Career Paths for Teens and Young Adults with ADHD (with Rick Fiery, M.S., MBA)

ADHD brings enormous strengths on the job - if that job is a good fit. But not all professions are ADHD friendly, and not all employers understand the strengths that ADHD minds bring to the workforce. The fact is, it is not always the responsibility of the employer to change the work environment to match an employee’s abilities and needs. It is your responsibility to help your teen or young adult explore career choices that will lead to success, and choose wisely at a young age.
In this hour-long ADHD Experts webinar replay, Rick Fiery explains how to find a fulfilling and successful career path for a teen or young adult with ADHD.
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  • @cristianaraujo9293
    @cristianaraujo9293 Жыл бұрын

    16:30 i went to school for software engineering for money, which i hated and thought i would "grow" to be interested in it...barely graduated, i definitely know that industry is not for me but now i work menial jobs and think this is probably what ill do for the rest of my life😂😭

  • @one5nine2six5three5eight9
    @one5nine2six5three5eight92 жыл бұрын

    I decided to take one for the team and take notes on the whole talk. You're welcome xx - There's a dude named Rick. He works with people with "learning differences" (read: us). Note: he is not a mental health professional. He is a businessman. He is, in other words, offering the perspective of an employer - Objective: helping teens and young adults with AD(H)D [teens and young adults with ADHD will henceforth be written as TAYAWA] find the right career path that will that harness and highlight ADHD strategies (tendencies?), * discuss what best nontraditional career paths exist for TAYAWA * discuss how to find schools to develop strengths before starting career search - 5:10 OBJ: find the overlap between passion, money, and something that you can be really good at --> this is the "sweet spot" - There can be a ton of potential career options in the sweet spot, so RIck is gonna help us figure out how to narrow our options down TL;DR "To help you figure out the most engaging career path possible where the chance for success is highest"

  • @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    2 жыл бұрын

    - 6:08 TAYAWA have unique strengths (i.e. creative, industrious, can hyperfocus, fun, empathetic, high energy) and weaknesses :-( (i.e. executive function challenges, hyperfocus again lol, anxiety, impulsivity) --> Rick believes we are stronger in the workplace than we are in academics - 9:33 Rick offers an anecdote in which the start up he was working for got acquired by a larger company and he was moved into that aforementioned company's finance department. He did well but eventually the work became monotonous and boring, so he "fired himself" so that he could work with start ups again. Though they're known for being risky, start ups were his ideal work environment. He found it riskier to settle into monotony, ironically, because he was more likely to slip up if he wasn't in the environment that he worked best in. TL;DR: Rick knew what worked best for him (know thyself. the good and the bad) and made what seemed to be a risky career move, BUUUT it was actually more risky for him to work in an environment that didn't utilize his strengths ----> Your best move might not seem like the best move for neurotypicals. Do what works for /you/

  • @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    2 жыл бұрын

    - 13:50 Rick says he thinks cheetahs are the most majestic animals. Why? They're powerful, fast, able to hyperfocus on prey, strike with precision. BUT they tire easily and sleep a lot. Sound familiar? The cheetah, cool as hell tho it may be, isn't gonna do well outside of its environment. So my dear cheetahs, *find your safari* ~~16:10 Job fit is especially important for TAYAWA. It has two components: the job itself and job environment~~ 16:30 THE JOB ITSELF Likely needs to challenge the mind, use at least one of ADHD strengths, needs a deep understanding of the day-to-day (I need to know everything about what I'm gonna do, not just the results), not just a general overview of what the job is or what the results of the labor are. 18:40 How do narrow down your career options? --> Find all possible jobs, see what passes through your ADHD CHALLENGE FILTER (can it work if you have executive function issues, anxiety, hyperactivity, etc.?) 19:33 t's hard to tell what will pass through the challenge filter because you don't know what exactly can be impacted by executive function issues, for example. Break it down (bonus points from the perspective of boss). Executive function impacts meeting deadlines, punctuality, working as a team, communicating. 21:17 For every ADHD challenge you have, aka everything you can't do, you find what you need in a job.

  • @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    2 жыл бұрын

    ~~BREAKDOWN OF COMMON ADHD CHALLENGES~~~ - EXECUTIVE FUNCTION: if you aren't punctual, you know you need to find a job where schedules are flexible (i.e. trades, software development, farming) - 24:36 HYPERFOCUS: Some places don't need the deep-dive and perfection that hyperfocus helps with. You might hyperfocus on things no one else cares about, much to their chagrin. FIND CAREERS THAT require/value hyperfocus, that need a perfectionist's hand, need the intricate understanding that comes from hyperfocusing (i.e. surgeon, air traffic control, musician) - 26:10 ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION: People without these struggles have a hard time empathizing with this. All jobs have stressors, but IDENTIFY YOUR ANXIETY TRIGGERS and seek out jobs that minimize these. BUT seeking out jobs devoid of all of these triggers is basically impossible and probably not beneficial for you. - 29:44 HYPERACTIVITY: Many jobs are desk jobs, open plan offices can be distracting, a lot of companies have meeting culture (which can be opportunities to show off your fidgeting abilities; may require extended focus) --> seek out jobs that don't require significant desk/screen time, company has progressive work environment (aka no gdamn cubicles), jobs that have you moving around physically, something people-facing (i.e. trades, tour guide, flight attendant) 32:08 Rate how severely each filter (i.e. executive function, hyperfocus, anxiety) negatively impacts you. This creates your own personal set of filters. In doing this, you break down the job search into more manageable chunks ~~~Progress can mean figuring out what you /don't/ want~~~

  • @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    2 жыл бұрын

    GAP YEAR 34:00 - If you're graduating high school, consider taking a GAP YEAR - WITHOUT THE STRESS OF BEING A STUDENT, TRY TO: Explore potential career options, build maturity and independence by living away from home, build life skills. - Take the time to figure out the WHY for your college experience. WHY am I here? What do I need/want to study to be able to do what I want? What do I even want to do? - maybe DON'T do the "I'm gonna backpack through Europe and see the world" sort of thing. It may give you too many options and ideas when it'd be best for you to be narrowing those things down - You just need to get started. You're gonna have many career paths so don't worry about getting married to one. INTERNSHIPS 35:25 - There are internships that are for people that *aren't* in college --> companies are actively looking to diversify their "brain portfolio" - It helps to answer the aforementioned "WHY" questions re: your college experience - Gives you experience without as much commitment

  • @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    @one5nine2six5three5eight9

    2 жыл бұрын

    Q&A SECTION QUESTION 1 (45:00) Q: I'm interested in entrepreneurship. What's an entry-level starting point for this? A: Starting this presents similar challenges as the career search--so many ideas. How do I narrow them down into something achievable? Narrow it down to bite-sized chunks that'll get your foot in the door. Check out IDEA INCUBATORS (can be no charge) in which you pitch ideas, speak to investors, etc. Don't assume that you need to create a business idea right out the gate to pursue this goal. Lookup START UP MEETUPS online. SOme people get together to exchange ideas and create startups. Network, babey. That's how you can score a job in the start up space. You can find these opportunities on job boards, too. THE BEST WAY TO FIND A STARTUP OPPORTUNITY is to be in a startup, though you don't have to be the CEO or anything. You just gotta be there in the embryonic state, yk. QUESTION 2 (47:25) Q: How do we introduce teens to summer jobs? A: Maybe consider "positions" rather than jobs. Perhaps, volunteering. They'll give you some experience without being as competitive and scarce as paid jobs. High schoolers usually don't get paid enough for it and it doesn't really help "find yourself" also they usually suck and build a negative association with the idea of working (I can attest to this) ~~It also makes your resume look noiiiice~~ QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MILITARY (49:45) Q: My child is patriotic and wants to be in the marines. How can I help her see that this might not play to her ADHD strengths/weaknesses? A: It's hard to say because some people enjoy and thrive in the structure. It's hard to give it a trial run as you could with an internship. Instead, try to TALK TO PEOPLE WITH MILITARY/MARINE EXPERIENCE perhaps a mentor to see what it's actually like. There's testing to see what kind of jobs you'd qualify for in the military. Take them and see if you like the idea of the results. ~~~~~There's a program that matches you with an opportunity to try out a career for a few weeks, though it is a paid service. Not sure what it is tho. There are also career aptitude tests.~~~~~ QUESTION 4 52:43 Q: Our son is 11 and hates school. He wants to quit school at 16 and pursue a trade career. What should we do? A: Woof. You gotta find something that can engage him. Figure out his "WHY" for going to school. Pick out a passion. There are also ALTERNATIVE SCHOOLS such as fusion academy which has 1:1 learning for younger students that works with how *they* learn and dw they can still get into college with this education QUESTION 5 54:35 Q: "What color is my parachute?" and how it applies to TAYAWA A: From what he recalls from this book, the book is about the generics but TAYAWA don't work for that. It's a bit too mainstream. But the idea of filtering and identifying strengths and weaknesses is still very applicable QUESTION 6 56:00 Q: Should you tell employers that you have ADHD? A: It depends on the job. If you're applying something for like accounting (need to be detail-orientation). Sometimes your CV says it for you in other words and you'll be placed accordingly. ADHD is an ADA protected disability and thus accommodations must be made but they're oftentimes hard to do in the workplace so it's ideal to find situations where such accommodations aren't needed. You can feel it out. Share it only if you're sure the employer is gonna be cool with it. It helps to frame it as something that'll help you do X for your employer rather than requiring your employer to do X for you QUESTION 7 57:38 Q: Do you know of any places that can teach kids how to improve executive function? A: Our (?) approach is to give people a ton of "life hacks" around executive function. Calendaring is also helpful (trello is a good resource) bc it helps you lay out your tasks in a graphical manner. You can organize your tasks, get reminders, and mark things as "complete" which is satisfying. You need to find tools to help manage EFD. Rick doesn't like boosting his services but you can check out inventivelabs.org if you want to check him out tho

  • @6alal88
    @6alal882 жыл бұрын

    Obviously we have ADHD , can you please make videos that’s shorter so we can focus and learn from it , right now I need help from your videos so bad but watching them remind me but I have ADHD and it’s kind of boring ,, nothing can makes me feel worse 💔 And thanks for everything

  • @86sineadw

    @86sineadw

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can second that. I just finished a degree and I found that a lecturer that walked around the room and used limited words on his slides and more pictures/videos during lectures helped keep my attention. He also used music and poetry for each topic in the class, and this was a health degree. The same could be given here, maybe a full-body video so we can stay engaged with body language not just face videos, some more pictures instead of words. Also if they could have time stamps of the content in the videos along the white fast forward rewind line (like you see some youtube content creators doing). So time stamps could be speakers credentials, intro, how to decide what career you want etc. This way you can skip back forth

  • @jrr2045

    @jrr2045

    2 жыл бұрын

    Having the same problem. I suspect this is a great lecture, but I cannot for the life of me get through it without falling out of focus. Watched three times now. 🫣

  • @kristimoore5807

    @kristimoore5807

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Please be explicit about exactly how to obtain a career in a non-tradional way. Example computers: #1. bootcamp #2. Certification Tests #3. Internship #4. AA degree etx.

  • @christina_cl

    @christina_cl

    10 ай бұрын

    The trick is to keep your hands busy! I like to work on LEGO sets or puzzles myself while listening to these webinars. The hour passes by in no time.

  • @tmc1373
    @tmc13732 жыл бұрын

    Video is too long!!