Seems like there's a few points that need to be addressed here. I'm a Catholic catechist so I'll try to add some more context and texture made to the statements of Bishop Barron. We are saved by the grace of God through faith. Full stop. To say that anyone outside of the Catholic church CAN be saved is a recognition of the supreme power of Our Lord. If your theological system forbids God from saving anyone, then you have created a system of rules that stands above God. We have learned from the scriptures that God is entirely free and has imparted that freedom to us as well. We are told by Saint Paul that we will encounter Gentiles that are 'a torah unto themselves' which means that there will be non-Jewish (and at that time non-Christian) people who have come to the fullness of faith in God, despite that fact that the fullness of revelation of the nature of God is hidden from them. In other words, they live a moral life (baring fruit) despite the fact that they do not have knowledge of the person of Jesus Christ. As we are told time and time again, if you love God, you keep is commandments. Thus these pagans who keep the Torah, without knowledge of it, love God in some way. We must continue to grow and foster our faith, such that we begin to bare fruit in the world. This is a slightly different thing that saved by faith and works. This is one of the key differences between old Christian beliefs and protestant beliefs. Catholicism and Orthodoxy do not require some kind of intellectual ascent to be saved; its not about thinking about God really really hard, its about being transformed in relationship with Him. The second point: the Eucharist is dangerous to people who receive it in a state of rejection of God. We are told in 1 Cor 10-11 "So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord". What does it mean to be guilty against the Body and Blood of Our Lord? It means you are guilty of putting the nails into his hands and feet. You are guilty of murder. Therefore, you must make a public confession of sins and seek to be aligned fully with Christ prior to the reception of the Eucharist. If you have not repented of your sins, you are eating your own condemnation. This requirement stems from the revelation of death by holiness, requirements to confess your sins, and the overwhelming theme of God feeding his people in an act of communion. The Eucharist is a very complicated doctrine so I would absolutely recommend doing a ton of reading on it. It pretty much begins with the Tree of Life itself and spans the either Bible. I would recommend reading Stephen Ray's Crossing the Tiber or Scott Hahn's Supper of the Lamb or if you like podcasts The Lord of Spirits talks about this in their episode "Thanksgiving". Just 2 years ago I was an atheist and this rabbit hole landed me firmly in the Catholic Church after a long long journey of discernment. Well anyway I didn't think this post would be so long. Very happy to respond if I wasn't particularly clear or if you still have questions. You could also DM me, not sure if this site has that, and we could talk more if you want.

@tjseaney_

4 күн бұрын

The is extremely helpful thanks.

@paineintheass233

2 күн бұрын

I am embarrassed to say that I have been a Catholic all my life. and while I had a general understand of these doctrines, I just learned a lot.

A blind man's sense of reality is limited, but not necessarily wrong. Half truth is not about the truth but about the ability of the individual to understand and accept truth.

@bcalvert321

5 күн бұрын

That is why I am not a Catholic. The Catholic church has lis running all through it

I’m chiming in as requested. I came back to the Catholic Church in my 40s. I was Protestant in high school and early 20s. If anyone is curious, it’s not something we can prove through words. If you are curious just try praying a rosary. Do it every morning for one week. You will realize very quickly that Jesus exists. You don’t have to believe you will KNOW. Every experience u have after doing it will be your own that’s why we can’t explain it. Then you on your own will want to take part in worship on Sunday and want the Eucharist to be with with him every day and every week.

@tjseaney_

4 күн бұрын

I will try this thank you.

I can tell you as a former Protestant now Roman Catholic, I knew I was missing something before. I had Jesus but I didn’t have His Church.

Read the Catechism, that will answer all your questions

I’m Protestant but seriously looking at Catholicism. Reading the church fathers and seeing the failure of sola scripture and sola fiede has led me to the truth. I believe there are some truths in Protestantism but unfortunately have rejected most of the apostolic teachings of the church. “ The church is the pillar of truth “ 1 Timothy 3:15. This was written when there was only one, Catholic apostolic church- the Catholic Church.

@rhwinner

3 күн бұрын

The Holy Spirit will lead you home. Godspeed.

@c.Ichthys

3 күн бұрын

Amen ❤

@thomasw4506

2 күн бұрын

Every church is catholic (lowercase “c”) though the problem is the universal church has divisions. That includes the Catholic Church which asserts it is the “one true church”. No disrespect against the Catholic Church.

You can’t participate in the Eucharist if you haven’t gone through the sacraments and BELIEVE in the body and blood of Christ , as he said in deference or protecting the non-Catholic from condemnation. You condemn yourself if you take it not believing and not in a state of Grace. Hope this helps.

Study the early CHURCH fathers letters. They were taught by the Apostles.

@thomasw4506

2 күн бұрын

Any specific letters? How do you know they were taught by the apostles?

@philipmarchalquizar7741

2 күн бұрын

@@thomasw4506 just like your name St Thomas. Every Apostles preach and teach. Look and search where all Apostles buried until now. If your church or your denominations have no traced from the Apostolic fathers That is not a True church.

A few weeks ago I became Catholic after 20 years of Protestantism. The Eucharist played a mayor role in my decision. Realpresence was the common understanding for the first 1500 years of Christendom and even by Martin Luther. I can attend any wonderful Protestant church that displays the gifts of the Spirit, cares for the poor but if there is no real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, there cannot be the fullness if truth. That's how I see it. Blessings!

As a Protestant I dwelled in the first couple feet of the pool of Christianity. I did not realize the depth of Christianity until I became Catholic. The fullness and beauty of Christianity was revealed to me in the Catholic Church. I pray all who read this go on a journey to dive into the depth and fullness of the Church that Christ left us as we wait for His return. If you like Bishop Barron, consider reading the Word on Fire Bible Volume I Gospels. The gospels are presented with a running commentary from 2000 years of the greatest Saints who have ever read the good news.

Truth is a light, and there are certainly degrees of truth just as there are degrees of illumination. In low light I can percieve vague forms and shapes, in brighter light additional detail, and in full illumination I can discern all the subtle shades and nuances of form, color, pattern, and so forth. So in a similar (not identical) way different religious traditions possess truth in differing degrees and portions. As a Catholic, I believe the Church possesses, as Bishop Barron describes, "the Fullness of Truth," such that I would imagine that an agnostic might percieve that it is beautiful for a person to lay down his life for another, while a Christian would have the fuller awareness that God himself has done just that for us. Both of these are true, but one is a fuller, more encompassing truth than the other. Similarly, a Protestant might be part of a tradition that practices the Sacrament of Baptism in a way that Catholics would recognize as valid, and this is truth, and a participation in the sacramental economy of God. But if that individual were to become Catholic and accept all the Sacraments of the Church, of which there are seven, that would bring this person into a full participation in the truth of the Sacraments, such as partaking of the Eucharist, as Bishop Barron described.

“Saved”? One and done? Doesn’t work that way. He who perseveres to the end shall be saved. At least according to Saint Paul.

I recently converted to Catholicism from being a confirmed Lutheran. During the Eucharist, it is perfectly acceptable to go forward and receive a blessing from the Priest conducting mass. However, Catholics believe that Jesus Christ is present during the Eucharist and also believe the Eucharist is a Sacrament. We believe that Jesus is present in the host just as he was for the last supper.

@c.Ichthys

3 күн бұрын

Your words give a wrong impression. Catholics believe in transubstantiation: the Bread and Wine become the true Flesh and Blood of Christ. The Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist: Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. Amen

@paineintheass233

2 күн бұрын

@@c.Ichthys I don't think he is talking at all about transubstantiation. I think that he is saying that even if you are not in a state of grace, you can approach the priest at Communion for a blessing, but not partake. I think. I could be wrong.

@thomasw4506

2 күн бұрын

Yea….most Lutherans believe in the same thing. They just don’t formally call it “transubstantiation”. But I know some (not all) Lutherans do not acknowledge the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

The REAL Presence of Christ in the Euch!arist is the source and Summit of the Catholic Faith. To say Amen to this is for the Bride to say I DO to The Bride Groom. You have to be prepared for a Catholic marriage, and you have to be prepared to receive Christ in the Eucharist. Protestants who believe their communion is a symbol is the equivalent to how the Catholics see marriage outside of the Faith as a mere civil union and not a Sacrament. Living a Sacramental lifestyle is living in the fullness of Jesus, Who is in the center of our lives. Catholics have a closer relationship to the real Jesus. Who did not lie when He said, "You must eat my flesh and drink My Blood to have Life within you." At every Mass, we renew our wedding vows to Chrost and receive the grace to continue is this Valley of tears. This is why it can not be a symbol for us. And for those who Protestants who lack the Authority and THE consecrated priestly hands to bring Jesus in their bread and grape juxe service, They have a LACK OF GRACE BUT STILL A PORTION OF GRACE because there is power in the Name of Jesus. The Protestants have the "Happy Mea"l, but Catholics enjoy the "steak and potatoes."

Protestants believe in Christ who is truth himself, but catholics also believe in the gifts He left us through the sacraments, tradition, seat of Peter and much more, thus the fullness of truth. Kind regards

@bcalvert321

5 күн бұрын

The gifts He left us come through the Holy Spirit.

@GardenMinistry.

5 күн бұрын

​​​@@bcalvert321 The Holy Spirit is also present in the Catholic Church. The Holy Spirit came to the Apostles on the Day of Pentecost, the birthday of the church, and has remained with the church ever since, and Hades will not prevail against it. The Holy Spirit is present in all of the Sacraments, starting from baptism, to confirmation, all the way up to the Anointing of the Sick.

@NP-vk8de

4 күн бұрын

“Fullness of truth” you jest my friend. Kind regards.

@bcalvert321

4 күн бұрын

@@GardenMinistry. Pentecost was not the birth of your church. It was the birth of Jesus's Church. Your church is man-made. Peter knew it was Jesus Church. In his speech on Pentecost, he called it Jesus's church. He never called it His church and he never called it the Catholic church. There was no church in Rome and no pope. So it is pretty flimsy to say it had anything to do with the Catholic Church. Your church denies speaking in tongues, healing, prophecy, and miracles. That they cannot be done by laypeople. That it has to be for special people. But Pentecost destroys that. Hundreds of men and women received the Holy Spirit and the gifts.

@davido3026

4 күн бұрын

Th Holy Spirit dwells in the Catholic Church since 33AD

the fullness of Christ is the Eucharist itself. Christ says "unless you eat my body and drink my blood, there is no life in you". The sacraments are God's graces and the tools he gives us, so that as we accept them we accept Him fully. It's always God moving first and then we participate in His grace by accepting those gifts. Our faith is a gift from God and that faith is enriched along the way as we fully recognize these gifts of grace- His roadmap for us.

As to salvation for non-believers- this would be considered possible but extremely extra-ordinary, but all things are possible for God. As scripture says, God is love and all love comes from God. Love is not an emotion, it is willing the Good for another, for their sake. Therefore if a person acts in true love they are acting in God through participation with the Holy Spirit. They may not intellectually understand that, but their actions transcend any intellectual assent. Intellectual assent is exactly the wrong idea of what faith is. What we live out is what we truly put our faith in. Again, it's not a recipe for ordinary salvation. But through God's infinite grace it is possible.

I really like Bishop Barron. He explains things in a way that I can understand them.

C.S. Lewis states in Mere Christianity that objective truth is found in math and in music. Like a right mathematical equation or a right musical note are both undeniably true. He points out that one can be closer to the truth in a math problem, by being closer to the correct answer than someone else. I imagine that this is what Bishop Barron is trying to point to. Some Christian denominations are closer to the truth. Blessings

I am a cradle Catholic. I recently read the book 'Stunned by Scripture' by Dr. John Bergsma. He tells of his journey as an evangelical pastor and his journey to the fullness of Catholicism. In his book he specifies the questions he had as a pastor and how learning what the Catholic Church teaches - in the Bible, helped him embrace the Truth. Not a big book, but a very good read.

@tjseaney_

5 күн бұрын

I’ll check it out.

@GardenMinistry.

4 күн бұрын

Similar to the book "Rome Sweet Home" Scott Hahn a former protestant pastor had his own questions that he could only find answers to in the Catholic Church. Starting with, "What is the pillar of truth?" Which all his theology colleagues said was scripture, but it turns out was the Church per 1 Timothy 3:15. This got the ball rolling for other discoveries which he writes about in his book. It was a tough journey for him, with a lot of opposition, even a near divorce from his wife who wanted him to stay a pastor, needless to say his findings truly convicted him, eventually changed his wife's heart, and inspired millions of people to convert. He's also an all round great guy, very humble and very centered in his theology studies. Love Scott Hahn!

Understand this,as Catholic you may be saved on the day or you may not be saved on the day and non of us can knowingly rest assured but by mercy work out our salvation in fear & trembling knowing the Lord is so working with us towards that glorious day. The great gift of purgatory allows for misdeeds to be cleansed should that indeed be needed.

@markelmore66

5 күн бұрын

1 John 5:13. Let that encourage you and give you hope!

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

5 күн бұрын

@@markelmore66 Catholics reject that.Specifically Bishop Barron. I cited that to him on one of his videos a few years ago and he simply said "I dont believe that". Imagine a prominent religious person saying he doesnt believe GOD"S TESTIMONY ...v.9 in that sequence.So incredibly sad

@maximeganter6385

4 күн бұрын

​@@TimSpangler-rd6vs No we don't. What we reject is faith alone, and perpetual salvation, because we believe in grace alone. A salvation freely given, you can accept it or not through justification with faith which is manifested and supported by work. Jacques 2:18 (KJV): : "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works." Grace is always freely offered, never acquired. It changes you not only in the afterlife but also right now. You can be touched by grace even if you don't know Christ, through your conscience (which is the residence of the Holly Spirit) and hope, but it would always be more difficult than just fully believing.

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

2 күн бұрын

@@maximeganter6385 No such thing as temporary eternal life

@maximeganter6385

Күн бұрын

@@TimSpangler-rd6vs Exactly

Also to note, that only Catholics who are free of mortal sin and whose hearts are ready to receive Jesus are permitted to partake of the Eucharist. In addition to what Bishop Barron says here, we also think of Paul writing to the Corinthians, "Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself." So the Church can't allow anyone, including Catholics who are not in union with the Church, to receive the Eucharist. ❤

@davidbraun6209

6 күн бұрын

And, in addition to the requirement not to be in a "state of mortal sin," we are normally required to fast for one hour before receiving the Eucharist. (In case of illness, the Church may dispense a grievously ill person from that requirement.)

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

5 күн бұрын

@@davidbraun6209 man made rules upon man made rules upon man made rules. But yet you soak it up as if it's Gospel truth!

@mmouseav8r402

5 күн бұрын

@@TimSpangler-rd6vs If Catholicism isn’t for you, then you have the freedom to not partake. The sacraments is what Christ left to us, they’re all in scripture.

@davidbraun6209

5 күн бұрын

@@TimSpangler-rd6vs does your Bible have Matthew 16: 19 in it? If it does, perhaps you should not be so dismissive of rules you so facilely deride as "man-made" when the man making them was the successor to St. Peter.

@Highlyfavored2

5 күн бұрын

@@TimSpangler-rd6vs they are truly deceived and need prayer

I am a Catholic and responding to your question about truth: When you say something is 100% or 0% true- that may apply to any given statement but every person accepts or rejects multiple claims to truth; as Catholics, we rejoice in every thing that is true, because we know Christ is the source of that truth; even Satanists believe God exists and the devil exists - both true, but they go off the rails from there; every religion has more or less acceptance of truths on the spectrum from Satanism on one end and Catholicism on the other; Catholicism is true because Jesus Christ started it and promised to guide it into all truth; Catholics put our faith in this promise of Christ and thus are saved by his grace won for us on the cross thru this faith; trusting in a God who is love means we must have our faith be a faith that loves God and neighbor; hope this helps

@tjseaney_

5 күн бұрын

Thank you. This was very helpful.

Catholic guy who practices philosophy here. Many people think something is either true or false. They are right when considering, say, premises that make up an argument. However, consider this: is it more accurate (or truthful) to say that a priest is unmarried or to say that he has taken a vow of celibacy? Or, consider this: is it more accurate (or truthful) to say that the earth is not the center of the universe or to say that the sun is the center of our solar system? Obviously, the latter in both cases. Remember, truth is being insofar as it is known. A sentence that contains more truth contains more knowledge of reality. The more true a sentence is, the more it reveals reality. The above explanation is used by Fr. Ambrose Little in his explanation of St. Thomas Aquinas' fourth way of proving God's existence (the argument from degrees of being). This video can be found on KZread. It is by the Thomistic Institute. With this explained, you may understand what Bishop Robert Barron means when he states Catholicism has "the fullness of truth." A Catholic would say that, while most Protestant sects get most things right about Christianity, Catholicism gets it *all* right; thus, it contains more truth since it reveals more about reality. Hope this helps!

We are all saved through God's Mercy. Even a good Catholic does not know and abides by all the truth of the Church. The Church is the safest way to Salvation, the Communion and Community (and the Body of Christ), in which we can receive God's grace continuously and reliably. And the Church and the Eucharist are also the way to be faithful, to say thank you (that is what Eucharist means), to love God back and thus have a personal relationship with God. This will be as close to "knowing I will be saved" as I can get. And I want that. I want to be true to my words and will. Anybody who does not share in the full faith and truth will have to give an account to God for the reasons. And sometimes it will be more and sometimes less their fault. And God's forgiveness will be according to that fault and regret. Thus: Also when not in full communion with the Church (and that means without Confession, too) we have a hope to be saved. Just less and less...

One must know Catholic teaching to know if they are worthy to take the Eucharist. The apostle Paul said that is why some of you are sick because you are taking the Eucharist in an unclean state

Beautiful explanation. My understanding of being saved is that Jesus has certified and branded a person with his "stamp"-if you will-as having lived the truths he proclaims in the gospels. Suppose a person lives a truly virtuous life. That person by definition is saved. They may not know it, but they are saved. I know of many people who claim-after proclaiming their fealty to Jesus- they've been saved, yet they continue to indulge in sinful behavior. That doesn't make sense. If they were truly saved they wouldn't sin.

@kings-Rex

6 күн бұрын

Everyone struggles with sin, that you're saved isn't a guarantee that you wont sin. Its what happens after. Its a long drawn battle for most of us till death. I believe the topic of predestination is more nuanced. Salvation is a gift we were given by God through His Son. Now you can choose to accept it or not. You can choose to accept it and lose it by being careless or not persevering till the end

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

5 күн бұрын

@@kings-Rex We all sin. Some of us are forgiven

Paragraph 846 of the Catcechism of the Catholic Church teaches, there is no salvation outside of Christ & His church. However paragraph 847 affirms what Bishop Barron brought up. It says, "Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church..." can be saved. As an example a person may grow up in a Protestant culture and only hear negative teaching about the Catholics worshiping Mary, preventing him from becoming Catholic. He might not ever hear anything to change his mind, through no fault of his own.. His conscience may tell him, she seems pretty important in the Gospel, so he won't speak bad about her, following his conscience. He follows the 10 commandments and the Sermon on the mount. He Loves the Lord etc. He doesn't know the fullness of the faith... He MAY be saved, as long as he doesn't hear the full truth and sinfully reject it, due to pride, desire to be right, etc.

@acsberean4092

6 күн бұрын

"IF you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9 NIV - emphasis mine) "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is BORN AGAIN he cannot see the kingdom of God." Jesus said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be BORN AGAIN.' The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is BORN of the Spirit." (John 3:3-8 - emphasis mine) "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead"… "For you have been BORN AGAIN, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God." (1 Peter 1:3,23 - emphasis mine) "For BY GRACE you have been saved THROUGH faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, NOT a result of WORKS, so that no one may boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9 - emphasis mine) "For the GRACE of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age" (Titus 2:11-12 - emphasis mine)

@JB91484

6 күн бұрын

@@acsberean4092 Consider Jesus' command to "pick up your cross and follow me" (Matthew 16:24). Faith is the decision and commitment to follow Jesus, symbolized by the act of picking up the cross. Works are the actual carrying of the cross as you walk. Just as you cannot follow Jesus without both picking up and carrying the cross, you cannot live out a true Christian life without both faith and works. Faith without action is incomplete, just as picking up the cross without carrying it doesn’t fulfill Jesus’ command.

@acsberean4092

6 күн бұрын

@@JB91484 "…know that a person is not JUSTIFIED (Gk: dikaioó = to show and declare to be righteous) by the WORKS ('ergon') of the law, but by FAITH (Gk: 'pistis' = trust and confidence) in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith ('pistis') in Christ Jesus that we may be JUSTIFIED ( 'dikaioó') by FAITH ('pistis') in Christ and NOT by the WORKS '(ergon') of the law (Gk: 'nomos' = divine laws) because by the WORKS (ergon) of the LAW ('nomos') NO one will be JUSTIFIED (dikaioó)." (Galatians 2:16 - emphasis mine) There are no multiple stages to salvation. The Bible both infers and says explicitly that salvation is by grace (plus nothing = alone), through the faith of Jesus and no one else (i.e., alone) (James 2:24; also John 3:36; Galatians 2:16, 3:1-29; 2 Corinthians 5:20; Romans 3:22-24,28,4:1-25,5:1; Philippians 3:9; Ephesians 2:8-9) A person is saved and justified by Jesus at the moment they repent of their sins and receive Him as their Lord and Savior. Good works do not play any part in salvation or justification. A person will be judged for either accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior or rejecting Him, which is the only 'work' that gets them into Heaven. There is no in-between (See John 3; Romans 11:6; Ephesians 2:9; 2 Timothy 1:9; Titus 3:5). Jesus spoke about those who will say they 'believed' in Him but showed no proof of it in their actions and deeds because they were false prophets and NEVER a good tree producing the good works of salvation (Matthew 25:31-46, 7:16-23). A person works out their salvation by the proof of naturally producing good fruit (Philippians 2:12 NIV). Jesus said only a good tree can produce good fruit, and not the other way around (Matthew 7:18). Good works accompany salvation (See Hebrews 6:9-12). The Born-Again Christian is challenged to walk in a manner worthy of their calling because they were created as new creatures FOR good works and not because OF good works and is how they please God in their daily behavior (John 15:5; 17:3; Ephesians 2:10, 4-6; 1 Thessalonians 4:1). "We remember before our God and Father your work produced by faith, your labor prompted by love, and your endurance inspired by hope in our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Thessalonians 1:3 NIV) "We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him." (1 John 5:18 ESV) "for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." (Hebrews 4:10 NIV) Good works are what prove a person has placed their trusting-faith in Jesus by repenting of their sins and asking Him to become their Lord and Savior

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

5 күн бұрын

@@JB91484 picking up our cross doesnt save us. HIS cross did

@JB91484

5 күн бұрын

@@TimSpangler-rd6vs yes, I received that salvation at baptism. But, no matter how much I pray, my cross doesn't carry itself.

Here's my interpretation as a Catholic....keep in mind that Bishop Barron is speaking in a specific context and some of it is theology (philosophical opinion) and some of it is doctrine (straight up law of the faith).... Bishop Barron's approach is to recognize, as most of the sensible Catholics out there, that many monotheistic religions proclaim the Truth is some aspect but not all of them. Bishop's response is speaking into the idea that we agree with certain aspects of their theology but we find them incomplete. The Eucharist is the most relevant example of the discrepancy. Hence, the statement is not to be interpreted as Protestant proclaim x% of the Truth but to say that they get some things correctly and others not. Therefore, their theology is incomplete. By "Fullness of the Truth" Bishop Barron is appealing to the claim that the Catholic faith and Traditional is the direct outcome of Jesus' teachings and the evolution of God's new covenant. It's a way to say our Doctrines represent the faith God wants humanity to uphold. Nevertheless, the attitude it's not supposed to be "my way or the highway". The latter comes across in Bishop's later statement about salvation. While the Catholic faith believes to be the true Church of Jesus Christ we have never claimed people need to be belong to our Church for salvation because that's a decision that only God can make in his full grace. You will encounter Catholics fighting about salvation statements but that more theology than doctrine. The doctrine is clear, we believe God in his Mercy can save whoever he wants no matter which religion they followed. That said, we were called to evangelize and if we truly believe we have the "Good News" then by all means we should be sharing it and inviting people to join us but not force them or demand. To me, the Catholic Church is the most complete and logical. We have the Eucharist and the sacraments. Regardless of all the debates out there...no other religious organization offers so many tools for a soul to find peace and connect with God once more. Can someone speak to God directly? Absolutely. Can someone be holy without needing to be Christian? Possible. But what a gift it is to have explicit and direct access to commune with the Trinity every day through the sacraments and the Eucharist. John Chapter 6...is extremely difficult to deny.

@tjseaney_

5 күн бұрын

Very helpful. Thank for this. I preached on John 6 a while ago. It certainly is interesting to hear Jesus say, “unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you.” I need to examine that more.

As the joke is told, St. Peter asks every visitor to Heaven to keep quiet as they pass the Catholic quarters. To make them believe that they're the only ones in Heaven.

@shanesolar3924

3 күн бұрын

Everyone in heaven is Catholic, there’s no division in the kingdom

Of course, you can use the expression "fullness of truth"". Bishop Barron believes that Catholic church offers the deepest and most fulfilling experience and expression of Christ. According to him, other Chritain denominations can be still valid and fulfilling, but do not have this full richness. Fullness of truth should be very simple to understand in this context.

Regarding the Eucharist, The Catholic Church does not teach that one must participate in the Eucharist to be saved. The Eucharist is the Real Presence of Jesus, and we Catholics are participating in that Real Presence to become closer to God.

What is " Saved"? Not going to Hell, and just dying? Getting a seat at the " Great Banquet"? I think very few get through that narrow road. The Fullness of the Catholic Faith, is essential, for that journey.

In response the the question of “fullness of truth” and the narrator saying something is either true or not, not merely 85%. Bishop Barron is not saying an individual truth help by a Protestant is only maybe 85% true. What Bishop Barron means by “fullness of truth” is all the many revealed truths of Christ’s teachings.

@davido3026

4 күн бұрын

1 Timothy 3:15!

I want to attempt to help answer your first question in regards to the "fullness of truth" (knowing that an online comment doesnt go too far haha). If you know my name and that my favorite color is light blue then you know 100% truth about me with what you know. If you also know that my favorite food is lasagna and my favorite hobby is biking then you also know 100% truth about me but on a deeper, more full level. There is no lie in either stance. One is simply "fuller". If you had 3/4th a great, delicious chocolate chip cookie there would be nothing wrong with the cookie, but if I had the whole cookie, or the rest of the cookie, and wanted you to experience the fulness of it its not saying your cookie was awfully bad but that you are missing out on the whole thing. Im not one for commenting on videos because its hard to have genuine discourse online but I hope this helped a little as you seemed genuine with you forst question. Its not an "85% truth" thing, but more of what I eluded to above. God bless!

"Fullness of Truth" seems rather easy to understand. Are we omniscient that we know all things in the world just as God knows it? No, right? Does that mean that we're completely a wrong creature as well because we do not have that fullness that God has? No, either. Certainly God does not seem to think that we're completely wrong that we're beyond salvation. Else, He wouldn't have sent His only Son for us. Just as the ancients got a lot of things correct via insight, but got things many wrong as well, that doesn't mean they were all just so completely wrong in and of themselves. They were right in certain things, and there is truth to that, but it's just not the "Fullness of Truth", either by really putting in evil ideas to their thinking, a mistake in thinking, or just lack of information because they're missing Divine Revelation. We make a comparison likewise of the Old Testament to the New Testament. Were the prophets, and the entirety of Israel wrong just because they don't have Jesus, who is the fullness of Truth, with them? No, right? It gets actually deeper if you define what wrong is, which is perhaps a subset of bad/evil, and the Church Fathers, particularly Augustine, defines Evil as a privation of Good. A lack or absence of the Good. If wrong is a subset of Evil, that would mean that it does not stand on it's own without the Truth. Meaning there's always a partial Truth to things that are wrong. Some things are wrong because it tends to terminate into Evil, but otherwise, there is to a certain extent Truth to it. Well anyway, it gets very theological, once you approach the meaning of Good, Evil, Wrong, Truth, etc. What do those words mean? The Catholic Church's answer is that Good has substantial existence, but Evil is the privation of this substantial existence, but Evil in of itself does not have substantial existence. In "can" only exist wherever there is the Good.

Just a little side note... The dove stained glass you have as your thumb nail is so similar to the famous one in St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, I actually assumed you were Catholic. God bless you ✝️🙏🏼❤️🕊️

I want to become a Catholic and I am serious about it, so I approached the local priest a few weeks ago. Although he was friendly and polite he was also clearly skeptical and I got an overall unwelcoming feeling. He also mentioned confirmation most likely won't happen until 2026!! I am a new Christian and I did not expect this. Easter 2025 sure, but this? In terms of evangelical work, spreading the gospel, Catholics can learn something from the protestants.

@user-bq4gv4ld8x

7 күн бұрын

Find a different priest who will be welcoming with open arms some of our priest can learn from our Protestant brethren god bless you on your journey 🙏🏻🙌🏻

@ronaldmonette2223

6 күн бұрын

Note: The crew is human but the ship is divine!

@mckennarussell4510

6 күн бұрын

I was confirmed into the Catholic Church at Easter. Honestly, probably just an off-day for him. Definitely recommend reaching out to the RCIA director at the parish, it’s usually a deacon, they’ll be way more helpful! As a former Protestant, I thought the same way as you about evangelizing, etc when I first started going to our parish. However, the church is the way it is on purpose. The longer you are Catholic, the more you realize how fake Protestant churches can be and most of their evangelizing is actually unhelpful in the long run.

@nicolamustard7232

6 күн бұрын

​@@user-bq4gv4ld8x I'm so sorry that that was your first experience! As mentioned, talk to the RCIA director, or if there is a deacon at the parish who can better help you. Just know that you are welcome with open arms! ❤️🕊️✝️

@godfreydebouillon8807

6 күн бұрын

My experience seems to be going better. The priest was really friendly and seemed to be excited that we are wanting to join.

If you don’t profess the Catholic faith and don’t believe the apostles/nicene creed you can’t accept the Eucharist because in some denomination it is just a memorial but for Catholics it is the culmination and reaffirmation of the new covenant; “whoever eats my body and drinks my blood will have life,” meaning a full communion with Jesus. True that a person is damning itself if that person hasn’t received the sacrament of confession and reconciliation, when a consecrated host enters his body. A body must be in a state of grace to receive the host cause Jesus is pure and our body is the temple other Holy Spirit.

Salvation is a free gift from god. For god, nothing is impossible. I think about ancient explorers navigating using only the stars and arriving to their destination. That must have taken great courage and conviction. We now have google maps and can arrive confidently to our destination. In both cases, no lies are present. Gods truth was in the stars and on my iPhone.

A Protestant asking a Catholic bishop if he should become Catholic? Gee, I wonder what the answer will be.

There are simply some beliefs that are closer or further from the Truth. Protestants are much closer to that Truth than Muslims, and Muslims are closer than atheists. That’s what he means. Practical assurance of salvation is not accepted the way that it is in Protestant traditions. And yes, I said traditions, because that’s what they are.

I'm a cradle Catholic and still would be considered a Catholic by most people I know. However do NOT interpret that statement as a claim to being a GOOD Catholic or super well studied Catholic. ...I've always (and expect will always) have had trouble with the idea that only Catholics are permitted to take communion at a Catholic mass. I do not understand how we could possibly say no to anyone that wished to "TASTE AND SEE" the gift of the eucharist. When I hear arguments that people may not understand or appreciate what they are partaking in, as a right for refusal, I think of the first apostles of Christ. Did they have any clue what "this is my body and this is my blood, eat and drink of it meant?

The key is that they "may" be saved. You may also survive a dive off the Golden Gate Bridge, but you shouldn't bet your life on it. Bishop Baron is giving a 'I respect your lack of belief answer, but it is a bit of a dodge. It's a shutdownn further discussion answer, where he states his hard line position. In otherwords, he will not interfere with your freewill. The Bishop could also have said, I'm respecting your free will decision to end up in Hell. If you think about it, given the theology surrounding the Eucharist, that's exactly what he's saying. Which pretty much moots out your whole v half truth concern. This is why the Bishop admonished his critics to not go off on him for his statement. In prior interviews, when asked directly, he stated that the vast majority of humanity is going to be dammed, including Catholics.

Newtonian mechanics is true within a limited frame of reference, but doesn't apply to objects approaching the speed of light. In like manner, sincere Greek philosophers, seeking the Same Logos in nature, discovered things still true in the natural reality, though limited and only analogously true in the context of Revelation. To say, if it's not entirely true, then it's false, is to insist that the truth be small enough to fit entirely in the frame of our own heads

85% meaning the belief in the holy trinity and that Christ alone is lord.

The Blessed Eucharist is TRULY the Body Blood Soul and Divinity., of Jesus Christ,the Faithful Catholic belief You need to read the Gospels and references to the Old Testament. Jesus Christ is the Awaited Messiah of the Jews.. One cannot really understand the Eucharist unless you are Baptized into Christ and belong to His Church

How can you follow something you don't know?

Bishop Barron is so luke warm.

Read Vatican II

@tjseaney_

4 күн бұрын

I need to.

Catholic Church do not judge bad the Christ mother. They respect human people.

By Fullness of Truth, Bishop Barron refers to all the things that the Church professes are true. But not everybody believes ALL the things that the Church teaches. Hence, they do not have the Fullness of Truth. For example, many of our Protestant brothers in Christ do not accept the perpetual Virginity of our Blessed Mother Mary, Purgatory, or the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Therefore, they do not possess the Fullness of Truth.

Tried, even did an RCIA.....failed though

Most protestants believe in sola scriptura, Bible only. They abandon or water down the historic teachings of the church, including the graces that Christ gave us and living the Christian life. Most protestants only have two sacraments and drink little cups of grape juice, perhaps once a month, as a symbol only. They also reject a universal teaching authority which has been present through the ages, starting with the first apostles in Acts 15 where they made doctrine decisions after Christ was resurrected and ascended. By ignoring these truths and only relying on scripture, protestants have a partial truth. Non-Christians have much less of the truth because they don’t have faith in Christ, but he may be working in them, although they don’t acknowledge or understand it. Only God knows who will be saved so we should avoid being judgmental.

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

5 күн бұрын

Name ONE thing we must believe for salvation which is not in the BIble

@Highlyfavored2

5 күн бұрын

@@TimSpangler-rd6vs The Catholic church has many things you must do to be "Saved" unfortunately and also Purgatory is not in the Bible, as you know it was a way to get "MONEY " to pray for "DEAD" people shame on them

@jceezee1084

4 күн бұрын

I am a Catholic. This viewpoint has always fascinated me. Can you please clarify for me what particular "graces that Christ gave us" protestants abandon or water-down? You can have reverence for church teaching but you're really drawing a long bow when you write stuff like this. I am talking about things that Christ directly and personally taught or instructed, not what the church later interpreted or formulated? It's fine to claim that you need the Church to have salvation, but it's not fine to make ridiculous claims. My view point is simple: I believe that realistically some protestants will be saved, and some catholics will be saved, and some orthodox will be saved. Not everybody. Why? Because being born into a particular faith and going through the motions is not what Jesus had in mind. There are protestants who truly live as Christ would want them to, just like there are Catholics. Then again, there are Catholics who - on the face of it - abide by every single church teaching yet are just awful, awful people. Being a Catholic isn't going to be sufficient and likewise, being a protestant, is not going to be an obstacle.

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

2 күн бұрын

@@jceezee1084 what is the basis for that?

I want to be saved but the whole point ain't to be saved but to respond to Jesus' unique love for us., that´s why a non catholic or even an atheist can be saved. Partaken the Body and Blood of Christ can be a way to eternal salvation or condenation if received with the proper aim. So I strtongly not recomend to aproch the Eucharist without a good confession.

Nope. No more. I'm out. I've had enough. Jesus did say: "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." but I now understand that the Roman Catholic church is *not* the church he was referring to because hell has not only prevailed against it, but rules it from the top down.

@tjseaney_

5 күн бұрын

Whoa whoa. Calm down. Stick around a little bit longer.

@jceezee1084

5 күн бұрын

@@tjseaney_ What for? What's going to improve? Absolute insanity and depravity prevails.

@davido3026

4 күн бұрын

So you make the Lord Jesus a liar!!! That is "false withnesseth " against The Lord himself, who said " I will be with you everyday"

@jceezee1084

4 күн бұрын

@@davido3026 LOL. No, I didn't. What I said was that the Catholic church is not *the* church Jesus was referencing. And no amount of fanciful thinking is going to make it so.

@tjseaney_

4 күн бұрын

@@jceezee1084 Jesus entered the insanity and depravity to save us.

The scripture is the truth of jesus the fullness of the Catholic church is the sacraments and the legacy of pentacost.

@bcalvert321

5 күн бұрын

The sacraments do not save your soul. Your making Jesus your Lord and Savior does save your soul and then you must live your life for Him. Mary cannot save you, no piece of wafer can save you and no wine can save you. The Catholic church cannot save you, only when you give your whole life to Jesus are you saved.

@roman727

5 күн бұрын

@@bcalvert321 nice script. FYI Catholics know we are saved by the grace of Jesus. But what good is a gift if I don't use it. His gifts are also his teachings. If I commune with his mother I learn of her son (god) Jesus told me to confess my sins, Jesus told me to eat his flesh and drink his blood which occurs in church where I worship him. Being true to my wife is in accordance with scripture (that captures the sacraments).....being Catholic is following apostolic tradition. Luther and Calvin were Catholic....we good here bruh

@bcalvert321

5 күн бұрын

@@roman727 Nice script but I find very few Catholics know the scriptures and don't believe many because of what they have to say. Being true to your wife has nothing to do with the sacraments. God told the Jews thousands of years ago to be true to wife when He put in Stone not to commit adultery. They did not need any sacrament to do this. It was written in stone. He said to take and eat the Bread because this is my body. To drink the wine because it is His blood. But He never said anything about it saving marriages and or it healing the sick. We do this to remember the sacrifice He made for us. We can heal people because we have the Holy Spirit in us. We can so the same miracles all of the Apostles did because He sent the Holy Spirit to us on Pentecost.

@roman727

5 күн бұрын

@@bcalvert321 there are bad Catholics and bad Protestants what's your point. I said marriage because we treat marriage as a sacrament (I was just listing laymen sacraments). None of what you said contradicts Catholicism.

@bcalvert321

5 күн бұрын

@@roman727 So do most protestants. It does if you say they do not commit mortal sins. Happen all the time.

I would really love to have a conversation with Bishop Robert Barron regarding this I would really enjoy having a dialogue - debate with him regarding statements that are made

Sorry the Pope is really a deal breaker for me.

@iggyantioch

21 сағат бұрын

Ok that's understandable. What's the biggest issue Respectfully.

By grace you are saved, through faith, it is the gift of God; Ephesians 2: 8-9 The Catholic church dies not teach Biblical principals, they teach the pope is inerrent, which is not true, the Bible is the Word of God , not the Pope, and regarding the "communion" Yes, Jesus said "Do this in remembrance of me" He did not say it was just for certain Religions:

@davido3026

4 күн бұрын

You are grossly mistaken! Who told you the pope is inerrant? He is a man, weak!!

No thanks l will put my faith in Jesus and leave the idol worship and praying to dead people to you

@tjseaney_

2 күн бұрын

What does “putting my faith in Jesus” mean to you? Honest question.

@johnpodolski3341

2 күн бұрын

@@tjseaney_ by trusting only him to intercede for us not so called saints and Mary who died and l don’t believe they were resurrected like Jesus was and are in heaven l thought only god can be here there and everywhere at once so how can the so called saints and Mary intercedes for us when they are dead and not risen and if you believe that they can also be here there and everywhere then you sure Y are misguided and in Satan grip and believe his lies

My response to bishop Barron !!!! Why you should preach the gospel. God created a perfect world Mankind rejected God broke the relationship and became sinful !!; God's Response !!! God came down in human form ( Jesus ) He died for our sins and rose again so those who choose to accept his free gift of grace and accept Jesus as lord and saviour and repent of their sins are saved !!! We are saved by grace through faith ( for good works ) How ? We are saved by grace through faith We are filled with the holy spirit The spirit renews the mind so our heart wants to please god .We do good works out of love for god in response to his love and grace .The simplicity of a wonderful gospel.God bless !!!

It's violent history is a red flag, it's not a religion I'd ever return to

Wacky stuff for wacky people 🤪 🤪🤪!!!!

@timothyburke1113

2 күн бұрын

If you think it's so wacky why are you wasting your time reading it. If you can't make a non vindictive intelligent comment better not to comment at all.

@colinlavery625

2 күн бұрын

​@timothyburke1113 for the simple reason people need to "call out" this delusional, nonsense, dogma.

@colinlavery625

2 күн бұрын

​@timothyburke1113 A large amount of scientific evidence has emerged in this century (DNA code as an example), that strongly suggests that there is some kind of INTELLIGENCE at work behind the universe. Call this GOD if you like (but this word has been much abused throughout history). It is wacky, man-made dogmas that I oppose. Best wishes Colin Lavery

I am Catholic and i dont believe you have to be Catholic to be saved, i believe regardless of religion we're all brothers and sisters living a life on the path of salvation, Jesus said Love Everyone and Be Not Afraid, Amen.

@kings-Rex

6 күн бұрын

Well you have to be Catholic to be saved, thats always been Catholic teaching. Christ instituted His Church and the Sacraments are through which the graces obtained from Christ for our salvation lies. Now some people actually die without being Catholics yet are saved, thank God for God's graces supplied to them in an extraordinary way. Its just like Baptism of desire or even of Blood. Those are extraordinary ways Christ grants His graces for salvation while the ordinary way would be through the sacraments of the Church. So its entirely possible that a non-catholic can live his whole life doing good and attain Heaven. We do not know how the Holy Ghost works to bring such person into the Faith. P.S; everyone in Heaven is Catholic

@TimSpangler-rd6vs

5 күн бұрын

@@kings-Rex like many other man made Catholic beliefs...that one is also wrong as can be

@Highlyfavored2

5 күн бұрын

@@kings-Rex How Prideful to think only "Catholics can be saved" how stupid and mean , who are you to say this? are you God?

@jceezee1084

4 күн бұрын

@@kings-Rex Did Jesus say that? That you have to belong to the Roman Catholic church to be saved? I *am* a Catholic and this viewpoint just makes my head spin.

Why introduce 20 centuries of man's errors into your theology? Read your Bible, instead.

I’m a Protestant who loves Jesus. I’ve learned more about the truth of Jesus through the many Protestant churches I went to over the years, Lutheran, Nazarene, Calvary Chapel, now my Independent Baptist Church, I’ve come to a deeper and richer understanding of the Gospel of Grace and Truth. I went to one Catholic Service back in 1974, it wasn’t for me, it was too ritualistic, rigid, just something off about that whole one Sunday Service. That I don’t want to go back. Then I started learning more and more about the Catholic Church over the years and I can honestly say I’m glad I won’t become a Catholic. I’m perfectly fine with the Church I’m in now. Thanks but no thanks, But hey, may God Bless you guys.

@mpkropf5062

5 күн бұрын

There’s a richness in the Liturgical service and much more Holy than any Protestant church! They don’t have the sacraments and are unable to keep the Eucharist. There way of communion is blasphemy pretending it’s a symbol which will never be found in scripture!

@tjseaney_

5 күн бұрын

Sounds eerily similar to my journey. I’m still open to Catholicism though.

This man is a bishop from the new religion promulgated by Vatican 2. I would not consider him a valid priest or bishop based off the new rite or consecrations. Find out more by reading “work of human hands” by father Anthony Cekada

The Bishop believes he is a God😅

@nicolamustard7232

5 күн бұрын

Uhhhh, that's a pretty random comment. I assure you he doesn't ❤

@timothyburke1113

2 күн бұрын

No he doesn't! "Thou shalt not bare false witness!" He is a good Bishop and a good and honest man!