Canons marketing dept at it's finest smh Great vid, I thought my shutter count was a tad off. Glad you confirmed it!

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The only job that over achieving backfires lol.

Finally. I have been looking for information on this for a LONG time and I haven't found anything at all until now. Thank you for taking the time for this

Ty for the video…. I’ve searched and you are the only one out there that goes through exactly how to get the best fps out of my R5.

Finally a useful video. Its great, you took time to research this. I have been searching for R5 burst rate videos for long, but no one seemed to do that. I am gain thankful for the efforts, that you made. Keep up the good work man!

Great video thanks for taking the time to do this tests and sharing them. Getting my R5 this Friday and the battery and shutter speed was one of my big questions. Really happy with this video

Exactly the information I was looking for! Thank you 🙏

Thank you for sharing your informative and thorough assessment of the R5 mechanical shutter capabilities.

Great work Trevor, I have an R5 too. This video was very insightful. Really appreciate the time you have taken to put this together.

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

Thanks for running the R5 through its paces so we can see what does and doesn't affect frame rate. Well done!

Wow, exactly what I've been looking for! Thank you:)

Great review, very valuable information. You have totally changed my perspective of how useful my older "6N" batteries will be and have saved me some money on updating to the "6NH" series.

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brent! Glad you found it helpful. I was pleased about the 6N battery performance too!

EXCELLENT Review, Thank you !! Just received the R5 and these same questions came to mind. Especially shooting high speed sports that I’ll be doing very often! Great to know about the R5. Especially the WiFi and definitely be bringing more batteries to keep that full charge! 🔋 Thanks!

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marc! Glad my video will help you out!

Outstanding testing and analysis. Thank you.

Great in-depth test. Well done

Thanks for your video. This was helpful to understand requirements for the higher fps.

just received my R5 and found this information so useful. Brilliant vlog

Valuable information and well documented. Thank You!

Thats Nice one Mate.. good work & Can see the efforts taken behind doing R&D 😊Keep it up 👍🏻

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Good job experimenting the PFS, and great video! Thank you.

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jimmy!

This is tremendously useful! Thank you very much

Brilliant video. Very useful inputs!

this is some valuable info for anyone picking up this camera , from noob to pro, this is indispensable Great Content

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Fred! Im glad this info was helpful!

Thanks for doing this video. I've been using the EOS R5 bodies since the end of July and am very happy with them. I don't shoot bursts very often but haven't had any complaints about the speed. The only thing I've had issues with is the *temperature warning* icon showing up while shooting only stills. I even updated firmware on one body and left the old firmware on the other body.

Great video and testing! Very helpful as I just received my R5 and haven't had the chance to test yet - I only have EF lenses, but have a mix between the newest and oldest batteries so this is certainly good info to have.

Thank you for the work you did and this video.

Cool video. I like how you worked out the actual shutter speed for the different settings. I wouldn't have thought to average the shutter speed in lightroom

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It was the only way I could think of getting reliable results

Thanks a lot for putting forth all these points.

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome and thank you for watching!

Thank you very much. I'm still waiting for my R5 to arrive.

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hope you get it soon!

wow Great Job Man Thanks For Great Video Amazing Test

Great video very helpful

Thanks for this very useful review. Will you be doing a similar test with the 20 frames per second electronic shutter mode?

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! im glad you found it helpful. I wont be doing the same test for the Electronic shutter. I originally did this testing for myself to solve the issue i was having of a slower shutter than expected. I was also curious to see if there would be artifical bottlenecks placed on the camera, which i was happy to find none. At the end i figured it would be useful to the public and made the video. I would expect the results to be consistant with the Electronic shutter. Keep WIFI off, use an LP-E6N/LP-E6NH battery above 50% and you should get the R5s fullest speed.

Thank you for this info.

Brilliant. Thank you so much.

Thank you for taking the time to run these tests. The information is very helpful and interesting. I have several LP-E6N batteries that I can now use as my new battery drops below 50% instead of buying more of Canon’s overpriced new ones. One question; I wonder how third party batteries will fair. Keep up the great work!

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bruce! I've read on forums about 3rd parties batteries and it seems to be a mixed bag. I have yet to hear concrete info on a good quality 3rd party battery that doesnt handycap the R5. If i find one ill definitly let you know!

@bruceleonard3096

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 Thanks again!

Thank you. Great video!

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Thanks for the Info. I am a bird photographer with the R5 and have wondered about this. Again thanks very much.

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! I hope this information helps!

Thanks for this video.

Great Work! Thank you! One question, was the H+ green with all the lenses? Was it ever blinking?

This was already covered by Canon on release news. You need good glass and a battery that is compatible yes. The H+ has to be solid on the camera. It is a very fast, solid, great camera.

Great info!

Great video

I should also add it doesn’t appear you were focusing in between frames and that plays a factor. That’s the reason some EF lenses can’t achieve max FPS, because they physically can’t focus fast enough. It’s easy to achieve max FPS when you’re shooting still life that doesn’t require continuous focus.

@omegavladosovich6757

2 жыл бұрын

Some nitpickers like to consider the true FPS as as the shots properly tracked in continuous autofocus. I recall Tony did that in a previous video which is kinda a moot point but I do agree for flying birds not having tracking paced for the full shooting speed is annoying (like in the 90D).

@kurtissutley1485

Жыл бұрын

You make a good point but you also make Canon's point of "up to" FPS. Everyone tries to get the best specs for their product. I flew the F-4E in the early 70's and McDonald Douglas claimed the F-4 was a MACH 2 airplane. It was when completely stripped down without pylons or external fuel tanks, which it would never be in the "real" world. Start adding capabilities and computer tasking and this is what you get, a great frame working it's little processor to give you everything it can. Expectation is everything and the source of all frustration. I love my R5.

@AnthonyToglife

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtissutley1485 I love my R5 as well, but I can definitely say I don't like a lot of the marketing "gimmicks" companies are doing nowadays. Like in your example, don't market something that you know darn-near every one of your customers won't be able to achieve because they wouldn't use the product in a manner to do so. But hey, whatever looks good on paper I guess, lol.

Good work m8

Very helpful, thanks! You saved me a Support call which would probably have given me inaccurate information.

Thanks man

Thanks. I'm still waiting for my R5 to arrive. (netherlands start of 2021, i hope december this year) I am curious about the test results with a EF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II USM

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I hope you get the camera soon! I dont know for sure but i would expect the 70-200 would work perfectly.

Thank you

Thanks for such an in-depth video. I would be curious to see what your FPS results would be if you were shooting RAW not CRAW.

Thank you!

Hi. I am lost about third parties batteries since of course I want to reach the H+ mode and 12fp/20fp speed. I have found a Patona Platinum battery LP-E6NH 2250mAh 7,2V and a generic brand (DSTE), LP-E6N with 7,4V and 2600mAh. Question: which of the 2 batteries might provide best performances for the Canon R5 in order to get H+ and 12fp/20fp shutting speed?

Thanks for the test. Must be a lot of work. Good information to know. With 45 mp, I am fine even with 10 FPS. I shoot bird/wildlife. I am very happy with its FPS and AF speed.

this was good

What about when is servo and lock on? Us also 12fps?

Hello . About r& I am in trouble about shutter speed. I am using the middle setting ( 1st curtain) but I would like change ..if situation need ..to the faster electronic shutter. Have anyone an idea if is possible fix this option in a personl setting ? (no C options). Thanks

Do you have any testing on how to get 20fps on r5?

I have been searching for a video with step-by-step setup for shooting high speed mechanical shutter but have not found these instructions. I would think it may be worth your time to make a video like this. I have yet been able to shoot high speed shutter on my EOS R6.

ufff I dont know how I could activate the continuous shutter, but I follow most of your recomendations, thanks

What AF modes did you try? Or was the test done in Single Af mode and not ai servo

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steven, thanks for watching! The tests I performed were in Single AF mode. I was trying create controlled and repeatable test to isolate where and what the bottlenecks within the camera are. I was able to figure out the biggest factors in the camera were wifi and battery type and charge. I figured servo would add an extra variable that wasn't repeatable in the 60+ tests i did. Also it would add the lens AF motors as another variable which could be a bottleneck in itself that has nothing to do with the camera. Hope that makes sense.

is the photos still 14bit?

What was the change in FPS in ELECTRONIC shutter when the battery dropped

@thejpegexperience7488

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question. I didn't do the same testing for the Electronic Shutter. I personally don't use it much and testing the Mechanical Shutter took me way too long. lol

@longrider9551

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 okay thank you anyway and thank you for the information you did provide

Flicker control can be a serious SoB on shutter speed performance. You didn't happen to try this with flicker control on/off by any chance??

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

I did not. I knew flicker would drop the shutter speed to match whatever light was flickering. Which would be to a huge variable to test. Each light would flicker differently and That would be more of a review of lights than the r5. It would be interesting to explore though. 🤔

@TubaSolotheHiker

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 Yeah my only concern is that where I shoot (high school sports) I usually have flicker control turned on. There is no noticeable difference with the 5DIV but the manual for the R5 says speeds go as low as 4.9fps..(Yikes!). That is a huge departure from 12/9fps you know? Now with that said, if those 4.9fps are all in focus then its not the worst thing in the world honestly but yeah I was kind of surprised at what I was reading in the manual when it came to flicker control.

High frame rate draw a lot of current out of the battery. - The older versions of this battery are not specified for this current. - If the state of charge of a battery drops, the maximum current drops. All makes sense, for me it is more a miracle 12 FPS is possible with a camera of this kind at all. With some other lenses you will recognize a drop with closed aperture as well. Those older lenses were never specified for such high speed operation.

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter! I appreciate your feedback and agree 12FPS is a wonder. Its honestly the stat that i was most excited about. I agree that results will very when it comes to the lenses but i wanted to know if the battleneck was with the camera on "unsupported" lenses or if it was truely just the quality of the lens. My testing suggests that there is not an artifical block by the camera and is just dependant on the quality of the lens and its AF capabilities.

Did you get any response from Canon Engineers?Usually they don't care.

Good tests. Canon is being conservative on some of that stuff, which you've discovered. I get 12 fps down to 42% battery life (use battery grip) and then it takes a dive; you can hear it. Also, I I've gone down to 1/800 and still had the blinking green H+. I've gone out shooting and have yet to go below 50% battery life, but I also carry 2 spares, just in case. With that said, I am ok with 8 fps as 12 fps gives too many images. I usually set my fps on DSLRs to 8 fps. I like to modulate my shots, so I am not getting 12 of the same images. To be fair, the 1Ds had qualified requirements to get the max shutter speeds also. I get the max fps with the EF 600 f4II, 100-400II. I get the flashing white with the EF135 f2, EF 85 1.8 and EF 100 macro (non IS) lenses. Is that the 100 macro IS lens? If so, 12 fps make sense.

I suspect you may find the aperture starts to make a difference once you factor in autofocus - the camera is probably having to open the lens up to max aperture to focus, then close it down to your chosen aperture for the photo, then open it up again, autofocus, close it down again, take photo... as many times as it can per second. This is likely to have a considerable effect on the maximum number of photos you can take per second. Or in other words - it would be interesting if you try re-running your tests but with autofocus trying to focus on stuff.

Fantastic video. This info should be readily available but like you said was not.

Are you shooting RAW,CRAW, or JPEG In these examples?

@thejpegexperience7488

2 жыл бұрын

CRAW

@ChalkandIron

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 Either my R5 is malfunctioning or my memory card is a knockoff bought off amazon, I can't clear the buffer in craw and have to stop shooting for 20+ seconds

@thejpegexperience7488

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChalkandIron That must be annoying. what card are you using?

@ChalkandIron

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 am using a Delkin 128gb, about to go to best buy in 30 mins and get another brand and try the continuous burst and see what the buffer does.

@ChalkandIron

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 The test with a new card is pending. The Best Buy nearest me did not carry CF Express cards.

How you measure this fps?

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

I did a multisecond burst. Then used the timestamp to get a full 3 sec burst and divided the amount of frames.

My problem is not really that it's not truly 12fps, but how when the battery life is low it drops accordingly for each setting. If I'm shooting H, it drops to like 5fps and I have to switch to H+ which is still faster!

Why Craw and not full raw?

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

CRAW and RAW offer the same image quality and are both fully editable. CRAW just happens to be newer and is a smaller file size.

@strippedlist

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 no, one is 50 mb, the other one is 21 mb...SO WHEN YOU TESTED THE 12 FPS WAS WITH CRAW, 21mb files each that means in full raw maximum 6 fps...i don't shoot craw for magazines and prints

I cannot figure out for the life of me why I wasn't getting 12 frames. It's never been a problem before and I have had it since release. I noticed the other day that I wasn't getting 12 frames. It was because I had electronic first curtain shutter on. Go figure

and to imagine I was complaining about Nikon's marketing when I had my D850, lol. with my D850 I get 9fps even when my grip battery has 1%. what is this? seems like canon hard coded a limit to fps in the camera's software to not cannibalize the R3 sales. I really don't believe canon's lithium battery manufacturing is this bad, that a pack with less than 50% change delivers less voltage. there's no way. they literally nerf their cameras even at this level xD.

The manual isn’t incorrect, it’s conservative. Had that information not been there and you didn’t achieve the listed FPS, you’d be making this video, ironically, still saying the same thing. I hate to break it tp you but EVERY camera, every brand has limitations on its max FPS. Up to in marketing is necessary because...well, the number listed is the max you can achieve. Where’s the problem?

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Anthony thanks for watching and appreciate your feedback! I agree that some of the items in the manual could be construed as conservative and that's not a problem IMO. The Manual says 1/1000 shutter and my testing was around 1/500, the manual says 60% battery charge or higher in my case I found it was around 45%. Both points being under the "results will vary" caveat which is understandable, reasonable, and to be expected. I think there is value in the testing and information I shared in knowing what to expect in those aspects of the Camera. The information in the manual requiring an LP-E6NH is incorrect IMO when an LP-E6n produces the same results. I don't consider that being conservative but actually incorrect. The manual is also incorrect with the "Maximum aperture, and RF/compatible EF lenses" requirement, This changed nothing for the camera and was glad to find there wasn't an artificial bottleneck placed in the camera to limit 3rd party lenses. I would think this is also valuable information for people to know. With that knowledge they now know that the Bottleneck in FPS would be in the quality of the Lens and AF. Another reason for investing in quality glass. I do mention in the video that there are reasonable expectations for what the "up to" could mean. I use the example of AF, lens compatibility, and buffering as reasons for the "Up to" which is not a problem IMO.I would expect that to be the same in all cameras but I don't think to a reasonable person the "up to" covers battery charge % and Wi-Fi connections which is also a highly advertised feature which happens to be advertised directly adjacent to the 12/20 FPS. I took exception to the marketing because those are important things to know about such a highlighted and important feature of the camera without disclosing the limitations. When I was buying the camera and thoroughly looked for any such limitations they could not be found even on the full spec sheet and at that time the manual was not released on the canon website. I really love this camera, it's easily the best i've ever used. I mention how much I like it and how I am continually impressed by it. I think my criticism of the marketing and limitations on the Shutter is a testament to the engineering behind the camera. It's a workhorse of a camera and delivers on everything I ask of it. Again thanks for watching and commenting Anthony! I appreciate your feedback.

@markrigg6623

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing earth shattering about the performance versus the quoted specifications. Its the same with my Sonys. What I did notice is that when you fired off that burst saying "check this out", it was shooting noticeably slower than when you actually were doing the tests later on. This wasn't acknowledged or discussed . ?????

@AnthonyToglife

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 I respectfully must say you're looking at things in a vacuum. When you put out a manual, you can't include, exclude, or dictate what you say based off of one round of testing, one type of scenario, etc. Yes, in your very controlled testing you have favorable results but that certainly doesn't mean the manual is incorrect, and one could argue you're giving someone a false sense of hope. You really needed to do A LOT more testing to come to the conclusions you have. AF'ing on a plant is the most basic and mediocre way to test anything FPS/AF related, and FPS will be largely dictated by how well the camera can achieve focus (if you have your camera set to focus priority). To be frank, I likely take issue to anyone who, as an individual person, would assert that a brand/company manual is wrong and they are right. You should probably do some research into the amount of planning and work that goes into creating a user guide.

smh another negative Nancy :(

@thejpegexperience7488

3 жыл бұрын

I like the use of "Negative Nancy" :) But i honestly dont think i was negative in this video and that certainly wasnt my intent if i was. I mention how much i like the camera and how impressive it is a few times. My goal was to share results of my testing of the Mechanical Shutter. I think there is value in knowing exactly when and how to get the most FPS out of this camera and where the battlenecks actually are.

@JaredRibic

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejpegexperience7488 - Agreed. I think your test results were actually very positive. So many people think they need to get the new batteries in order to get these framerates.