Caught On Camera! Norfolk Southern Train Breaks Knuckle + Goes Into Emergency! Chasing Heritage Unit
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Caught On Camera! Norfolk Southern Train Breaks Knuckle + Goes Into Emergency! Chasing Missouri Pacific Heritage Unit.
0:00 Intro.
0:56 Train going by then you can hear the air dump!
great footage on a rainy day, what luck!
2:50 start of the emergency braking - you're welcome! =)
3:23 if you listen closely just as the train comes to a full stop you can hear the head end of the train blowing its horn...
4:00 engineer radio call to dispatch, track speed and energy management
8:10 radio announcement knuckle broken
9:00 first sighting of the separation at a distance
9:34 relocated to within the separation
10:35 close up of the metal fracture
11:19 radio call with a creative solution idea...
11:40 let's find someone almost as smart as we are LOL
15:20 conductor radio call, cause of separation was broken air hose that the resulting braking load broke the knuckle. I'm sure he's correct, it just seemed to me at the 2:50 that the force/impact of the breakage seemed to be heard first before the emergency brakes kicked in, but I'll defer to his first hand experience
3 Trains in all in this action packed train video filmed in and around Dun Kirk NY on July 11th 2021.
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Here's how you can tell the train is way too long. At 19:50 the conductor has to hold his radio up in the air as far as possible just so the engineer can hear him! They need mobile repeater extenders in the middle of these huge trains. lol
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Yes this is true, he mentions that on the radio that he is holding it up higher to get better reception
@guerropeuto801
2 жыл бұрын
No they need to quit being dicks and they need to shorten these trains
@andywomack3414
2 жыл бұрын
@@guerropeuto801 Shareholder value first, safety and public interest last.
@larryfields2652
2 жыл бұрын
@@WideWorldofTrains being a Ham I found if you had a better antenna would work I been told those short antenna's are usually about 1/2 mile
@larryfields2652
2 жыл бұрын
when I worked for the USN on a recovery ship our vessel was only 200 ft long in the control room only 50 ft away someone tried to call after steering with the hatch open they could talk, but once closed they could not talk, they tried to get a repeater on board and it would take up the entire budget of the ships op, the USN turned it down
That was fascinating - and it shows how well the automatic brakes work. Thank you.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching I'm glad you enjoy my videos
The no train horns, is a joke. The trains were there first. If you didn't like the trains, why would you move near the tracks?
@captainkeyboard1007
2 жыл бұрын
Right on, Bob!
@HolidayDecorator
2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! Just like the idiots that buy a house directly next to an airport, then constantly complain about the airplane noise! Come on, how could you *NOT* know the airport was there? People are just plain stupid, and no one is ever going to fix that issue!
@charleslewis5828
2 жыл бұрын
Or build near a hog operation and complain bout the smell.
@Og-Judy
Жыл бұрын
No train horns is generally for hours people are SLEEPING not 24/7🙄
@HolidayDecorator
Жыл бұрын
@@Og-Judy nope, you are incorrect. Once a "NO TRAIN HORN ZONE" is set in place it IS 24/7/365 from the time of its inception. We have many new NO TRAIN HORN ZONE areas in Florida. The trains CAN NOT use their horns in these zones unless it is an emergency situation. Otherwise, bells/horns on the train, as well crossing bells are silenced. Some crossings the bells will still work from 8am until 6pm, then they are silenced. But, the train itself in these NO HORN ZONES are now silenced 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year {366 on leap years}. I'm actually surprised we haven't heard complaints about the other very loud noises that emanate from a passing train. Like the wheel squeals, thumping of a car with a wheel that has a flat spot, the locomotives rumbling by, or the vibrations from the passing train{s}!
I grew up in Missouri and remember those MO-Pac's going thru every day and night. We had a Mo-Pac rail shop in my hometown of Sedalia, MO. I remember the blue colors with the red and white logos to this day. thank you for the memory.
@marcmo7138
2 жыл бұрын
We used to have a MO PAC roundhouse in my hometown of Sparta IL. It was featured in the original In the heat of the night movie.
That was great coverage on the emergency, that event was a rare treat! It's interesting seeing all the blocked crossings. Also: T'was a WET day in NY but I like seeing trains in the rain, so thanks for your efforts out there in the weather.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Rick! Im glad you liked the video
@jeffreymcfadden9403
2 жыл бұрын
Not so rare since NS runs trains over a mile+ long. (A legacy of HH and his deluded idea of psr) I live near a town that ONCE had trains that would go into the passing siding all the time. I have not seen a train in the passing siding in at least 5 years now. The siding is not long enough for todays trains! I expect NS to take out the siding.
Good catch on that separation. Makes you realize how close to failure those components are on those long trains. Local residents are fairly fortunate that the separation ended up spanning that one crossing so they could get through. Also lucky catch on that Mo-Pac heritage unit. I've actually got a HO scale Mo-Pac transfer caboose on its way to me right now.
@vernonmatthews181
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was just a Sunday. 😁😄👌👍😷
A Broken knuckle . 😅the train guy know just what to do. Very sharp. 😅
As an engineer for the NS for 33 years out of buffalo, I love how people who only watch know ALL the answers!!
@ronbaker8383
10 ай бұрын
I agree. I learn a bit when I was younger parents had a friend that ran work train. I got to ride for the day. Was the most exciting thing of my youth
Well, what starts with a hairline crack ends in the knuckle break. That just happens with the railway. It's always nice to see someone filming it. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sven hello there
I like those pedestrian crossing gates. We don't have those. One time when a train was going by my house I heard a loud bang early in the morning. The train broke into 3 pieces. I used my car to transport parts for the crew so they could fix the breaks. They kept extra parts in the caboose. That was a while back. lol
@briansumner2700
2 жыл бұрын
Caboose! Wow 25 years ago?
@johnhalstead5006
2 жыл бұрын
That was nice 👍🏻 of you Jaw Tooth 🦷. Johnny
@johnhalstead5006
2 жыл бұрын
Just like yesterday Brian only 1/4 of a century later. That’s all. GN. Johnny
@vernonmatthews181
2 жыл бұрын
Your definitely the good samaritan Brian, good on you, & merry Christmas. 😇🥳
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's cool, I just saw this comment, its from 4 months ago lol
I lived across from train tracks in northern Michigan , every day I ran across the street and waved to the engineer !! Highlight of my day !!
Crazy how they can stop so fast in emergency.
I watched this man when I was five, now I'm ten.
Thant knuckle is BROKE broke! 😧 That UP1982 is beautiful!
Stopped faster than I had expected. Those design engineers do a great job.
That is a hitch. To connect to another. But this one, the metal was worn out and it just broke. 😂
Hey wwot I might have to miss the video tonight my auntie have to be at work at 630pm so good video as always
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
All good
Wow WWOT! You catch some awesome trains and such. Can't wait for the premier!
@WideWorldofTrains
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks appreciate it
@WideWorldofTrains
3 жыл бұрын
@Brandden Rittenhouse What part?
@WideWorldofTrains
3 жыл бұрын
@Brandden Rittenhouse Yes about 200 cars on this train, i get lots of big train videos
One of my favorite Heritage units and caboose’s to boot!
That was a great show, thx WWOT!
Wide World Of Trains, you made another sure shot. That great catch in the rain was worth the while.
Great camera. You can see the point of failure at 10:49 in the broken knuckle where there is a spot of rust surrounded by the freshly torn away metal.
@paulwarner5395
2 жыл бұрын
Looked like maybe a casting fault on it as well where it's not nice and shiny
Hey man good catch up on the ns train I am glad you were there so you could film the train
Great job bro. Lucky you. A parting of the rake and it's recoupling. Whole new thing I got to see. Loved that end parallel runnin along with freight. Damn those vegetation that came in between.
Thanks for another great video.!!!
Fantastic coverage!
@WideWorldofTrains
7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow!! That is amazing! Wish you couldve filmed them putting the knuckle on. But not complaining, great video!!
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Nice that it was day you were being escorted about. Too cool. Unique capture alright!
I've never seen this--great grab. Radio traffic is awesome--makes the difference. Nice job as always. Thanks for putting this together.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it
@frombryant6678
2 жыл бұрын
I whole heartedly agree. It's great to have a radio with you in times like these or anytime actually. You know when one is approaching at greater distances & can be camera ready.
Fascinating! Excellent catch.
The length of freight trains in USA is incredible to us Australians. It seems inconceivable that the locos can move the train.
@mathewrussell1533
2 жыл бұрын
You need to get out more and look at freight outside the cities. Freight in Australia can be between 2-3km long if its needed.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Trains in the US are generally much heavier than other parts of the world
Wow, what a nice catch plus an emergency stop!
Nice and relaxing thank you very much. Yes it's Monday an extension of Friday and more crap at work. Not complaining too much I hope but thank you for the relaxing videos, it is so nice.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, thanks for watching I'm glad you enjoy my videos
I love how this guy is playing railroad police so funny.
Your content is amazing! Thanks for the excellent coverage. 👍
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
Awesome footage, so rare to see one caboose let alone a double caboose ending.. thanks for sharing
Awesome stuff! Q001 and Q009 both by Fairport NY in the last 30 minutes. Csx 3194 leading Q009.
Hey wide world of trains 🚂 I wanted to let you know that I loved the video you got a good few shots of where the train came apart and of the broken knuckle on 173th and 174th cars also a good shot of Norfolk Southern 310 getting put back together
@WideWorldofTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Great catch, I love the Dunkirk area, been around awhile
Yet another great video I had missed. Broken knuckle! Excellent coverage Mike.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Great catch. First time seeing a broken knuckle. Sounds like good ideal to take the knuckle off the last car and use that as a replacement for the broken knuckle.
Even though I’m about a year late in watching this, it still interesting to see it. Thanks for the opportunity to watch the train people in action.
@WideWorldofTrains
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think with a train this long, slack can do the damage. Remember each car has 6” slack so it’s like a big slinky. Puts a huge strain on couplers.
That intro tho! You in the NS cab had me cryin!
Nice catch on the emergency stop. 9731s K5LA sounds outstanding. Those are the K5LAs I've grown on to. Idk why but they sound awesome.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree
Have you ever given a train crew a ride to the broken knuckle and back?
Look like that knuckle was all bright and shiny except for that black spot about three fourths of the way down imperfection when it was cast caused the break, just my opinion keep them trains coming.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
That could be, good point
At 14 minutes with the passengers window down, we lost sound. Thanks for the close-ups with the broken knuckle at car #173. 😁👌👍😷 Completely agree with lack of DPU(s), one in the middle, one trailing at rear.😎🤠
It’s a shame that many Railroad management people can watch this video and not understand the problem behind the busted knuckles. (I don’t know, maybe the trains aren’t meant to be over 2.5 to 3 miles long going up and down grades and curves). Anyways, still another great video from the WWoT!
@keithmoore5306
2 жыл бұрын
when annual bonuses are based of profits common sense be damned!!!
@cdavid8139
2 жыл бұрын
Railroad operations managers absolutely understand this problem. They are also struggling to maintain profitability during times when the very logistical core of North America is changing. Truckers are more competitive than ever. Coal traffic is dwindling. Oil traffic is fragile. You have many many problems to understand and busted knuckles is but one of them.
@newmanattack
2 жыл бұрын
@@cdavid8139 attempting to justify this is absolute nonsense.
@cdavid8139
2 жыл бұрын
@@newmanattack Attempt to justify what? I've only been in this industry approaching 4 decades so educate me. What specific part of my statement was 'absolute nonsense'
@TheNemosdaddy
2 жыл бұрын
You can't say this has anything to do with train length. Multi levels wear knuckles worse than any other car type. I've seen them paper thin on the pulling faces before when inspecting them. It also appears to have a casting defect that that probably weakened it over time. Also this is a common scenario, especially with multi levels, that an air hose seperation puts enough forces to break a knuckle somewhere. It'll find any weak areas.
Great video WWoT, great catch!!!!
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
I hate to be having to go to work at that time and have a train blocked you from hours
Great catch. Interesting to see what happens when a knuckle breaks. Also enjoyed seeing that UP heritage unit. Maybe I'll get lucky and see it in Arkansas some day.
I am just amazed at the beauty of this region along route 5 and north of Chautauqua, Westfield, Dunkirk. Has to have some of the largest oldest maple trees on the east coast. Simply enchanting area.
@WideWorldofTrains
3 жыл бұрын
Yes can you imagine it 200 years ago? Back then there were more northern white pines and less hardwoods, but still a lot of Maples
@jstoli996c4s
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, very scenic area, especially along Lake Erie 🌅
Thanx for the great video. That's a long was for the conductor to walk to find the break. At least it was daylight hours not at nite.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
He got a ride from somebody this time
Sorry I missed the premiere but I’m gonna watch it right now, good job btw wide world of Trains
@NCandVArailfanner
2 жыл бұрын
It's okay
Awesome video, the best part of the video is always DPU alright.
very nice catch on that broken knuckle............also the heritage mopac loco...........those EMD'S are a beautiful looking locomotive...........thanks, good job....WWT
@WideWorldofTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thanks appreciate it
And the cabooses, great shots!
@WideWorldofTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
When something goes wrong, it notifies the, engine and the crew. Then they notify the repair crew. And there Boss 😊
Cool Love that Heritage EMD!
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian I'm glad you enjoyed it
Hey man, really enjoy this channel. Been a sub for a couple years now
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dan! Thanks Im glad you area sub thanks for the comments
Well when you run PSR Land Barges you can close a town with a broken knuckle. NS should face major major fines when they run a train that is way too long and they close a town.
I love your videos, thanks 👍🏽
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Nice share my dear, supper big like Well come!!
1:01 middle road blocked 6:08 lincoln avenue blocked 6:22 franklin avenue blocked 7:28 bucknor street not a railroad crossing 7:39 lord street blocked 9:14 hoyt street blocked 9:36 nevins street not blocked but if the auto rack on both sides 11:00 towsend street blocked 12:18 roberts road blocked 14:50 werle road blocked
@WideWorldofTrains
6 ай бұрын
Cool 😎 🆒️ thanks for your comments
2:52 I believe that is when the Knuckle broke
That answers my question about scanners then! Thanks! Another great video. Nige
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
You can buy scanners online, as well as get the frequencies that way. They are different for every area
@lordflasheart6801
2 жыл бұрын
@@WideWorldofTrains thank you.
Cool video. Wow do I ever remember having days like that. Like you said, it’s a pretty long train. It wouldn’t hurt to run a DPU. thanks for the video. 👍👍👍❤️
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
It sure is, did you work on the railroad Don?
@dmorgan28
2 жыл бұрын
@@WideWorldofTrains I worked for Southern Pacific and the Northwestern Pacific in California and then for the Central Kansas Railway and the Kansas Southwestern in Kansas as an engineer.
Some of those old covered hoppers are wonderfully rusty. You got a good look at them there when they stopped right in front of you! 😏
It's crazy how a train had blocked about 8 railroad crossings.
They still haven't learnt their lesson NS. Cool Heritage unit
Wow they really run these things way longer than they used to.
Excellent Footage I'm impressed LI NY Neat!!!
The way the cars are bouncing on rail bed . Surprised more knuckles aren’t damaged .
Any of you railfans on location offered help driving engineers back and forth ? Thats actually rule number one being the railfan on site : always instantly offer help if needed and if you can !
Awesome video!!!!
Cool man this is nice keep up the good work
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
Sorry for missing the premiere but video sounds really interesting, and nice catch on the Gennessee and Wyoming salt hoppers. And as far as 310 getting DPUs if they were smart they'd run them as rear end power like what they do on the pocahontas division coal trains
@WideWorldofTrains
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I think End DPUs would work good in this situation
Excellent catch 👍
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Who here likes trains?
@kareemharris6173
3 жыл бұрын
Mee
@derricktherailfan
3 жыл бұрын
Me
My old man did 30 years with Norfork. Hes said a country is only as strong as it railroad.
@WideWorldofTrains
6 ай бұрын
Cool 😎 🆒️
Back when I was an over the road truck driver, KLLM was a strictly trucking company. Their addition of containers is new (at least to me).
@WideWorldofTrains
3 жыл бұрын
These containers are new here started to see them last week
@MeigsCountyRR
3 жыл бұрын
@@WideWorldofTrains I read where it has to go at least 600 miles to be economical for the trucking company. If it goes cross-country, that's a great savings because of not having to use a truck driver until it gets to the destination.
@keithmoore5306
2 жыл бұрын
trust me regular semi trailers are going to start dying out soon they can use containers the same way and no shifting cargo between modes of transport!!!
@marcmo7138
2 жыл бұрын
I can remember when KLLM was called KLM before they were sued by KLM Airlines.
Great video very educational on how the train works
@WideWorldofTrains
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Train brake going into emergency is just like the air brakes on a semi truck when you have an air leak.
Excellent trains compilation!!
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed the video and liked it
Can't wait to see a emergency stop in a Permiere! :D
I like your videos, keep making em
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Thrilling!
Neat catch. I think DPU's will help alleviate this issue as well. Thx!!
Great video. I really love the camera quality on your videos. Hope you visit Folkston and The RTA and the FEC mainline soon.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I would like to visit lots of places, I really would like to go to Florida in the winter time and film down there, maybe on the way I could stop at folkston
And the car came apart from the other car. Ok now I understand 😊
That's kool that you caught the Missouri Pacific... I grew up along the Missouri Pacific formerly known as the Chicago Eastern in Illinois Chicago branch near Thornton Junction in South Holland Illinois tons of coal trains back in the seventies
Excellent vid, thanks for posting. Do you like your Uniden Bearcat BC125AT scanner ?
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do
That's pretty impressive braking distance from about 40 mph, where the two parts of the train stopped. 173rd car? Heavens. Think what a strain on the couplings that must be.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and especially that the power is over 2 mi away and where the knuckle broke there were several curves
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
I think a pusher DPU would help out a lot in this situation on this particular train and line
Nice catch of the MoPac heritage unit!
Very cool 😎
very nice video!
What a catch! That's like pulling in the record bass off the lake.
@WideWorldofTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome, thanks!
Just gotta love Trip Optimizer. Ripped the train in half.
@Talldarkhandsom
7 күн бұрын
LEADER is better found on EMD products Trip Optimizer was designed by someone that doesn't know dck about railroading
I hear a lot of complaints on how long trains are, yet everyone wants their Amazon next day delivery and plumbing in their homes. I don't support longer trains but people are just as much to blame. Toxic chemicals have to be transported somewhere. We do deserve to know about what goes through the towns but it would be a massive eye opener
@lifewithduchenne3030
Жыл бұрын
Today was an eye opener for me seeing those Amazon cars
@lifewithduchenne3030
Жыл бұрын
That is how a train is supposed to emergency stop