Politicians couldn't give a bark

@donnale3881

21 күн бұрын

CDC aren’t “politicians”, they are scientists and medical professionals that think they are protecting our furry family members. A lot of dogs have died from that mysterious illness, I believe they understand it now. Contact the administration, your senators and house representatives, help them to understand what the CDC don’t know, missed and/or misunderstood. President Biden loves dogs, he’s always had dogs, and even adopted a rescue dog. This would matter to him!

Thank you for letting us know Robert! This is unreal. We've got people starving, homeless on the streets and the lawmakers are deciding crap like this instead of doing something that will help what's really important. This is just plain tyranny and idiocity! This law should specify 'dogs from countries that have rabies issues' only. Just total BS.

@mell.7817

24 күн бұрын

As much as we adore Robert, it only applies to 113 countries and is an extension of what was already in place from Covid. This was not started by the current administration. Germany and Belgium are not part of the 113.

@PetPrepRadioShow

24 күн бұрын

Really doesn't matter what administration. It's the CDC that's the problem. There is no trust any longer in any government agency. We have no say over how our tax dollars are being spent.

@donnale3881

21 күн бұрын

This isn’t about voting, CDC aren’t “politicians”, they are scientists and medical professionals that think they are protecting our furry family members. A lot of dogs have died from that mysterious illness, I believe they understand it now. Contact the administration, your senators and house representatives, help them to understand what they don’t know, missed and/or misunderstood. President Biden loves dogs, he’s always had dogs, and even adopted a rescue dog. This would matter to him!

@Rina-sv5ui

19 күн бұрын

Killing hundreds of thousands of dogs killed every yr. In the US should tell you we have too many unwanted dogs. The price of imports has gotten out of control. Seems to me we have imported for long enough that US breeders have been able to establish the lines here.

@PetPrepRadioShow

19 күн бұрын

@@Rina-sv5ui that's not the point. Education is really the key to people learning that just because two dogs can breed doesn't mean that they should. This is why people need sound dogs for dog sports, work and other necessities, good bloodlines with solid nerves and genetics. The gene pool for good dogs is small in the U S. Europe just happens to have a much better system only breeding dogs that have been health tested, temperament tested, conformation tested and worked. This has not been happening in the United States with the exception of responsible breeders who are not in it for just how much money they can get but for the foundation and the future of the breeds.

It’s time to unite and take our world back

@jennabennett4236

25 күн бұрын

Damn straight!! I'm with you!!

@watchmoivies123

25 күн бұрын

I think we could all say i There’s nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. Have a good weekend everyone

@donnale3881

21 күн бұрын

This isn’t about voting, CDC aren’t “politicians”, they are scientists and medical professionals that think they are protecting our furry family members. A lot of dogs have died from that mysterious illness, I believe they understand it now. Contact the administration, your senators and house representatives, help them to understand what they don’t know, missed and/or misunderstood. President Biden loves dogs, he’s always had dogs, and even adopted a rescue dog. This would matter to him!

@loyal_dogs

16 күн бұрын

I'm with you! We need to bring back normal all over the world that those lefties are destroying. Support from Germany ❤

And yet... how do we stop the cdc??? They are making choices that do not effect them.

@Drumbo1959

23 күн бұрын

Universal non-compliance Just like we should have during covid.

We need to end all these non elected offices from being able to make "rules" that have the power of law. Congress should have to vote for every rule these agencies want. If they can't get it to pass they don't get it.

Wow you nailed this 100% Robert! Who will benefit from this? The puppy mills We have the same issue here in Canada. We have been working hard to get the illegal puppy mills shut down while our government spews out laws that have zero common sense and caters to the people who are already illegally cheating the dog system. It’s more than frustrating, sad and it definitely sets up many more dogs for failure.

@grt49er

24 күн бұрын

Puppy mills exist in every country as do prisons. Afghanistan prison verses US prison. The CDC is having to do this because the US citizens are importing fraudulent dogs from countries with high Rabies populations.

The amount of stress changes when they’re that old as well. A young puppy will sleep most of the trip. A 6 month old it can detrimentally change their outlook

Holy cow there are tons of problems other than dogs that need to be addressed here. And THIS is what they're spending their time on?? Go after the damn puppy mills!

@grt49er

24 күн бұрын

This is trying to get rid of some very specific puppy mills.

@PattisArtInnaVan

24 күн бұрын

@@grt49er yes, this wasn’t directed at Robert I’m just expressing my frustration with those disgusting puppy mills

@Stu_Pedazzo

22 күн бұрын

You don't think they're working on a variety of things at once? It IS possible, you know.

In the UK, there is a temporary ban on rescue/street dogs from Eastern Europe due to the amount of sick dogs that were arriving, it also impacts upon the environment, because they brought in diseases that we didn't have before they were imported. It doesn't only impact upon other dogs, and pets, it can also have a dreadful impact upon farming animals too.

@Gravityembracegary

25 күн бұрын

All of the above information is false. All of it. Every bit. That is all

@eliakimjosephsophia4542

25 күн бұрын

@@Gravityembracegary Look at the British government website and you will see the temporary DEFRA ban.. On the diseases they brought in you can also view British Veterinary's surgeons websites. Our vets wrote an article on it.

@grt49er

24 күн бұрын

@@Gravityembracegary The UK is about to limit them and they may have already started. UK ranchers are getting crushed by Bovine TB. They have been culling badgers for few years now and it isn’t working. Dogs are a carrier.

@Gravityembracegary

24 күн бұрын

@grt49er absolutely incorrect.. the badger cull was stopped after a year or two.. the rules for foreign, live animal import are stricter.. we don't have ranchers but our farmers are fine thanks.. bovine tb by the way has NOTHING to do with the import of dogs. Nothing. Dogs absolutely do not carry bovine tb. Please stop spreading falsehood, you're making yourself sound very stupid.

Robert I imported a Boerboel from Portugal to the UK. He could only get in to the UK at 16 weeks once his rabies shot's had been completed. He received some basic training at the breeder's kennel in the 4 week's before he arrived. I imported from the breeder because he does have to work on the farm and I need a dog that is bred to the original breed standard which means he is lean, muscular, agile and has stamina. The show boerboels you see today would not survive on a farm in South Africa and would not survive long enough to procreate. At 16 week's it was a blessing to have a puppy that understood basic commands and was toilet trained. The big downside was the bonding took much longer which slowed down further training, it took me six months to gain his trust. The boerboel is very intense dog and a bond between owner and dog is essential. The 6 month rule will be hugely problematic for dog's like boerboels and malinois and pointless since the pup can be fully inoculated for rabies and ready to travel at sixteen week's. As for importing stray's from overseas I'am sure the UK and US should be focusing on rehoming the many homeless dog's we have in our own countries.

Sadly it's not even a law, it's a "rule". This is why the SCOTUS needs to address the "chevron" rule - the government is ruling by rule and not written law.

They ruined what i been working hard for, I finally got 10 acres of land for the dog i want. so was waiting for next litter of a breeder i been watching for years... now my dreams are crushed over Bullshit.

@mell.7817

25 күн бұрын

It is 113 countries and the announcement is that it will be extended which it was suppose to end July31. These countries and political units are considered high risk for importing dog rabies into the United States. Afghanistan Algeria Angola Armenia Azerbaijan Bangladesh Belarus Belize Benin Bolivia Botswana Brazil Burkina Faso Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Central African Republic Ceuta Chad China (excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan) Colombia Comoros Côte d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast) Cuba Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ecuador Egypt El Salvador Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Eswatini (Swaziland) Ethiopia Gabon Gambia Georgia Ghana Guatemala Guinea Guinea-Bissau Guyana Haiti Honduras India Indonesia Iran Iraq Jordan Kazakhstan Kenya Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Laos Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Libya Madagascar Malawi Malaysia Mali Mauritania Melilla Moldova Mongolia Morocco (including Western Sahara) Mozambique Myanmar (Burma) Namibia

@skijorT

23 күн бұрын

Where did you get this information? Is it on the CDC website?

It’s always irked me to see rescues importing dogs while there is already a surplus of homeless dogs in this country. What irks me even more is when they intentionally choose to rescue a catastrophically ill or injured dog for advertising and fund raising purposes. Of course they never come out and say that but it’s EXACTLY what’s going on. Exploitive and inhumane in my opinion and a waste of resources. Not all, but many rescues engage in shady practices. Such a shame for the dogs. It’s unfortunate to see the working and dog sports worlds may be impacted by their behavior. *edit- I’m not referring to treatable illnesses with a reasonable expectation of a positive outcome like a lot of Parvo. I’m referring to dogs with catastrophic injury, distemper cases with severe neurological signs present, or the 14 year old dogs with severe dental disease and signs of organ failure.

@PetPrepRadioShow

25 күн бұрын

ditto

@kerrywills8715

24 күн бұрын

I kind of agree but I maybe unusual but I rescued 3 rspca dogs in uk where I live then 5 more Eastern European rescues as rescuing in uk is complicated. I am probably exceptional. I have 9 dogs.

@gerdberg4188

24 күн бұрын

He is not talking rescues he is talking about working line dogs

@kerrywills8715

23 күн бұрын

@@gerdberg4188 I hear you thank you

@kerrywills8715

23 күн бұрын

@@gerdberg4188 just to add I’ve moved to north of England and a guy some streets away has been importing illegal dogs. Big ones and no idea where they are going. I go out with trepidation as odd ones occasionally escape. I have four bull terriers and five mongrels I don’t now let my dogs off leads we go out in twos. So I suspect my view tainted. I adore all dogs but feel their can be dangerous if idiots have them x

Why be concerned about dog diseases crossing the border? They certainly don't worry about human diseases coming across. Drug resistant TB, measles, etc. If you listen to ER doctors there starting to see a lot of diseases that were mostly eradicated in the US. The fun part is there's an overlap with americans becoming anti-vaccination. If we can handle these diseases we can handle diseases that affect dogs.

@mimi7914

23 күн бұрын

EXACTLY!!! Case in point that they DON"T really care. Quite obvious when they just let people pour over our border after covid. All of a sudden it is okay to just let an invasion happen, who knows what diseases are coming thru? NOTHING MAKES SENSE>people need to wake up

Rabies in dogs does happen in the southwest. Texas has several cases a year in dogs and cats. My state New Mexico had a rabid puppy last year or the year before. Not that it justifies the new law since unvaccinated dogs come in over the border with their owners.

@pennypiper5857

25 күн бұрын

I live in Oregon and heard at least one case every year here.

This sucks. I was planning on getting a Swedish Vallhund from Sweden in a couple of years, and this will make that way more difficult. Thankfully I have friends who live in Sweden, so they can likely help by "fostering" my puppy until its old enough to come here, but that's a hassle for both them and me. Those are prime training and bonding months. And I say that having gotten my Mal X puppy when she was already almost four months old. She's just hit six months this week. There are only two things you can trust the modern US government to do: make your life more complicated and steal your money.

@BigBADSTUFF69

25 күн бұрын

the old rules were at least 12 weeks so 16 isnt' that much longer honestly.

politicians that give you rights... going forward i dont think that's the play book they're reading from.

Robert the way you could be truly helpful is to have done the research on who sponsored the legislation and tell us who to go after. Our lawmakers are in the pockets of lobbyists and their $, and neither party is immune. If you just say, open-ended, find out who is taking your rights away and vote against them, people will just assume it's the "other party" and they won't look beyond that. They will just use it to reinforce their assumptions. You have a powerful platform. If you use it to get political and don't get specific about who is supporting legislation, you have wasted your power.

@brendad7559

24 күн бұрын

Well said!!!🎉❤

@dragoonunlimited5819

16 күн бұрын

It’s not legislation, this was an edict dictated by unelected, un accountable bureaucrats with non congressional approval or oversight.

Sadly the dog that started this policy was a rescue that came in under falsified paperwork with a made up age and had rabies. I am sad. I have a friend who breeds in France. It’s her last breeding before she retires and I was supposed to get a dog and now this rule. I cannot ask them to raise the dog for me too! 😢. I could always get a dog in the US but her bloodlines have improved my dogs so much.

@1packatak

25 күн бұрын

That’s so sad.

@robinrutherfordcost4748

25 күн бұрын

Is France on the list of countries that have been banned?

@sodaandlemons8071

24 күн бұрын

Sadly it was an unethical rescue and unethical vet or vets that falsified the papers for this dog to make it to the US, and not the dog. Any rescue organization along with any vets who have signed falsified papers should be hit with HUGE fines and possible jail time time and any vet who falsifies papers should lose their license immediately along with huge fines and possible jail time as well. The CDC need to punish the people who falsify, play the system under the radar knowing the CDC is not too bright. These same people will continue to do what they have been doing, as this rule only punishes the responsible law abiding dog owner. The CDC has absolutely no clue that this rule WILL NOT solve their problem. Common sense and CDC should never be in the same sentence!

@katechampney756

22 күн бұрын

@@robinrutherfordcost4748 after August 1 it won’t matter if the country is considered rabies free, it will still be a 6 month wait. France has and will continue to be one of the rabies free states I imagine due to their policy to control it.

@dragoonunlimited5819

16 күн бұрын

You’ll have to prove that as the CDCs own data dates there has not been a case of canine rabies since 2008.

Ban the cdc

@agabrielhegartygaby9203

23 күн бұрын

Mostly does more good than harm the CDC - actually its the laws that make huge corporations in the pharmaceutical and medical device industries more powerful and CDC weaker that leads to catastrophic places from time to time,,,, that said I have no clue why they would even care about individual breeders bringing in puppies. The CDC looks at how drugs etc are developed - have more to do as far as I know with the pharmaceutical industry. I know they use a lot of dogs for research. I do not know whether they import puppies. I still do not understand the reason at this time for this change. I don't want to speculate further. But I don't know why the CDC would have jurisdiction over an individual dog owner purchaser in the first place. It goes against everything I understand about how medicine is run in this country.

Six months old is ridiculous. I’ve imported 2 8-week old puppies to the USA from Germany and this new rule is BS. Many breeders just breed better in some European countries, because of better and tighter fci breed club rules. They can’t just throw 2 dogs together like in the states. Breeders won’t keep dogs for 6 months without steep additional cost. Yes, puppy mills will flourish. This could be handled so much differently if it’s actually really about rabies.

@grt49er

24 күн бұрын

It is the same in every country. All countries are going to have a percentage of fraudulent breeders. It’s a human nature thing not a nationality issue.

@CCOREY5

24 күн бұрын

@@grt49er of course every country has bad breeders. That’s not what my point was. My point is that, for example, Germany has stricter breeding guidelines and regulations if the breeder is part of an fci breed club. They have regional breed specific overseers that visit the breeders, make breeding recommendations according to the health of dam and sire, and make sure breeders follow all guidelines of raising litters. They also do in home and kennel visits. It is very organized. There is nothing like it in the USA.

@grt49er

24 күн бұрын

@@CCOREY5 All those guidelines in place and yet the breeder allowed you to take 8 week old puppies onto an international flight. Sounds like a puppy mill to me. More concerned with selling puppies than the puppies well being.

@CCOREY5

24 күн бұрын

@@grt49er nothing wrong with flying with a puppy if you follow certain guidelines. I always knew the breeder. I always went to Germany to get the puppy. I only use direct non-stop flights. Never any in-between stops or plane changes. And I only use the German airline Lufthansa. Lufthansa has professional guidelines for the transfer of pets. This is not uncommon for the German shepherd world of breeders. These are definitely not puppy mills.

@grt49er

24 күн бұрын

@@CCOREY5 In that scenario those guys are getting screwed by the limitations.

I concur. I've seen dogs brought into the US for "humane rescue" (which I get) but the dogs aren't properly vetted in the home country. As often is the case, unscrupulous people are at fault.

Everything you said is soooo right! CDC is killing our abiliy to import nice puppies for ourselves snd for potential future breeding dogs. Its heartbreaking.

It does not stop them bringing 1000,s of rescues from all 3rd world countries

@BelindaTN

25 күн бұрын

True. And that may be what has got the CDC's attention on this. So now they want to punish everyone importing dogs here. No wonder we have so many homeless dogs.

@1packatak

25 күн бұрын

Which is why this is a potential issue in the first place. Insanity.

That is ridiculous….. can you file an appeal or something? Some sort of petition?

Once again...the government saving us from ourselves... Thank you for informing us, I will definitely spread this along!

@RobertCabralDogs

21 күн бұрын

Excellent!

Oh, hell. This is ridiculous. F*ck this.

So sad that it's always the honest, ethical people that get the bad end of the stick.

Drain the Swamp.

I'm starting to wonder what the point is of living in the United States.

@Drumbo1959

18 күн бұрын

You get a front row seat.

I'm furious. This is BS. It punishes the responsible people. Hopefully we can change this.

CONGRESS!!!! VOTE THEM OUT !!!!!! KNOW YOUR INFORMATION... WE NEED TO FIGHT THIS DONT GIVE UP OUR RIGHTS FIGHT PEOPLE FIGHT NO MORE US VS US ITS WE THE PEOPLE ALL OF US NEED TO STAND AGAINST OUR GOVERNMENT TOGETHER AS ONE WERE STRONGER STOP LETTING THEM SEPARATE US BLACKS WHITES Donkey elephant Languages Region. Come together as one and we can all win our freedom to be free

THE CDC WAS THE ONE THAT SAID THE SHOT WAS SAFE TRUST THEM THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT

@BigBADSTUFF69

25 күн бұрын

Vaccines work though don't be a moron

What a shame!!

Heck yeah, six months is too old. Way too much lost training time.

Ok, I’m probably missing a link but why did they change it?

It goes beyond citizens wanting an FCI line puppy...Police departments and handlers will suffer as will MWD handlers. They will have to work harder with training, and that will cost taxpayers money. Don't get me wrong, I am not discrediting American bred working lines, but overall, FCI lines are superior .

Maybe the best way around it is for American breeders to import sperm from Europe to use in their breeding dogs. My mom’s former work colleague here (Canada) used to breed standard poodles and she imported all her sperm and did it all artificially .

So didn't you guys try to protest this law when it was still a bill so that congress got the info given in this video?

Just another law to spiral me into pure madness…ENOUGH!!!🤬

Will this law apply to military and law enforcement.?

@dug757

25 күн бұрын

Probably not, but I believe they import older dogs

@lukeryuzaki2328

25 күн бұрын

No. They bought green dogs (6month old up to under 2 years old), not puppies. The vendors to sell these green dogs would have puppy raising, and foundation training program. So they don't exactly care.

Crazy

The CDC is at it again😡

Just learned today how much more difficult it will be to visit US with a dog from Canada.

In the Netherlands it’s 15 weeks because of the rabies vaccination in order to import a pup. My chow was 16 weeks and that was fine. Yes, you have to trust your breeder to take care of socialisation. If you want to it can be done, but it takes more effort and proper research of finding a good breeder.

@lukeryuzaki2328

25 күн бұрын

Unless the breeder run a huge kennel with network of puppy raisers, that he/she can live off by breeding dogs almost full time; even with the meant well breeder up until now can't carter to the US market this way when they can sell puppies to other market. Also breeders would pass the cost to buyers, and there are things they can't carter to buyers without the buyer to pay significantly more than if the buyer raise the puppy themselves. Let's say an American future dog owner live on a farm. He has a stable supply of meat, bone, organ scrap to supplement the main mill. It would cut the feeding cost greatly., especially for raw feeding diet. Good luck keeping the cost down asking breeders to raw feed your choice of puppy. Remember the point Mr Cabral raised in the video: It's not like breeders don't have other inquiries from different market. People from Asia, Africa, Oceania and other European countries... would still be happy to buy young puppies. Breeders (mostly small scale) would prefer to sell than taking risk holding onto a puppies until 6 month old. Accidents can happen to the puppies and the future owners, that can change the plan. Buyer can fall ill suddenly, and no longer want the dog. Or the puppy get into some sort of life changing incident. You can't force said buyer to just take this puppy then, nor you just take the deposit. Noone wants to take this risk, when there is a clear more convenient alternative (selling other market). Not many kennels are on big enough scale to carter to this new law. Most if not all of them that run on big scale meant to carter to the law enforcement, working, sport market, which meant more of kennel dogs settings. It allows them to lower their cost, yet the price for puppies, and green dogs alone are ever increasing. A puppy raising system for pet dogs to live with the family, likely cost more to implement.

Re rescue dogs from Eastern Europe and Asia. It is the same here in the U.K., “rescue” dogs with horrendous psychological and physical health issues including reintroducing dog diseases that were virtually eradicated here whilst simultaneously condemning abandoned U.K. dogs to death. It makes no sense except for inflating the rescuers virtuous ego. In my nearest village there are a number of these rescue dogs, they are walking liabilities, very aggressive and uncontrolled. The only positive is that the new owners are not stupid enough to let them off leash.

Well said!!

Not to mention some of us live in border towns and cross frequently with our dogs or have lives on either sides. That means I won’t be able to get a new puppy due to this new regulation because there’s no way I’ll be leaving my young pup behind.

You make a very valid point.

CdC sucks

@gccmbr1661

25 күн бұрын

but they did such a great job with COVID lockdowns and mask mandates. oh wait, masks never worked against COVID.

wow! now this is just a shocker im soo sad to find out about this

When the shelters are empty here maybe consider importing rescues.

Welcome to our world in Australia. By the time a dog jumps through all of the hoops required to come here, an imported dog is at least 9 months. It costs approx $15,000 USD MIN and if after the 6mths pre entry period, if the dog doesn't pass the final blood tests, you are down the drain possibly half that with no refund!

If this case is presented in front of the CDC I don't see how there is any argument against it. There isn't even a real reason to do this.

Spot on

Robert, thanks for the heads up. To whom does the CDC answer?

@huskernation2851

25 күн бұрын

Pfizer and Moderna would be my guess.

@mell.7817

24 күн бұрын

This was actually started when Covid started and it only applies to high risk countries. Most European countries are not on the CDC list. It is only being extended to the same countries.

Im Canadian we imported our female Malinios from the Republic of Kosovo. It was literally hell on wheels! We ended up waiting until she was 8 months old. Because we're honest, we declared that we wanted her for competition (IGP) ANY competition/breeding pup entering Canada MUST have a quarantine location that is inspected by the C.C vets, and they want it basically government style quarantine. They can basically throw your dog into quarantine for whatever and however long they see fit. Or return them to their country of origin. Wherever you purchase from has to be a current vet (3 month) checked breeder & have a pet passort (which is reasonable) OR Bring them in at 8 months. No quarantine location needed. Pet passport. Yes. OR If you bring them in as a "pet" basically you can bring them in at 8 weeks of age with a pet transporter. A pet transporter is mandatory to bring in ALL puppies/dogs to Canada. You also have to watch which countries that your dog is going to be flying over. The U.K didn't want us switching planes/flying over their country. Kosovo is a rabies free country according to U.S & Canada. Not thre U.K. though, even though there hasnt been a case of rabies in 40 some years. Needless to say, after a roller-coaster ride, not being able to get her/able to bring her, a shit ton of money. We got her here. We picked her at 2 weeks old, pick of the litter female. ❤🎉🫶 BUT Be aware of the issues that you will have with a pup of that age, that has basically no training and has ran with a pack of other dogs. Malinios are smart, so she is overcoming those obstacles, but it takes WORK and lots of it.

How can the CDC get away with this? The CDC doesn't make law. Do we have a bill number on this? Maybe it's time to contact our elected representatives and voice our opposition.

What is the likely hood of a 10 week old puppy having rabies? And we do not start vaccinating (for rabies) puppies until they are 6 months old anyway. The buyer of the puppy could be required to keep the puppy under quarantine at their kennel for the few weeks it takes to see if the pup shows symptoms of rabies. It does not take 6 months to know that. That is what is done if a dog is bitten or possible bitten by a rabid animal. The cdc sure hasn't been worried about importing people with communicable diseases.

@BigBADSTUFF69

25 күн бұрын

you kinda answered your own question, the reason it's 6 months is that that's when we vaccinate.

@1packatak

25 күн бұрын

It gets immunity from it’s Mom. I don’t know if it would work, but you can titer a dog for a rabies level. I have done it with my senior dogs as I don’t do rabies after 10 yo. I wonder if the titer would show the Mother transferred immunity.

@BelindaTN

25 күн бұрын

@@1packatak I would think so. Humans can get titers done for immunities to diseases too. My daughter had a titer done to see if she was still immune to chicken pox. She did this in her early 30s to keep from having to get the vaccine.(That was required for her new job and carreer) She had chicken pox when she 3 years old, but there was no medical record proving that. So when she was required to show proof that she had chicken pox, she went and had a titer done. She still showed immunity 3o years later. This should always be done and quit vaccinating when it is not needed. Too much vaccinating goes on these days. And I believe causing a LOT of health issues. In humans and animals. There is truth to 'too much of a good thing is too much'.

@brendad7559

24 күн бұрын

Canada starts rabies vaccines at 16 weeks

@grt49er

24 күн бұрын

Most states require a rabies vaccination for imported dogs from other states. Which means 6 month olds.

My GSD breeder would bring in 1yo breeders.

Don't know but used to be you couldn't take a dog too Hawaii or out of Hawaii with out a 6 month quarenteene .

I was going to bring a puppy malinois from Europe in a year:( these all stupid regulations!

At least allow some good breeders from Eastern Europe having proper paperwork for the parents etc… Why not have a control over risks rather putting bans on things like incompetent governments of third world nations….

@mell.7817

24 күн бұрын

They do. The CDC has a list of 113 countries that this is extended to. It was a ban put on during Covid. For the 113 they are extending it further. European countries such as Germany and Belgium are not part of the ban. Unfortunately, Robert did not do his complete research on this issue before making his feelings known.

@Armorakc

24 күн бұрын

@@mell.7817 Thank you for the clarification. Then it’s not that bad :)

The reason for this is because several rescue groups brought in dogs that were rabies positive and exposed several people to rabies in the last 5 years. The DOG form of rabies has been eradicated from the United States, but the other forms of rabies are here. It's not a "rights" issue when the major disease (rabies) is 100% fatal. It also takes time for the rabies vaccine to build protective antibodies. I don't like the law either, but I wouldn't want to risk bringing rabies in. I don't care how good a kennel looks on paper. They can lie about that. It's also very easy to tell the difference in a 3 month old dog vs a 6 month old dog - just look at the teeth.

I’m really good with this. Folks need to adopt from shelters. Breeding needs to be paused until we get ahold of the shelter problem

@thechappedhide7423

17 күн бұрын

The ignorance of this is stunning. It's not breeders filling shelters. Go after retail-rescue and puppy mills. THAT is where your shelter dogs are coming from. You don't get to dictate for others what dogs they can choose from or where they can get them just as nobody gets to dictate that to you. Wow.

i was just thinking last night that they'll be coming after pets next.

I got a notification from KZread that invited me to Telegram to talk with you Robert...is this from you or is it a spam thing? Just wanted to check with you here before embarking on that quest! Thank you! Sheri The Organic Pet Lady

Have that law in sweden for years 👍👍👍

The Government would probably allow dogs to come in at 10 weeks if the dogs came in from Israel or Ukraine. 🧐

Ship to Canada and drive it in to the US?

@RickSanchezC1980

25 күн бұрын

Good idea but then you create a middle man which means higher prices for a puppy.

@Hogdawg1911

25 күн бұрын

People gonna have to research breeders in the USA the dogs are there the breeds and bloodlined are there, just take good breeding and the understanding of the breeding process

They don't want people to have protection dogs...or any pets for that matter.... Or food or money or gardens or chickens or trees or water or any privacy or even kinship and unity.

It’s just gonna cost us more money as usual

❤

But who needs breeders when there’s thousands of great dogs in shelters getting put down? The hell with pure bred dogs.

They're making it onerous to travel by car from Canada to the U.S. with your dog, so people will just not do it. Too bad, we enjoy dropping down into the states for a day trip (or longer) with our dog, have lunch somewhere, do some casual tourism... spend money. Now we'll do it less, if at all. Before we used to consider where we'd take that 3-7 day road trip.. maybe Vancouver Island or the Okanogan or down to the Oregon coast, something like that, but the thing is, we have options. If you put hurdles in front of us we'll obviously take the path of least resistance and spend our money there.

@mariannepreston9903

10 күн бұрын

We're in the same boat. We live close to the US border and our veterinarian will often refer dogs to the specialty clinics in Spokane, WA or to the vet school in Pullman, WA. She won't be able to do this anymore if it's an emergency because of all the time-consuming paperwork involved to "import" a Canadian dog into the US. We also like to occasionally vacation south of the border and we'll have to think long and hard if we want to jump through all of the paperwork hoops the CDC has put in place for those of us in Canada and other rabies-free countries.

Another little piece of your freedom taken away. When will enough be enough,

:-( On the whole this could mean that eg the Malinois (my favorite breed, I'm from Malines, Belgium) could start to divert from the European bc of separation from the original breed.

@mell.7817

24 күн бұрын

Robert was misinformed. This is an extension from Covid of 113 high risk countries. Belgium is not on the list.

@WoodsmokeK9

7 күн бұрын

You are misinformed - per the CDC, it is ALL countries now, not just extending the current ban on high risk countries. This includes Germany, Belgium, and *Canada* ​@@mell.7817

The Humane Society has a form to write to the CDC to oppose (on grounds that really do not address these issues) - not much but something (search "Oppose the CDC dog import rule!". I am also going to write to my legislators and ask them how the CDC can do an end run around them by setting a rule like this without oversight to ensure it actually is based on real risk when curtailing our freedoms.

@ShelliG

24 күн бұрын

Just found an article from 2022: "CDC Documents Reveal Dog Import Ban Isn’t Due to Rabies Increase" - The CDC ... “identified a significant increase compared with the previous two years in the number of imported dogs that were denied entry into the United States from high-risk countries.” In 2020, 458 out of the approximately one million dogs entering the United States were denied entry due to invalid, incomplete, or falsified paperwork. In 2019, 298 dogs were denied entry for the same reasons. This makes the increase from 2019 to 2020 a mere 160 additional dogs.

@erwinh.8821

23 күн бұрын

The Humane Society of the US was the one who was originally campaigning for this rule! Now they’re ‘disappointed’ in the final outcome. Another example of why they don’t get any donations from me.

All the good dogs will be gone ???? I like this law to be honest we have enough dogs in the United States to deal with and work with. We need to work with our own animals from the United States and if you want one from another country, then wait till they’re a year old or whatever the time is that you can import it and here’s the other question why do people think there’s so much better from another country I believe all the dogs are all equal just like people will have to work with what we have

@lukeryuzaki2328

25 күн бұрын

All dogs are equal is simply educatedly wrong. Also the saying that people are equal meant to be said about basic right. Not on talent level, such as not everyone should have access to specialist education talent because they want without prove their talent. Why would someone who have no talent in music getting to study program funded by art tax just because they want? Back to dogs. A breed have been heavily selective bred, and developed to be how they are. They're already very different. Even for just beauty contest, non protection dogs, there are categories such as herding breed, spitz, hunting, retrieving... More advance, you have to prove that Border Collie can work as police dog as good as Malinois, German Shepherd and their mix, to at least be considered worthy of debate. Yes Malinois and German Shepherd came from herding ancestors, but certain individuals that meet requirement and pass breed test were selected out and bred to improve to become what they are. The herding ancestors of these two breed in this example are landrace dogs (look it up if you don't understand what landrace dogs are). There were huge naturally selected genes to develop from. Whereas the only landrace dog in the US is Carolina dog, and they're not well suited for any work, all US geographical climate and living situation alone. There is little to build them up before develop some distinctive breed with beneficial working trait out of them. The genetic diversity within breeds for purebred dogs in the US alone are not strong enough for American people to maintain a healthy, strong enough lines to stay well of import. And some breeds have different bonding, socialization requirement for different growth stage. Some take longer to bond if not start the bonding process before the fear periods. Money is also a thing. A trainer owner can train their puppies and save that expense. Why would that person have to pay for training expense for the same dog because of a silly law? You can't expect a breeder to spend all their time training each puppy individually and not asking you to pay the expense, ain't you? Are you aware that even an untrained green dog (with working potential) are getting into $10k plus region and less well funded police department still bite their lips to get them. The well trained, tested working dog would cost a small fortune. Law enforcement are the type that usually get dog finish teething phase. The same dog when acquired as puppy would be significantly less expensive. Police dog can be a mix which means not good breeding prospect with attached expense for breeding right. Imagine how much stellar papered 6 month dog with all the extra quality required care and training coming from great pedigree. In short, each breeds have their own demands. How is that equality in any shape or form? Can't treat a border collie, like a Great Pyrenese. Just treat them generically as dog is actually abuse.

@watchmoivies123

25 күн бұрын

Well, I don’t wanna keep getting back-and-forth, but I do believe all dogs are equal and if somebody’s looking for a certain dog, if they look hard enough, they’ll find it either in a shelter or where someone can’t keep it anymore or a friend of a friend Just gotta do a lot of homework and keep looking. You’ll find the dog that suits your needs whether you do obedience agility personal protection or just a good, happy, healthy pet. You’ll find it. And it will have all the qualities that it was Bread to do just didn’t fit in in that home and crying to find its perfect home.

@watchmoivies123

25 күн бұрын

Breed

@lukeryuzaki2328

25 күн бұрын

@@watchmoivies123 . You don't see the contradiction in your own words? Why would you have to look hard for specific traits (also talent) if every dog is equal?! As I pointed out before, show me a Border Collie that can do apprehension police work just as well as Malinois or German Shepherd. Anyone experienced enough know the reason is that Border Collie is not only physically incompatible but mentally incompatible since they're bred to be extreme sound sensitive. Stop and projecting. Yes shelter is not good a place for dogs to live, but dogs don't have the same perception as human. They don't dream of a ideal home in their mind, and crying. We love dog because they follow their master through thick and thin. Finding a good match between a dog and the master is uttermost important. However, the master would have specific expectation for their future dogs. That specific expectation means inequality. Some expectation is lower standard, and that person may find such dogs in shelters. For high standard expectations, it would cost more in time to find a dog that meet such standard. For example: How do you guarantee a dog would be free of certain physical issue down the road when you have no pedigree to look at? Nobody can outtrain genetic. Let's agree to disagree. You have your ideal, but you don't have argument in this debate. I'm not here to change you, but to say what I did.

@watchmoivies123

25 күн бұрын

@@lukeryuzaki2328 all dogs are equal, but some dogs were bred to do specific things and you can find that dog in a shelter or elsewhere you don’t have to go to another country to find that dog

No right to life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness. It's for your safety. - The eXpErTs

Sick tiger 50

Plenty of dogs available in local shelters!

@wtan5814

18 күн бұрын

They're for you

FFS. Everything isn’t about your rights, or your freedom. You don’t like the regs? Go to your Congressperson and figure out how to change it.

So the good guys have to turn into bad guys , Yhea that's crazy ,

You will just have to import the puppies in utero.

Is this a rule or is it a law. There's a difference...rules can be changed back...laws not so easy. You are 100% correct...way you too much government

@mell.7817

25 күн бұрын

These countries and political units are considered high risk for importing dog rabies into the United States. It has been on the books for years. This is the list from the CDC. It’s on the website.They just extended it. Afghanistan Algeria Angola Armenia Azerbaijan Bangladesh Belarus Belize Benin Bolivia Botswana Brazil Burkina Faso Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Central African Republic Ceuta Chad China (excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan) Colombia Comoros Côte d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast) Cuba Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ecuador Egypt El Salvador Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Eswatini (Swaziland) Ethiopia Gabon Gambia Georgia Ghana Guatemala Guinea Guinea-Bissau Guyana Haiti Honduras India Indonesia Iran Iraq Jordan Kazakhstan Kenya Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Laos Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Libya Madagascar Malawi Malaysia Mali Mauritania Melilla Moldova Mongolia Morocco (including Western Sahara) Mozambique Myanmar (Burma) Namibia

I am so sick of our current establishment, who is organizing to take our country back to being BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE?

@BigBADSTUFF69

25 күн бұрын

certainly not you LOL

@mell.7817

24 күн бұрын

Robert did not complete his research. This only applies to 113 high risk countries. It started during Covid by the previous admin and is being extended to the 113. Most European countries are not included. It wasn’t political, but done for safety standards.

It is an extension of a temporary band that has been extended. It’s for 113 countries.. Germany, Belgian and other European countries aren’t even on the list. Before everyone blows a gasket, maybe it is better erase arch further. I hope this helps. Info from CDC. These countries and political units are considered high risk for importing dog rabies into the United States. Afghanistan Algeria Angola Armenia Azerbaijan Bangladesh Belarus Belize Benin Bolivia Botswana Brazil Burkina Faso Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Central African Republic Ceuta Chad China (excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan) Colombia Comoros Côte d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast) Cuba Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ecuador Egypt El Salvador Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Eswatini (Swaziland) Ethiopia Gabon Gambia Georgia Ghana Guatemala Guinea Guinea-Bissau Guyana Haiti Honduras India Indonesia Iran Iraq Jordan Kazakhstan Kenya Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Laos Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Libya Madagascar Malawi Malaysia Mali Mauritania Melilla Moldova Mongolia Morocco (including Western Sahara) Mozambique Myanmar (Burma) Namibia😅

@megalonode

25 күн бұрын

The CDC itself says you will not be able to import a puppy from Canada until it is six months old. It applies to all dogs entering from outside of the U.S. from any country.

@CCOREY5

25 күн бұрын

Nope. Incorrect. NO county of origin as of aug 1 is ok if the pup is under 6 mo of age. No matter what country. You can not import a dog under 6 months as of aug. 1 …period.

@mell.7817

24 күн бұрын

This is straight from the CDC. Make sure you do your research before flying off the handle.

There will probably be an exception for dogs who wear masks as long as they are vax’d/boosted 😂

Time for another sit down interview podcast...this time with Larry Krohn & Haz Othman on how government likes to screw things up under the guise of "making things better / safer"...in the context of dogs of course.

@wastelandsniper789

25 күн бұрын

I'd watch the hell out of an interview/chat between Robert and Haz.

@BigBADSTUFF69

25 күн бұрын

Larry Krohn is a fed though

@brendad7559

24 күн бұрын

You know Haz is Canadian, right!?

@SergioImbarlina

24 күн бұрын

@@brendad7559 Yup - hasn't prevented him from commenting on what goes on here in The States. He's got an eye on European, Canadian, & US trends. He buys alot from Europe & sold alot through Canada & the United States. Not to mention one of his IPO buddies lives in N.Y. So yeah - he's got his finger on the pulse of the industry.

I have the middle finger for all governments!!

@BigBADSTUFF69

25 күн бұрын

that's extremely naive, you take for granted the stability that you get. Not defending this law at all, I don't agree with it but it's truly stupid to just want anarchy.

GlobaIllst plan dogs now Hilarious

What does the CDC have to do with this?!

@mell.7817

24 күн бұрын

Health concerns. It was started during Covid and only applies to 113 high risk countries. Most European countries aren’t on the list. These countries often don’t have the same guidelines for animal health. Rabies is still problematic in these countries and it can’t always be assumed that the puppies will have antibodies since the mom may never have been vaccinated. There are also many more virus and bacteria that we don’t have a problem with in this country.

Just more crap

Im furious! This is nonsense.

Still thinking we’re going to vote our way out of this in 2024 is down right insane. Total insanity.

@johncspine2787

25 күн бұрын

As long as we don’t have a truth in broadcast news law, we will have fake Fox propaganda infecting our country with multiple other noxious right wing outlets poisoning minds 24/7. The right wing is still supporting an outright incompetent criminal for the highest office in our country, which is simply unbelievable.

@karinchristensen220

25 күн бұрын

That's for sure.

@thankmelater1254

25 күн бұрын

and looking for a politician to give you your rights is also not right

Anything to make your life more difficult. That's the purpose of progressive government.

How does this effect frozen sperm for Artificial Insemination ??

talking overreaching USA wants to get rid of back yard chickens this should be a red light and bell alarm

Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb and not fact check this or my upcoming thoughts. But my common sense tells me the CDC officials that were ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THIS RULING did so based on recommendations from subordinates. Subordinates that were fed bullshit by someone else and did absolutely dick to truly understand what problems there are or ARE NOT. And how those problems should be addressed further. Now this lack of true understanding or information was likely planted on them by someone that could BENEFIT from this "rule". So who sells puppies that has possible money and/or clout, enough too affect such rules? Your two big ass corporate pet chains that sell puppies! I brought my Belgian Malinois road dog with me too retirement in the Philippines. I had to jump through a shit-ton of paperwork, vaccines for everything under the dog-sun, certificates of health which 99% of vets are not licensed to provide for exporting pets, etc. So those rules I don't have an issue with. It's the 6 month rule we take issue on. So change it! Bombard CDC with THE REASONS to change to 10-12 weeks or whatever, but leave the healthy requirements intact.