Carl Froch v George Groves | Extended Highlights | 23rd November 2013
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A chance to rewatch the controversial first meeting between Carl Froch and George Groves. The pair met at the Manchester Phoenix Arena in November 2013. The ending of the fight was mired in controversy and resulted in a rematch at Wembley Stadium one year later.
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A tictoc video of these two lads shaking hands brought me here. Great fight.
@Declangalea
3 жыл бұрын
Pull abart
@billyelliot4141
3 жыл бұрын
@John Michaels great scrap though. No regrets
@billyelliot4141
3 жыл бұрын
@@Declangalea lol
@foggydew9428
3 жыл бұрын
@@Declangalea Pull abaaaa
@lukeroberts430
2 жыл бұрын
Same ahahah we can all pull ahahahah
Looking back after 4 years, still a terrible decision
@jackgallagher1438
5 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Kay it still looks terrible after 5 years
@angelameynell7970
5 жыл бұрын
@@jackgallagher1438 Looks a better stoppage every time I watch it, The ref probably could have left it another 10 seconds hut George was done.
@damianlord7954
5 жыл бұрын
Yep still can't believe it was stopped while both fighters were still swinging.
@steveetienne
4 жыл бұрын
@@jackgallagher1438 make that 7
@Mmaspac
4 жыл бұрын
@Tyrone Williams i think he was hurt mate u watch the fight
Will never forget George proving me so wrong and then learning that in boxing, referees and judges come way before actual skill
Imagine groves with froch’s chin
@jameswilson1984
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine my Auntie with bollocks.
@chrisbuss3208
4 жыл бұрын
@@jameswilson1984 hahahaha 😂 that got me, so unexpected it's great
@davidvarey5072
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone with froch chin
@shahee6579
3 жыл бұрын
@@jameswilson1984 hmmm I'm imagining and I'm liking
@brianmorecombe2726
3 жыл бұрын
Froch had a tremendous chin,equal to Hagler imo.
I will never forget how shocked I was when Groves dropped Froch in that first round, he literally called the shot in the press conferences and even though everyone laughed at him he proved everyone wrong. Great fights, Groves definitely got robbed in this one though.
@wordsfrom1985
4 жыл бұрын
he didn't prove anyone wrong?? he claimed he was going to knock out Froch...he didn't !!! yeah it was a poor stoppage but he was on wobbly legs,one punch after that would of put him down...he gassed simple as that,he out boxed and out maneuvered froch until that round.... IMO
@tahjrose627
3 жыл бұрын
@@wordsfrom1985 shutup lol
@danlofc5134
3 жыл бұрын
@@wordsfrom1985 get out of froch arse you mong he proved everyone wrong as people were saying froch will ko him easy. Groves beat him up for 6 rounds
@simmonslee1
3 жыл бұрын
@@wordsfrom1985 he was out on the stool too many punches at the break The ref cheated the whole fight
@tonylawlor8833
3 жыл бұрын
Does not matter who did what and when. When the bell went or fight was stopped, Frotch won, that's what matters. Two great fighters.
Groves got robbed in this fight and it impacted him for his whole career since that point.
@SiLoMixMaster
6 жыл бұрын
Ulfric Stormcloak Since last May he's been a great run though after winning the world title, especially with this tournament and derailing the Eubank hype train
@kimiicemanmz
6 жыл бұрын
Ulfric Stormcloak nonsense! He got his rematch and Froch put him to sleep, the same would have happened in this fight if the ref wouldn't have stopped it. Groves did good, but he was gone in the 9th round. So if Froch knocked him out in the first fight it wouldn't have impacted his career!? Maybe he would have ended crippled. Btw Groves has quite a good career but he wasn't good enough to beat a champ of Frochs calibre.
@Dangerous2099
5 жыл бұрын
It was a poor stoppage so we'll never know if he could have beaten Froch in this fight. Groves didn't even go down and get a count. Howard Foster betted on a 9th round TKO for Froch. The fix was in.
@lucasm3879
5 жыл бұрын
Ulfric Stormcloak He wasn't robbed, he was stopped. A few seconds too early, yes, but he was still gone and wouldn't have recovered. Froch had weathered the storm and was getting stringer, Groves had emptied his tank and was weakening. Look at what Froch did to Jermain Taylor in the final seconds of the twelfth. There were still several rounds left - that's what Groves would have been up against for the rest of the fight.
@lucasm3879
5 жыл бұрын
@@Dangerous2099 You're deluded. Groves was stopped a few seconds early, he wasn't going to miraculously recover though, he was done, he always had poor stamina and a dodgy chin. Froch would keep going until he got him. Look at how he beat Jermain Taylor in the last seconds of the twelfth.
One of the worst stoppages Iv ever seen. Grove got punished for fighting through the onslaught from Froch. The replay doesn’t show clean shots landing even, this wasn’t Tyson style accuracy and power, far from it. Such a shame for Groves who did a magnificent job from start to finish AND kePt his cool with the bad decision at the end. True champion.
@Eat-MyGoal
Жыл бұрын
If that's one of the worst stoppages you've ever seen you're clearly a casual
@lornawoodings2605
Жыл бұрын
Groves was getting folded up there within 10secs or so, was starting to feel the pace and carl was starting to lay it on thick!! A few seconds premature but the result was written on the wall
@jimclawley9117
Жыл бұрын
@@Eat-MyGoal yep it robbed Froch of knocking him out completely. It was too early I agree but he was done
@scotthands4396
Жыл бұрын
I think the ref saw the left and right hand, groves sagging slightly, his head rolling and had to jump in before froch basically had a free shot to KO him, I have watched it back recently and it's not as bad a stoppage as I thought first time round, I think it was slightly early but it would of been the outcome in the end anyway 👍
@brianmorecombe2726
Жыл бұрын
Howard Foster still does refereeing and he will always be remembered for this bullshit stoppage.Why he never took a point off Froch for his persistent fouling is another reason why he`s a rubbish referee.
Groves’ movement and counter at 15:49 was an absolute beauty
The build up, the fight…. One of my favourite fights I’ve seen in 15 years of seriously watching boxing (I discount the 10 or so years when I was a child). I’ve never seen an underdog be so confident in his ability and back up his talk emphatically. Yes, the records show he lost the fight, but we all know he gave Froch absolute hell that night and the stoppage was highly controversial
@SM-tu5fz
2 жыл бұрын
This was wat got me into boxing
@ryanoflaherty9625
Жыл бұрын
He did give him he'll It's a fight! But he got stopped.. End of
@dmd7472
Жыл бұрын
Nicely written… agreed
One of the best Super Middleweight fights of all time
@bobshenix
3 жыл бұрын
No way... had the potential if the referee knew how to do his job correctly.
@Will-nc7lp
Жыл бұрын
Far from it…
@keithcampbell6806
Жыл бұрын
@Tyrone Williams Agreed.
@keithcampbell6806
Жыл бұрын
@@bobshenix Agreed
This fight just shows how class Groves was... and how tough Froch is... he was gone, but somehow fought back into it. Tough as teak.
‘Oh and he’s been nailed, right hand! George groves! Timing perfect!’ I’ll never forget watching this live
@GTLB302
Жыл бұрын
Any idea who the commentator is?
@GW_01
Жыл бұрын
@@GTLB302 Nick Halling.
Wow, watching this back what a disgrace Howard Foster was in this fight! Multiple hits after the break from Frotch and just before the stoppage he forearmed Groves for the third or fourth time in the fight. No points off and a dreadful stoppage. What a shame!
Nearly 8 years ago,will always be a classic.
Froch had a solid chin
@markt8895
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair froch as always said he could never be knocked out way before this
@therealslimgamey1
3 жыл бұрын
Yep that about it. He was big for his division weirdly big. Fit as well. I doubt he ever made the weight honestly.
@thomasgreen2039
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@radioactivepotato2068
3 жыл бұрын
@@therealslimgamey1 . 6'1" with a 76" reach. All tendon strength. Man was a wrecking ball.
@davidwhyte219
3 жыл бұрын
He was there at the time bet of Kessler not the hardest hitter so solid chin fought Taylor when he was showing up for cheque give me a break this fight shouldn't have got stopped
Should never have been stopped . Groves will beat Jr on Saturday
@KBMCFC-lw7mg
5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kayjayess
3 жыл бұрын
lol
@jamesw5596
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@CalebWelser13
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Jgf802
3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t age well
Every time I watch this fight back that decision gets worse by Howard foster.
Massive respect to Groves for being so respectful during the announcements.
I must have watched this 80 000 times and it never gets old.
Foster never even took a point off Froch after so many times fighting after call to break. Really not a good night of refereeing. It wasn’t just a poor stoppage. It was all night.
@ashhodson2063
3 жыл бұрын
Hatton lost against Mayweather due to same kinda shitty refereeing
@jamesanthony4946
2 жыл бұрын
@@ashhodson2063 Hatton lost to Mayweather due to not being half as good a boxer.
I'm a Froch fan but no way in this world was that a stoppage.
@CK-dd7eq
6 ай бұрын
Yes it was
Froch's chin was fucking phenomenal to get up from that knockdown, Groves was an enormous puncher
Robbed!
Watching this back its crazy how that was stopped!!
Two great fighters, proper boxing men, walk the walk, talked the talk, both hard as nails.
A true spectator fight The perfect blend of tactical boxing mixed with just enough violence to keep the casuals happy. This was a great match up from pre to post fight
@firstroundboxing7649
Жыл бұрын
This is why I hate "aaaaaaardcores" imagine admitting you'd rather watch tactical boxing than violence.. Might as well just stick to watching the amateurs.
That first round from Groves was fucking incredible
What a display of boxing from groves , in and out of range , amazingly accurate left hand lead , great timing with the right hand and reading froch when he winds up to land that big right , chopping left Hook that groves has at close quarters ,,,,what a fight
Isn't it nice not listening to froch on commentary
@BoudicaJ
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Baxter well Jim Watt so not really
@Dan-qk3mt
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he’s a complete prick
@ChadW98
4 жыл бұрын
@@BoudicaJ he was know as jim twatt in my house
@BoudicaJ
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChadW98 lol very apt 🙂🙂
@GW_01
3 жыл бұрын
@@BoudicaJ Jim Watt was class what you on aboot
Credit to Groves. I was there that night. It lead to the greatest domestic dust up at Wembley. But regarding this fight, it is hard to ignore the fact that Froch walked through EVERY punch Groves landed and got up from an epic right hand early doors. And Groves did win pretty much every round until that stage no question. But the minute Froch started landing I’m sorry but Groves was in trouble. The ref came in early but I think Froch’s brute strength would have ended it moments later regardless. Groves got hit plush on the chin 3 times before the stoppage and he huddled over and faced the floor. If it wasn’t over then, it was going to be anyway. The face of a fighter after a fight says everything. And given Groves was by far the better fighter until the end, they both looked pretty beat up. Shows how heavy handed Froch actually was
@bobshenix
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, Froch probably finishes the job in Round 9.... that can be true and the stoppage still considered a bloody awful one. Groves was clearly winning the fight on points, had yet to be seriously hurt or hit the canvas even once, was still capable of defending himself intelligently AND was still answering Froch with his own offense until the very moment Foster stopped the fight. I simply don't see ANY WAY WHATSOEVER that this stoppage can be justified given what the ref's job is supposed to be!!!
@jasonsmith7737
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more .. groves not heavy handed enough , and poor chin . It’s not all about talent . Groves all over froch and couldn’t finish him off . froch knows how to be a champion . And the rematch taught groves a lesson . What a finish from Carl in that one ☝️
@Fathervinyard
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonsmith7737 groves not heavy handed ? martin murray says groves hit harder than ggg lol
@jasonsmith7737
Жыл бұрын
@@Fathervinyard . I stand by it. Had plenty of chances to be world champion and blew them . Plus he had no chin. No good dominating fights and losing
@theonetypingthis7186
9 ай бұрын
I love froch, but hell no, groves was well on his way to winning this and he wasn't in trouble by fighting back and not even getting hit clean in the finishing sequence 😂 Horrible stoppage, always will be, froch was just the bigger star and they wanted to keep him marketable, so they looked for a very pathetic excuse to give him the match
Mad stoppage but it's quite surprising Groves let himself get in that position. Froch was wasting so many punches through lack of effort it was crazy!
Big respect to Sky for putting this channel together.......Soooo many incredible nights on Sky Boxing 🥊
Such a bullshit stoppage. Its great now in 2018 that groves is a champion. I wasn't a fan originally but he won me, and I suspect many over with his skills
@GuinessOriginal
4 жыл бұрын
tondefdom not me. Always got found out when he stepped up to the top level. Just another loud mouth who thought he was better than he actually was
@josephclelland6196
Жыл бұрын
@@GuinessOriginal groves is 1 of the best super middle wieghts rver
Jim watt wanted groves to win so bad 😂😂
@gibrilkamara4827
5 жыл бұрын
RICKITYCRICKET hilarious 😂
@tkenyon1988
4 жыл бұрын
@BestCanKeanRob2 He absolutely was you fucking melt!
@tkenyon1988
4 жыл бұрын
@BestCanKeanRob2 Mate you've had a nightmare here - Stick to WWE and Jim Ross
@thomaspollock9941
3 жыл бұрын
So did the whole country, froch is an arsehole
@JCGaming13
3 жыл бұрын
@@tkenyon1988 shout-out Jim Ross
After watching it again that stoppage was REALLY BAD. Groves dominated this fight from start to the stoppage and should have been given the chance to fight to the end. The ref pulled out a very premature stoppage. Yes Groves was blowing but why not allow him to at least try and shake it off.
@lachlanross1
4 жыл бұрын
Ye like he wasnt even knocked down
When sky boxing and boxing was great
If Carl didn't have a solid chin he'd be just another fighter but his chin got him through some real bad times and he came back to win
@bobshenix
3 жыл бұрын
Chin and stamina too.
That may be the worst stoppage I’ve ever seen.
Came from tiktok and this is already my favourite fight 🔥
Fantastic fighters and fight. An all time classic. And now they are friends its a brilliant thing to now.
23th? You mean 23rd? It seems like this channel has been rushed by Sky.
@JC-ko1bp
4 жыл бұрын
yeah that ruined the whole video for me.... i was watching an epic fight but couldn't enjoy it as the title said 23th and not 23rd.
@JC-ko1bp
4 жыл бұрын
its been changed now so others dont have to feel our pain....
Absolutely shocking stoppage.
Some fight,brilliant action packed battle
Still to this day the best fight ive ever seen
I love the Scottish commentator "booiful right hend!"
@Saw-Mc
4 жыл бұрын
He’s not Scottish
@brandonthesmudge7710
4 жыл бұрын
@@Saw-Mc umm yes he is?
@Saw-Mc
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon the smudge he’s Iranian
@brandonthesmudge7710
4 жыл бұрын
@@Saw-Mc are you out of your mind?
@brandonthesmudge7710
4 жыл бұрын
@@Saw-Mc I seriously hope your joking now cause otherwise you're just an idiot
when i watched this live i thought it was an awful decision to stop it. watching it back since... its even worse
7 years ago, my god.
“Oh and he’s been nailed” such an iconic line in British boxing commentary 😂. Love it
Amazing fight
The more I watch it over the years I still can't believe it got stopped like that Carl froch got beat up every rd then the ref jumps in on George when Carl was desperate throwing his body on George like he had him badly hurt
Carl was more wobbly in round 1 than Geoge was in the 9th. Terrible stoppage.
even the ref got him in a headlock at the end.
Groves was robbed, showed Froch a thing or two for sure.
@BrotherPenny
4 жыл бұрын
sc00bydoo10, do you know what sparked out means?
@BrotherPenny
4 жыл бұрын
You’re a goon mate
@BrotherPenny
4 жыл бұрын
sc00bydoo10, yeah go to sleep mate, that’s what sparked out means
Howard 'Matchroom' Foster with the early stoppage, not for first or last time either
@spannerintheworks1190
3 жыл бұрын
I remember after watching this fight showing my friends Max Maxwell vs Tom Doran, another foster early stoppage.
That was a fantastic video
Foster was clearly on the Eddie Hearn payroll
@markusmccourtus1
5 жыл бұрын
Still is.
@jackthomson5047
4 жыл бұрын
Shut up 😂
@remwall478
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck Eddie as well
@darragh2994
3 жыл бұрын
Foster is Eddie Hearn a cousin
Maybe my favourite fight ever - the stoppage was a joke though. Groves trainer Booth left him in the run up to this yet Groves didn't pull out he went in with and had a brawl. Hats off to both men - for the record this referee was definitely paid off.
Awful job by the ref, totally robbed Groves of his chance at the title, no problem with the 2nd fight Carl won fair n square
This was one of the few times Jim Watt misread a fight, he was saying that Groves was relaxed when in fact he was burning up energy with his herky-jerky movements. Shane Mcguigan coached him to a different style later on
These camera angles are next level feels like I’m actually there 😂
I remember watching this fight with my colombian girlfriend at the time. Good fight. Carl froch one of the best euro fighters of this era.
Fantastic fight despite the controversial stoppage. 👏
Miss the Jim Watt commentary this was a great fight had everything including controversy… Sky can only dream of putting bouts like this on now Boxxer took over from matchroom 😩
After the first round when froch went back to the corner the first thing he says and you can clearly see his lips when he says this “HE Hurt Me”
@andrewcowgill1880
5 жыл бұрын
No shit. He was knocked down!
@elliotnffc5649
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Cowgill woahhh Iam sorry
@andrewcowgill1880
5 жыл бұрын
@@elliotnffc5649 so u should be. Glad u now c your error.
@elliotnffc5649
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Cowgill Christ I better watch out
@elliotnffc5649
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Cowgill oh my
I haven't seen this fight again since it happened, but watching it back now thinking about how great a fight it was. Not that it matters now, but Froch should have been docked at least 3 points in this fight. The fight was obviously stopped too early too. As Groves was still swinging punches during the stoppage. I think the docking of points to Froch might have had an adverse affect on him sometimes it gives the opponent more belief, and the docked fighter less hope. One thing I will say though is that Froch has a chin and a half on him. His fitness levels are insane too. Just a neutral fan.
One of the worst stoppages in British boxing history, add on to that it was for the World title, and it compounds the error.
Shame for Groves he didn't fight more like that in their second meeting.
Amazing fight, a terrible stoppage and really in the last few rounds either guy could have been knocked out. I think Groves was a few punches from being dropped but he could have got up so we’ll never know but second fight was definitive
@johnhall2281
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest robbery ever in a fight
Still can't believe it was stopped with both fighters swinging. Froch may still have won but Foster was definitely up to something there, you could see him wanting to jump in.
@chrisweber6090
5 жыл бұрын
Froch has a iffy career he had one guy go down in the 5th similar to this and perhaps loaded his gloves
2 great guys what a fight grooves style is amazing
2 great fighters 2 great men
It was during this fight whilst flat on his back that Carl the international superstar Froch started believing the earth was flat
Great fight. Couple of weeks later maidana beat Adrien broner... good times
Unbelievable stoppage
This fight got me back into boxing, the build up🤣
A good fight BUT... looking back, I think I lean with the ref. Defending yourself is either: blocking up or punching back. It’s as simple as that! Throwing “bomb squads” blindly is not defending yourself!
@russellr6089
4 жыл бұрын
Dylan Q groves was goner get knocked spark out if ref let fight go on
@thomaspollock9941
3 жыл бұрын
He was throwing punches back and trying to block. He got caught by 2 clean shots, terrible stoppage!! Why didnt he let him go down, froch went down so why didnt he stop froch
First fight I ever went to was unbelievable atmosphere, fight was quality
The ref must’ve been like oh sh*t when he realised how badly he messed up aha
Froch was getting beat up badly before that stoppage
Absolutely terrible stoppage. Groves hadn't even gone down once.
Never seen a worse robbery then this fight , groves absolutely schooled him for the first 9 rounds , downs him once , frochs legs went to jelly , fair play he knocked him out in the fight after but I just think the performance from grooves is probs the best performance of a boxer I’ve genuinely ever seen
Harsh as fuck for Groves, he took a couple of big punches and the ref got carried away by the crowd going nuts. Groves might not have been able to hang in much longer but you never know and that's the problem we'll never know thanks to a bad call.
Groves is a more talented fighter than froch ever was
Terrible stoppage everytime I see it.
@angelameynell7970
5 жыл бұрын
Not really... Groves legs are gone.
@-mooreen-4776
3 жыл бұрын
@@angelameynell7970 you're a clown
@sergeysmirnov5986
3 жыл бұрын
@@-mooreen-4776 She is a woman
Not seen this for a while. What a fight that was! Groves was brilliant, and the ability of Froch to take those shots and keep going. Simply great…. We miss these days
Why they stopped the fight
Happy retirement George groves
Still makes me furious watching the stoppage
@angelameynell7970
5 жыл бұрын
Why!?! Groves is clearly out of it.
Great rivalry
This is the first fight that got me into boxing
Absolute shit referee Foster..Totally robbed!
what a joke stoppage.
That stoppage was a disgrace in a fight like this
Horrible referring, Froch should have had at least two points off and Groves should never have been stopped
Even when Froch went down he wasn't hurt. That was typical Froch fight. He always got hit, by everyone he faced.
@theboxingboy7422
2 жыл бұрын
He might of tried to poker face it but he was hurt from that shot watch his legs after they was not there. Say what you want about groves but the guy could wack
That was a disgusting decision Eddie hearn,s boy Robin fighters and saving eddies bacon horrid decisions
@jackthomson5047
4 жыл бұрын
Shut the fuck up. It's Howard Foster he's known for stopping fights early
You want to see amazing footwork. 5:52 . Amazing footwork by George. Amazing.
Ref should've let it go on - Groves was maybe 30 seconds max from being stopped legitimately. Maybe 15 seconds, actually. Best bit was how karma came for George after he'd said 'Are you going to cry, Carl?' in the build-up, only for someone to film him in the corridor after the fight where he was going 'I'm not a loser! I'm not a loser!' and literally crying.
I had GG up 5 rounds to 3(77-75) going into the ninth round.
@wordsfrom1985
4 жыл бұрын
same but I had the 10-8 round for groves knockdown...but genuinely think froch won 4-8 which put him one behind,groves gassed and was about to be put asleep by Carl
Froch got robbed of a great finish,Which then of course robs George Groves too. But a man should be aloud to go out on his shield!
@Amethyst_Friend
3 жыл бұрын
You are just parroting an idiot of a man- Deontay Wilder. You realise that to go out on one's shield means to die, right? I bet you thought the stoppage in Fury-Wilder 2 was premature as well, didn't you?
@TheEvanOf
3 жыл бұрын
@@Amethyst_Friend completely different. Wilder got knocked down twice and fell over a further 3 times. He was walking around like a drunk zombies for the last 3 rounds of that fight. Groves didn't get knocked over once ye she looked abit shaky but still. No comparable