If I'm being completely honest, the only two somewhat decent things about Caterham were their drivers and (sometimes) their livery. I mean, a team principal who gave up on his team midway through 2014 speaks volumes

@donbrashsux

2 жыл бұрын

He was hopeless

I remember trying to watched F1 again in early 2010 after couple of years of hiatus and my mind couldn't comperhend there were 2 Lotuses on the grid back then lol

@skyfish8781

2 жыл бұрын

2 teams 4 cars! What a mess

@my_4_brain_cells

2 жыл бұрын

I think that was 2011

@subhamde8412

2 жыл бұрын

Basically what happened that Renault were still in 2010...however after the Crashgate, Renault was forced to leave the sport and so came in the Lotus... Also the original Lotus F1 team which had the legend Colin Chapman as their team principal was sold to a Japanese company back in the 1991 and from then it was owned by a Malaysian Company that made replica Lotus 7 kit cars under the name Catherham and thus the name came in 2011 and took full takeover in 2012

@palashbhaumik42069

2 жыл бұрын

@@subhamde8412My head hurts even more now

@Ramtamtama

2 жыл бұрын

both using Renault engines

What always shocked me from Caterham is how they landed big name sponsors such as Airbus, Bombardier, GE, etc., not the kind of obscure companies backmarker teams are usually sponsored by; and how they folded despite the backing of these large companies.

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed quite strange. Tony Fernandes owns air Asia so maybe that could explain the airplane connection

@MeNoGud

2 жыл бұрын

Air Asia were in big trouble last year as an Airbus corruption probe implicated that one of Tony's sports team received about $50mil in sponsorship in exchange for purchase of Airbus planes. They were cleared of any charges though. Tony as long since put the team behind him and never looked back but there are still some Caterham legacy lingering within the Airline. The Mirus Hawk passenger seats on Air Asia's A321 NEO planes are designed and built by ex-Caterham Composites engineers and the patents are still held by Composite Designs EU GmbH (aka Caterham Composites).

@JKB-

2 жыл бұрын

Oh well, since it was the CEO of Air Asia it’s pretty self explanatory they had aircraft manufacturers Airbus and Bombardier backing them: Since Airbus also owns Bombardier. And engine manufacturer GE would also probably be a solid choice.

@gbw4908

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf happened to this team

@tiadaid

2 жыл бұрын

@@JKB- Airbus didn't own Bombardier back then. Also, the team was mentioned in a UK investigation into bribery at Airbus. The UK authorities alleged that in exchange for sponsoring the team, he will buy Airbus jets for the airline.

Bruh - even the car knows the team is a joke, look at it laughing at 6:37

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I hoped someone would notice that

@Heyn_17

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

I recently bought Caterham merch from a Malaysian store that still sells old F1 stuff, feels weird owning merch from a team that no longer exists

@maxwellpeter5955

2 жыл бұрын

I still got the cap and nylon backpack, the cap's from air asia when they did a promo years ago

@janshen1222

2 жыл бұрын

Wait malaysian ada di sini?

@twoway6691

2 жыл бұрын

Wow can you tell me I am a Malaysian too.

@josesammut9396

2 жыл бұрын

WHAT SHOP IS THIS? ONLINE?

@matthewalexk

2 жыл бұрын

Dude where is this shop in Malaysia link us

The problem Caterham (Lotus from 2010-11) had, like the other teams that entered the sport in 2010, Virgin (latterly Marussia, then Manor), and HRT, had the financial rug pulled from under their feet before their cars even appeared. They went for their entries in F1 on the basis that the teams would have a budget cap, which the FIA was pushing for from 2010 onwards, however, the big teams refused to subscribe to it. The result was, while Manor ultimately emerged as the most successful of the 3, scoring 2 points finishes (P9 for Bianchi in Monaco 2014 and P10 for Wehrlein in Austria 2016) in their time in the sport, but realistically, they were never going to be able to survive long term

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

That’s so true. And sad at the same time!

@SiVlog1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@MadeByPerspective I believe that they were ahead of their time in a way, with a budget cap this year and the maximum budget for the cap getting smaller each year... If only they had come into the sport now, maybe they could have done a bit better, I'm just speculating as we'll never know, but what do you reckon?

@sentientarugula2884

2 жыл бұрын

@@SiVlog1989 I really, really wish that the FIA had enforced the current budget restrictions then, because we would have had Marussia, Caterham, HRT, and so many other teams thriving in competition and maybe even a full grid. Now we just have 10 teams, but with the new budget cap, I'm really looking forward to the inevitable 11th team. Probably going to be a Renault or Ferrari feeder team, most likely an Alpine one tbh. But yeah, we can't be upset over what didn't happen in the past, just hopeful for the future. And hey, there's always a possibility that another Caterham comes by and thrives in the coming years :D

@SiVlog1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@sentientarugula2884 I'm not necessarily sold on the number of teams on the grid, but quality of them. It was probably a byproduct of the budget cap being dropped, but when you have 18 cars ranging from the quickest to those who have a respectable deficit, to those who are seconds slower than even the 18th quickest car and have no hope of getting much higher than P19 was not so good in my view

@m3tactical393

2 жыл бұрын

HRT was owned by adrián campos who wanted to expand his race empire from F3, F2 and WTCC to F1.

I was involved with the team for just under 4 years, there were a lot of very hard working people in the team and everyone wanted good things for the team. They were going up against teams spending 5x their budget. Yes the cars were not great, they had to use a lot of older technology that was developed usually around 1 year prior. Tony was a great guy and really did give it 100%. All this talk of it being his play thing is just total BS. I think if TF had kept the team he might have pulled it through but the new owners, well, I cant say but we know how the story ended. Some of the guys in your photos now work at top teams and are highly regarded in 2021 so all this talk of them being sh&t is just that...

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate great insight there! I definitely miss Caterham on the grid, I quietly barracked for them if I’m honest. Maybe it was the green livery that I liked so much haha. The facilities definitely looked great and I liked the clear identity which the team represented. And from the interviews I have seen, Tony definitely seemed like he was good bloke and wanted the best for the team! Thanks for commenting 😀

@ventisette.

Жыл бұрын

So how were the results so bad? Was there just a poor working environment?

@auwz66

Жыл бұрын

@@ventisette. Money was a big factor, plus always behind the curve with components both in house and off the shelf. Their agreements with other teams to provide parts always meant they were running older spec. Caterham, HRT and Marussia were all basically failures by design by the FIA. They simply could never compete or progress. The staff worked hard, I can tell you some stories. People missing births of their children for example. A lot of the track side staff went onto join other teams who have since been very, very successful. HTH.

"This meant that there were two lotus teams on the grid, I don't understand how the FIA even allowed this?" Meanwhile Redbull: 👁️👄👁️

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

HAHA true though 😅😅

@simoneburini4036

2 жыл бұрын

Simple: the name of the team doesn't have to be the same as the constructor. You still had Lotus and Renault. In 2015, the Marussia team had basically already gone back to the Manor name, but the car was the same from the year before, so the name of the constructor was still Marussia.

@haryosoo

2 жыл бұрын

I think being the B team of a closely related constructor makes more sense than the case of Lotus and Caterham

@Ricky911_

2 жыл бұрын

I was gonna comment that too

@ITFNBiteBayKon

2 жыл бұрын

It's completely different. But thanks for informing the whole Internet you don't understand.

This is my favorite type of video - a dive into a moment of time in F1. No matter the topic at hand, the history of F1 never ceases to amaze me. Ever since Monza 2000 when I thought 'Senna, who's that, must be important when Schumi's crying - better research' I've loved learning about F1's vast history of bigger and smaller events and how it's played into the developement of the sport. Loved this video!

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it 🙂

Caterham a.k.a Lotus Racing The team that was Malaysian,later British owned team that failed miserably

The team so abysmal it got Bernie to show sympathy

I mean even though the Caterham/Lotus cars were not that fast the liveries were nice to look at. The Green was real nice especially the metallic green on the 2013 car

When they went bust and they crowdfunded to get money to at least make the end of the season, I thought it was worth a laugh, sent in a donation and got a thank you letter from the Administrator, a team badge and also official notice that I was a shareholder in the company (for legal purposes). To this day, it is amazing how many doors are open to me whenever I mention I used to be an F1 team shareholder

Let's be honest, all those now teams got screwed by Bernie after he said there would be a budget cap. That's also the most interesting pronunciation I've heard of Loterer, I'm not German so it might be right

@hugolouessard3914

2 жыл бұрын

How do you pronounce it then ? In german it's pronounced like he did in the video

@apophisRO

2 жыл бұрын

Not Bernie. The big teams in F1 didnt want the budget cap. Dont blame everything on Bernie. Heck, I dont even know why he receives so much hate.

I remember attending the GP in Montreal, I was in the stands at turns 8 and 9, and you could tell how slow they were just by looking at them compared to the others. Between turn 8 and 9, you could tell they understeered like crazy.

It still surprises me that the FIA and formula 1 allowed teams like HRT, Virgin/Manor and Team Lotus to join The fact that each team went into some form of bankruptcy and didn’t perform is a big stain on the modern record of F1

@TripleAlfafa

2 жыл бұрын

They weren't bad for the grid IMO. They occasionally snagged good talent that got overlooked by others and were the obvious place for paydrivers who just wanted to be in F1.

@charamia9402

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, they are a part of what's played into the history and developement of the sport. Not neccesarily an asset, but definately not a stain imo.

@jbaidley

2 жыл бұрын

The FIA let these teams down in a big way, tbh. They entered with promises that there would be new regulations to limit spending and then found themselves entering the sport with the same insane big spending that had gone before. It's tough enough to enter against the experience of existing teams but to do it on such vastly lower budgets was always going to be impossible.

@SteffenT1981

2 жыл бұрын

With the financial crisis of 2008, several teams of large auto companies suddenly realized how expensive F1 had become. Honda immediately stopped Super Aguri's activities and announced the Honda team's withdrawal at the end of the 2008 season. BMW and Toyota announced that they would stop after 2009. And IIRC even Renault and Mercedes thought about reducing their efforts. At this point in 2008, it therefore seemed likely that four of the existing teams would have disappeared by the end of 2009. The FIA ​​wanted to fill those gaps with new teams and Lotus, Virgin, HRT and USF1 were the best they could find with the promise of a budget cap. From the point of view of these new teams, the economic situation of the remaining large manufacturers unfortunately improved. Once again they wanted to spend insane amounts of money, and therefore used their influence to prevent the budget cap.

@richardmessenger9474

2 жыл бұрын

Why were they allowed to join....That's easy...they all gave Bernie a nice big bung...😋😋

I've been urban exploring in that factory 3 times or so, its so sad and destroyed.. :/

It didn't help that Caterham, HRT and Virgin/Manor/Marussia were lured in with the promise of a cost cap which was never implemented (let's hope 2022 isn't going to be a similar story).

It's honestly another Tony Fernandes vanity project. Around the same time, he also bought into Queen's Park Rangers and managed to coerce Malaysia Airlines to sponsor QPR (which thankfully got cancelled). This is why I felt that the only reason he got that Lotus name is because he wanted to shake some money from Proton, the Malaysian company that then owned Lotus.

The number 20 car was purchased by someone in Houston in 2015. We used to work security at the warehouse where he kept his car collection.

Fun fact...Karun Chandokh was told he would be given a seat at the team after 2010 but he would be given a test driver role and he never got the car to drive...he got only once in Hungary...and he still considers it as one of his greatest mistakes in his life

The livery they used on their first year was one of my Top 5 all time favorite F1 liveries, a huge shame that it didn't work out for them.

I still don't get how they were allowed to use 2014 cars in 2015

@donbrashsux

2 жыл бұрын

Because they were a hopeless team

But still I liked their livery

@Qwiks

2 жыл бұрын

That ^

“The guy was known to be the owner of Air Asia” *e- excuse me? Wtf-*

Only best thing about Caterham F1 was the dirty blown diffuser sound.

The only thing those guys got right was their livery

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

True

I find it kinda sad that the Caterham name was slapped on an absolute garbage F1 team. The Caterham Seven for example is a really nice little sport car and the company really got some bad marketing from the F1 team that was named after them.

playing f1 2010 having to decide your starter team 🥲

The funniest thing is that caterham F1 youtube channel still exists and in the desctiption it says "we're still a lean green racing machine"

One of my favorite looking cars back in 2010!

Informative and concise explanation, thanks mate!

My mind wasn't powerful enough to notice two lotus teams back then

They were a pretty cool and likable team and always had great liveries. It's a shame they weren't able to get anywhere. They were one of my favourite teams on the grid, I used to always pick Lotus/Caterham as my starting team in my F1 career modes lol.

We parked up outside the factory just last week. Really sad. Could be an amazing place.

I still can't believe this happened while I was actively watching F1, in retrospect it was wildly improbable and I was none the wiser considering I was a junior in high school for the 2012 season, which was the first full season of F1 I watched

@CheeseScout

2 жыл бұрын

When I was in middle school, Minardi was running...

love the videos mate!

Your videos are getting better my dude

Love the videos man 😁

Would love to hear some insight about what was going on inside the team from former mechanics

Every time I think of the new 2010 teams I wonder what could’ve been if they’d been allowed to use the optional budget cap and the increased design freedom that would’ve gone with it.

@MDE_never_dies

6 ай бұрын

If there's one thing F1 Management hates, it's new teams

@anthonymolina7416

23 күн бұрын

@@MDE_never_diesf1 needs more teams too many drivers in F2 waiting too long for a seat

@MDE_never_dies

23 күн бұрын

@@anthonymolina7416 Pretty much. Winning the F2 title these days is so pointless and is no guarantee of an F1.

I always had a soft spot for the 3 new teams from 2010 - 2016. I remember rooting for Lotus/Caterham catching up to Torro Rosso to the back of the midfield in 2012, but sadly it was never to happen. At least glad they gave some "old names" a second chance, like Kovalainen and Kobayashi.

@RadityaPramanaPutra2001

10 ай бұрын

Kamui Kobayashi is my hero on mid-class F1® driver. 🇯🇵

Caterham/Lotus cars had a good livery. F1 was different in the 2010-2014 era having cars that were off the pace and they were the cars that made up 22 or 24 cars

Great vid, really want to check out the factory some day

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

I really had hope for Caterham. I started watching F1 in 2013 and Caterham was the second team I supported. I hoped in 2014 things would change but when they missed the US and Brazilian Grand Prix, I was bracing for the worst.

Been waiting on this one keen as

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you liked it!

Caterham was way too small of a company for a sport like this unfortunately. they make absolutely incredible cars

I'm sorry, but the way he pronounced"Lotterer" made me fart my soul out

@hugolouessard3914

2 жыл бұрын

Hum... It's how it's pronounced. What bothers you ? He's german. How do you pronounce it ?

@Oranje_24

Жыл бұрын

​@@hugolouessard3914No He's from Australia. I'm from Germany

Back then, Malaysian car manufacturer, Proton was like a partner with Lotus. Lotus provided handling stuff to UK Proton models. Then you know what happened. But the partnership of Lotus with Proton ended in 2017, 3 years after Caterham's last race when Proton started partnering with Geely, a Chinese car manufacturer. I know this doesn't make any sense, but this seems to be tied together.

3:09 at least their car was happy :D

The problem is,that some millionaires think that if they buy an F1 team,they will become the new ferrari and win 10 championships,but after 2 years,they fail and give up.

I loved Catherham when I was younger, favourite team on the grid, Kovalainen my favourite driver

Giedo van der Garde... damn, you just brought back some flashbacks lol. He pushed that shitbox to great places, it's such a mega shame he never appeared in F1 again. Same goes to Robert Doornbos, but eventually it would be Verstappen who'd finally break through in 2016.

It was suppose to be 4 new teams in 2010? But u.s f1 pulled out?

I just looked up Caterham and saw this video XD Right on time.

We definitely could’ve had a longer video for this, caterham where such a disaster you probably could have got a half hour video essay done about them😂 (and for some reason it’s a subject that no other f1 youtuber wants to make a video on) do it for the continuity, tear into caterham, burn them with a full essay, nobody else seems willing to do it, what is there to lose, I’d love a proper deep dive in to just how bad it really was 👍

They may have not been the best but you have to agree they have the best blown diffuser

Hey I always thought Caterham's livery pretty sick

At least it was cool to have the two beautiful Lotus deliveries on the tracks.

Meh we had 2 teams named red bull for years, just one was in written in Italian, it’s not that strange really when you think about torro rosso, to the Italians both teams would have just been called torro rosso for like 10 years

2010-2012 they were a 'good new team' -2013 onwards went downhill

Caterham were around before the f1 team though? sounded like you were saying they just turned to sports cars after

So Lotterer raced for Caterham, released his contract and went off to Formula E. He is the best defensive driver in that series.

Kwalbers was the nail in the coffin

The 2014 Monaco GP was the killing blow for Caterham as Jules Bianchi finished 9th in that race. The 9th place gives 2 points, which were crucial for Marussia in the Constructors' championship, but for Caterham it was the death sentence as Sauber who also had 0 points, but had better and mor reliable car and by the Russian Grand Prix Sauber had 2 11th places compared to just one for Caterham. Also by that point Marussia was also struck by financial trouble (and also reeling from Bianchi's horrific crash at Suzuka which will claim his life nearly 9 months later) and if it wasn't for that 9th place in Monaco, the team wouldn't have even made it to the 2015 season as well. And speaking of Marussia - it was saved, but with no car to be built in time, they requested to use the 2014-spec car and power unit (as they couldn't afford to acquire the newer-spec units from Ferrari either). But to get this permission they needed the approval of the remaining 9 teams. And Force India was strongly against it (since if the team disappears the prize money Marussia earned would have been redistributed between the remaining teams). It was then decided to update the existing MR03 to 2015-spec, but with the 2014-spec Ferrari power unit

2:50 in fact Petrov finished P11 at the Brazilian GP. anyway, I really appreciate ur analysis.

JAAAAAAAAMES, STOP FILING!!!

I still have my Refuel Caterham pin from their late 14 crowdfunding campaign.

Love your content

Ehh those 3 new teams were screwed in 2010 onwards. The promised budget cap never came.

I loved those green cars as a kid^^

The Curse of Leafield struck again for Caterham. I live nearby, and the building is in such a bad state that it will probably be demolished soon and executive homes built on the site.

The 2012 and 2013 chassis were totally the worst of all..don't blame the motor for everything...

At least Caterham gave us Charles Lecrash 😵‍💫

Well at least HRT were worse

The reason for failure of Caterham F1, Marussia and HRT is because they were promised to have a limited budget cap being introduced in F1, to allow new teams to operate within that budget. That budget cap was never implemented and because these teams did not had the means to continue, they had to be folded. And to make life worse, they were imposed with higher engine costing due to the Hybrid era engine.

Can't wait for caterham fall of grace

I was there from start to finish and in 2014 all the staff got royally shafted, redudancy payments were nowhere near what they should have been. My wife worked there too and still to this very day has not had one penny from the debacle! They even told her in a letter that she would not be paid for the month that she had just worked and was also told in the very same letter that she was being made redundant for 'NO OTHER REASON' whatever that meant!!!...

Van de garde sounds so fun in english compared to dutch 😂

@MadeByPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

I am ceo of mispronunciation 😂

@Dylanf1fan

2 жыл бұрын

@@MadeByPerspective no you're not every single english person says it like that

and as we all know that pub went on to be frequented by 4bn people per year

I wouldn't say Caterham were the first team to crowd fund to keep running for a weekend. Minardi back in the day got sponsorships from local restaurants at one grand Prix to try and survive.

3:07 Just look how happy that car is

This is beyond bad, what you can’t mention the team owner? One of the richest guys ever!? Money had little to do with it. So many massive errors in this video I don’t have the time.

Same here, buddy! Always confused with this whole saga!

Is the team's factory in leafield still for sale???

@donbrashsux

2 жыл бұрын

No it’s just being left to rot and fall apart ..kind of like the Team really

@Oranje_24

Жыл бұрын

It's literally abandoned 😂 So you can Visit it

New channel yay

Malaysian has 2 Teams competed in F1 which is Team Lotus and Caterham

Stick to making super light weight and lesser power cars, Caterham

The way you say Andres name makes it sound like you have never watched racing before.

According to Wiki it's Proton who allowed the use of the Lotus name at first. They then withdrew permission

The 2013 Caterham livery was Benchmark 🔥

I don't know if I can link it here, there is a really good article on why Caterham F1 failed, I personally feel that all three F1 teams that entered F1 in 2010 should have used Dallera chassis for at least 3 years or so and then go in it alone....

6:34 Look at that smiling front :3

me driving Caterham in F1 2013 game: O_O

I thought this was about the legendary band The Fall 😂 Luckily I like F1 as well

I feel that this was/is the team with the most driver changes, in there short lifetime

If only this was possible to happen in f1 game's myteam, going bankrupt and ending the career early

Top Gear scenarios! > 7:33 < 😁

The 2013 caterham is one of the prettiest cars/liveries of thr decade i think

Fun fact: Andre Lotterer called the Caterham F1 car "the worst car he ever drove" on Instagram 😂