the way of social benefit (or, incomes received without matching production costs) - and driven by real production and consumption beneficial to society. this is a FAR cry from how Smith's famous "invisible hand" statement is used today. in fact it is used to justify exactly the opposite of what he had in mind when he wrote it... im also not implying and elitism in assuming everyone should have done the "required reading". i am assuming, however, that those with a public voice that speak with an assumed authority stemming from a claimed expertise in a subject have done the required reading or, at least, take the time to make sure they are using their quotes honestly and correctly. it is not that everyone should be expected to have spent the time to be an expert on all matters effecting society. im actually saying the opposite, that everyone for whom those not well-versed listen to be expected to not mislead and take the time to actually consume the material in which their claimed authority is supposedly derived from... you got it twisted holmes and the people my criticism is directed at are deserving of it! intellectual cowardice, laziness, and incompetence starts wars and kills millions, people guilty of these traits should not only be criticized but held in vicious unrelenting contempt...

Birdbrain: the Book

I saw a documentary about this….Soylent Green

"weegar"

H1N1 Visa

It will mean a lot fewer people in other countries as 700 million new immigrants are needed in the USA.... So, bad for local environment, no difference for global climate?

@comradesillyotter1537

2 жыл бұрын

Americans consume a fck ton

@WattersWaveYo

2 жыл бұрын

I've read the book and it has some interesting ideas.

@TheTinyTimmyTimTim

2 жыл бұрын

Americans pollute more per capita than any country on earth except China, so it’d still be worse globally

Very bad idea.

Who is this Virgil guy

Classic

I can't wait to live in my Iglesias tube and eat bugs.

The authors have not seen 10% of USA, not to mention 1% of the World. One should eat/sleep/work not because it's a lunch and other things time but because our bodies need it.

it's a stupid idea but I kind of like it in spirit

What is a yimby

@lucindabreeding

2 жыл бұрын

Yes In My Backyard. As opposed to Not In My Backyard.

Is a big, big problem with Matt’s take. They aren’t enough white people that ever existed on planet earth to build that level of density. So, you have to depend on non-whites. Even if you can convince them to be second class citizens inside of an elite minority woolly ship, that wouldn’t last more than a few generations due to numbers. The birth rates of white people pacifically and just people living in the western world regardless of their race is a negative birth rate. This goes to say that this book in the eyes of people who more likely would never watch this channel or read Matt’s book, Is that it’s simply white explaining pontification on how to preserve power. Good luck with that fellas.

@MelGibsonFan

2 жыл бұрын

I thought something similar. Can’t imagine the insane reactionary backlash when Matty boy’s policy necessitates the import of millions upon millions of (let’s be honest) Hispanic immigrants. Every fucking candidate would some anti immigrant Trump style fascist.

31:15

Typo in the title, "CHapo"

This comes off super-anti immigration.

@josejaimes-ramos1546

2 жыл бұрын

It's more like having a billion people with all the bad habits of Americans would fuck the world. We waste a huge amount of food, electricity, water, and fuel just as we are. A billion Americans means either a huge wave of deprivation and desperation at home, or an increased drive to overexploit the rest of the world to make ourselves comfortable. The true fix to the immigration issue would be to stop interfering with other nations politics, aside from investment and stabilizing missions. Not a lot of immigrants I know would've left if they could Iive at home while making a living wage.

@IziahThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@josejaimes-ramos1546 Completely unrelated. I'm in support of everything you just said. However: 1. Ending US interference will not mean that every country will have living wages 2. I know tons of immigrants who were living comfortably in their countries, but were allured by the idea of America. Now, you can with have a stance that these and any folks should be allowed to enter freely, no matter their reason or you support some restrictive regime that treats, especially poor immigrants, like second class citizens and uses hypervigilant security to keep them out.

@willed6029

Жыл бұрын

Im confused, who is anti immigration here? A direct quote from Mattys book is “we must decide which kind of immigrants to let in”… this is blatantly anti immigration disguised as pragmatic immigration policy. He wants to create an even more classist american state with only the most useful, exploitable, and american-soluble immigrants inside of it. Its not about free movement or equality to him, it’s just opportunism.

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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So they agree with Yglesias' domestic policy prescriptions... but disagree with him about allowing people to immigrate here?

@tewodrosii2875

2 жыл бұрын

How on gods green earth did you come to this conclusion? My god, why must you take EVERYTHING as bad faith?

worst takes i've heard from these guys. good thing they're not the guys in power

Nothing says 'greatest country in the world' like 600 million George Floyds

@rvbvftc

Жыл бұрын

?

I love these guys but they're dead wrong here. The world can sustain a *lot* more people, and the US is a very, very sparsely populated country.

@zeitgeist2720

Жыл бұрын

You’re dead wrong