Challenges of Building an Electric Log Truck: The Hunt for North American Axles

We share the behind-the-scenes journey of trying to source North American-made axles, electric motors, and gear-driven sets for our electric log truck project. We embarked on a mission to find components closer to home, but the reality hit hard-we couldn't find a single one!
In this video, we spill the beans on our attempts to collaborate with a company, only to face challenges in purchasing their electric axles due to being a non-OEM retrofit. The struggle was real, and we even tried reaching out to multiple suppliers, only to hit roadblocks.
Undeterred, we decided to take matters into our own hands. We custom-spec'd and had our axles built for Edison, ensuring they meet our standards and are ready to power our electric log truck. The entire supply chain is now secured, and spare parts are just a click away.
Join us as we dive deep into the technical details of these custom axles, showcasing the engineering brilliance behind them. From planetary rear ends to the powerful 250-kilowatt electric motors, we cover it all. Plus, we address the challenges of syncing axles without traditional interaxle lockers, revealing the innovative solutions we've implemented.
And hold on tight for a surprising twist! We unintentionally opened up new possibilities for loggers by providing them with the power to tackle steeper blocks. It seems our quest for efficiency inadvertently led to increased access to challenging terrain.
So, buckle up for an adventure filled with unexpected turns, challenges, and triumphs as we build the Edison electric log truck from the ground up. Don't forget to hit that like button, subscribe for more updates, and join us on this electrifying journey! ⚡🚚
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Founded by Chace Barber and Eric Little in 2016, Edison Motors is a testament to the trucking spirit. Beginning with a 1969 Kenworth Logging Truck named "Old Blue," they journeyed from Merritt, BC, hauling logs to the Yukon and drilling rigs in Alberta. Frustrated with newer trucks, they rebuilt classics from the frame up, expanding into power generation and off-grid solar systems in 2019. Their journey led to the creation of the Edison Truck, a robust electric truck tailored to logging and heavy vocational industries.
🔩 Upgrade Without Replacing: Edison Electrification Kit 🔩
Keep trucks on the road longer with the Edison Electrification kit. Upgrade your driveline to electric without replacing the entire truck. Ideal for vocational applications, this kit is a cost-effective solution. Unlike other electric trucks, Edison Motors offers customer choice. Choose between Rebuilding (utilizing existing cab and frame rails) or Remanufacturing (brand new frame and chassis).
🚚 Payload Efficiency: The Weight Balance 🚚
Edison Trucks match the weight of a normal diesel truck. With reduced motor weight and additional fuel balancing out battery weight, experience efficiency and increased payload capacity. The L series, though slightly heavier, remains comparable to a normal diesel truck.
🛠️ Keep Your Equipment with Rebuilt Trucks 🛠️
For vocational trucks, keep your equipment with a rebuilt truck. Edison's e-pto and control system integrate seamlessly. No need to replace your entire body when upgrading to an electric truck.
🔧 Bespoke Manufacturing: Handcrafted to Your Needs 🔧
The manufacturing process at Edison Motors is a testament to their commitment to customer satisfaction. Each Edison Truck undergoes a meticulous five-step process, from frame and rolling chassis preparation to final touches and rigorous testing. The focus is on building a truck that reflects the customer's requirements, embracing the philosophy of "Building The Truck Of The Future With The Quality Of The Past."
🔌 Electric or Diesel-Electric: Your Power, Your Choice 🔌
Edison Motors offers both fully electric and diesel-electric vocational trucks based on customer demands. The onboard generator ensures continuous operation in areas lacking charging infrastructure.
💡 Advantages of Electric: Power, Torque, Longevity 💡
Edison Trucks bring increased power, torque, reliability, and longevity. Inspired by electric freight trains, regenerative ability harnesses energy for efficient uphill climbs.
⚙️ Efficiency Redefined: Diesel-Electric Technology ⚙️
Diesel-electric technology delivers peak load demand energy supply. Batteries initiate movement, and the diesel generator recharges the battery, capturing braking energy for restarts. The generator's constant RPM eliminates turbo lag.
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  • @mdc503
    @mdc503 Жыл бұрын

    “Instead of being a customer, we became competition.”, I love it! I am so excited for you guys. Just amped!

  • @Neojhun

    @Neojhun

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like the problems Rimac Automobili had. Now they are a supplier.

  • @wahyuhidayat-jo1zb

    @wahyuhidayat-jo1zb

    7 ай бұрын

    It's just make manufacture goes down when there are no collaboration 😢

  • @trentlewis1473
    @trentlewis1473 Жыл бұрын

    I will never understand why some companies only wish to deal with the big name brands. Every company has started small and it's regrettable that so many have forgotten that you have to start somewhere. Keep doing what you're doing , I look forward to the day when they see what a fantastic opportunity they have missed out on.

  • @mattlane2282

    @mattlane2282

    Жыл бұрын

    3 years out... they do not need the business...

  • @99snubby

    @99snubby

    Жыл бұрын

    Because the deep state is trying to kill small business

  • @infernaldaedra

    @infernaldaedra

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mattlane2282they got bigger fish to fry clearly

  • @IIGrayfoxII

    @IIGrayfoxII

    Жыл бұрын

    Because they're scared that they could piss off the big companies. Some big companies do cancel contracts with manufactures due to them selling parts to some small company.

  • @fuckinted7372

    @fuckinted7372

    Жыл бұрын

    sounds like the government

  • @ArK047
    @ArK047 Жыл бұрын

    North American manufacturing needs a renaissance, but until then I hope your supply chains and production works out!

  • @tdwebste

    @tdwebste

    Жыл бұрын

    Canada needs to retain its Engineers, so that it can engage in automated manufacturer. To be competitive Canada needs to loosen Patents on goods used in manufacturing within Canada.

  • @liuyifei1989

    @liuyifei1989

    Жыл бұрын

    Its called outsourcing and it's simply cheaper for corporations to manufacture products overseas. Since labor is significantly cheaper in other countries. Furthermore the supply chain is very integrated for overseas for manufacturing. It would take billions of dollars for relocate manufacturing back to North America. It just doesn't make any financial sense. Furthermore, it keeps cots low for everyone. Would you pay 50% or 70% more for a product only because is made in Canada ? Lol

  • @liuyifei1989

    @liuyifei1989

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@tdwebste it has nothing to do with that, it's all about lower cost with manufacturing overseas.

  • @tdwebste

    @tdwebste

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liuyifei1989 Tried hiring top graduate engineers from Canadian University? Many Canadian Universities have great undergrad COOP programs giving companies access to students and giving student work experience. But Canadians Universities lack equivalent programs for graduates students. The US has paid Graduate Student internships. Which means it Canada spends a lot of money on Engineering talent only to give it away. Why is Canada more expensive? Cannot retain skills and cost of working is much higher, due to high housing cost near manufacturers. I have relatives with factories in China and workers simply don't have the expenses so can be paid a lot less and still have money to buy the most expensive Iphones and other luxury items.

  • @agerrgerra1361

    @agerrgerra1361

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liuyifei1989 I worked for a company that moved some electronics manufacturing to a facility in Mexico, I think the driving reason was that it avoids the overseas tariffs charged on components from China, since Mexico is part of the NAFTA/USMCA. There could be some benefit in diversifying manufacturing that way, but that's another debate.

  • @ChainringTours
    @ChainringTours Жыл бұрын

    I don't know where you are in ability to have extra employees, but PLEASE consider having your own person in China at the factory that double checks things. Not a person they hire for you, someone who's paycheck comes directly from you, who is paid better than most people so they want to keep the job. That way you can have someone giving you the real situation, doing a double check of the inspections, etc. I used a factory there for clothing and I wished I had someone there to look over things. You have to think what the cost of air freighting replacements, the cost of the delays, the other issues. It may not be worth it now without production happening, but in time it might be worth it.

  • @kiyosenl.3889

    @kiyosenl.3889

    Жыл бұрын

    Ive heard of quite a few companies doing this, gotta say as someone who once spent a year fixing chinese factory f*ck ups in the machine shop its better to have someone there catch it first, and the owner of the company never enjoyed getting a call at 2 am from a chinese guy literally saying "we make better" as it always means they tried to change something and your next few shipments will be ruined

  • @davidelliott5843

    @davidelliott5843

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you work to CE (European) standards? Can I see your quality procedures? Ah so. Yes we do CE. Where you want the sticker?

  • @outintheboondocks1466

    @outintheboondocks1466

    9 ай бұрын

    Working with a bro who has tons of experience in China I can tell you that this is excellent advice! It's called the law of diminishing quality, and it's a real thing! They'll give you the absolute best to show you what they can do but they'll start to scrimp and cut corners when they think they can get away with it.

  • @orbatos

    @orbatos

    8 ай бұрын

    This is a really good point. Active oversight really is necessary both to keep an eye on them and to build long term relationships.

  • @markmatt9174

    @markmatt9174

    5 ай бұрын

    Company I worked for (last day was last Friday) bought almost all our stuff from China. Having a good Importer who speaks Chinese and English is invaluable. Agree w above people our owners dad went there often he's 82 now & still talking about his next trip

  • @jordanabendroth6458
    @jordanabendroth6458 Жыл бұрын

    I love that you just decided to say "screw it, I'll do it myself" to the big manufacturer when they decided to be unreasonable.

  • @slunasaurusrex
    @slunasaurusrex Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on finally getting axles! The only reliability issue I foresee with the integrated motor is that it's part of the unsprung mass so it's going to be bouncing up and down with the axles across bumps. One thing electronics hate is vibrations. I hope any PCB's or other electronics in the drive unit are silastic'd and potted up like crazy. I can see solder connections fatigue failing and causing issues with this design. But I'm sure you guys are already way ahead of me with that ! keep it up!

  • @Birdman3131

    @Birdman3131

    Жыл бұрын

    Not saying don't pot it as this does feel like a situation where it might be warranted but I see it being used as anti repair more often than circuit protection.

  • @orbatos

    @orbatos

    8 ай бұрын

    Further testing with seen some modifications I'm sure, but the issues you are worried about are historically handled via a combination of mechanical connections, solder, support and strain relief. Solder by itself is not usually considered structurally sound in industrial application.

  • @oldfarthacks

    @oldfarthacks

    5 ай бұрын

    The B2 Bomber has a situation where the vibrations in the electronics bays is around 17 Gs of random vibration. The electronics there were built to take that. The vibration levels in these axles will be far less than that. As to unsrung weight, that will again not be a problem. These are Heavy Trucks, running at low speeds. They are not F1 race cars. The tires will stay on the ground just fine. But indeed, congrats to Edison for getting a product that they can use to build their product. Now they just need to move to bring it in house in the long run, as Tesla is doing with their products. Henry Ford was right about the best model for manufacturing is to bring raw materials in at one end and have finished product pop out the other.

  • @bigguy78246
    @bigguy78246 Жыл бұрын

    Props to visiting the factory. Easy to spot issues at the source. Can’t wait to see it moving this down the road.

  • @GWIZZ2
    @GWIZZ27 ай бұрын

    Nice work guys! I haul logs in Alberta, I have often dreamed of this type of system. Having powered axles on the trailers would reduce spinning out (empty or loaded), cut down on truck assist by pulling or pushing with the dozer or other machine, reduce chain up, eliminate dropped drivelines, greatly improve safety on the road, improve efficiency with regenerative breaking and more. We are pulling king b sets with 85000kg gross. I see this technology being the norm within a decade. You are carrying out the work that Letourneau started in the 50s. Keep up the good work.

  • @JonesDieselPerforman
    @JonesDieselPerforman Жыл бұрын

    We used to make damn near everything we needed In Canada IN CANADA

  • @danielkingery2894

    @danielkingery2894

    Жыл бұрын

    You didn't used to vote for the folks that have been voted for over the last two decades either....

  • @TheRustiestShackleford

    @TheRustiestShackleford

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielkingery2894if you think they voted for Trudeau, you’re outta your mind. The Canadian government is controlled by the same backstage string pullers as the US government. We didn’t vote for Biden. Our vote has never mattered!

  • @celuler22

    @celuler22

    Жыл бұрын

    America is in the same boat its impossible to compete with slave labor

  • @kiyosenl.3889

    @kiyosenl.3889

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@celuler22 its also hard to compete with a country that ignores all human rights laws, patent laws, and who hacks into companies stealing intellectual property and other sensitive data and who has literally directly hacked and stolen combined trillions of dollars from companies, its not just labor costs that have brought and kept manufacturing in china, its economic warfare

  • @noticer3721

    @noticer3721

    Жыл бұрын

    @@celuler22 It is possible to compete with slave labor, we do it everyday by not purchasing garbage Chinese tier products and instead purchase American made. However that doesn't mean there isn't a massive amount of idiots gobbling up the garbage.

  • @TheRedMekanik
    @TheRedMekanik Жыл бұрын

    For the powered trailer idea, I wonder if the trailer company that pressed the frame rails would be interested in collaboration. They could be a cool resource to help develop that tech.

  • @dogefort8410

    @dogefort8410

    Жыл бұрын

    Edison Emergency Trailer Traction. I'm calling it. Slap on a wireless button in the cab and have traction assist when needed, but not otherwise. Instant adding EV horsepower to otherwise unmodified classic diesel trucks, once the concept is proven WAY easier to sell Edison Hybrids to these truckers after putting some miles on that kind of rig.

  • @olivergunn2796

    @olivergunn2796

    Жыл бұрын

    Look at what krone in collaboration with trailer dynamics are doing in Germany, a trailer with a giant electric motor on the middle axle with either a 400 or 600 kWh battery underneath It has a sensor on the kingpin that detects how hard the trailer is being pulled and uses that data in combination with map data of hills to assist in the most effective way, this is a good idea for backwards compatibility but I think they should develop some cambus interface so the truck or the driver can fully control it, especially for regenerative breaking and low speed traction aid

  • @whodahellru8124

    @whodahellru8124

    Жыл бұрын

    @@olivergunn2796 they can also add in some yaw rate sensors and control vehicle/trailer dynamics to avoid jackknifing or excessive sway. Possibly even torque vectoring for steering.

  • @peterlanum

    @peterlanum

    Жыл бұрын

    I had a hydrostatic drive on the trailer, but this is better.

  • @guentherwilke2055

    @guentherwilke2055

    8 ай бұрын

    @@olivergunn2796 For on-road use, I think trailer mounted batteries are a much better solution that truck mounted. That way the trailer can be charged at the dock. Then you can run the low, constant loads off the trailer battery and only use the truck battery for surge use.

  • @Wyomingfarmer
    @Wyomingfarmer Жыл бұрын

    Powered axles on ag trailers would be neat! I'm sure logging and construction trailers could be helpful too

  • @jwiereng

    @jwiereng

    Жыл бұрын

    There are some agriculture trailers that are powered.

  • @deansmits006

    @deansmits006

    Жыл бұрын

    Trailers with batteries and drive units may become popular among some industries. Turns any truck into a hybrid if done right. And can provide power out!

  • @1979augistine
    @1979augistine Жыл бұрын

    Ahh finally the video works and got fixed . I wish these young guys the absolute best these young fellas deserve the world . Cant wait to see these trucks up and working

  • @Jaeswindell
    @Jaeswindell Жыл бұрын

    Those cast aluminum casings will be dangerously close to the ground, you may want to armor them to prevent a rock or large stick from ruining your day.

  • @Adam1nToronto

    @Adam1nToronto

    Жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if they could be clocked upright, to be over the axle centreline instead of fore or aft of it.

  • @crinkly.love-stick

    @crinkly.love-stick

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Adam Ant that may require the oil and cooling systems be redone, but it's doable

  • @fraserhenderson7839

    @fraserhenderson7839

    5 ай бұрын

    Regular logging trucks don't seem to damage axles due to ground impact. They will be used on "logging roads". These "roads" are also suitable for ordinary sized trucks. I don't imagine these log hauler trucks will go "off road", just up and down mountains and on highways to a mill. Furthermore, the absence of mechanical driveline will result in a large weight reduction and a huge maintenance reduction. This man is a log truck operator. He knows what will break.

  • @Airsoftbros888

    @Airsoftbros888

    5 ай бұрын

    @@fraserhenderson7839they’re literally called off road trucks.. yes logging road and spurs and have ground clearance issues and rocks can fall off cliffs. I am also a log trucker myself which due to these guys is getting wilt of hype these days..

  • @overzealousmaverik
    @overzealousmaverik Жыл бұрын

    It's so awesome to see this. I have wondered for years why diesel electric was not an option in semis. Great job!

  • @merlepatterson
    @merlepatterson7 ай бұрын

    That truck is so outlandishly awesome.

  • @vf12497439
    @vf124974397 ай бұрын

    Thank you for working through these problems. Only a real driver can appreciate what’s needed for a real truck to operate.

  • @lbeck119
    @lbeck119 Жыл бұрын

    You guys are the "Tucker" of the logging truck world.... Keep pushing

  • @Joe-xq3zu
    @Joe-xq3zu7 ай бұрын

    Chase: With powered trailers life would be a lot easier for the truckers! Mill operators: So what you're saying is that we could send trucks into traditionally inaccessible areas now? Chase: [surprised Pikachu Face]

  • @SomeGuyNamedRoman
    @SomeGuyNamedRoman Жыл бұрын

    We are rooting for Edison motors! This is amazing. Great job you guys!

  • @Freeloves_Whipps
    @Freeloves_Whipps Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the axles!!! You will be manufacturing your own in no time.

  • @bhavjotkang8004

    @bhavjotkang8004

    Жыл бұрын

    that would be a terrible idea. u simply cant compete with chinese manufacturing. unless u got buyer willing to pay double price for a ev truck

  • @langdons2848

    @langdons2848

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@bhavjotkang8004 a friend of mine runs a consumer electronics company. They a currently bringing a lot of their parts manufacturing back to Australia as when you take into account the cost of managing the manufacturing off shore (which you have to do constantly), dealing with poor quality control, shipping delays etc, even though labour is generally cheaper in China, it didn't necessarily translate into a better or cheaper end result.

  • @noticer3721

    @noticer3721

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bhavjotkang8004 "u simply cant compete with chinese manufacturing" Ya, thanks Chang. I'm sure it's impossible right?

  • @darcyfunk
    @darcyfunk Жыл бұрын

    A few years ago I sponsored a design project for the University of Calgary's Schulich School of Engineering Capstone final project: an e trailer complete with regen. My brother and I had the same idea at the same time... Our collective conclusion was that it made the most sense to develop for heavy transport first. I wish you every success and hope to see an Edison tractor trailer unit in its natural habitat soon! Cheers!

  • @deansmits006

    @deansmits006

    Жыл бұрын

    I imagine that an e-trailer makes more sense in particular work loads, is this correct? Long haul vs regional, heavy loads vs lighter loads. Charging infrastructure?

  • @Shirazzikkdh
    @Shirazzikkdh Жыл бұрын

    Totally nerding out over the axles, being an ex flatbedder myself. Wish I could work with you.

  • @fancentral4662

    @fancentral4662

    Жыл бұрын

    All the more reason to return to driving once he gets these running

  • @maxroetzer63
    @maxroetzer63 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the powered trailer: there is a German company called Trailer Dynamics that is building electric powered highway trailers. Might be interesting for you... But overall awesome truck concept, keep going guys!!!

  • @tdwebste
    @tdwebste Жыл бұрын

    Powered trailers, need to talk about universal quick attach tailer power units.

  • @kidskona3287
    @kidskona32877 ай бұрын

    That's what smart and successful entrepreneurs think and operate. If they think they have the monopoly, give them what they deserve and make them hit bankruptcy. One step ahead of your enemies, know their weaknesses and strengths. Way forward Champ. Keep up the good work. Cheers.

  • @robertchristie5015
    @robertchristie5015 Жыл бұрын

    Man, this hybrid design is great! You should be thinking of swapping into Ag as well. Great Job Edison motors!!!

  • @tsstn
    @tsstn Жыл бұрын

    You are a fuggin PIONEER man. You and everyone helping you along the way. What an amazing project. I've been watching you for many months now. I am thrilled with your whole attitude and drive. I love what you are doing. Stay outside the box for all your thinking time. It is working wonders.

  • @Liam40
    @Liam40 Жыл бұрын

    When you talk about having your trailer push, it reminds me of the slug-units we used at CN. It's heavy. It has brakes. You hook it up like any other locomotive with your MU Cable (27-Pin Jumper Cable.) and it pulls power from the main unit to drive its traction motors. Air controls were done from the MU Airlines, but any aux functions like dropping sand, headlights, all that jazz was jumpered in along with the 600 Volt power for the motors. When you look at how trains run these days outside the yard, the motors do almost all the work. Your acceleration and deceleration of 30,000 tons. Your stopping and going. Regenerative brakes are sweet to be sure, but the sheer amount of power of a dynamic brake. It's the jake brake of electrics. The dynamic grid gets cooking, and the fans spool up like a jet engine. So when I think of a trailer application on an electric truck, sure the idea of a pusher is cool and all, but being able to hook that up to a dynamic grid is cooler in my eyes. When we talk about a hill, are we more afraid we won't top it, or are we more afraid we won't stop it. Electric motor means no gear. Faster it spins more amps it can pump. You don't get that loss of effectiveness when you're starting to run, cause you don't have to match a gear ratio to your engine speed limit. Slap in a traction control so it doesn't skid out, and you could just have a "Jake" button, and a dynamic controller similar to what you see with a pickup truck brake controller. Could have a "light" and "heavy" application button if you wanted to get fancy with it, so you can choose whether to activate a light drag or a full stopping force. (Maybe a "Hold" function, where it works to hold your current speed, and a heavy function for decelerating) But wait, there's more. You have traction control on those brakes. When it's slippery or slimy, that trailer should be pulling itself straight and acting like an ABS, because it is. It can't lock the tires, slower they go less amps they make less resistance there is. You know how BC is, I know how BC is. You get grease year round. Sorry for the long ramble, but hey, the best ideas are born from bullshit. Just felt like saying what was on my mind when you mentioned trailers is all, haha. (Unrelated - If you were to look at a log trailer manufacturer local here in BC, check out Freflyt in Vanderhoof. They're good people based on my interactions with them, though I have no affiliation with them.) Have a good one, and thanks for reading.

  • @cinemabunny
    @cinemabunny Жыл бұрын

    I love that you went from shunned customer to competition and you support Right to Repair with available parts. If fleet operators knew that you were RTR vs planned obsolescence, they would switch to you instantly.

  • @nutsandbolts432
    @nutsandbolts432 Жыл бұрын

    Wheel speed may vary on tandem axles due to tire wear, tire pressure and turning radius. Yes, they need to be synced, but be sure there is some wiggle room in the tolerances. I don’t know the specs on the motors you got, but some Servo motors can match rpm’s exactly causing your axles to fight one another. I’m sure you have thought about this.

  • @seabulls69

    @seabulls69

    5 ай бұрын

    I just learned that Tesla's "semi" (not at all like Chase's "Topsy") only uses the second axle for starting out and hill climbing. Seems with the Edison setup that a simple programming tweak to reduce power to one of the axles might solve the slight variation in rotational difference issue. I am thoroughly impressed with the project. I've been saying for years that if someone came up with a hybrid with a smaller, more efficient power plant and a larger battery pack that I would buy it in a heartbeat. Looks like I'm not the only one. Kudos to Edison.

  • @jeffcourtney8101
    @jeffcourtney8101 Жыл бұрын

    You and your team and the suppliers etc. are what I think of as industrial revolutionists. Designing, developing and bringing to market a product with superior quality. Looking forward to seeing the 1st million mile Edison in the future.

  • @lexugax
    @lexugax7 ай бұрын

    I love what you guys are doing. I hope one day you decide to make a pickup truck like this.

  • @WorldRallyFamily

    @WorldRallyFamily

    6 ай бұрын

    Check their other videos, they are wanting to do that soon.

  • @benconverse6158
    @benconverse6158 Жыл бұрын

    Hell yea right to repair and bulletproof reliability. I wish more manufacturers would take a page from your book! Keep it up guys!

  • @ScottPlude
    @ScottPlude7 ай бұрын

    Your story reminds me of the Tucker Car scenario from (I think) the 40s. I am glad you were able to give the middle finger to the companies that wouldn't work with you. Your efforts make this world a better place and take away power and control from the mega companies. thanks!

  • @BNUTTALL1983
    @BNUTTALL19835 ай бұрын

    Love it. If the people/companies you approach don’t want to jump on board. F’em. Go around, over or through them. For too long large companies have become comfortable with controlling markets. Love it that you’re rattling cages. Hopefully you can eventually bring axle manufacturing into Canada.

  • @karlswanson95
    @karlswanson956 ай бұрын

    Love it. Have you looked into generating electricity with gas turbine generators? Wrightspeed was looking into this not sure what they are doing now. Maybe pneumatic motor generators etc.

  • @ponderosalogging2893
    @ponderosalogging2893 Жыл бұрын

    I am very interested in your trucks. But being speced mainly for off-road use is a own side for me. I gross 245k lbs and seeing a company make electric trucks for us heavy haul guys is awesome! I would love to see normal highway axles as a option.

  • @janjitzekrol2564
    @janjitzekrol25646 ай бұрын

    I love all of this, I love the system, I love the way you present it, I love the humor.. I saw another video in which you mentioned you were worried about public speaking. Please don't, just do this and you will grab the attention. Just like your designs, keep it simple, straight forward, no need to make things more complex. You are on the right track and you will go far.

  • @hondaman117
    @hondaman1177 ай бұрын

    Curious, are the power ratings discussed the peak or continuous ratings? And at what voltage ranges?

  • @exyor5916
    @exyor5916 Жыл бұрын

    I dont know who you are but the fight you put up to get it the way you wanted it just deserve a sub

  • @kennethbranson-dv6tq
    @kennethbranson-dv6tq Жыл бұрын

    I’m not a driver but I love what you guys are doing and I hope you guys keep doing great!

  • @davek6630
    @davek6630 Жыл бұрын

    It’s great to see the little guy go head with the large corporations! I love the simplicity of this truck design! I’m looking forward to seeing you guys succeed in this venture!

  • @danwerkman
    @danwerkman Жыл бұрын

    I really really love your spirit. Right to repair, no planned obsolescence... Keep charging...Makes me interested in equipment again.

  • @rangefreewords
    @rangefreewords Жыл бұрын

    Love the autonomous trailer idea. So many common lanes that you'd otherwise take in an industry that aren't on highway at all. It's the same as what I've seen for quarrys now.

  • @drewgoodman7932
    @drewgoodman79326 ай бұрын

    A power trailer paired with Topsy would be the holy grail. Do it.

  • @Otaku422
    @Otaku422 Жыл бұрын

    I would imagine Australian trucking would be interested in those powered trailers for their road trains as well.

  • @t-yoonit
    @t-yoonit Жыл бұрын

    I love this. The epitome of "fück you, I do what I want"

  • @robbbenedict
    @robbbenedict Жыл бұрын

    Canada should be able to manufacture virtually anything requiring raw materials. We have everything!

  • @philliplopez8745
    @philliplopez87457 ай бұрын

    We sold our manufacturing soul for Wal Mart prices . I am a repair man , I started out fixing " Mr Coffees" and vacuum cleaners . Can you imagine fixing a coffee maker today .

  • @justinriggs8485
    @justinriggs8485 Жыл бұрын

    Man I hear the the anger and the happiness in your voice at the same time. I really hope I get to drive a highway Edison Motors truck one day.

  • @badgermetal
    @badgermetal Жыл бұрын

    5:50 I think you meant to say that the planetary hubs increase the torque at the hub but decrease the speed.

  • @rockwolfdesigns6384
    @rockwolfdesigns638411 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah congratulations, thanks for promoting the right way to do business

  • @jpdenford1473
    @jpdenford1473 Жыл бұрын

    I have nothing to do with Trucking but your philosophy and execution are inspirational. Keep up the great work.

  • @jwpepper6718
    @jwpepper6718 Жыл бұрын

    Love what you all are doing!! Can't wait to see where this takes you once your past the trial and error stage as I see you crushing all competitors and creating a more reliable product than what is out there. Plus, the little man can work on it with your simplicity in mind.

  • @Youhaveaname
    @Youhaveaname Жыл бұрын

    This is some beautiful work you're doing, sir. I've got nothing to do with the logging or trucking industry. But I look forward to all your updates!

  • @mythslayer1579
    @mythslayer1579 Жыл бұрын

    Im so pumped to see everything you guys are working on.

  • @DollarKLX250
    @DollarKLX250 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!! Can’t wait to see how this truck performs in the real world!

  • @psychotikpaisano
    @psychotikpaisano Жыл бұрын

    The powered trailer idea is awesome

  • @MerpSquirrel
    @MerpSquirrel Жыл бұрын

    Wow this is a big deal. I think we need to really rethink our industry and look at sourcing locally like your team.

  • @mastr-sf1jv
    @mastr-sf1jv Жыл бұрын

    This is incredible, im so excited to share your story.

  • @sedrickwells8545
    @sedrickwells8545 Жыл бұрын

    Man I love what you guys doing here.

  • @ComputerGeek18
    @ComputerGeek18 Жыл бұрын

    “Instead of being a customer, we became competition." I love the way you said F**K you guys, take this, in the most professional, entrepreneur way possible! Keep it up! I can't wait to see what this truck will be capable of.

  • @Wesleycooks
    @Wesleycooks Жыл бұрын

    I really like the powered trailer idea. Keep up the good work

  • @Borkery
    @Borkery7 ай бұрын

    cant wait for the box truck version. would buy one in a heart beat if it can haul at least 10k pounds including trailer. Gotta replace my E-450 with something from your shop!

  • @TJWelsh
    @TJWelsh Жыл бұрын

    Nice heavy spec rears! I'm anxious to see the next phase.

  • @bigal878
    @bigal878 Жыл бұрын

    Great job. Subscribed and watching with interest from Australia 🇦🇺 👍

  • @fancentral4662
    @fancentral4662 Жыл бұрын

    Very happy to see this progress. Keep going.

  • @arcticfox5118
    @arcticfox5118 Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the conversion kit. One of those with an on road setup or even if limited to say 105/110 KPH would still be perfect for my use. granted id like to see 130kph but even the 105 or 110 would be fine. Im not a log truck myself but i do run in many of the same areas you guys do being an end dump and at simular weights plus the added abuse of the PTO. And my number one frustration is getting in and out of the often steep roads in and out of mines and quarrys and the toll it takes on my mileage. Hopefully when my rebuild is due again you will have the kit or a gen 2 onroad conversion ready and we can talk.

  • @IRDeezlSmoke
    @IRDeezlSmoke Жыл бұрын

    I experienced the very same issues with trying to source rubber tracks for the machine in my avitar. Even though I had the cash, and would pay up front, the manufacturers would just say yes, then when it came time to deliver, they would change their minds and say no. All in hopes to break my will and hope that I would give up. Eventually a south Korean manufacturer that understands the benefits supplying a new demand rather than destroy new demand in compliance with the wishes of their current customers to control a market, took a chance and sold me a set. That was over 20 years ago.

  • @WorldRallyFamily
    @WorldRallyFamily6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely awesome!

  • @tonylafon8716
    @tonylafon8716 Жыл бұрын

    I’m really excited to see the end product of this as well. Some really good points about the trailers having power. Maybe even mounting a six power unit on the trailer for a extra juice

  • @PWlangford1
    @PWlangford18 ай бұрын

    You will be a big company one day 🇨🇦

  • @NunyaBusIness-tl1ev
    @NunyaBusIness-tl1ev6 ай бұрын

    I have a Gasoline Powered Trailer on an EV (as a battery range extender) and I can say they are awesome. I LOVE your powered trailer idea, with the diesel generator! EDISON MOTORS KEEP IT UP!!!!! ❤ 🎉❤😊

  • @orbatos
    @orbatos8 ай бұрын

    Really looking forward to these, great work.

  • @bpturbo27
    @bpturbo27 Жыл бұрын

    Love the underdogs , always did.

  • @vincepaladino3
    @vincepaladino35 ай бұрын

    Keep the enthusiasm going!.!.!!!

  • @josefrobbins8781
    @josefrobbins8781 Жыл бұрын

    Great work Hoss.

  • @chrisquaglio5265
    @chrisquaglio5265 Жыл бұрын

    You guys are amazing, I’m from Europe so this isn’t a real useful thing for me you’re to far, but making a truck this cool with right to repair is wonderful project keep it up huge fan

  • @jonathanwoods1191
    @jonathanwoods1191 Жыл бұрын

    Keep it up buddy you doing well and your team specially your team there’s nothing more important than having a great team surround yourself with great people

  • @Elyon113
    @Elyon113 Жыл бұрын

    You guys are amazing ❤

  • @Jackknife-TV
    @Jackknife-TV Жыл бұрын

    Yep 👍 tried to do that with an APU setup that I was trying to build ...... Ran into the same problems

  • @gandalfnamirreh379
    @gandalfnamirreh379 Жыл бұрын

    Joe's working at it , semi - conductors are a go

  • @CGoody564
    @CGoody5644 ай бұрын

    This is great news. Edison is rollin' full steam ahead; better hope that Jake brake works 😅

  • @charleshulsey3103
    @charleshulsey3103 Жыл бұрын

    Conversion kits for hwy trucks would make a lot of sense.

  • @daverussell9627
    @daverussell9627 Жыл бұрын

    So excited for you folks!

  • @thaelian
    @thaelian Жыл бұрын

    Just so proud of your entire team for having the balls to compete and not only compete but you will kick butt. Dang... So proud to be Canadian where throughout history, we have proven that we always find a way. I can`t help but think about the Canadian-built Avro Arrow. We as Canadians, can do it and not only that, but we can do it better, the only difference is you will not be shut down by governmental and political pressure or outside interests. Up here in the Great White North we get it done, Eh!

  • @matthewgorman1088
    @matthewgorman1088 Жыл бұрын

    Super interesting, can’t wait to see it in action.

  • @darkonecoming
    @darkonecoming7 ай бұрын

    outstanding

  • @philliplopez8745
    @philliplopez8745 Жыл бұрын

    Constant peak torque. The magic of electricity!

  • @Bill-sp8kb

    @Bill-sp8kb

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! That's why AC traction, diesel - electric locomotives can pull so much tonnage. Constant high torque, applied smoothly to the rails.

  • @zgrb
    @zgrb10 ай бұрын

    The idea of regenerative braking with trailer axles on extended downhills is so genius, obviously not a replacement for high quality brakes but could make them a lot safer and increase range in mountains on highway trucks. Obviously you’d need a ton of cooling, but I imagine it’s a lot easier to get heat out of a system with circulating fluids and active cooling than plain ol brake rotors.

  • @siggyincr7447

    @siggyincr7447

    6 ай бұрын

    On extended downhills you would need to dump the current on some sort of huge resistive load as I don't think these trucks will be carrying tons of batteries to save that much power. At that point you might as well just use the normal brakes.

  • @zgrb

    @zgrb

    6 ай бұрын

    @@siggyincr7447 that’s true, but I think it would be much easier to cool a larger thermal mass with its own cooling system than conventional brakes. I’m not as familiar with the brakes on semi’s, but I have seen plenty overheat and catch fire, which I don’t think would be an issue with this system. Resistive loads are very efficient for heat transfer, and you’d still be able to take a lot of energy out of the system with a simple heat exchanger. Would be interesting to see it implemented.

  • @littleshopintheshed
    @littleshopintheshed Жыл бұрын

    Love what your doing!!

  • @seabulls69
    @seabulls695 ай бұрын

    First of all, congrats on seeing your idea through. I've seen a number of your videos as well as the Deboss video where you pulled the Sherman tank conversion. Bravo on your proof of concept. I love the idea of a smaller, lighter, more efficient ICE powerplant. I get the idea of regenerative braking too. My concern is, when you're coming down a very long grade fully loaded, it seems that you would generate more power than the batteries could ingest. Would they be able to absorb all of that energy? Or is there a provision to incorporate dynamic braking resistor grids like the diesel electric locomotives use on downgrades to bleed off excess energy?

  • @clydeschwartz
    @clydeschwartz Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @happygarage6310
    @happygarage6310 Жыл бұрын

    Adding to trailer axles, many current AWD hybrids only use the rear motor to assist launch or for additional regen. Most of the time, the rear motor coasts, meaning it's far less powerful, like 60HPish. The trailer axle could be only 100Kw and still give plenty of extra oomph.

  • @cannibalcarl8512
    @cannibalcarl85127 ай бұрын

    Nice Job

  • @AceofSEK
    @AceofSEK Жыл бұрын

    Hell yes! Keep up the great job

  • @1944chevytruck
    @1944chevytruck7 ай бұрын

    awesome!

  • @mikemcdonald2755
    @mikemcdonald27558 ай бұрын

    Planetaries are definitely the way to go!

  • @Daa253
    @Daa253 Жыл бұрын

    Y'all should partner up with Prusa Research to have 3D models for all kinds of small parts that can be replaced by 3D printing! For example like knobs and switches. Prusa Research is a 3D printer company, you both have a lot in common!

  • @dogefort8410

    @dogefort8410

    Жыл бұрын

    They're more into manufacturing than design, but good call on Prusa.

  • @bormanaj
    @bormanaj Жыл бұрын

    Excited for you guys! Maybe it’s just my experience, but as an on-road HD fleet mechanic, I (and my whole shop) prefer drum brakes. We’ve had more issues and expensive repairs from disc brakes than drums. (Callipers failing, mostly. But also the extra time and just more exhausting work disc brakes add to pulling a hub) just some input!

  • @idontwannamakethishandle

    @idontwannamakethishandle

    Жыл бұрын

    Regenerative braking might take a lot of stress off the brakes tho