"Half a loaf is better than no bread." A plug-in hybrid with over 100 km of range is going to spend most of its time without starting the booster engine. It's a step towards an EV. Personally I'd much rather drive a plug-in hybrid than a full EV with EV range limitations as they are and limited recharging options away from home. I think this is the practical application of battery power at the moment.

@MADDENCN

3 ай бұрын

Cheaper replacement for battery incase of battery failure and you can go on long trips with a phev wo having to plan to recharge..

@carusmike

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree.

It would be under serious consideration for Ute buyers in Australia provided they had a good service offering to back it up. The interior is so much better than anything else the lazy old incumbents offer.

South Africa is also a very big market for these UTES (Bakkies). Ranger & Hilux get manufactured in SA and exported to NZ, UK, etc. Love to have the Changan in SA.

@Smite-MeisterEd

3 ай бұрын

In South Africa we're getting Gwm P500/Shanghai Cannon hybrid this year. Would love the Changan for competition sake

@etienne6641

3 ай бұрын

@@Smite-MeisterEd Foton is also coming to SA with some bakkies. I’ve seen them in China. They will definitely be competitive especially the top spec version. Nearly looks like a RAM truck. 😆

You can get a basic Ford Ranger for $35,000 in Australia. If this Changan Hunter came in at $29,000 for a base model, it would eat the Ranger and Hilux for lunch

@caljeff2427

3 ай бұрын

there is a whole lot more Utes, than the spec sheet.

HURRAY!! Finally someone with a BRAIN in his head. PHEV pickups are PRECISELY what the world needs, especially in North America, particular in remote regions and during winter. Are you listening Ford and GM??? We don't want your [insert expletive] BEV pickups. So turn them into a PHEV machines with decent city all-EV mileage, and watch your sales eclipse that PS CT. Changan Hunter pick up configuration: 10/10. This is something I can get excited about.

Love it 👍 Wish the Ranger came with this configuration for Canada, or any pickup this size for that matter. Cheers

I used to like the extra tray length you got on a super rather than crew cab but in Europe that meant poverty spec. The short bed length has always been a bugbear of mine on Crew Cabs. This is a great move!

I think for utes and 4wds an erev or phev with a 100-120km range is a good way to start electrification at a reasonable price. Unfortunately, battery energy density and cost as well as charging infrastructure are just not there yet for larger vehicles with ATR tyres especially if they are towing. Looking forward to seeing BYD's Bao 5 and its ute equivalent in Australia.

Two points. First, if it is an EREV (or EVER) so you usually can't combine the power output. Second, the highway range can be realistic, as that range is from the combustion engine and combustion engines produce best range on the highway.

I have a Mitsubishi outlander Phev, it's brilliant, I regularly get 90 km of a charge, which I do from my solar/power wall, average 1.5l/100, The main disincentive for a EV is the fact that your range will drop off dramatically if you hit a strong headwind or go up hill,

I would love to see this in the USA market. I would consider it an option if accompanied by a dialed in tech support reputation 🐾🐾🐾🙂

1,030 km Range. Bring it on.

I always enjoy your videos Sam but it has become fairly apparent that Chinese prices mean very little in the rest of the World. If any vehicle makes it outside of China, the Chinese understandably try to claw back some margin and thenTaxes, etc increase the price. Especially in Europe and very much in the UK.

I think it is great you are expanding your perspective to consider other types of vehicles than BEVs ; thought you've touched on hydrogen. One thing that is possible but rarely touched on is a hybrid can use 100% or part ethanol if properly designed or bio diesel which are considered renewable. Brazil has vehicles in use that use very little fossil fuel.

@Harrythehun

3 ай бұрын

The issue is the emissions from a combustion engine. The particles and gases is not any better for the environment nor the humans. Still causes cancer, lung and heart diseases

@litestuffllc7249

3 ай бұрын

@@Harrythehun Harry; maybe some vehicles have that sort of issue; particulary pre catalytic converter cars - don't your vehilces where you are have catalytic converteres on the exaust? This burns up at very high temp anything not burned in the cars engine. I have a Honda; which puts out air from the exaust that is better quality air than then ambient air. It consists of only water and CO2. Gas is hydrocarbons - there isn't anything but that in it.

@Harrythehun

3 ай бұрын

@@litestuffllc7249 hahaha who has told you those lies. Why not let them fumes flow into the cabin. The dieselgate was a scam?

@litestuffllc7249

3 ай бұрын

@@Harrythehun en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight; you could gather your facts first before you presume things are lies; so there is Wiki you'll find it emits only 80 gram of CO2 per kilometer and water; thats it; yes you could have ti go into the cabin after it was through the catalytic converter but it would be very hot inside.

If plug in hybrid has 100 km range electric only 80% of the time -never have to to use the ice engine

It's about time you expanded on All variables concerning EV's.

When analyzing the new plug-in hybrid system that the Hunter - which is based on the Fiat Titano - has received, the big curiosity is that the combustion engine part of the drive is not a petrol engine but a diesel engine. More precisely, a 2.0-liter four-cylinder with 190 horsepower, assisted by two electric motors - one on each axle. The electric motor on the rear axle is the one that provides all-wheel drive. The battery pack has a capacity of 31.2 kWh and offers an electric range of 180 km...probably CLTC.

@isahidris

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean by "is not a petrol engine"? Is Gasoline not petrol!

LDV will be having an all electric 'proper' ev pick up coming next year, I have seen pictures of one and it does look very good. I have a Ranger at the mo' plus an mg ev for my around town runabout, if I could have one vehicle instead of 2, it should make more economic sense. To replace my wildtrak they want over $70k NZ. I plug in my mg at home and it costs a pittance to run compared to my diesel, and of course there is no tailpipe emissions. We pick up the grandkids from day care in the mg for that reason.

This is very good Idea but I think the design can be even more functional by emphasizing ruggedness and modification vs refinement, its to nice looking. IF type of platform could be More like the Toyota IMV O it would dominate the rural developing market as the electrify storage/distribution function and the ability to be charged by solar panels in the country is going to near the value of its use as a vehicle for transporting people a goods to market. It would sell like crazy in southeast Asia. middle east, central Asia , Africa and south America... Also if you can design these types of trucks to easily disassembled and package so then can be transportable via containers it would rapidly expand their market distribution.

EV is ultimately better but in the meantime this can at least clean up the air in cities. But a big question: is it going to be tempting to forget about charging it?

Think of the rural developing world market its not affluent but it will pay for tools that will in time pay for themselves. The rural utility market will do things to your vehicle to make them more useful, they will want to take power direct from the drive train to power pumps, threshers, bailing machines and other equipment make that easy to do so. The rural utility market will haul and tow much more weight then you think possible so build extra rugged and tough frames, suspensions and torque connections. The Rural utility market does not care about air resistance they are moving slow on dirt roads through brush, mud and gravel so make the body panels tough with angles that resist impact damage and are easily removable cause those country folk are going to be taking and adding things to the vehicle.. Make the interior capable of withstand the elements direct like a jeep cause the doors might be removed to carry more cargo..

Current electric pickup's are not the way to go. Better to purchase an EREV, PHEV or Strong Hybrids as they have instant torque, range and weight for safer towing/hauling

Bit all I want is a tray-top with 2 doors and a tray that will carry a pallet of sheet material 2.5m long.

Changan Auto is a state-owned manufacture with a joint ventures with Ford and Mazda. Wonder if Ford will rebadge this model in other markets? Updated Ford Maverick anyone?

Good stuff. Actually I can't find a single channel dedicated to PHEVs and HEVs. I guess they aren't interesting enough, but I'd be happy to see a world that has transitioned to 100% electrification of all kinds. If market share was 40% BEV, 20%PHEV and 40% HEV that would be a great intermediate point before we all follow Norway. And anything that kills diesel asap has to be a good thing, and PHEV in the meantime does exactly that.

Sam, I love the Changan, but I can't buy one! I had to surrender and buy an old Toyota tacoma, hylux in other countries. Waited 2 years but could not wait any longer, sadly still polluting buying gasoline.

Plug in hybrids are the best of both worlds. That’s what I want!

It's an EREV not a PHEV. All wheels, RWD or AWD, are driven by electric motors. The petrol engine charges the battery and that's all it does. It is a foregone conclusion that a pure EV version of this will appear in time. It will be built on the same production line as the EREV because while an EREV is an impure EV it is nonetheless architecturally an EV and not just another hybrid horror. The petrol range extender is only required for long trips - not great but better than a HEV or PHEV. For any pickup owner incapable of releasing their grip on the petrol security blanket this should more than suffice.

Cheers mate

Now make a 'compact' pickup hybrid version... like the old original Ford Ranger, Mazda, Nissan and Toyota. Like many others I was very annoyed about conspiracy to stop making and selling compacts back about 15 years ago. The new so-called Ford Ranger is just F150 in a different suit... and much higher price. Used original Rangers are now selling at half their original price... or more... even with high mileage because people want them. Hopefully the Chinese or maybe Japanese will wake up and realize there is still a huge demand for something other than these parking lot behemoths.

Nice

I feel like a bit of a let down, you exclude dual fuel for all your stats on EV sales, but the lack of pickup trucks has driven you to fold on hybrid pickups.

@nevco8774

3 ай бұрын

This truck being a PHEV, is a good pure EV range vehicle. It looks like it is an inverse engineered Stelantis vehicle.

@monkeysezbegood

3 ай бұрын

A reasonable position for now

Check out the vinfast ute

Load capacity of the truck however is a a bit low 495 kg, similar to that of a Toyota Hilux Ute but half of Ford Ranger and Navarra. Tradies might not like that. Also couldn't find towing capacity

Henry Fords example of a plug in hybrid would have been a Model T towing a horse float with a horse in it. These modern examples are just as ridiculous as time will tell 😂😂😂😂

You cannot add generator power to drive motor power. Thats not how it works

They will triple the price outside China.

Can you provide more details about the powertrain? Is this a parallel or serial PHEV, ie., are the wheels driven by a combination of ICE and electric power or are they driven by electric motors only where power comes from the battery only in all electric mode and from ICE powered generator plus battery power in hybrid mode. Both have their pros and cons. I prefer the serial approach (like the Chevy Volt) for its EV like driving characteristics but it is less efficient and more expensive than a parallel hybrid. However a serial hybrid could support electric only driving for 80-90% of the light duty use cases and still be capable of supporting the remaining high load, long range use cases and retain the premium EV like drive characteristics. Stellantis has announced a full size PHEV pickup that will be based around a serial hybrid drive train. GM has moved forward with its own PHEV pickup development to meet this challenge. Presumably also using a serial PHEV approach as they have extensive experience in this area with the Volt.

@deepseer

3 ай бұрын

Almost all Chinese PHEVs are series or series-parallel. This one is series.

bro gave in into PHEV. Praising Toyota Hybrid up next 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@deepseer

3 ай бұрын

If only it has a plug. Most Toyota's hybrids have no plug, and their plug-in hybrids are not only expensive but also fuel inefficient (compared to Chinese PHEVs).

@miraphycs7377

3 ай бұрын

@@deepseer PHEV in nature is less fuel efficient than regular hybrid especially after the battery is exhausted because it is heavier. And you cannot directly compare Chinese fuel efficiency EV range standard vs those of EPA and come to conclusion

@deepseer

3 ай бұрын

@@miraphycs7377 ​1. Larger battery enables vehicles to use more efficient powertrain that keeps the engine work at optimal condition for longer period. A non-plugin hybrid must periodically start and stop the engine at low speed. During the starting phase it is very inefficient. PHEV can start the engine much less frequently. 2. You can compare Chinese standards because China is phasing out NEDC and switching to WLTC. For example, BYD's Song Plus DM-i PHEV has a NEDC range of 150km and a WLTC range of 116km - about 20% decrease. Therefore, if you see a Chinese vehicle with 150km NEDC range, it is almost certain that this has longer range than a vehicle with 100km WLTC range.

I would replace my gas car and truck for one really nice electric truck.

Sam is definitely pivoting !!! 😂😂😂😂😂 what a hypocrite !!

@3210randy

3 ай бұрын

What a ridiculous comment to make hybrid Ute is a great idea especially like myself where I travel long distances monthly towing a trailer

If it tows 3.5 ton it would sell.... it's just annoying how lugging around the engine that won't get used that often will kill the efficiency

@justinr9753

3 ай бұрын

1800 lb battery is better?

@bwarey52

3 ай бұрын

@@justinr9753 exactly, hybrid is the worst of both worlds but certain applications need it unfortunately with current range and limitations

First ever pick up truck??? Strange title

Should be good with Huawei partnering...at least if you breakdown or get stuck or even just have a conversation you know you will never be alone. PS Sam a single cab trayback 4x4 will do.

"Affordable".Not in my view,I expect.

There many hybrid trucks in Ford,Ram,Gm,Chevy ,Toyota,Honda and Hyundai lineup they are real 4x4 not the more which breaks every 299 miles 🎉

Phev's with 25-30 mile of electric-only range never made sense. Absolutely nobody uses the electric part

99 percent of pickup drivers dont need a huge pickup, they just like to feel large and imposing in traffic, you shoukd be ashamed of yourself for this video.

Afternoon mate

If the Changan Hunter has V2L and V2G then it will be massive in Australia.

Sam. Why are you promoting a plug-in? Do you need money that bad?

@lesliecarter4295

3 ай бұрын

Probably had orders from his Chinese minders ?

@JapanQuest

3 ай бұрын

He went all-on on EV stocks😂 Tsla and Chinese stocks got rekt.

@lpdirv

3 ай бұрын

This will convert a lot of people that need the extra range and towing. Same as the ram charger. Still will be 90% electric daily.

@-whackd

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Not cool to stop every 100 miles when pulling your boat to charge. Although the gas costs are insane for both the truck and the boat for a weekend. ​@@lpdirv

@gregdean8441

3 ай бұрын

He always wants money who doesn't really !

Bloke who slated hybrids now promoting them 😂

Chinese manufacturers won't support their products

BYD pickup top model is way better than this. should be less than 100k.

Changan rumoured to be near to failure,financially.

Take a look at the Ford Maverick Hybrid. Basically the same. In fact looks like they copied the Maverick completely. Identical.

@lime6862

3 ай бұрын

It could be the same platform since Changan and Ford have had a long partnership and share parts, technologies and are built within the same factories.

BEV or nothing

Why 140 kW generator? That’s the dingbat crazy part. Generator just needs to trickle charge battery, cover all the drag for average speed, a bit of head wind. A 25 kW generator would be enough if frugal. Then why is electric drive pretty wimpy? Cost of electric horses is cheap, it’s a great marketing ploy. ** I get it’s Asia, not USA. For a truck, hybrid, I’d advise 50-60 kWh battery (about half of cybertruck 123 kWh) for electric only range to be useful, otherwise it’s ICE. PS. Don’t add the two "power" if it’s a generator - that’s dumb & dumber. Parallel hybrid? Gearbox? Physical drive?

quality is just terrible.

@mutyabaivandavid103

3 ай бұрын

Am just tired of comments like this from people who have not tested the product at all just biasness only