What would you have done differently? Canon: "We should've released it in winter."

@kian8382

4 жыл бұрын

@SwitchRich damn it, so easy to forget the southerners.

@adambaus2427

4 жыл бұрын

​ @SwitchRich Yeh its Winter in Australia it was a chilly 19C in Sydney today. So cold :|

@marioslrzn

4 жыл бұрын

Kian J Canon should of left the high bit rates out and released them as a firmware. Then there wouldn’t be any overheating issues and the camera would of been compared to the proper a7r4, z7, s1r and it would of blown those cameras away, but since canon decided to market as an 8k camera now its getting negative reviews even though it doesn’t over heat on the same bit rates as it’s competitors, people are stuck on the overheating high bit rates even though its’ the only camera that offer it. It’s like Canon offfers the best high end photography camera currently on the market but it’s getting bash for the video specs that it’s straight competitors don’t offer, Canon damn if you do, damn if you don’t

@kian8382

4 жыл бұрын

@@marioslrzn I agree, the R5 is great as it is, and people who need those high-end video features shouldn't expect it to replace pro video cameras.

@Rafaelinux

4 жыл бұрын

@@marioslrzn it overheats on 4k hq in 20 minutes. It overheats doing stills in heif. It overheats doing nothing under the sun. It's really not a usable camera, unfortunately

as an Australian I need a sweater for something as cold as 27c

@Papaghost8902

4 жыл бұрын

Oath mate.

@glsracer

4 жыл бұрын

Same goes for folks from Arizona.

@kingsamvisuals

4 жыл бұрын

Same in Jamaica

@penchiselcamera

4 жыл бұрын

Jumper...

@tim66612343

4 жыл бұрын

As as Pom I don't expect any overheating 🤣

Would love a stills-only side by side comparison of the R5 and R6 where you go into more depth about the practical differences with regards to dynamic range, noise, low light AF performance, EVFs, and less often talked about aspects such as external cable release, intervalometer, GPS and accessories.

@johnmcclung4736

4 жыл бұрын

See Tony Norhtrup's newest video, covers all that quite well. Hope I can mention names here!

Thanks guys, good to hear your comments, as a photo shooter I am hyped to get my R5, for the most part the video issues won't be an issue for me.

It’s nice to hear about the stills features for a while because this camera looks like it’s pretty my much perfect for photographers.

@cbflazaro

4 жыл бұрын

this camera still specs: A7R3 but with less dynamic range.

@jlarasula7311

4 жыл бұрын

@@cbflazaro on paper maybe.

@Illuminationsfromtheattic

4 жыл бұрын

It's funny that the R5 turned out to be the perfect stills camera and not so much for video after Canon hyped it's video capabilities so much!

@ArteUltra1195

4 жыл бұрын

Bruno Lazaro typical sonyshooter, no idea about anything besides bolstering about the specsheet. Youve never taken Photos with a fullframe Canon camera is my guess.

@cbflazaro

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArteUltra1195 I have. Just sold my Canon gear. I've used all major brands of cameras. Canons always had 2 less stops DR than the competition. R5 is no different.. Has 11 usable stops in video, while yhr a7s3 has 13

If you really need long 4k HQ or 8k videos, it's the wrong camera. For all others (about 95%) it's just PERFECT.

27 degrees...a hot winter day in Greece!!!

@kiwimike2330

4 жыл бұрын

And here in Brisbane, it was 28 yesterday, in literally in middle of winter.

@frankly5171

4 жыл бұрын

I will wait to buy until the overheating problem is solved.

The fetal position pic of Jordan is totally worth it

"Today is the hottest day of the year at 27°c" holy shit, I've never heard a better argument for straight up moving to Canada. I haaaate the heat, and we had 34°c here in Germany recently.

@98JamesNixon

4 жыл бұрын

Nicolas K. Yesterday in England we had 34c and I thought we were supposed to be the grey country with rubbish weather!

@tallaganda83

4 жыл бұрын

Me too we were getting to 50 in Australia last summer, its unbearable.

@SuperLisandro86

4 жыл бұрын

Come to the north of Galicia, in the north-west side of Spain. Hotter day here this summer was like 28ºC. And during winter, you will never get less than 5º during daytime, of course not a single day where it snows, usually the temeperature during winter is always between 8-15ºC. Aaaan we have the best beaches on Europe, way better than the mediterranean sea and less crowded. www.turismo.gal/recurso/-/detalle/10323/carnota?langId=es_ES&tp=3&ctre=15

@bioliv1

4 жыл бұрын

Down to Canada you mean: DMS latitude longitude coordinates for Montréal are: 45°30'31.82"N, 73°35'16.12"W. DMS latitude longitude coordinates for Berlin are: 52°31'27.73"N, 13°24'37.91"E. But you can move up to Norway. But I'll not recommend that, as German capital is now carpet bombing our country with wind power plants: christinafjeldavlino.home.blog/2020/07/19/gegenwind-norwegen/

@user-gl1ig6wn7l

4 жыл бұрын

Try 43 in shade, here in Israel...

What I don't get is that up until about 2 weeks ago, there was basically no such thing as 4K 60p (let alone 120P) on a full frame mirrorless camera. All the Sonys overheated in 4k at only 30 fps (A7III would overheat after about 20 mins according to Daniel Schiffer), and even the cropped Xt4 would overheat after about 14 mins in 4K 60p. Your only real option was the 1D Mark II/III or cinema cameras. Also, up until a couple weeks ago, these same KZreadrs were saying that they didn't like shooting 4K because of large file sizes, slow editing and encoding. We also heard complaints about the fact that the EOS-R had a cropped 4K and people wanted full width 4K. So now, the R5 comes out with 45 of the sharpest MP around (beating the A7RIV in Tony Northrups tests), some of the best lowlight of any camera for photography (again Tony said it was the best, better than the previous champ A7RIV), the best full frame IBIS, the best eye-AF, pushing 12 FPS, AND you can shoot 4K FULL FRAME 24/30p with no heat problems at all no matter how long you shoot. It's been proven you can't see a difference between 720p - 4K (check Matti Happooja's video on this) let alone between the normal 4K and HQ 4K when viewed normally (not zoomed in 300%) even on a 5k monitor (I've tried). BUT, in addition to all this, you have the option of 4K 120 (never before found on a mirrorless camera), the sharpest 4K ever on a mirrorless (HQ mode, shown better than the R6 or A7SIII), or 8K Raw.... internal... something no camera outside of a super expensive cinema camera can offer. Yet, for some reason, people are now saying that the camera may not be good for video because of record limitations due to heat in these specialty modes that nobody had up until 2 weeks ago... and are comparing this camera to a crippled 12 MP, video-centric camera... that doesn't even shoot 8K or any internal raw at all. Weird.

@mexicanjester

4 жыл бұрын

How much did Canon pay you to write this? Are they hiring other shills right now? I could really use the cash.

@nunosantos8784

4 жыл бұрын

@@mexicanjester Well, if you are searching for paid people, you may feel confortable going to Max Youriev that goes to other youtube channels on the comments section batling and saying that the overheat problems of some a7sIII it may be faulty samples, or you can go to Gerald Undone channel and listening that the a7r4 is a better camera than the R5. I believe that you will feel much better, listening those clowns.

27 degrees Celsius “hottest day”. laughs in Indonesia,Malaysia,Singapore, thailand,vietnam,india,uae,qatar,saudi arabia,iran,Iraq,mesir,Mexico in American movies..

@mugdays

4 жыл бұрын

Even in the U.S., 27 degrees Celsius is not hot. In Phoenix, Arizona, it will be 45 degrees C basically every day this week.

@SatanSupimpa

4 жыл бұрын

27 degrees here in Brazil yesterday, and we're in the middle of winter.

@GuntherSchmidl

4 жыл бұрын

Also much of Europe.

@dumbarsechippy

4 жыл бұрын

27°c is still long pants weather here in Australia

@keima1110

4 жыл бұрын

They will laugh at your coldest day which is 27C ..

as a dude situated along the equator line, 27c is what i set my air conditioning unit to

@KynanTegar

4 жыл бұрын

typing this from 33c Indonesia!

@anony_meows

4 жыл бұрын

@@KynanTegar 19 minutes record time in 27c, yikes. imagine what would happen in the hellhole that is jakarta and tangerang selatan (can be over 39c in summer peak)

@federicopalleri9416

4 жыл бұрын

Yesterday 38c here in Italy 🙌🏻

@nabin9768

4 жыл бұрын

42 deg C here in Delhi. I'd say R5 for outdoor video recording (or even extensive photo shooting) is pretty much useless from Feb - Nov. 🥵

@marioslrzn

4 жыл бұрын

Nabin You know you can shoot standard 4k30fps with no issues....People are shooting in Texas today 95 degrees today

The 4K 24p HQ looks gorgeous... Cant wait to shoot..

If this was a Peter McKinnon video there would lots of slowmo super carefully treated colors. But here we have Chris's coming down a rock wall on flip flops hahahahahahahahá I love it

@therealjimmy5411

4 жыл бұрын

This is also a non-biased review. The PM version is really just a commercial.

@thegrayyernaut

4 жыл бұрын

@@therealjimmy5411 Peter is a Canon ambassador after all. And I do enjoy biased reviews from people whom I enjoy listening to, like Peter on Canon, and James Popsys on Panasonic Lumix.

@smashexentertainment676

4 жыл бұрын

Almost every single PM video is a product placement.

@controllverse4013

4 жыл бұрын

Guys, Peter McCanon is VERY unbiased! I mean Mckinnon.

I used to hear people complain that Canon artificially limited it's camera video. They finally listen, and everyone complains they overheat. It's a camera with video capabilities that have some competition for the other cameras in it's league. It is not a RED video camera, it's a replacement for the 5D series DSLR camera. Everybody knew that heat was going to be an issue, we have been hearing that since the day the video capabilities were first discussed. I really was hoping for a video talking about how it worked as a camera, you normally talk about how the camera photo resolution is. And when I finally get your review it's "great", and everyone will be pleased, but it overheats! I need to know if it's going to be soft in details like other Canon mirrorless cameras!

@luttekikker

4 жыл бұрын

Just read the EOSHD article: www.eoshd.com/news/eoshd-testing-finds-canon-eos-r5-overheating-to-be-fake-with-artificial-timers-deployed-to-lock-out-video-mode/?fbclid=IwAR3ZlWMnq2tfHN1Z9StLUBJ4GP47xEmml2WXmMyCuBEfMPz8HxFdijp4WFA

Got my R5 today. I’m mostly a photographer who does documentary video work. I shot 4k24 HD and 4k24 and there really wasn’t enough of a difference to justify leaving it in HD mode. With that, there are no record limits. If I do slow mo, it’s mostly 30-60 second clips that will expand in the final video. I shot for four hours on a single battery (off/on photo and video) and never got an overheat warning and ended up with beautiful footage. The photos are out of this world. Low light is crazy good. It’ll be a few days before I can try some astrophotography shots, but I’m super excited about that, too. I’m very pleased with my purchase.

Chris, this is your mom! Get back in the house and take off those ridiculous flip flops, young man!

@smashexentertainment676

4 жыл бұрын

Devin Supertramp used to film all the stuff in flip flops. He says it helps to achieve more cinematic look.

As a photographer who only rarely does video, this camera seems really harmed by being marketed primarily for that 8k feature. I mean it’s pretty much a compact 1dxiii with virtually all the speed and twice the resolution - (exciting that no reviewers are grumbling about its lowlight performance for all those pixels). And while it’s expensive for a 5D series it’s cheaper than a 1dxiii too.

@mattc3510

4 жыл бұрын

Yep it’s a baby 1dxm3, without the data redundancy or reliability to use on professional sets. Hence why it’s cheaper. It’s a killer camera though and will be an amazing camera for the right people.

@MrClarkeGaber

4 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily.... I think it's fantastic for people that primarily use a camera for taking photos, and on occasion wanna shoot some short vids. The fact that the video is outta this world seals the deal for me, I'm not shooting hour long interviews.

@adebrophy1942

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrClarkeGaber yes agree. I should say the camera isn't harmed at all - it's great. It's more that the marketing emphasis has caused unnecessary confusion when the actual product looks very compelling.

Fantastic. Thanks fellas. Been waiting for someone to comment on the EF IS + IBIS combination.

Chris' metric to imperial conversions are always spot on

The Canon R5 Brilliant photo camera Limited high spec Video camera .......but a great heating device for campers ...heat the room and cooks some eggs 🍳 😅

@jlarasula7311

4 жыл бұрын

Wait I'll buy some marshmallows and sticks

@ItzSi

4 жыл бұрын

JL Arasula 👌🏼now we have a party 🎉

@rrafaelpaz

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

I'm going to preface this by saying that I'm a multi-system shooter (Canon, Sony, m43). I received my R5 a couple days ago, and have an A7SIII preordered for use as a dedicated video body. I think that if your main use is video then the A7SIII is the best purely video-optimized tool out there, surpassing even the Panasonics in that respect. IMO 8K doesn't really add much value for most people shopping for hybrid bodies (real 8K workflows seem to involve Red Ranger 8KVVs and the like). With that said I love the total package of features in the R5, and believe that the video tools are enough for my uses, though I use a Ninja V most of the time anyway, which may skew my assessment of the 4KHQ mode a bit. Even when I record internally I use the Ninja as a monitor for focus/waveforms/etc. One thing that I don't think gets mentioned enough: The R5 also has 1.6x cropped 4K24/30/60 modes that are oversampled from 5.1K (basically the EOS R's crop, but with oversampling and 60 fps). The IQ is slightly worse than the 4KHQ mode but a lot better than the line-skipped ones. I expect that it's equivalent to the R6's 5.1K oversampled modes, modulo the crop of course. I took my R5 outside in bright sunlight in 38C weather the other day, attached my trusty Sigma 18-35/1.8, and shot cropped/oversampled 4K30 with internal recording for over an hour (stopping/restarting at 29:59, of course). No problem. Canon's specifications also say that that mode does not overheat. In that respect it's a lot like the A7R[234] - you can either have a limited 4K FF mode, or a really good oversampled crop mode.

This is great stuff! Serious food for thought here. I'm an old, archaic guy (60), and I've been happily in the DLSR camp for years. I've still got my original 300D, which I've had for 20 years, and is too much of an old friend to get rid of. Over the years, I've added a 20D, a 7D Mk II, and finally a 1DX Mk III. I'd never really worried about moving to mirrorless, even if DSLRs are officially "obsolete" now. However, I find that I've been giving some thought to picking up an R5. With the exception of a soon-to-come Sigma 100-600C, and a Tokina 19-35 that I've had for years, all of my lenses are Canon EF or EF-S, so the ability to use an EF-RF adapter is a powerful incentive. I don't shoot video at all, only stills, so the overheating issues I've read about really wouldn't apply. I don't know, it's kind of a coin flip. I could add a used 5D Mk IV to my bag, but that would be redundant with the 1DX, even if the former has slightly higher resolution in terms of MPs. Christmas is coming…

That was a fantastic and fair review. Thanks guys.

If I was going to use this camera for video, just being an enthusiast. Id mostly use 4k24 or 1080. I'm primarily a stills shooter, all the photography tech in the R5 does it for me! Ill buy one in the future.

DPR: 27°C hottest day🤭 Me: LMFAO, 40-45°C on an average while summer in India...!🤷🏻‍♂️ And 27° we call it winter here😂

@gamerjack5612

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, and R5 will outperform A7SIII in India.

@ArpanMukhopadhyay93

4 жыл бұрын

0 degree in winter and 45 in summer. Or Bangalore where it is 27 throughout the year 🤣

@RandallMeredith

4 жыл бұрын

Florida forget about it

@DreamReleases

4 жыл бұрын

Not in Mumbai it isn't however.

@falxonPSN

4 жыл бұрын

@@gamerjack5612 not sure if you're joking, but the R5/6 will be annoying as hell to use in actual high temperatures. Cool down times will be terrifying.

Another great review chaps, thanks!

can i just say that the musics on this video are just so cozy

Great refiew guys! Your experiences are 100% consistent with mine. Something you didn't mention is battery life - did y'all have any issues with it? I've run out of battery every single time I've taken it out for a day of shooting, but I can't easily quantify it. It's a pretty easy fix - carry extra batteries - but I've become accustomed to cameras (even mirrorless) just lasting all day. I'm guessing that sophisticated focusing system is using a bunch of power.

@darkerarts

4 жыл бұрын

A friend was telling me he was hitting over 1000 shots with old LP-E6N batteries with his R5 yesterday. Even with me R, I've hit 2400 shots even though Canon says 350.

@controllverse4013

4 жыл бұрын

Hey T&C one of my FAVORITE channels!!! You guys have helped me so much over the years. Off topic, but could you please compare R6 and a7sIII noise performance and IQ throughout the range. Your last test makes me want to get the R6 over the a7sIII, but I'm not sure about that. Everyone is quoting you as saying the R6 is better than a7sIII in low light. Is that true?

@aknori

3 жыл бұрын

What about the eos r5 v 1dxmk 3?

@mlai2546

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkerarts I think the CIPA rating may be measured using mechanical shutter. I got 600+ shots with my Z6 and battery shows 70% left. I was shooting with electronic shutter.

@axelfiraxa

2 жыл бұрын

@@mlai2546 that is indeed how they test because it is the most consistent with previous SLRs. Using electronic 1st curtain or all electronic provides quite a lot if improvememt by not requiring the movement of the mechanical shutter

Great video. Given the reservations you guys have about the video side of EOS R5, what would you say is single the most compelling reason to upgrade from EOS R to this camera, *if any*?

@xmlthegreat

4 жыл бұрын

That at least it's competitive with the rest of the industry on the specs sheet. The EOS R isn't even anywhere nearby.

@SonnyBCreative

4 жыл бұрын

the photos, autofocus, ibis

@ColinRobinson666

4 жыл бұрын

This camera is a massive upgrade over the R in every single way.

@schlafmonsta

4 жыл бұрын

Single reason to Upgrade? Easy. It has a joystick. To be honest you Can get this from other Systems for a lot less money.

@walkwithme_

4 жыл бұрын

In terms of video, you can consider the R5 a non-cropped 4K EOS R.

Great video guys... love the unbiased reviews.

And here I am with 37 celsius and 29 during the night 😂. Great video! I love that you were clear and didn’t hold back on the overheating issues.

Can't wait for A7SIII review by you guys!

How does one actually get an R5? I'm still waiting on my multiple orders from the beginning of august.

@vlcheish

3 жыл бұрын

Simple. Cancel your orders. Go to the bank, take out a $50,000 loan and head down to your local Audi dealer.

Excellent video. I got my R5 yesterday and I experienced similar results. Being mainly a photographer this camera is amazing. I hope that some firmware will solve overheating since the camera never feels hot when the warning appears. But maybe it will be a recall if the thermo-sensor is the culprit here

@cbflazaro

4 жыл бұрын

that's part of the problem. the camera seals the heat inside, hence why takes 2 hours to "cool down" back to get the same recording times as a fresh cold one. Sony uses the body/shell as a heatsink, so even on modes where it can potentially overheat (like on top of a black plastic trampoline at 30+C ), the camera was ready to film another 30min after 2-3 min cooling down by a fan.

@SteveP_2426

4 жыл бұрын

@@cbflazaro Yawn!

@Xirtamu2b

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsysays It has not for those video settings. Anything 4K 30 FPS or less does not overheat but anything above that does albeit a bit longer recording before it overheats. 1080P even at 120 FPS does not overheat. And the best finding of all is how to get rid of the false overheat when doing photography. For some reason, if you memorize an overheating mode on the video C3 setting, then you will get false warnings of overheating even if all you are doing is taking photos. That was the part that annoyed me the most as I am not much of a video person. I plan to use it this year in 4K 30 FPS and see how it goes. The other good new is that if you are more of a video than photo then the R5C is the camera for you as that one does not ever overheat and they kept the price extremely reasonable. Hope this helps answer your question

@DriveCancelDC

Жыл бұрын

@@cbflazaro FW updates have fixed overheating as of mid 2022. Very happy with the 8k recording.

Great video, thanks for the review.

I am from India and when I switch on my air condition in my room I keep it at 27 degrees celcius and I have to take a thin blanket because it's cold for me.

@xmlthegreat

4 жыл бұрын

Hahah true brother, often people in my house complain when the AC is at 22°C that it's too cold. 35°C is an average here.

@kiwimike2330

4 жыл бұрын

My guess is that run times in the r5 don’t depend much on ambient temp, and it’s the sensor or processor that overheat internally, hence the super long cool down times.

@mikldude9376

4 жыл бұрын

@@kiwimike2330 Probably true up to a point mate , but being already at a warmish ambient temperature probably will not help its use case , no doubt this camera will be more suited to cooler regions or just a lighter load use case in warmer climates or following winter around .

27 degrees....nice weather conditions. Yesterday we had 38 degrees...in Germany.😉 Nice review bunt the price isn‘t affordable.

@karolykrausz5534

4 жыл бұрын

Yeeaaahh Germany. Grüße aus Frankfurt am Main mit 36 Grad Celsius.

@bioliv1

4 жыл бұрын

What! With all those wind turbines you Germans put up in pristine Norwegian nature, I thought they were blowing enough cold air down to you: christinafjeldavlino.home.blog/2020/07/19/gegenwind-norwegen/

@splashmaster2000

4 жыл бұрын

It's effectively a 5D, what makes you think they would price it any lower? It's perfectly affordable for everyone who needs it.

I'm not a Cannon shooter myself but you gotta give it to them for pushing the boundaries. Cannon should've marketed this more for the photographers. Seems like they've really hit a home run on that front.

Love you guys. A very good review + some entertainment :)

27 degrees Celsius “hottest day”. *laughs in Australian*

@danrankin9037

4 жыл бұрын

that's a cold day in summer

@FlamecomMartian

4 жыл бұрын

That’s an igloo m8

@hioe04

4 жыл бұрын

43C Qatar

@suyashkulkarni8071

4 жыл бұрын

@@robbyjai Same goes with Indian summer

@77dris

4 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, DSI Pictures has some AMAZING video up on his channel taken in 8K (and 4K HQ). He shot all day long in 8K and didn't get any heat warnings... he lives in Australia.

That tune in the beginning... it's the same one where Jordan took a dip in the sea in the EM1III review. So that's DPReview's go-to tune when sexy things keep cool

Thanks for the video. I finally have the answers to a couple of questions no one has answered yet!

one push no more levi, so tempting

@DPReview I'm concerned with evf blackout and lag while tracking a bird in flight. Did you test this and if so what did you find?

@pianofinger

4 жыл бұрын

There is no evf lag in electronic shutter at 20 frames. I got my R5 a day early and I posted video to Facebook showing how fast the shutter is.

@TimNunyerBizniz

4 жыл бұрын

@@pianofinger Through the viewfinder at 12fps is what I'm talking about :)

@pianofinger

4 жыл бұрын

Tim C I just tested it for you. No blackout at all

@TimNunyerBizniz

4 жыл бұрын

@@pianofinger Awesome and thank you!

5:03 the DR is excellent for its class! Who needs raw! 12:54 The warm golden lively Canon color! I'm definitely getting the R6. It's a hidden gem.

@ArteUltra1195

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that color reproduction is the reason why I will always stick with canon, I had the a7 mark 1 for a while (dont get me wrong, nice and compact with good dynamic range), but the colors were just dull, cold and uninspiring. Oh and the screens on sonys are horrible

@turke6663

4 жыл бұрын

hidden?

@gamerjack5612

4 жыл бұрын

@@turke6663 Because the R5's 8K and Overheating has overshadowed the R6's glory.

Honestly Jordan, it was worth it. That photo turned out beautifully!

I'm so glad i watched this, I was going to buy it for the video aspect but not now. Thank you for being honest.

The normal 4k (non-overheating) quality is actually pretty great...miles ahead of any previous Canon DSLR/mirrorless footage. The chart example vs the "HQ" mode must've been at 200%? Very few could notice the difference without a zoomed in side by side. I'm also surprised there was no mention of the 5.1k oversampled 4k you get in crop mode (at 24p, again no overheating). You guys are pretty great most of the time, but this review seems guilty of the youtuber trend of "let's put this into the mode that overheats THEN say it can't be used for serious video work." It's nonsense. I'm glad Canon gave us these modes with limitation instead of not at all.

@ryanyu5051

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

@dream3443

4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!!!!!!

@Smoothblue90

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Yes. And yes.

@klackon1

4 жыл бұрын

C Miller. But you are paying for 8k. If the 8k is virtually unusable, why didn't Canon just stay with 4k? It would still be a brilliant camera.

@lastplacemotorsport8510

4 жыл бұрын

@@klackon1 Because if they hadn't everyone would have slated it for having "4 year old technology, come on Canon, catch up!!". They've tried to be innovative and included something new that no one else in this form factor offers but with limitations, and now they're being slated for that. It just seems that Canon are damned if they do, damned if they don't!

Chris, Jordan, an excellent review as always. I am not into video. I wish Canon makes an EOS R5 with no video, just for still photography. I don't want to pay nearly $4000 for 8K video that I will never use.

@gemsandlasers269

4 жыл бұрын

Nail hit firmly on the head!

@mikkelstormhansen9733

4 жыл бұрын

This would be much better. I don't care how many frames it can record, I just want a damn camera, not a camcorder

@mbvglider

4 жыл бұрын

A mirrorless camera is basically a videocamera. It wouldn't be any cheaper without the ability to record video.

@splashmaster2000

4 жыл бұрын

Then go and buy a cheaper camera. Would you say the same thing about the 5D II, 5D III, and 5D IV? This is effectively that. It is a photo camera with video functionality and the price is perfectly reasonable for what it is - the best DSLM on the market today.

Wow! Really excited about the R5. It's still winter in OZ and my finger tips are cracking for shooting sunrise and riding my mountain bike to sunrise locations early morning. With r5, I could turn on the 8k video to help warm my hands in those cold winter mornings when the temp dropped to 2 C. :) My only complain is I would be paying that extra premium for the '8k-hand-warming-feature'. I could not care less about the video function of this camera.

Love the dry humour. So well done 👍👍👍

Great to know the photo department is outstanding. When I see those photos especially at ISO 6400, I am sold. I shoot bird/wildlife and seldom use ISO 6400 anyway. External video recording minimizing heat is also good to know. Thanks for the review.

With the announcement Canon has also indicated the times from when and under which conditions overheating can occur. I think this is fair. There is no reason to be surprised that the camera switches off under certain conditions. I wish other camera manufacturers would publish similar official numbers too.

Great review - thank you. Camera specs/performance aside, I was REALLY impressed with the audio quality throughout the review. Very present and full. Did you capture it differently for the review segments? I'm curious about lav placement, too. I've been doing more outdoor work lately and your work was really dialed in. Stay cool! :)

I have to say the R6 video (most of the video we see in the review) looks outstanding. Probably the best color and some of the finest detail I've seen on a DPReview video review.

I found a solution to DOUBLING your run time on an R5! ...buy 2

@aerob1033

4 жыл бұрын

You joke, but buying two of these would still be a great price compared to buying a single 8k RAW camera from a competing (video-centric) brand.

@khoifoto

4 жыл бұрын

Just get ice and wrap around the camera. Or carry a fridge with you.

@egran2150

4 жыл бұрын

give me some dollars to get them !!!

@chriss2295

4 жыл бұрын

aerob1033 Even with 2, you still have to wait for each to cool down. It’s a shame really because if the 4K video didn’t have overheating, it would be a workable camera.

27 is the winter temperature in Dubai 😆

Man, you both sounded like you forgot your Ritalin in this production, lol! That overheating issue must have really been a huge limiting factor for you both. Great video guys, even with the problems, thanks for the effort! Crying shame that companies feel so compelled to kick out a product that they’ll do so despite having an overheating issue!!!

Great information & perspective. Big thumbs up.

R5 is like Life on steroids: It gives you unforgettable moments in very rare occasions :)

@pooyafitness

4 жыл бұрын

Drugs*

@sabomarius128

4 жыл бұрын

@@pooyafitness Those are forgettable moments ;)

in a few month, you can use R5 as long as you want.

@Cviksi

4 жыл бұрын

Ya... as a paperweight

@ZakiQutteineh

4 жыл бұрын

Nope, the insides are insulated ... so the heat will stay inside. :D

@keima1110

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZakiQutteineh Not even Canadian -20C winter can help..

The first 5 sec deserved a like! Well done lol

Thank you for the honest review.

Looks like Canon finally made the stills-only camera that people were begging for.

@nerdMike

4 жыл бұрын

speaking of stills this is a great camera, but it's packed maybe of video features which increase the price compared to a competition where the Z7, S1R and even A7 RIV cost 1000€ less (not considering A7 iii with similar resolution at 2000€ discount). That's the real problem. It was better to create a specific video camera for video like the A7Siii with a better body for heat dissipation and heavy video use, every brand do it now (like Panasonic with S1H for example) so you can have a great still camera balanced in price compared to the competition., for photographers only. R5 is a great still camera but way too expensive compared to direct competition (stills) and not so suitable for heavy video use compared to the competition (ok, it's 8K, but you have to look at operability and result, not just specs, where A7s III is the example).

@falxonPSN

4 жыл бұрын

@@nerdMike the problem is the vast majority of buyers (me included) don't want a pure photo camera. Video is becoming more and more integral to various photography workloads. Having some video capability these days is a must, and will only increase going forward. Camera companies spend millions on market research. They know exactly what will sell.

@LCdrDerrick

4 жыл бұрын

@@nerdMike Canon buyers like Apple buyers or Starbugs customers always tolerated the massive 'douche tax' with almost every camera body in the recent years. That makes them feel elite, I guess. I see a bigger problem in the limited and also way too expensive lenses. With Sony there are at least reasonable prized slow or third party lenses from Sigma and Tamron as well as from China. Most of the customers won't be professionals but enthusiasts, which are not in the most urgent need of a 2.8 Zoom or a 1.2 prime.

I love how you think 27C is "very hot". It's 39C right now where I live. I'd love 27C.

Having over an hour of time with an atamos definitely makes the camera useful to pro film making. The rig won’t be as ultimately small as some might want, but it will still be smaller and cheaper than a c500 cinema camera. You can never have everything you want. The R5 has high mp for limited internal 8k, high frame rate 4K, and phenomenal photos, and the a7siii has phenomenal 4K capabilities, but exceedingly limited photography purposes. You have to take the good with the bad. Nothing is yet perfect.

No dual-mic input... Ok, well, they have these brand-new just invented wireless mics that have two transmitters and a receiver that allows two mics to connect to a single mic input through the receiver... Boom - two people recorded on a single mic input. Jordan didn't mention that along with the standard 4k (non-oversampled) video you have available, to avoid overheating, the APS-C crop-mode and although you introduce a 1.6x crop (less than the EOS R) it does give you oversampled 4k from 5.1K video for more of that HQ look. Thanks for talking about rolling-shutter. Some other reviewers I think assumed the R5 would have it because other Canon sensors do and stated the R5 "has plenty of it!" Thanks for the video. Appreciate all the insights! I do hope Canon improves on the things through firmware like the Log formats, 29:59 limit, overheating controls (I think some of the issue is how conservative they are), heat management when externally recording, FHD 120p, and some lower bandwidth codecs if you want to balance recording space and quality a little more.

@TheMacronical

4 жыл бұрын

I completely agree. Why noone has tested the APS-C beyond me! They're acting like it's not there and that's a serious disservice the KZread community generally is offering here IMO. Heck, I'm sure Canon can even release a 5k Raw feature when in APS-C mode through firmware. That is what the sensor is reading out of course.

The R6 was pulsing back and forth... In the background was it ?? Or is it just me ?

@77dris

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't see it. Must be you.

@anandlakkaraju6825

4 жыл бұрын

@@77dris please see time stamps between 1:15- 1:25, and between 9:20-9:26 , there's a definite wobble

@ChrispyArt

4 жыл бұрын

Anand Lakkaraju true, chris and the Chart

@skumkaninen

4 жыл бұрын

No you are right, its very easy to notice. Just look at the sign in the beginning too, in and out of focus.

@anandlakkaraju6825

4 жыл бұрын

@@skumkaninen ohh is it

I wont be getting the R5 because I taken lots of shots of bears in ceilings :)

Great video. Thanks for the realistic review.

I stumbled upon the «Tornado EOS» utility program for Canon cameras. It's quite cool and easy to use.

I'm up for a stills comparison between the R5 and A7R4. A7R4 with the 135mm F/1.8 and R5 with the RF 85mm F/1.2. Which can produce the most detailed attractive stills?

This thing would catch fire in a minute where I live (middle east), were averaging 45 C° 😂😂😂 No bueno for outdoor video, but great for stills

@77dris

4 жыл бұрын

Check out Dan Watson's youtube channel. In extreme hot (40c +) temps, the R5 actually outlasts the A7SIII shooting 4K.

@HappyHubris

4 жыл бұрын

@@77dris Dan Watson's test was in low temp limit mode and should be thrown out.

@R0XyM0h

4 жыл бұрын

@@HappyHubris he redid the test and the a7siii died even in the high mode before the canon , so good luck with that

@VoidedVisuals

4 жыл бұрын

reem 94 that’s because he was using the h264 codec all the other reviewers haven’t had problems with it over heating and the cool down rate for you to shoot again is super short compared to canon but yeah the other codecs people weren’t having over heating problems what so ever.

Awesome review guys! i do have a question for you guys because i just picked up my own R5 and i found when i used the magnify/zoom at 15x when shooting it almost looked like there was dust on the sensor of some sort. I tried this with multiple lens and i want to say the specs are consistent across the the lenses. I used a rocket air a few times and its still appearing, the specs however dont appear in the photos. Im puzzled if its something wrong with the sensor or if its normal.

Jordan - it was totally worth it, at least from a viewer’s perspective.

Everyone will be commenting on that 27C being the hottest day instead of the real problems of R5 lmfao

@kiwimike2330

4 жыл бұрын

Here comes @Paul Jones with alternative “facts”

@zegzbrutal

4 жыл бұрын

@@kiwimike2330 it is. Check other channels, A7S3 will overheat as well

@oneeyedphotographer

4 жыл бұрын

@@kiwimike2330 He's right about the Sony overheating. At least one of my Panasonic G series can overheat too, I think 4K50/60 does it.

@kiwimike2330

4 жыл бұрын

Camera fails during torture test designed to make camera overheat, is not an overheating problem. When cameras overheat indoors in air conditioning during regular use, then that’s an overheating problem.

@zegzbrutal

4 жыл бұрын

@@kiwimike2330 Sony claim A7S3 never overheats. And now it has proven wrong. Canon is at least be honest about it.

27 Celsius is 80 Fahrenheit so like a nice day here in Texas lol

@tmpm441

4 жыл бұрын

Josh Holladay you mean a « nice morning »

Where can we find the video stills comparison you showed between R6 and R5? I found the tool but none of the cameras above were selectable. Thank you for the great review by the way!

Awesome work! Am I missing something or where do I find the Canon R5 in the Video Stills Comparison tool? 🧐

imagine here in Greece... at 40c !

@tylerkatsura6864

4 жыл бұрын

John Spirou So sorry man, 25c for Hawaii is hot. But I really can’t imagine 40c with humidity would be like if it was here.

@aamirjaffar111

4 жыл бұрын

And we here in middle East can fare upto 50 degrees. It will not even turn on I guess. 🤔

4:31 i

"hottest week ever"......boys, come and see me in Australia later this year ;) Great video!! love your reviews,, you helped me decided to by my Lumix GX8 years ago.

The sound of you speaking sound excellent! May I ask what you used to record the audio? A Rode Video Mic on the R6 or external mics? Thanks for your insights into all these new cameras and features!

@thatjordandrake

4 жыл бұрын

This was recorded straight into the R6 with as Rode Wireless Go kit. A Rode Go Lavalier is taped under, Chris' shirt.

My thermostat is set at 28C....

With all that being said I think im happy with my Z7, I don't shoot video or sports so for a lot less money the files are probably pretty comparable if not a touch better on the Z7 but on the whole not noticeable. Wish Nikon would bring out some more lenses though that is starting to annoy me a touch.

@ilmatanela1816

4 жыл бұрын

For those who are not into video stuff, I think Nikon Z series are probably the best choice. Great ergonomics and build quality, great lenses, amazing files. I only wish the investment for switching from DSLR to ML wasn't so heavy. By now I stay with my D700/750 combo, they still give me beautiful images.

@moealyasini2784

4 жыл бұрын

Coming from D850 & the Z7/Z6 myself.. the R5 blows the Z7 out of the water.. the AF is super fast and always accurate (unlike my Z7 shots 50% out if focus in any moving subject kinda shoot such as portraits etc..) the z7 has better dynamic range but that’s about it.. i was tired of waiting for exciting lenses or even a any pro lens longer than 85mm (specially 70-200). IBIS is much much better on R5 and just the handling/grip is much more comfy. Overall the R5 is a superior camera and worth every penny unlike the Z7 release price of $3400.. the Z7 is worth $2500 max. Still got great shots with Nikon and will always remember my D850 but it’s time to move on for better system

@tallaganda83

4 жыл бұрын

Moe Alyasini I shoot purely landscapes, I’ve played with the Canon raw files. They don’t blow me away. Similar to Nikon if anything a bit less dynamic range and sharpness when zoomed right in maybe the AA filter not sure. It’s fine for me I have it already it works. Don’t get stuck on the endless cycle of GAS all the other systems will catch up and exceed Canon then Canon will do the same again. Always has been always will be the case. Stay calm.

@moealyasini2784

4 жыл бұрын

tallaganda83 a landscape photographer is the least interested in features such as Reliable Auto focus or IBIS! when 50% of your photos are out of focus what good is dynamic range?? Do I miss the dynamic range sometimes ? Sure but not with R5 cuz it’s got comparable dynamic range (tip: go watch the newest comparison Toni did with sony a7r4 etc.. you will see it’s actually on par. So that gap you are talking about is gone and i am not sure what raw files you tried !?) I was a Nikon shooter for many years.. dont you think i would have stayed with Nikon and kept 10s of thousands of dollars in gear and lenses ? I bought the Eos R For fun and realized that even that mediocre camera had better AF than Nikon’s “pro” z7 so I made the decision knowing that they’re going to come up with a pro body just like the R5 now. Let’s not be fan boys and give credit when it’s due man! I am a paid portrait and fashion photographer and I cant afford having issues with my Af or not have a pro glass collection “70-200 f2.8” etc.. Nikon is behind just like Sony felt behind when the R5 came out so they came out with a great “video only” camera and soon you will see the release of the a7 mark4 to keep people from moving to canon

@tallaganda83

4 жыл бұрын

Moe Alyasini Are you serious? The autofocus isn’t that bad holy crap😂 I focus stack in camera anyway so I’m definitely not missing focus. Half the time I just manual focus using peaking or focus assist anyway. The ibis is fine on the Z7 too. There is not a noticeable difference. Obviously you love your new toy but just go and shoot the bloody thing and get off KZread.

Nice review but does the heif format reduce overheating compared with raw for stills ?

Few questions please: 1. Where can I find the video stills comparison as shown in this video? Are the video stills zoomed in at 100% or 200%? 2. Is the 4k24 SQ that bad? Tony Northrup said it was garbage and Jordan said it was bad. However Armando Ferreira seemed ok with it. Of course 4k24 SQ is worse than 4k24 HQ but how is it compared to other cameras’ 4k24 SQ (or non oversampled 4k)? 3. How’s the battery life?

@Davitor1

4 жыл бұрын

Tony did NOT say it was garbage. He just indicated it was not as sharp zoomed in. Big difference.

Canon has put out a wonderful high-resolution small camera with excellent weather sealing and no internal fan. Obviously, they had the needs and preferences of the professional still photographer foremost in mind, at the expense of the professional videographer. With this trade-off in mind, it appears they've released a state-of-the-art still camera with a nod the videographic community. Why professional videographer's are so irritated with RF5/RF6 release, mystifies me. The R5/R6 isn't the camera for them. I can live with that.

8K in R5 is a step forward for mirrorless hybrid. You can get it and work around its limitations to produce a great image. Or you can get a7s3 which still won't have 8K and not nearly as good a photo camera as r5. If you need FF 8K internal RAW and can't invest in a RED or bigger cameras, R5 is a killer deal honestly. Just learn to work around its limitations and stop cribbing. You are not going to record interviews and review vlogs on 8K.

@andrescarrasco1248

4 жыл бұрын

It's not the tool, it's the professional, but at the same time if you are a professional you can't have a tool that limits you that bad

@nikhilchandra9258

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrescarrasco1248 have you used the camera? Or you are just taking someone's words? You want to shoot 8K seamlessly for hours, buy a Red Helium. 8-10 minutes of 8K FF internal RAW is good enough to shoot a take, And move on to next.

@nikhilchandra9258

4 жыл бұрын

@@bosstowndynamics5488 R5 is an extremely positive step in FF hybrid segment and it will find its users. At this time, budget filmmakers have moved on to Blackmagic or Canon c300s or sony f7 etc. This is the first camera that can give them a serious competition and not just a B Cam. Even if its recording 10 minutes of 8K in a go.

@nikhilchandra9258

4 жыл бұрын

@@DavCro exactly my point is. If you are shooting more than few minutes of 8K RAW internally, you are doing something wrong. This is a niche feature mostly for cinema purposes. And if the 8K quality on R5 is good enough, this is going to be a killer.

@nikhilchandra9258

4 жыл бұрын

@@bosstowndynamics5488 big productions don't shoot on R5 and A7 and S1... Thry have cinema cameras. Most Small productions now rent 2nd tier cinema cameras such as c300 or F7 or Red. This camera does not overheats in normal 4K unless you are shooting 120 fps or hq. At that rate any small camera will overheat including the a7s3 which is reportedly getting overheated faster than R5! We have a7s2 at our facility and it overheats outdoors as well and limited color depth on files. We work around it. The problem with R5 is that it offers so much right now that its user base isn't defined. Who this camera is for? I guess with time it will find its base and work seamlessly. But at this price point, in a small hybrid body, any camera will overheat at certain bit rate. Its not so much an issue as it is the nature of the small hybrid mirrorless body.

hey bud. nice review. So installing a external monitor will get rid of the over heating for filming in 4k 120p?

As a stills photographer, this video is very helpful. I would really LOVE to see a video where you compared the image quality, sharpness and Human/Animal Eye AF to the SONY A7R IV which seems to be the closest competitor from the photography perspective

@tolickal

4 жыл бұрын

I’m also waiting for the same to make a decision b/w these two. Don’t care about video

@Davitor1

4 жыл бұрын

Jared Polin already has a couple of test showing how fast in can track an Human/Animal. He is stating that is even faster than the A9.

@5:00 is a masterpiece

Canon r5: Great stills camera Decent video camera Overheating MACHINE!!! Poor battery life BUT.... all jokes aside a great camera overall

Who knew this video would teach half of KZread that different countries and hemispheres have different climates.

Great review guys thanks!👍please, we need a review with the latest and greatest full frame cameras. Ups forget that Nikon brought out a cheap full frame😎😩😜

Most of the comments gonna be about 27C

27 degrees Centigrade = 286 Farenheit 😂🤣

@jlwilliams

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but how much in Nocts?

Last fall I sold my huge Nikon kit, D5 and 9 prime fast lenses and 3 speedlights and one zoom: 200-500, all of it, gone on eBay in a few weeks. I bought a Sony A7R4, 24 mm f/1.4 GM, 85 f/1.4 GM + 135 f/1.8 GM. Profoto A1X flash, love, RRS plate for camera, etc. etc. Now I can pretty much carry the whole kit and kaboodle, where with Nikon, much of the kit stayed at home. Now, I loved my D5. But when I bought that camera, I did have my finger in the wind, and I looked at Sony, not really knowing the acronyms on various bits of glass, and I don't think any GM lenses at that point, and not my go-to primes. So I bought the D5. (Prior cameras: D200, D700, Df) Last fall when the A7R4 was announced, I followed the industry, and decided I could not hold onto my Nikon gear much longer. Sony now had the glass I wanted. Canon, same deal. Canon, you don't have the glass. The only glass I see is that RF 85 f/1.2. Give me RF 24 f/1.2 Give me RF 135 f/1.2 and I will sell my teeth to move to Canon. I have zero interest in zoom lenses. I'm a prime shooter.

Great review, saw one pro photographer say that when overheating happened his camera was really still cool, so wondered if the warning is set very conservatively

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

me too, so I asked Gerald Undone about that and he said the camera does feel warm to the touch when overheat warning appears. Maybe some have colder hands than others? 🤔

@Bolton115

4 жыл бұрын

I think what's happening is that the plastic case of the camera acts like a blanket, keeping all that 8K processing waste heat inside the camera, which is why the cooldown times are so long. In contrast, the Fuji X-T4 can overheat in its highest spec video modes-but it also cools right down again and is totally usable in 10 minutes, because it's got all those metal surfaces to sink the heat to the outside. I've never been able to get my X-H1 to overheat.

@TJIzzy

4 жыл бұрын

I have an R5 and if you record 8k or 4k hq non stop, the back will get a little warm, but not too much. Then that goes away quickly, but you get a overheat warning and the camera will be cold to the touch. Basically, in an hour window, you can record around 35min of video until it needs hours to fully reset.