Great History Lesson. Now I know what CCI stands for.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Cascade Cartridges Inc. CCI is just so much easier to say.

CCI introduced the Mini Mag the year I graduated from high school. What a benchmark!

I have several boxes of 100 count mini mags with a price tag of $2.96 from Gibson Discount Center bought in Lufkin Texas many moons ago. I took one out of the box and shot it out of my Thompson Center Hot Shot Boy Scout model single shot just to see if they were still good. Not a problem, still good. From the price tag you can see they are old.I look at the price and remember the good times.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Wow! $2.96 a box?!? Those days are long gone, but they contain some fond memories.

@markalexander832

Жыл бұрын

I dug out a 100-round plastic box of Federal Hi-Power, also purchased from Gibson's at $2.10, likely from sometime in the mid-70's when a kid could still buy ammo. The world has changed since then.

@zachary50yearsago27

2 ай бұрын

i have a box of Kleanbore sureshot 12 ga papers shells with 12 in the box and 9 sears 16ga paper shells in the same box

@zachary50yearsago27

2 ай бұрын

has on the box$ 2.88

It costs a bit more than other brands but it has fewer misfires and more consistent accuracy. Well worth the money.

@ACommenterOnYouTube

3 ай бұрын

Rather pay more $$ and have reliability then go cheap with more mis fires

Thank you for this test-demonstration . CCI MiniMags have been my favorites and you have clearly shown me why.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

They have always been good performers out of most of my guns.

Thank you for the great work Sir

Excellent video. Thanks

ANother great video. Decades ago, WW was my most accurate and trusted 22LR in my rifles, but then something changed with them. Then in the early 1980's, I retested the CCI Mini Mag in my 581 and 572, and it won hands down. Very often, the Mini Mag would give ragged hole 5 shot groups at 50yds, and in the 513T, it was the most accurate high velocity 22 I ever used. Given the speed of the Mini Mag and accuracy, I began sighting my squirrel rifles for 60yds instead of the traditional 50yds, and this gave me a mid range height above target, HOT, of only 1/4" or so. Thus, extending my point blank range on squirrels and other. Countless squirrels, rabbits, prairie dogs, black birds, crows and even a couple of deer have fallen to the Mini Mag, and today living in the West, I use it for long range shooting on prairie dogs and other. Through the years, I occasionally retest and test other brands and styles, but for high velocity 22LR's, the Mini Mag is still the top performer in most of my rifles. Again, thanks for the video

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

It was my pleasure. I can say that honestly because I am very fond of my rifles, and I absolutely enjoy testing ammo....especially .22 rimfire. I have also found that Winchester used to make really good ammo, but as you stated, "something changed". I couldn't agree more.

CCI mini mags has always been my favorite 22 bullets

Surprising velocity and impressive performance at both ranges

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I was really impressed with the velocity. They are rather conservative in their velocity ratings listed on the box.

Another great demonstration of just how capable the Mini Mag is. I was astonished at not only the accuracy, but the consistency of the expansion. Also, a very tight deviation on the velocity. I am right there with Boomstick on the rounds I tend to concentrate on, the Mini Mags and Standard Velocity. It was a hoot riding along with you last night on the phone as we tracked that GunBroker auction, I’m looking forward to seeing that Winchester 69A on a future video. Congratulations on a good score.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Yes that was indeed an interesting little experience, and to share it with you made it special. I think I'll do an unboxing video to share with the viewers. Thanks for being with me on that.

CCI is the best rim fire ammo I ever used. I love the Stingers. I shoot them in my Henry lever gun and it never fails.

GREAT video with EXCELLENT content !! - Thanks fer so graciously sharing, appreciate it !!

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your comment.😊

great info thank you SIR

As always, I appreciate your knowledge, your advice, and your great videos. And I might add, your phenomenal collection of .22 rifles! Love your channel Sir! Thank you for what you do!

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I think we share an adoration for old vintage .22's. I hope to bring you more. The .22 series has become an important part of my channel.

Great video Tom, I really enjoyed it. The results were better than I expected. JT

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I was pleased with the results as well. CCI is just good in terms of quality.

Great video! I’m just blown away by the performance of CCI mini mags. Deadly little round!

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I was well pleased with them.😊

Impressive velocity out of the Mini Mags, and accuracy as well. Great video! Always enjoy your rimfire content.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kent.

Great video and shooting !!

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I need all the help I can get.

Very nice. Thanks for the video

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

It is my pleasure. 😊

Very cool sir, thank you for the video.

That combination is my go to for hunting with a rimfire. I’ve had a 581 for many years (since the late 70’s) and have killed a ton of critters with it and the CCI mini mag 36 gr. HP.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

The Remington 581 is tough to beat. I am rather fond of mine.

Another great video, great info 👍🇬🇧

When it first came out I remember the pictures of the orange that was shot with a stinger in slow motion in ads with the peel coming apart like a jigsaw puzzle.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing that also. It looked like it just atomized that orange!

There was a video on KZread a few years ago about a time when Federal was making Mini Mags for CCI when they were unable to keep up with demand if I remember correctly. I have some boxes of Mini Mags and Stingers that are over 30 years old. I buy 1000 to 1200 rounds of them a month. I enjoy your videos on 22 firearms and look forward to seeing more. I just the video, it is titled CCI Blazer by Federal. The video is 10 years old.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'll try and find it.

Wow I often wondered now we know. I love your videos. You are always dead on with the truth about shooting. Keep the info coming. God Bless ya buddy.😊

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jim. Hope all is well.

Thanks a lot for your knowledge.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I share what I can. Most of what you see in the videos is just what I experience as I film it.

I’ve always loved CCI mini mags and stingers. In 1971, I got a Marlin 989M2 for Christmas. I was 12 years old. It preferred CCI mini mags. That and stingers is bout near all I ever shot in it for hunting or if I wanted to hit small targets at longer distances. Great video on a great product.

Great video (just discovered it.) The Mini Mag has been my personal favorite 22LR round for a long time. About a year ago, during a move, I found in the drawer on my rifle rack several boxes of old ammo of various calibers, including half a box of Mini Mag 22LRs. This ammo was well over 20 years old, curious, I decided to try it out to see if it still was good. I shot several from a rifle and some more from a SAA revolver and was surprised to see that it appeared to be shooting as powerfully and as accurately as the day it was bough!

Another great video Mr CO !!!! I like CCI ammo very much and have also had good results using SK ammo too. Thanks and take care !!!! 😁🇺🇸😁🇺🇸

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

SK ammo has become a favorite of mine!

CO, this video is exactly why I commented in your "is this the worst 22 ammo in the world" video a week or so ago, that it is beyoond me why anyone would shoot anything other than CCI mini-mag 22 ammo. Thank you for proving my point !! Yes I know CCI is a bit more pricey than others, but, as they say, it's only money, you can make some more lol. Great video CO. It appears that the penetration at 100 was almost the same as at 50. I can tell you one thing.....I don't want to get shot with a 22 at either distance.

CCI mini mag HP’s were my favorite 22LR ammo for many years in my Ruger mark II and my Remington 541-T.

That's impressive! I didn't know they performed quite that good.

Brilliant test !! your rifle loves them, my CZ-455 don't unfortunately, great video, cheers from southern Ireland.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

That little Remington seems to shoot most .22 ammo well.

Thank you very much for the great video, This is the best video I have ever seen, on .22 lr gives all the info a person needs, I use CCI standard velocity in my Savage Mark II TR and FVT and in my Savage A22 use the 40 grain Mini Mag, Target, but can only find the 36 grain HP so glad to see they also work great, Have lost over half my free range chickens to foxes this year. Come hinting season think I will be giving them a test.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind remarks. Glad you liked the video. In regards to your free-range chickens...I'm pretty sure you don't have to wait until hunting season to take care the problem with foxes. If they are on your property and killing your livestock, you should be able to eliminate any varmints. I once had 26 Bantams that I raised. All of them fell victim to hawks and foxes, so I know how frustrating it is.

@hiltonmcconnell2563

Жыл бұрын

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I had hawk problems, and called and was told that I am not allowed to kill the hawk, not sure about the fox, I will call and ask.

CCI Mini Mags have been my go to ammo since '75 in my Glenfield 60. The consistency is the best & I know if I miss it's me. I did use the Stingers when they first came out & I had to replace my buffers, so I went back to MM hp and the accuracy in my rifle, a little more tighter groups. Thanks for another great video, keeping the classics alive.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Hyper velocity ammo is a bit rough on those recoil buffers.

I have always loved the CCI mini-mag 22 lr ammo. They are accurate in all my rifles and pistols, and expand very well on game. They are probably the most reliable and clean shooting 22lr ammo too. They are a little pricey compared to most other 22lr ammo, but I watch the sales and buy it in large quantities when I do.

@ACommenterOnYouTube

3 ай бұрын

They are the best !!!

The 40 grainers are an awesome little round.

I am using Remington Value Pack 22 (36 grain) in my very old BRNO bolt rifle, the Remington bullets fits my rifle very good. I hunt rabbits and grouse. Best regards from North of Norway.

@thomasjohansen4788

Жыл бұрын

My rifle is from 1967, targeted in on 100 meters / 109 yards ( we use metric system in Norway)

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasjohansen4788 Those older BRNO bolt .22's are known for great accuracy. If I ever run across one I will try to get my hands on it! Greetings to you from Tennessee.

Great video

Excellent demonstration of the CCI Minimag rounds.👍 Of the many types of 22LR that I shoot through my old Glenfield Mod 60, only the CCI mini's give 100% function and supurb accuracy and performance. Can't say the same with Federal or Winchester though. Too many misfires and scattered groups. I plink and practice with those (and others) and reserve the use of the CCI's for serious work on the varmints that run through my woods where I live. Thanks for the information and review. Always great to watch.👍

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love those older Marlin/Glenfield model 60's!

The mini mag is one of my favorites! I hate CCI discontinued the SGB small game bullet. They were devastating on squirrels. Love the content buddy. God bless.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

That is unfortunate, but maybe they'll come out with something new, and/or better. Thanks for your support.

Started buyin em in 66 when I was 12 years old here in S E Idaho for .59 centc a box to shoot jack rabbits. Never got the Stingers to shoot well enough to jutify the expense, AND Uncle Sugar kept me supplied with enough 5.56 to keep me interested in varmint shooting...

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

You must live close to where my dad was born in Idaho Falls.

@darreldwalton8763

Жыл бұрын

@Cumberland Outdoorsman Grew up in Blackfoot, 26 miles down the road. Married my beautiful Bride from Idaho Falls! Small world, ain't it?

Anyone remember the CCI mini mag +V . They were around in late 80s and early 90s .

All my .22's run CCI mini mags flawlessly. Without a doubt the best pistol cartridge for the money.

Wow! The Mine-Mag velocities were high! Amazing.

Thanks for the very informative vid. I’ve shot the CCI stingers for many years they are a great round. I’ve shot every thing from targets / squirrels/ coyotes. Deadly Have you done a vid on the CCI velocitor ? Thanks

...also picked up 10 boxes of the Stingers for 9 bux each at the same show...

CCI ammo is good stuff. I have quite a few vintage .22 rifles and shoot a lot of the CCI Standard Velocity. I have stocked up my CCI Mini-Mag and .22 WMR Maxi-Mag supply too.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I need to get a .22 magnum. Not that I need it, I just want one.😁

@cpenland

Жыл бұрын

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I grew up shooting my Uncle's Marlin Model 25MN and always thought back fondly on how well it shot and the associated memories of us target shooting and hunting. I had a Marlin Model 20 .22lr and we would shoot at targets we drew on paper plates and paper. That .22 WMR was too much on squirrels, but it excelled at crows, black birds and groundhogs. My Uncle passed and my first cousin ended up with the 25MN and said he was passing it to his daughter. So, I got to looking around for one just a couple of years back and couldn't find a 25MN at the time and settled on a 782, which looks similar. People are snatching up the JM stamped ones and driving the prices up on them, if you find one in good shape they're commanding good money. I have always had a fondness for the .22 mag, so yeah, get you a nice one and do some testing for us.

...picked up 3 bricks of these at the Vero Beach, FL show at the beginning of this month for 40 bux each - a good deal for these times.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Good catch! Jump on a good deal when you find it!😊

@mohammedcohen

Жыл бұрын

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman ...I had been buying them for 55 a 'brick' and thought that was good (it was - relatively)...and then a few aisles over I saw them @ 39.95 a brick...I also bought all of his Stinger ammo @ $8.99...

It’s good stuff. I’ve been wondering how that Browning 22 ammo would compare

A couple of years ago I lucked out and found a 581s. My go to ammo is the CCI Mini Mag 40gn RN and the 36 gn HP. The HP seems to be just a tiny bit more accurate than the 40gn .Norma is a tiny better then the CCI. The SV CCI is the most accurate, so far.The Mag Tec 40gnRN SV does fairly well, too. To get the Best out of the Federal Auto Match ya just have to WEIGH them. Then ones that weight the same hit on top of each other. The Light ones hit Low and to the Right, the heavies hit High and to the Left. My other 22 rifle is the Ruger "International". With both rifles I can hit a 8 inch steel plate at 100 yards 5 out of 5 At 200 yards 7 out of 10, with practice I should get a little better. It really doesn't matter what rifle or ammo, what it all boils down to is PRACTICE.

Nice mushrooms, very interested in seeing some recovered from game

Thats all i use, CCI Mini Mags and CCI AR Tacticals 👍🏾 They are the best

I got some old Winchester Super max 34 grain hyper velocity hollow point from the 70s with the orange and red stripe on the box they quit making back in 96 that's a hot🔥 little round it's rated at 1400 feet per second my MARLIN 60 loves 😁 them just like it loves everything thing else shoot on my friend 🤘

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

3 ай бұрын

Yes indeed. I have just a few Winchester Super Max left- (about 20 rounds). I wish I could get my hands on a brick of it because they performed so well, and they were a good looking little round. I remember them well. I don't know why they stopped making them. Marlin 60's are starting to become collectors items, and like good ammo, they will be a thing of the past.

check out the CCI-SGB (small game bullet) it is a mini mag with a triuncated flat nose,, hits HARD

One of My Favorite Rounds For Hunting Squirrel Also 😀😊

CCI / speer has always performed well for me !

The CCI segmented is very effective on pests and I have not had any ricochet

I brought a lots of ammo way back in 1970 when the price per brick was like $5.25 or 89 cents a box. I hide this ammo for 50 years and I was told that the shef life of any RIM fire ammo is 3 years old. The center fire ammo is about 5 years. I fired my father ammo that was a pre war era that made by Winchester Olin in Alton Illinois for Frankford Arsenal and all of them were performed well without issue. I do believe an old ammo is still good after dry and clean storage dispute the order to be destroyed by P. Clinton in 1994 under the crime bills for ex military ammo!

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

5 ай бұрын

If it's kept dry, and in consistent temperatures it can last surprizingly long.

I have been shooting since the late seventies, and enjoy shooting 22lr. CCI has had some issues over the years. The quality has been up and down for accuracy and reliability. I didn’t shoot CCI for many years because of it. But in the last 15 years I started using it again and found it one of the better if not best products. I would use it over any of the European ammo. Especially the sub sonic. Accuracy counts.

Thanks for the information in the video. Federal punch is the new king. Can't go wrong with both but the federal punch beats the stingers now.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

8 ай бұрын

I appreciate your comment. I have tested Federal Punch, and in my opinion, it is really only useful for it's intended purpose (self defense).

@ACommenterOnYouTube

3 ай бұрын

I disagree with penetration for self defense. JHP dont penetrate, they create wound channels ...

Great Video ! I’m surprised by those velocities , what’s your barrel length? I’m using a Brno Mod 2 (manufactured in 1988) , 23 inch barrel. I haven’t tried Mini Mags , but after watching your video I’m going to give them a try ! Regards from South Africa 🇿🇦

CCI Mini-mag and Federal Champion in .22LR are the most used .22LR used in Steel Challenge competition.

They are also some of the most RELIABLE ,22s!

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

_*Hey! I have a full 50rd box of the oldest you showed. An older friend passed and left his storage to me and in going through the many many boxes - I've found a bunch of cool older stuff! Do you know if that's the original box style from the 1963 era - when I was only 3yrs old? 😏 Another fun video! - Keep 'em comin'!! 👍

@JAFO.

4 ай бұрын

I just did a little bit of math real quick like and determined that it would take a 9 mm, 115 grain round traveling 1250 feet per second to equal the energy which these CCI mini mag hollow points deliver if you take into consideration the difference ratio in frontal area.

Well! I learned something today, and it's still early! I was surprised at the consistency of this, and had never seen the wet newspaper before. I thought there was going to be a block of something behind that. Wild! Recovering the actual bullets was a surprise to me. This all has a small personal interest locally, since I bought a bunch of this ammunition recently based on a wrong idea, and I'm kind of stuck with it! It's just paper targets for me, and I'm trying to standardize on standard velocity or sub-sonic now that I have... part of a clue. NOW I think that this ammunition (like the guns themselves) are better than me, and I just have to pick one or two pistols to only use the Mini Mags, and sight in like that, and just slowly use them up. I guess this will be that "trigger time" that people talk about. Well! I guess I can finish the video, clean a few pistols, and be at the range by the time it opens, with a new idea!

Good ol' Cascade Cartridges Inc. By the videos I've watched, seems maybe the most notable .22LR rimfire cartridge developed in recent times is the Federal Punch 29gr. It's quick enough in short barrels but really scoots in rifle barrels. Seems nothing can out-penetrate it in gel, and I've had a long list of rimfire loads I believed would, but haven't. Not sure what makes that bullet so capable of penetration, it doesn't appear to be super special, but it does have a bit of a flat point.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

I have a video posted where I test Federal Punch along with some other .22 loadings for self defense. It does penetrate deeply, but hardly any expansion. The cost is a bit high, but it is premium grade ammo.

@exothermal.sprocket

Жыл бұрын

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Yeah, serves a different purpose for sure, that being traveling deeply through meat and bone. Expansion would stop it just as soon as most others, I suppose.

The 36gr mini-mags go in our stash, along with some of the 40gr mini-mags...the other 40gr rounds are used for testing...over the years the ammo has done just fine, although one box wasn't very good (millions sold, we happened to buy the one box that had multiple duds)...overall, we rate the mini-mags A...

Yup!

the best

Looks like could have even went farther with the way they went in your medium. Barrel length can change velocity such as a pistol but is there any loss as from Bolt action to Semi auto? Great video Thanks. .

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. I should do some shooting at 150 yards. A great video idea.

I never could get very good accuracy out of Stingers. My go to is Mini Mag 36gr HP.

Those are some hot HVHP's.

Good ammo

👍👍

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!😊

Can't go wrong with CCI.

The mini mag is an amazing round,but I had better results in my ruger 77/22lr with the mini mag +v in 22lr I have not been able to find those for the past 5 years are they discontinued?

True

CCI is definitely the king of rimfires and the mini mag is the gold standard. Whenever anyone is having trouble with a semi auto .22 the first thing I ask is, have you tried mini mags?... Because if your gun won't run mini mags it's broke. Lol...

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Those Mini Mags are highly functional in just about any kind of gun.

It's a brilliant idea to use "wet newspaper" as the expansion medium, and the result is so surprisingly good. But there isn't much newspaper available these days, is there? It must be hard to find so much.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

5 ай бұрын

Great question. Newsprint is still available, but you have to have a good source.😉

@liedebunker1253

5 ай бұрын

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman 😄

Hey, I should rig my Black Beauty .22 rifle to fire fully auto with Mini Mags. Tat tat tat tat tat!

CCI stingers have longer cases than the mini mag or standard 22LR cases. Only rimfire I own that likes stingers is my 1960 Marlin 39A.

CCI has always delivered in my book, no need to buy anything else...

Try to find a box of SK high velocity hollow point. anyway, A very good video,thanks.

Hundreds of rabbits , pigeon and the occasionally ring-neck have fallen to that .

The original Stinger was made by Omark Industries. Was this part of CCI?

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

After looking at one of my vintage Stinger ammo boxes, I discovered a listing on the back of the box that reads...(Omark Industries CCI-Speer Lewiston Idaho). I am guessing that Omark Industries was once a co-owner?

How you getting those speeds? Your getting near Velocitor speeds.

....just picked up 4 boxes of Federal Bulk Target at Walmart - for $18.97...DOWN $2.19...first time ever (at least in recent memory) that Federal dropped it's price on this stuff...

Curious as to the measured depth into the wet newspaper.

I have some CCI Stangers .

Forgive my ignorance. I’m a new shooter. I understand long rifle and magnum. Different size and guns specific to each. N Where did the mini mag fit in? Is it shot in a long rifle or a magnum? Will it fire in eithe?

@garywoodlief1976

11 ай бұрын

Mini mag is same as long rifle not magnum

@ACommenterOnYouTube

3 ай бұрын

22LR is long rifle 22L is long 22S is Short 22WM is 22 winchester Magnum or 22 Magnum for short. 3 different sized bullets for 3 different guns

@frankedgar6694

3 ай бұрын

@@ACommenterOnKZread Do you know about the minimag? That was the question.

@ACommenterOnYouTube

3 ай бұрын

@@frankedgar6694 Mini Mag is a 22"LR" that is shot in a Long Rifle. Ruger 10/22 Keltec P17 SW MP22 Ruger SR22 Sig P322 /\ Those guns will shoot a 22"LR" round 22 Magnum is a different sized round and will NOT fit in a Long Rifle chamber

How many inches of paper was that

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

The stack measured about a foot in thickness.

Hard to beat CCI ammunition for hunting and target shooting.

How about the same test with Winchester silver box .great bullet performance that would rip up a woodchuck

Can we see an accuracy and performance test on the Winchester Hyper Speed HPT 40-Grain

the Stinger does not eject when fired out of my Sig Mosquito 22 cal. pistol, come to think about it, the CCI mini mag is the only round that will eject constantly from the Mosquito......No Remington or Federal will work in that gun either.....

@ACommenterOnYouTube

3 ай бұрын

I have the P17 and ran about 100 stingers thru it and only 1 failed to eject out of the chamber, had to get my tiny flat head screwdriver to pull it out.

or an eye shot at 2 legged predators..

Bolt action will give a higher FPS as the bolt remains closed until after the bullet leaves the barrel

@ACommenterOnYouTube

3 ай бұрын

That is 100% fact.

157lbs of muzzle energy.

@CumberlandOutdoorsman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure of the energy figures with the velocities I got.

@tomallen6073

Жыл бұрын

I like to know the numbers. Stout for a .22, and the accuracy, impressive!