Canon 10-18mm Vs. Nikkor 10-20mm Shootout (With Wide Angle Photography Tips)
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The Canon 10-18mm F4.5-5.6 is legendarily sharp, inexpensive lens. Nikon has just joined the budget wide angle fray with the Nikkor 10-20mm F4.5-5.6. The Camera Store's Chris Niccolls took both lenses to Banff to compare both options, and offer some advice for photographers new to wide angle photography.
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As a long time ultra wide angle lens fanatic, I'd like to offer some advice that I find really helps: Treat UWA lenses in a similar way to how you would treat a fast prime wide open, only instead of isolating your subject in focus, you are isolating the subject in space. Don't try to capture an entire scene like a panorama, that will just look flat, lifeless and boring. Find a subject for your photo, like a tree, stone, fence post, and use the wide lens to push everything else in the image way back.
@j-man72b72
6 жыл бұрын
I'll add to that, use leading lines to help lead the eye through the frame, and have subjects at different distances at the power points for the rule of thirds. If you find UWA intimidating, force yourself to use it as much as you can, emulate what others have done, and most importantly, experiment like crazy, eventually you'll train your eye and it will become a lens that is fun to shoot. I love my Voigtlander 15III.
@Papafou
6 жыл бұрын
Great advice
You're probably my favorite youtube personality when it comes to photography videos. The videos on many other channels come off as either conceited, condescending, or completely jaded. Keep up the good work!
@RichardsWorld
6 жыл бұрын
Kevan B Are you talking about Jared? 😀😀😀
Yes, more APS-C lens head-to-head/reviews, please!
Can’t wait for the annual best and worst video!
@a.m.creativ
6 жыл бұрын
This year should be extra special!
@alexanderverdoodt
6 жыл бұрын
I wasn't thinking about that, until you mentioned it, now I can't wait.
@opalyankaBG
6 жыл бұрын
OMG, is it that time of the year again? Time flies so fast...
@FinalLugiaGuardian
6 жыл бұрын
My predictions: best dslr is the Nikon d850 and the best mirrorless interchangeable lens camera is the Panasonic gh5.
@1BigBucks1
6 жыл бұрын
Drunk Jordan 😆
I have been hoping for this video from you guys since I bought my 10-18 a few months ago. Thank you so much.
I just have to say, I love your videos! Most camera review videos are either cheesy or too technical. I feel yours are informative and I don't feel intimidated by the lingo. Thanks so much for posting!!
Very pleasant, relaxing and informative review. Great stuff!
Great comparison and lovely pictures! You got the eye Chris!
45 seconds in and I have to say it - gorgeous scenery! Awesome video work as well Jordan. And to Chris, great photo at 11:30, reminded me of the Overlook Hotel from The Shining
Great comparison Chris! Excellent down-to-earth explanation of the visual effects of using wide-angle lenses. Sounds like the howling 10 degree winds of the New York City canyons pale in comparison to Alberta. Great review! Thank you.
Very nice video and incredible shots!!!
Really enjoyed this open and honest review, will subscribe definitely 👍🏻
Great one Chris, made my day.
Your channel is always super fun to watch :)
Excellent video and it has swayed my decision on whether to buy the Canon lens - now ordered. Thank you
Great Video. Love this style of shoot out. I have the canon 10-18 on my 700D and i love the portability and quality for the low price. My favourite lens at the moment.
Canon EF-S 10-18mm IS STM gave me a several great shots, clear choice in price-performance ratio.
What a perfect timing, I just ordered Pentax 15-30 and will be shooting a ton of wide shots soon :)
Very informative, great video. Thank you!
Great Video, from a 10-18 owner, in The Bahamas :)
Great review as usual.. Love you guys. I am actually using the 10-18mm adapted to a Sony a6000 the auto focus isn't great, but with the focus peaking it works pretty well as a lightweight fourth camera setup that is super cheap and extremely lightweight.
Holy crap, perfect timing, just got the canon wide angle! And I must say, when it comes to these lens it’s AAAAAAALL about a singular subject!, fully pulled in and a loud single subject! 😀
@AnandaGarden
6 жыл бұрын
Amen, brother. A good photo is about one thing. It's the beauty and the fun of using ultrawides, very satisfying to make a single interesting person or object the main subject and include however much of the background you want. Playing with space.
The EF-S Canon 10-18 is one of the main reasons I still keep my T3i around. It's great for run and gun landscapes. Simple inexpensive kit I can toss in the center console of my car and grab a shot if I see something cool while out driving. I've heard it's a great vlogging lens too.
Excellent review of these lenses. Made my decision far more simple.
When I opted for the Canon 80D vs. going with the 6D mkII this year, I added the 10-18mm to my kit, and while it might feel a bit embarrassing in the hand, it performs quite well on the camera.
I have the Canon 10-22mm and it's an excellent lens to have taking pictures of wide vistas. I'm mostly concerned about the linearity of the horizon when shooting and have to adjust position to make sure the horizon is straight otherwise the image will be distorted. Great video. I didn't notice any vignetting which wide angle lenses usually have
Great review and point on metering. I have found I need to push my exposure to a full step over.
awesome stuff guys
Thank you for this review, How did you like that Canon SL2 as a small travel option?
I live in a wide open water view modest cabin home. I walked out back after getting this Nikon 10mm to 20mm lens which was cheap used. It was mint condition and I paired it with the Nikon D5300 my twin had given me...keeping in mind I do have a Sony A73 with 4 lenses for photography. I took that Nikon D5300 out back during a brilliant sunset, pinks, purples and sun rays. IT KILLED IT! I am part of a photography group online where most of them have all the expensive gear...they flipped out over my pictures I have been posting with that lens! I have photos published in a book I took with the Nikkor 70m to 300mm lens on that camera. People are painting some of my photographs! I took a crystal clear landscape style photo of a marina in bright sun with zero issues not a single area had any less then perfect focus...I was shocked! I could sell that so easily!! It is gorgeous! Its not just your gear but the photographer behind it. Knowing how to get the most out of our lenses we can afford. Not everyone can replace cameras or buy these brand new $2,000 lenses today...I encourage others to take another look at used gear that may set them up with better work and once they can save up, then get the best if that is what they can manage later. So to summarize, my experience is yes on only low light but if you see good colors it will perform with your other settings done correctly.
Good to hear about the 10-18mm from canon I have been considering getting this lens for a while for my 1300D and after watching your video I think it will be great for the system, as I don't want to spend much on this system I own. My money is going into my Hasselblad setup for my large print work, this canon is more of a travel and scouting camera :)
loved your video!
Thank you for this informatic video
Great wide angle comments! I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Panasonic 8-18mm zoom, which is pricier, but fits into this category.
would the canon 10-18 lens work well for nightclub photography? i know the aperture is poor for it but i often shoot at f5.6 on my kit lens but I'm having to shoot full body portrait at close range but i worry about barrel distortion at 10mm, is there any advice on if i should get this lens and if so for the reasons i just said, how do i deal with these issues?
Thanks so much I was going to buy the Nikon lens for my d5100, shop said it would be fine. Lucky I came across your video. Many Thanks.
Great video, I am thinking about pulling the trigger on this Nikon 10-20mm. Can anyone please clarify something for me. I have just updated the firmware to version 1.02 on my Nikon d3300. Would I be right in assuming that the option for Optical VR On/Off will only appear in the shooting menu when this lens is connected?
Could you guys make a scathing video about the 29 minute recording limit? I want to see a compact camera in 2018 without that limit.
I just going to buy a wide angle for my D5500, how do you compare the Nikkor 10-20 with the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8?
Having just bought a Canon 10-18mm for my Canon 200D, I can not be more pleased with this video. :D
Chris, hate to ask but what brand are those awesome winter gloves you are wearing? Thanks.
lot of beautiful shots.
Would've liked to see the comparisons side by side. It would make your videos so much better. All best.
is Nikkor 10-20mm focus well with nikon D5200 ? please help me regarding this focusing issue
I have d5200 camera,it is suitable to use wide angle lens, which one best.
hello bro.. which camera bodies did u use here to campare those two lenses canon and nikon?? reply me please.. i need to know the camera model of canon and nikon
Considering the Tokina 11-20 pro DXii is double the price but has lesser distortion and is wide open throughout at 2.8… would you say it is worth? Built quality and astrophotography being my major concerns
Very enjoyable. Fuji does make the 10-24 (15-36 equivalent). I find ultrawides incredibly useful indoors in tight spaces - of course real estate agents love them, but for my purposes they're wonderful also for shooting music rehearsals, shooting crowds and exhibitors at indoor art and craft shows, and for shooting in school classrooms, where you can frame a nice close-up of a child at work or interacting with a teacher (not too close to the edges of the frame!), and still show the surrounding environment.
Hi Guys, Thanks for the great review! I am considering the Nikon version. Just wondering if you can recommend a good apsc wide angle for astrophotography? (Nikon mount) I have seen good reviews re the Rokinon 16mm f2, wondering if the 14mm or 12mm work well? Cheers, enjoy your videos!
Is the Nikon 10-20 lens compatible with a full-frame camera, and can we photograph people with it?
Good video review- you have a very pleasant personality
How does this compare to the Samyang 12mm and 14mm lenses?
Hey. I have Nikon D3300. I am doubting between TOKINA 11-16mm vs NIKON Nikkor 10-20mm. I need it for landscapes and real state shootings. And second question. Tokina is 104° and Nikon Nikkor is 109° is that 5° alot or not for small spaces? Sorry for my english. I want to buy best for hiking and open spaces (mountains) and for shooting apartments. Thank you! (Explain please difference if you know this new Nikon nikkor lenses!? Will tokina have automatic focus on my camera d3300 and will it have automatic focus on this nikon 10-20mm nikkor? Thank you so much keep good work!
@TheCameraStoreTV will you make a rev about the sony alpha 9 ?
You can turn the Nikon VR stabilization off through the camera. There is a setting for that in the camera menu.
link to the gloves you are wearing please?
I loved the video comparing these two lens. I use a Canon 90d and of course the Canon 10-18mm. Have not shot a lot with it yet, but i will go to a village soon here in Honduras to hopefully get some good shots. I will post them soon. What mode were you shooting in? Manual or AV? I shoot in AV mode, because i am not yet fast enough or knowledgeable enough to go full manual.
You have a fear if wide angle yet your shots turned out much better than usual :D
Canada is so beautiful, I don't think I've ever wanted to travel somewhere more in my life
@bodkinsbestphotography
6 жыл бұрын
The grass on the other side of the fence is always greener.
@oasisbeyond
6 жыл бұрын
Come shovel snow for me.
please do review comparing Sigma 100-400mm and Tamron 100-400mm, thanks
Concerning those two millimeters: Crop factors. Canon: 1,6. Nikon 1,5. So: Canon 16-29, Nikon 15-30. 1mm in both ends for Nikon. Sincerely, a Nikon guy. B)
@oasisbeyond
6 жыл бұрын
Still less sharp :) Sincerely a Camera guy.
@laszu7137
6 жыл бұрын
Canon also has 10-22mm lens. The 10-18 is more popular because of it's small size.
@IslandStone_
6 жыл бұрын
Crop factors? Are these lenses not APS-C?
@TomVestvik
6 жыл бұрын
Walaker Canon got slightly smaller aps-c sensors than Nikon and the others.
@IslandStone_
6 жыл бұрын
Tom Vestvik yes, I know, but why did you mention it? Are these lenses not made for APS-C? ;)
Please, do a review comparing the Canon 55-250mm STM vs Nikkor 55-200mm VR II too... Please, please!
I use the Canon lens and it's great despite being cheap as chips - sad that Nikon have closed out users of older/ cheaper cameras AGAIN this from the company that was once proud that all Nikon glass would fit the F mount... Nikon user since 1977.....
Still hanging onto my old Olympus E-1 for your old camera review.
D7200 can use this lense ?
super video, maybe a sigma/tamron in the mix would have been excelent! but since I have nikon, now I know the good and the bad about that lense! Thanks!!
Was that nikon picture (the one comparing sharpness) taken with VR on or off? I find that the VR on the AF-P 18-55mm reduces the sharpness of the image and only has the benefit of less camera shake at slower shutter speeds. I turn VR off when shooting during adequate lighting, it's noticeably sharper when off. Perhaps the same with the 10-20mm? This strange behavior doesn't apply to the af-p 70-300mm though.
@toddysurcharge771
6 жыл бұрын
well realistically VR only impacts image quality when A) you are using a tripod or B) are using a high shutter speed. Because if there is proper compensation already for hand shake like those two would.....then the VR tech tries to compensate anyway and actually causes shake on it's own (or something along those lines)
Is the nikon 10-20 a replacement of the 10-24?
@RobertoPavan
6 жыл бұрын
No. The 10-24 is MUCH more expensive.
Hello Jordan how are you? I'm curious what kind of Wireless lapel Chris is using here, in the opening shots I heard some hiss at times which is unusual. I ask because I've reviewed a very affordable good sounding one on my channel recently and I'm trying to see the differences between high end and consumer-grade models. Also I think a fun idea for an episode would be for you and Chris do a head-to-head competition with photography and video. you both might realize you know more than you give yourself credit for each other's discipline. Now let me get back to watching this episode. Peace
What about Fuji XF 10-24mm f/4 with X-T2?
I’ve been using the 10-18 it’s a lot of fun
I struggle with wide angle too. I just don't see it the way I do like a 50 or 85mm for some reason and I can't find the photo in the scene.
Exemplary job. Thank you!
great stuff
Thumb up for the Canon 10-18/f4.5-5.6 STM on Sony A6000 via Commlite EF-S to NEX adapter. A winner!
great video but I can't stop notice this awful ibis wobbly stabilization - is _this_ a standard now?
How is the Canon EF-S 10-22 compare in sharpness to the 10-18. I really enjoyed the 10-22 ten years ago & found it was the only EF-S lens that was worth a damn. Pretty sad Canon doesn't make L worthy glass for APSC.
@mike969696
2 жыл бұрын
The cheaper 10-18 is sharper.
would like to see a Leica CL vs Fuji X-E3 comparison.
Very good lens review. I would like to hear more about lens saturation and micro-contrast, in addition to sharpness.:-)
I would like to use the 10 - 18 for vlogging
Could you please confirm if AF-P lenses doesn't Auto-Focus on D5200? As I have seen some review where its said that this lens works perfectly on D5200 post the firmware update.
@mattscott573
4 жыл бұрын
It auto-focuses fine. The only thing you can't do is turn the VR off or override the AF to manual focus it yourself. Apart from that it works as normal, as long as the firmware is up to date.
@mike969696
2 жыл бұрын
He got that wrong.
Just got the Canon! Great lens. Sensible filter size.
I am a Nikon user and have the 10-20mm lens. It takes very clear photos, especially on a sunny day. Like any wide angle lens they are designed to capture a lot so you need to use a large dof. You will get the best images especially landscape at between f8-f16. Also you need your camera set to matrix metering not spot or centre weighted. Get your camera settings correct and you will be able to take some amazingly clear and beautiful photos. With so many reviews I see, this one is an exception, people say this lens is crap or that lens is crap, focusing is not good, etc, etc. A lot of times they just have not set the camera correctly for the lens and subject that they are trying to photograph. I can also get some amazingly good photos with my kit lens that I still have the 18-55mm. Get your settings correct and you will get good clear photos with most modern lenses these days.
Pentax has the Jun Hirakawa wonderfully designed 10-17. You should have at least mentioned it at the end.
when one is better canon 10-18 or the tamron 10-24 please let me know
@mike969696
2 жыл бұрын
The Canon is sharper and works with in-camera corrections.
Wife has D3300 with the 3 AF-P lens kit and she uses the 10-20 most. I have a honkin Nikon rig but steal her little set whenever I can. Now that Canon sensors are catching up, I’m eyeing the SL2. I want that canon 24mm pancake - something important to me that Nikon does not have in DX. Add this 11-18 and I’m set for a handy little day rig. We may end up with both of these.... a timely segment.
The reason why I - and millions of others - still shoot Canon : the lenses. The 10-18mm is perfectly good and cheap as chips. Fuji owners have to shell out nearly a grand for the same. Yes the Fuji is better made, but the best lens is the one you can afford to buy.
@Loopsrainforest
6 жыл бұрын
You can't even compare those two lenses.
@aloi
6 жыл бұрын
Loopsrainforest Why not? They're both the cheapest options on each system for a ultra wide zoom. Is there a cheaper Fuji lens that I missed?
@Loopsrainforest
6 жыл бұрын
Like Saurat wrote the Fuji's way more expensive with a better build quality & the Fuji is way sharper than the Canon APSC ultra wide zooms. I owned the more expensive Canon EF-S 10-24mm & really enjoyed it & would even put it at par or better the Canon 17-40 L on FF but the Fuji blows them away & I really wanted to hate it. Its not weather resistant & its not a 2.8. My plan was to stick with primes but the images I kept seeing from that lens blew me away so I ended up buying it in the end & its pretty great.
@loudpanzer
6 жыл бұрын
Fujinon lenses have been around nearly as long as canon, they have been making Cine lenses that cost nearly as much as a house for many years before they started making mirrorless prosumer cameras. I feel like their X-mount system has some of that legacy behind it. I hope they put some of their IS tech into IBIS in the future.
@bradl2636
3 жыл бұрын
Buy F Mount lenses and even if you change 35mm systems your lenses are not automatically obsoleted. That’s a vast and valuable real option value there.
I think you should have mentioned the 10-18f4 Sony , its sure not cheap. Atleast f4 though. And , AS af isnt all that important with mirrorless and wideangle, the samyang 12mm f2 is really worth mention ing. Fixed at that angle is a versatility concern and 2mm matter, but ID take that lowlight ultrawide any day over these2
Where is this scenario?
hey...please review the olypmus omd em10 mark iii...pleaaaase chris
Ultra Wide lens is great for indoor use like in museums and so on, but I too have a hard time using one outdoors unless I just happen to be in an awesome place with nothing but beauty in every inch of the scene. Otherwise, I end up with the subject appearing too far away or something ugly/out of place in the scene. If possible, being closer to the subject certainly helps. I do like to have a very wide zoom available for certain scenes, but I honestly don't use it that much.
@toddysurcharge771
6 жыл бұрын
When I was in Mountains of Tennessee...I used a 70-200 f2.8 and shot 6 images that I combined into a panorama.....it allows you to keep the size scale properly and increase the overall resolution. Wide angle to me is more for beach sunsets/sunrises and architecture.
10-18mm is not very good against bright light - that green flare has ruined many of my shots. When shooting towards Sun, I always switch to 18-135, which handles it much better.
I have the Canon one, is it normal that these wide lenses are noticeable softer at the edges?
@TheCameraStoreTV
6 жыл бұрын
+Zairon Absolutely if you shoot them wide open. Stop them down to F8 for nicer corners.
@TechnicalGamingChannel
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's pretty typical that cheaper lens have soft edges. Even expensive lenses have similar issues.
@MikedieONE
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah even more expensive UWA lenses have that issue wide open. There are only a few exceptions like the Canon 11-24 mm / F 4,0 EF L USM... but that thing cost a fortune.
@AnandaGarden
6 жыл бұрын
Not with the Canon 10-18. It's optically very good, and any slight softness can be corrected in post.
@TechnicalGamingChannel
6 жыл бұрын
the 10-18 is acceptably sharp at the edges, it's still not as good as a better lens
Cheap Fuji Lens, something like a 10-18 XC 4.5-6.3? Would be cool, yes. But first V2 of the 10-24 f4 please with WR and a aperture ring with hard stops.
Oly has the 9-18mm for m43. One of the most compact wide zooms on the market. Definitely has some shortcomings as far as optical quality, but it is in the category you're talking about. Perhaps it's not quite wide enough though to throw in with these guys.
@mike969696
2 жыл бұрын
It's not cheap enough.
So, when will you get your hands on the Panasonic G9? There are european youtubers than have released videos in the camera, but all the North American channels, which I mainly follow and trust, don't seem to have seen it yet? I thought every major camera was launched in the US.
@TheCameraStoreTV
6 жыл бұрын
We’ve seen prototypes, but we’re waiting for a full production copy before shooting our field test. Jordan @ TCSTV
Don't do much wide angle photography, this video taught me a lot!
Worth mentioning is that 10mm on a Nikon 1.5 crop is going to result in a wider angle of view than 10mm on a Canon 1.6 crop. And why were all your Nikon examples so massively colour-shifted to yellow?
Whats the glove you are using?
@j-man72b72
6 жыл бұрын
www.thecamerastore.com/11549-Heat-3-Layer-System-Shell-Smart.aspx
do you mean more wide angle lens like the Fuji 10-24
@1barnet1
6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant one. 1 problem being twice as good means paying tripple the ammount of cash.