Thank you John !!!!

I once saw 11 reds in a row in roulette, even each spin was independent.....

@ProCraps

Ай бұрын

I’ve seen more than that. You have to ballsy enough to play into the streaks like that. But also honest enough to know that every spin is unique. It’s a mind f*ck

Great channel John! Look forward to all the discussions!

@ProCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

Not enough profit for 33 rolls. Seen you give better systems. Really enjoy your site.

@ProCraps

10 ай бұрын

It's all about the rhythm, right? The idea here wasn't to create a perfect strategy but to show (hopefully) what catching a run might look like.

Trend is your friend

Trends are real !!!!

@vdccdc1583

Жыл бұрын

Amen Ken Brown. My whole play is based off Trends but I do it completely different than what John displayed in his Video. It takes time to Learn what repeats.

Trends do happen what they will help you do is save money when someone points 7 out wait a few people to make each a few numbers because how many times have we seen many point 7 outs back to back

@ProCraps

Жыл бұрын

Happens all the time (I did 4 in a row in practice last night).

Fascinating topic. We've all seen tables where no one makes a Point, and five rolls seems like something. I've seen tables reliably deliver one 6 or 8 between 7's, but had to work on the Come-outs to be able to win bets on them. Love to work 2 wins eliminates exposure strategies, but where are the wins this session? A 4/10 player, or an Inside 4 player can tell you. My two favorite Inside plays follow opposite trends. One looks for a pressed number to win, the other looks to catch wins on two different numbers. Yet, if the table can't seem to deliver even those two Inside wins consistently, both get shelved. Trends? Short term anomalies in probability? Call them what you want, they happen. What are Power Pressers betting for? (they would love your rolls) High risk, low probability, but we've all seen single numbers rolled 5+ times. Here's one, what is the profit number you hit on ALL the sessions where you go up? $100? $200? $400? What happens after this point? Is that a trend? Reason I say trends are real, is because I bet the Don't Pass (yes I know the haters). Come-outs can be killers, and yet some sessions they don't seem to be a problem. Some tables reliably deliver parlay wins, while others need short burst negative progressions to get the one win. Streaks happen all the time, it's just most are not as obvious as a series of like results. All this is why Craps is the ultimate strategy game. Big toolbox, keen eye, endless fun.

@ProCraps

2 жыл бұрын

It's the greatest game because it's the hardest, and people like a challenge and a puzzle even if they can't solve it. There's other games out there with lower house edges that require zero effort to play. But we choose this one because we're foolish enough to think we can flip the advantage. We can't but we also cant run 4.4 40's and throw touchdowns but we sit on the couch and gripe like we can. I tell my coding students all the time "If it was easy, everyone would do it"

@4rah46

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProCraps Ha! So true, Craps is our version of sending men to Moon. Now the bringing them home safely part...

Patterns are NOT predictions or guarantees. We can use empirical data to see that trends do exist. The trick is riding the wave when statistical anomalies present. Show me 5 unique points made and I'm gonna take the DP max odds until 7. Show me quad 4/10 and I will take aggressive Lay bets. Our experience has shown us that it is highly unlikely for some patterns or trends to continue, And U gotta bet on something, Craps is not a spectator sport.

@ProCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Well stated!

John don’t forget you mention your doing the pass and don’t like Bac players. Bac players play the Chop which is NOT following what event happened last. P DP P. Is a chop. They play a DP here where you would play a P. …. also a PP. DPDP. PP is terrible twos and they play for that pattern to happen again so they play DP where you would be playing P… just clarifying what Bac players look at.

@ProCraps

Жыл бұрын

Bac has all sorts of advanced progressions and patterns as you know. I tend to work on the simpler strings there and here on the don't, keeping it as simple as possible, but yes, the chop is a nightmare.

This is all very simple to show. Pattern/trend/rhythm/whatever label you like, you are implying that the conditional probabilities are different than the unconditional ones. I applaud your ability to get 50 hours of content and counting out of this concept but I don’t understand why we keep coming back to it. Just pick an event you want to catch the “trend” on (it can literally be anything), and then use wincraps or similar to calculate the P/L of a strategy that waits to see a trend to capitalize on and compare it to one that doesn’t wait. For example, say you want to catch a pass line trend. Simulate one strategy that just plays the pass like only. Then simulate one that does nothing until a pass line (or 2 or 3 or whatever) wins and then bets the pass line. It’s important not to run them simultaneously. Of course the delayed strategy will do better because it won’t be at risk most of the time. Instead you need to compare the average ROI or some duration-neutral measure. If trends/rhythms/patterns or whatever can be capitalized on, the second strategy will have a better ROI, but of course they will be the same. I feel like you will admit in some words that there is no predictive power in the game but then you will talk through it in a way that contradicts this fact. You can’t capitalize on anything. You can choose to play a strategy that maximizes expectation when a trend happens, but that doesn’t change anything. Parlaying twice on a win does best when a 3-trend occurs. So slightly less than 1/8th of the time you 8x your money. But no amount of strategy-craft helps.

@ProCraps

2 жыл бұрын

I've actually done quite a bit of that in WinCraps. It's interesting. Volatile as you'd expect, but much more profitable when you do catch it. Where I actually spend most of my time in there tweaking is on the money management side of how much to parlay or press, and how quick to come down or get out. There's merit here if you don't just let it whizz by for 10,000 rolls and really look at sessions. I absolutely say almost every day that there's no predictive power at all. What you're doing by betting the way that I do here is just bet heavy after every win and regress way down after every loss. If you happen to catch a nice little streak there, those heavier bets become more meaningful than staying at base. That's it. Not predicting, but hopefully catching a run and getting more money into it if you can. It feels like predicting, but you're literally just working your bankroll smartly.

After the second 7 there were 6 4&10s and 5 9s ! You saw it and called it out but you didn't capitalize on it! Great job seeing it though

@ProCraps

2 жыл бұрын

I never switch up the strategy in trying to run in a video. In my mind it’s important to see strategies win or lose on their own merit. So if I change out and win (or lose) then the video becomes about me.

@waylonswaycraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProCraps oh ok I thought you were trying to catch a trend here ! My bad brother

@ProCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@waylonswaycraps it takes a small part of my soul every time …

@vdccdc1583

Жыл бұрын

The patterns or Trends you missed were huge IMHO. The Daily Double play which I teach is where a number repeats back to back. Trendsetter says that pattern will repeat itself within 4 attempts. So if I can get 16:1 or 31:1 odds once in 4 attempts I can look to gain $$$. It happened three times. I don’t care about losing 4 hops on 4 attempts. Say these attempts are $10/10. So $20 risk x4 is $80. I hit is once on 16:1 and it’s a wash. I’m looking to hit it sooner. On roll 16 it goes 8,8. So I play the two way 8 here and I lose. (-20) on roll 20 back to back 4’s and one is hard. Remember horns and 7’s invisible to me so h4,2,3,4 is BTB. So I bet the two way 4 and it loses to an 8. (-20). …roll 21 an 8 rolls. I play the BTB and lose to a 10. (-20) I’m down -60 now. On two diff DD daily double plays. Roll 24 a easy 4 rolls. I two way the 4 for $10/10 and hard 4 hits repeating the h4,4 earlier… this is a Net WIN of $300…now overall net is +$250. Roll 30 9,9 daily double. I two way the 9 and wash out to a 3 craps bc I bet $2 on 3/11 on these. Next roll another 9 and $160 win netting $150 and now I’m in profit $400….. next roll is a H8…. I have two more chances to catch my DD on my 8’play and bc it came H8 I bet the 3 way 8 here as opposed to two way easy 8 and hit the BTB H8 play and Win another $300 and now I’m up $700 on recognizing 3 DD plays on your session.

@vdccdc1583

Жыл бұрын

You had 3 ladders to the 7 which could of paused your DO side play to help preserve your BUyin. You then have options on these 3 events to 1) call OFF bets and DO NOTHING and let it pass 2) make $ by Laying the Backwall the VDC play Lay the point or lay against a lost # and 3) whack the Hop of 2-3 sevens Until it loses to a box #. On Roll 32 and 33. It goes 9,H8. Pause all do side play IMHO and just play the DD play on the 8 as well as the Ladder To the 7 play and you hit the Hard 8 Home run For $300. Then a 5 rolls So resume…. After the 5 comes 11 (my 5/11 rule. Happens once a session. $10 yo pays 150 netting $140 …. Then comes a 6. So (5,11,6.) so there is your setup for you to get the F*** off the DO side until this gets resolved… next roll 5-2 CINCO DOS ADIOS amigo. Preserve you BUyin should be ALL our FOCUS. The signs are there. You need to recognize them. Pause your play during these NEG events then resume if you escape the 7. I want you to look at the 6 John. What rolled after the first two sixes? Remember horns and 7 are invisible to this bet. A 9 followed the first six And 8 followed the 2nd six…. Here is the 9-8 setup. When you see this John it’s my Ladder to the 7 play. Been doing this play now 8 years at least. The next time you see a Six stop ALL DO SIDE PLAY… And again 1) do nothing and wait for it to get resolved. 2) lay the point of 8 and lay the lost # which is 10 or Lay backwall and 3) hop two sevens. Next roll after the third 6 was a 6-1 seven out on roll 12. The Signs are there, it’s whether you can see the forest thru the trees. Again Preserving your Buy in is key. Can’t tell you how many times I play with people and here same story. I got down early and could not take advantage of the hot shooter when it showed bc I was fighting from behind. All this stuff I teach has been apart of my 38 years of research of dice outcomes and table balance. Every 2-3 hr session certain events repeat themselves.

Can you win consistently if you don't quickly adapt your strat and bets to the recent table outcomes? Maybe, but you won't win big unless you can throw like the Dominator - you'd be lucky to break even, long term. If you're betting a hot number in a way that can lose if Red shows, you're partially betting on a hot number streak, but still betting that Red won't show up first. So that's only a good idea if Red has been very cold. Otherwise you're betting on the right number with the wrong bet. If a number or combo is truly hot (insert your own "hot" criteria here), I'll hop bet it and won't care what else is rolling before, after or all around it. The key to trend betting is spotting the NEXT hot combo early enough to catch the middle-end of the cluster - all while you're betting the current hottest numbers or combos. I can't do that without tracking the table, so the etched-in-stone casino wisdom of "independent rolls" goes right out the window. My theory is that all the rolls are indeed connected by something we barely understand - Time.

@blacklight4460

2 жыл бұрын

@@pjstrong6385 You seem to be in love with that lame comparison. I'd take bet that anytime. If granny were to catch a world record bass off of a boat dock, does that mean she can outfish Bill Dance?

Cannot listen to this person

@ProCraps

6 ай бұрын

You don't have to ;)