dude.. I appreciate this vid

Great vid, many thanks Joe. Peter

@graybenchelec

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I just got an old Ceriatone Centura - from Malaysiaa - I live in Malaysia too, its great. I also got an old 1994 Mesa Boogie V Twin valve OD pedal - have you done a teardown of one of them? BTW Ceriatone is a Malay word for Happy/Joyful tone and is pronounced "Cherry-a-tone" 🙂- you probably know they make amazing affordable amp clones too of all the best amps all by hand in a small workshop

Great tear-down. I'd be curious to see a tear-down of the JRAD Archer/Ikon.

last I heard Ceriatone are north of 8000 Centuras sold. I got mine (as a kit) back in 2017, it is Serial # 317K. I really love the Klon for what it does!

Love my centura.

Amazing videos, you deserve thousands more subs. Can you get your hands on a Darkglass pedal in the future? I'm really interested what their drives are based on and what their secret sauce is for making the bass cut and saturate so nicely.

@graybenchelec

2 жыл бұрын

I'll put it on the list. You might also go look at discussions on the DIY forums (DIYSB, FSB) where you can look at schematics. I don't go too deep into circuit design for the teardowns. Thanks!

@ileutur6863

2 жыл бұрын

@@graybenchelec I have done some forum diving, but most of the discussion is usually around just cloning the designs or fixing common design flaws. From my limited knowledge all I see is that its some kind of CMOS clipping

698 - yes, learned that in the diode video! Cool! I think I'll include that in some when I build my clone - after all, it'll be based on that schematic.

I know it's just a Klon clone, but I'll be damned if they didn't go the extra mile with that enclosure! Wish they weren't so expensive though (the enclosures themselves that is, the complete pedals aren't really that pricey in the grand scheme of things but I'd love to get some Klon enclosures to build non-Klon things into if they weren't over $100 each)

you can push the insides out of the sockets too.. but I prefer doing 2x2... a little painters tape or blue tack holds the sockets still while you solder.. takes no time at all

You ROCK!! :-)

I replaced the original diodes inside the Centura with some black line diodes. Same style that is in my KTR. The gain is now practically identical to what is in my KTR! Much closer to the real Klon tone. One thing I’ve noticed however is that the KTR is a little more compressed and thicker in tone as opposed to the Centura? Just wondered, does the Centura obtain the same op amps as the KTR? Are there any resistor mods perhaps to thicken up the tone?

@pontiaclemansgt

Жыл бұрын

where did you source your diodes?

Really nice videos, i´ve been learning a couple things...maybe some fulltones?...i´ve got a couple and they are really well made...

@graybenchelec

Жыл бұрын

Noted! Thank you

Great video and mod ideas. How popular is this mod? FYI - I just purchased this pedal from you… so stoked!

@graybenchelec

2 жыл бұрын

Putting in sockets for fragile components is almost always a good idea. Thank you!

I’d really love to see some new classics. Fulltone OCD, Timmy, Nobels, Zvex Fuzz Factory.

@jamesincharlotte

2 жыл бұрын

I cut out the diode on my ocd V4 made its sound so much better !!

What are you using to keep comps in place while soldering? blue tack? rodico?

@graybenchelec

Жыл бұрын

yep poster tack!

@CannonPedalCo

4 ай бұрын

@@graybenchelecthis is genius

Hello! Great mod! Would you be willing to do this mod on my Centura? Wouldvlove to get it as close to a Klon as possible. Thoughts?

@graybenchelec

5 ай бұрын

Ah sorry, I'm not taking any outside work right now. I would reach out to a repairperson in your area, it's a relatively simple job. Good luck!

Hi! What are the nippers you used on socket pin removal?

@graybenchelec

2 жыл бұрын

They're generally referred to as "end cutters". These specifically are Xcelite 166SEB, they were my dad's from his days working for Lockeed Martin.

@Stu66orn

2 жыл бұрын

@@graybenchelec Could you please find something very similar in your online shop like amazon? With that name I don't find exatclt like theese that look like fret puller

@graybenchelec

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stu66orn I don't see anything either with a quick search. You can probably use regular nippers as long as the jaws are slim enough.

@Stu66orn

2 жыл бұрын

@@graybenchelec I found a name for this it's a transverse end cutter. Can be used as fret puller!😁

698 no clue, S698 (the 698th silver Klon) was the Chittum schematic Klon

@graybenchelec

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, haha what're the chances?

Can you do an episode on the new Death By Audio unit, Germanium Filter? I’d love to see what they’ve done with the Russian transistors to give it the DBA flavour

@graybenchelec

2 жыл бұрын

Stay tuned ;)

@jimismith6648

2 жыл бұрын

@@graybenchelec omg :D

Cool! .....I ΤΗΙΝΚ it would be interesting to tear down one of those cheap Chinese KLON clones.

As for the original diodes in the Centura, I’m assuming they have different forward voltage than say for example, the ITT diodes? This stuff is fascinating!

@graybenchelec

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and also a different Vf curve due to reverse leakage. Check out the google doc link on the curve tracing video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hnqfpdape9S9YJM.html&

@StompboxMods

Жыл бұрын

@@graybenchelec yes I watched that video earlier and I was surprised to see how close the ITT diodes are to the actual diodes in the “real” Klon you tested. Fraction of a fraction apart! Did you test the Ceriatone diodes in that VF curve test? I wasn’t sure if that brand was apart of the test? None the less, these videos have been so fun and valuable to learn from. This all started when my brother sent me a sound comparison video between a real Klon and a modified Ceriatone Klon clone with ITT diodes. After the guy added them into the Ceriatone- it was damn near identical to the real Klon in terms of gain and tone. Wild!

@graybenchelec

Жыл бұрын

​@@StompboxMods I didn't test the ceriatone diodes in the video, but I did test them afterward and added their data sets to the spreadsheet.

@StompboxMods

Жыл бұрын

@@graybenchelec where do I get the spreadsheet? Just out of curiosity.

@graybenchelec

Жыл бұрын

@@StompboxMods Here you go docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t3mn81IjbXSiTY3boMftn1eXdgcMHT4lpY00tbsXAaE/edit#gid=365975510

Buy a Maxon OD820, and you have a really good clone.

Awesome video! It'll be great if you could do the Cornerstone Gladio.

@bigstick5278

4 ай бұрын

Not much to do mods with as it 98% surface mounted components.

Klon 698 was the pedal traced and "kloned" by all the other pedal manufacturers including Ceriatone. So all klones are"voiced" as per the 698 and may not be true to all the other actual Klons.

@graybenchelec

Жыл бұрын

True! although S698 was verified against KTRs, so anything based off Martin's schematic is also indirectly based on KTRs, at least up until recently.

@markblance9639

Жыл бұрын

@@graybenchelec Cool, that I wasnt aware of. Thank you. 👍

Did I see right ? No rubber feet for a sure stand ? And a 1/8" connector for voltage supply ? Bad, bad, bad, I would say.

@GriffinJenningsMusic

Жыл бұрын

the original klon had an 8th inch jack

Nik shoulda gooped it that woulda been hysterical

I bet that enclosure is milled!

I think it would be funny if the Centura had all that black goo in it.

Klon Klowns like to pretend that Klones aren’t real Klons. ;) PSA: Joe didn’t install the Russian diodes backwards, the Russians mark them backwards compared to the US.

@ToneCraftFX

2 жыл бұрын

I believe as long as one diode is in one direction and the other the opposite direction, it should t matter.

@Wolf_K

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToneCraftFX With a pair, you would be correct.

Can you please share the calculation to show your time is more precious than the part you were talking about? It's not too much hassle to solder on just one of those so I think that just sounds arrogant.