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@KingE321

Жыл бұрын

They creator himself said older kratos and the Norse gods are stronger.

@CaptainCook.

Жыл бұрын

@@KingE321yeah

@mrinal8140

9 ай бұрын

You gave Rage to Kratos, but what if Thor got enraged? When Thor first defeated Kratos in the start of Ragnarok, Thor was mentally unstable and was addicted to Wine. In the second battle where Kratos gone through all those missions and forged a new weapons as well, while Thor was doing nothing but Drinking and hanging out with Atreus. Thor (Mentally Unstable) > Old Kratos (Calm but more experienced) Thor (Mentally Stable and Enraged) >>> Young Kratos (Mentally Stable and Enraged)

@ermanbumaguin8063

5 ай бұрын

"So much more stronger" easy there goofy👌🏻

@justingary5322

4 ай бұрын

Awesome 😎

I just imagine young Kratos giving Thor that same look he gave Hercules.

@mythslegendsExplored

Жыл бұрын

Like a savage man

@samcooper1886

Жыл бұрын

@@mythslegendsExplored absolutely!

@shadow-gr4iw

Жыл бұрын

I think people mostly forget that Kratos did died by Zeus for the first time they met and was brought back from the dead to fight Zeus again. So is Kratos fought Thor for the first time Thor would have killed Kratos and it had to be brought back to life or kratos's Thor the fight again

@drorted

Жыл бұрын

@@shadow-gr4iw that was a weaker Kratos that died to zeus tho, we are talking about Kratos right after he finished off the greek pantheon, which is the same Kratos who killed zeus at that time

@SABERA78662

Жыл бұрын

Nah young kratos is straight 8 foot tall I think equal to Thor's height

Young Kratos wouldn't even sit to talk. He would start blasting on seeing his roof damaged

@dodowhisperer2114

6 ай бұрын

He would've thrown hands with balder for just knocking on his door

@gtvn2775

6 ай бұрын

@@dodowhisperer2114not only that, he would have been ripping baldur apart over and over again till he just stopped moving. Young kratos is the scariest figure in the GOW universe

@truthseeker7815

6 ай бұрын

@@gtvn2775, he was invulnerable :v

@iqbalaristima7700

6 ай бұрын

​@@truthseeker7815Still can get ripped apart, but he will definitely healed up again soon after

@cgaminganims7046

6 ай бұрын

Truly a calm and reasonable person

"Return my son or you may meet the God I once was." Even Kratos knows his younger self is destroying the Norse God's. 😂

The old kratos seems like a calm and reasonable guy

@Lowclasswarrior778

5 ай бұрын

When the moment calls for *calm*

@leviathan_is_me

7 күн бұрын

Yea... I'd say it called for calm.

Characters like younger Kratos & Doom Guy are my favorite type of character. They're just too pissed off to die

@DieEineMieze

6 ай бұрын

​@@mr.manguyfellow1591Valid point with Doom guy. It's a power fantasy, like the old god of war games. But even back then, there was more to it. A man made monster, by betrayal of the gods and eternal suffering. Everyone that played all the old games know that. And there's not even a point to argue with the new god of war games. It's nothing but reflection, trying to be a father and trying to be better.

@deathanimatins6470

6 ай бұрын

@@DieEineMiezecouldn’t have said it better myself, the main thing with being a father was the goal to not continue the cycle, of children killing their parents. Something that every Greek man knew about how kronos killed his dad and Zeus killed Kronos and Zues was killed by kratos, the cycle was not to be repeated.

@jormungandr961

5 ай бұрын

Then you would surely love guts.

@BonjourMonAmi11

5 ай бұрын

Thor got it easy fighting older Kratos, younger Kratos might have giving him they Poseidon treatment

@RestlessRebel

5 ай бұрын

Don't forget Asura

The developers have said that Kratos is at his strongest in his old age but is holding back a lot more. He's been more than a match for Thor for a long time now. I'm kindof enjoying the fact that in the new games no one knows what Kratos is capable of, so people are always shocked or confused when he is seemingly unworried about having to face off against the Norse gods. Not only is it nothing he's not already used to, but he knows that he will win since he's already killed so many powerful gods in the past.

@ghostlyswat12

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t know he’ll win he’s just ready to fight to protect himself and the ones he cares about

@aperson6888

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone who sees it properly🤝

@yeahthatistrue930

Жыл бұрын

@Ghostlyswat 12 I feel like some of the conversations we hear in the game seem to indicate that Kratos is fairly confident in his victory against the Norse gods. The only reason he hesitates or tries to avoid it is because he's trying to be better and doesn't want to repeat what happened in Greece or set a negative example for Atreus. Hence the reason he tries to avoid Ragnarok altogether.

@derrickdupre2155

Жыл бұрын

Holding back in a fight is a sign of weakness like he's stronger than Thor but because of his restraint then he allowed Thor to kill him and if it wasn't Thor bringing him back then Kratos story would've ended. Young Kratos would've soloed that pantheon and you can tell this by the moment older Kratos started to give into the rage held back in his younger days while Heimdall, he went from having problems with him to literally beating him to death.

@ghostlyswat12

Жыл бұрын

@@derrickdupre2155 I wonder if kratos actually died or if it was just him getting knocked out

Thor: Are you a calm and reasonable person? Younger Kratos: *Blade of Chaos right to the face.

The entire fight Thor wanted to see The God of War, and only leaves after enraging Kratos to hit him seriously. Thor knew the entire time that young Kratos was a much fiercer opponent.

@Jefftoucheslittlekids

5 ай бұрын

Young kratos was more dangerous but older kratos is stronger mentally and physically

@rexjrd963

5 ай бұрын

@@Jefftoucheslittlekids We both know who we'd rather run into in a dark alley.

@Jefftoucheslittlekids

5 ай бұрын

@@rexjrd963 I spoke nothing but facts

@sinjoklassie1649

29 күн бұрын

The thing is Gow4 kratos is stronger than gow1 kratos While gow2 and 3 kratos was amped asf​@@Jefftoucheslittlekids

@herke7237

11 күн бұрын

Physically old Kratos is stronger while young Kratos just has the weapons and magics of the Greek Pantheon. So if we just count Kratos' personal power and not borrowed power old Kratos is stronger​@@sinjoklassie1649

Honestly the main difference for young kratos is the weapons at his disposal. Man had a new weapon for every god killed and used it to kill the next 😂

@maitiurice

6 ай бұрын

He was spartan mega man. 😅

@FoxHound-ut1hu

5 ай бұрын

But he wouldn't have the leviathan axe which is a hard counter to Mjolnir

@cory6266

5 ай бұрын

And all the different magic he had.

@lobsterjohnson8642

5 ай бұрын

@@FoxHound-ut1hu With all the Greek weapons I don't think he'd need it tbh

@FoxHound-ut1hu

5 ай бұрын

@@lobsterjohnson8642 Really? Because the Norse weapons do so much fucking more than the Greek weapons.

Literally the young kratos killed thanatos (the embodiment of death) going in rage, if kratos let the rage take the control in a fight he can negate the entire norse pantheon

@Evankiller122

Жыл бұрын

He didn't kill him

@Evankiller122

Жыл бұрын

XD

@jsmaelsartor595

Жыл бұрын

@@Evankiller122 yes he killed him

@handycap590

Жыл бұрын

​@@Evankiller122 bro's mocking even though he's wrong

@seriously6644

Жыл бұрын

@@Evankiller122 he did… stupid award of the internet goes to you pal 🏆

Thor: I have mead Young Kratos: I have beef

Young Kratos is the definition of “Its On Sight”

The way I see old Kratos is just permanent Spartan Rage

@cipath8843

Жыл бұрын

Bro so true tho 💀

@byrondacres1370

Жыл бұрын

*young kratos but ik what u mean

@wheresmygrasses1549

Жыл бұрын

@@byrondacres1370 oh yeah my bad

@R0n17

9 ай бұрын

dude young kratos isn't always angry

@65firered

7 ай бұрын

So he is going into maximize over rage?

Thor: are you a calm and reasonable man Kratos: O

@metalsonic5669

4 ай бұрын

L3 + R3

@Divinity-of-sin

12 күн бұрын

You are gonna hit him right? .... Right? P.s red orbs

@potatoes1640

8 күн бұрын

​@@Divinity-of-sinhit him where? 😮

@Lord_Yoloraidos

5 күн бұрын

AAAAAAAH

thor would be very happy to see kratos on his prime XD

@Orcabubeog

5 ай бұрын

If you mean prime like in strength then kratos is in his prime

@satriadicky3732

5 ай бұрын

Yes, fighting the Kratos who can jump, have full vision of the entire arena, powered by the powers of the Gods and crawling out of Hades several times via sheer rage alone.

@dhearyamalde7746

3 күн бұрын

​@@Orcabubeog yea not in strength but in rage like old kratos is stronger but he is holding too much back, young Kratos donot hold back

older kratos has been through it all whereas his younger self had to learn the hard way

The difference is Older Kratos: peace ✌️ Young Kratos: NO MERCY ☠️☠️☠️

@zacharybosley1935

6 ай бұрын

A calm and reasonable Kratos knows when best to apply his strength.

@deathanimatins6470

6 ай бұрын

@@zacharybosley1935a merciless, rage filled kratos applies everything into his strength

@porkbandit1107

5 ай бұрын

Young kratos: underleveled

@zacharybosley1935

5 ай бұрын

@@deathanimatins6470 which is an excellent example of why old man Kratos would fold his younger self easily

@jamesmacaraegmorales2965

5 ай бұрын

Young Kratos would had do it with Sif while Thor's watching.

Cory has explained that Old Kratos is stronger. In the first fight Kratos was just too afraid to kill another god, ESPECIALLY someone like Odin's son while Odin was alone with Atreus. Separating them meant that if Kratos went all out and one of Odin's ravens saw it then they'd tell Odin and have him kill Atreus

@hujar5011

Жыл бұрын

That's just your headcanon, Kratos was not afraid to kill Thor in the first fight, he even outright tells Thor he'll kill him in the final segment of the battle.

@thor438

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but kratos was warning thor

@georgiancountryball202

Жыл бұрын

And if Atreus was killed expect a world shaking rage even worse and stronger then that used against Thanatos the literal death who was killed by Kratos

@burnwood1979

Жыл бұрын

Bro but odin won't kill atreus coz he needs his help to get that mask

@Mario-us5xm

Жыл бұрын

@@burnwood1979 how would Kratos have known that

Young Kratos "I can Cyclone of Chaos all day" Old Kratos "Hold up let me catch my breath so i can cyclone a again."

@Orcabubeog

5 ай бұрын

Old kratos is still stronger 😅

@Kn1ghtborne

4 ай бұрын

​@@Orcabubeog Not in gameplay so who gaf

@Orcabubeog

4 ай бұрын

@@Kn1ghtborne Debatable

@theguywholurksonyoutube7033

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kn1ghtborne You telling me they should show the real infinite speed and strength of kratos in the game so we one shot all the bosses and enemies and finish the game? That's some one punch man level shit bro.

@Kn1ghtborne

Ай бұрын

@@theguywholurksonyoutube7033 If we splice the correct runes/armor together we can instamelt hordes of enemies including heavies so it's not far off 🤷 plus the way they compensated for his speed and strength in the old games was to add more enemies. I miss fighting hordes of enemies. Fighting 4 tanky regular enemies who can deal massive damage through my runic attacks doesn't make me feel too Godly. The harpies grab can even interrupt heavy runic attacks while you're stuck in animation and even kill you because you can't move out of the way. That's a terrible design for a God. Plus if the Old gow games can be hard while giving him more speed and attacks I don't see why nerf his gameplay now if he's supposed to be stronger.

Kratos himself said that he has never had anyone hit him as hard as Thor, and Young Kratos at his peak seemed to be almost evenly matched against Zeus. Young Kratos vs Thor would be a good match up.

@dennyschay8586

5 ай бұрын

never said that

@j-dawg4774

5 ай бұрын

@@dennyschay8586 Kratos wrote down that it was the hardest he had ever been hit.

@Mrshotgun7392

5 ай бұрын

​@@dennyschay8586nigga it's literally written down in his journal in game

@masonmarlatt15

5 ай бұрын

​​@@dennyschay8586A lot of lore is in the journal my man. It's in the journal you know kratos is at his physical peak in strength and that Thor is so far his strongest opponent to date and kratos dispatches him a lot easier than zeus.

@allah-a2353

4 ай бұрын

He never said that. He said as hard as any i have ever felt. Which means its equal to the strongest hits, not stronger. Plus its been years since Kratos felt blows from Zeus, it is likely he has forgotten how painful they were and Thor’s hits were fresh, plus while fighting Zeus he was in perma spartan rage which surely makes the hits feel less powerful, meanwhile fighting thor he was chill.

I think the devs for the new games did state that older kratos is far stronger due to gods getting stronger with age but like u said Kratos has just kept that in as of now. Remember when Thor pushed Kratos just a sliver, Kratos knocked a tooth out of him

@aperson6888

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, thats true and Thor was a tank, all Kratos' punches weren't doing anything, until he hit him with that haymaker

@jeberdelgadillo6189

Жыл бұрын

Thor ate that punch too! Damn that moment really made me think just how much they can really go at it!

@2elss

Жыл бұрын

@@jeberdelgadillo6189 He ate a punch of a fraction of Kratos’ true power.

@jeberdelgadillo6189

Жыл бұрын

@@2elss I mean it was just one punch, but damn if that wasn't the biggest Haymaker I've ever seen from him!

@RememberPOGS

Жыл бұрын

You think that's where Kratos time manipulation power will come into play, because he has something like that I thought from GOW2 he huts so hard he can punch holes in timespace that's him at full power is what I'm saying, or am I mistaken and he dsnt have rhat ability

People forget that kratos in the old games is 2 feet taller than GOW4 kratos

@kratosfan30

Жыл бұрын

I hate that lol

@IRexser

Жыл бұрын

What?

@kratosfan30

Жыл бұрын

@@IRexser he got shorter

@Numeronius

Жыл бұрын

in greek saga Kratos was taller than Thor

@Schinzo__

Жыл бұрын

@@kratosfan30 as old people do

Kratos was holding back for the entire fight. The only time he didn’t pull a punch is when Thor mentioned Atreus. Young kratos would not hold back

@christophercardoza2872

5 ай бұрын

But he would be significantly weaker than older Kratos. Younger Kratos won’t have the same strength as Kratos when he punched a tooth out of Thor. And don’t show bias just because younger Kratos was more brutal. In the journals of Kratos, he wrote that the blows of Thor where the strongest hits he ever received and he later wrote that the hammer only amplified that which means Thor even without the hammer was physically more capable than any god Kratos ever faced before.

@Eren_Yeager6969

4 ай бұрын

​​@@christophercardoza2872 Read the journal again, it said as hard as the strongest blow, not the hardest.

@Eren_Yeager6969

4 ай бұрын

​​@@christophercardoza2872Don't forget that young kratos had far more hax and weapons to aid him in battle. I would recommend you to read the journal again.

@Myhaay

Ай бұрын

@@christophercardoza2872 as hard not harder, if you're gonna quote something make sure it's actually correct. he said as hard as any hit he ever felt, there is nothing to suggest thor is stronger than zeus, and kratos took quite a few haymakers from his old man.

Kratos seemed like he was fighting thor “tactically” but also cos his son was there. The old Kratos was like “fuck all, someone catching these hands. Especially a mfkn god”

Imagine young Kratos giving Thor the same beating he had given to Poseidon at GoW3

@_so1ius

9 ай бұрын

Poseidon sucked ass

@mariano8910

5 ай бұрын

It is impossible, Thor is too physically strong for that beating and would die to ,at the very least, the blade of Olympus. That guy was a real menace for the Older Kratos, his punches were the strongest thing he ever withstood, and the wound Thor kept for all the game was caused by the venom of Jormungadr.

@sanidhyasaxena8519

5 ай бұрын

Do you realise you are talking about The God Of Strength?

@mrdave1413

5 ай бұрын

Thor too wasn't at his best. He had grown so fat and lost all those muscles.

@mariano8910

5 ай бұрын

@@mrdave1413 fat does not mean weak, nobody says anything about Thor's weakening.

Two minutes silence for the BLADE OF OLYMPUS young kratos had 💀💀

@Murder_machine

Жыл бұрын

what he has now is The blade of chaos is it?

@jatinhirani2571

Жыл бұрын

​@@Murder_machine YEP..!!!

@heroofharo

5 ай бұрын

It's back baby!

Old kratos is peak strength. He holds back

mythological kratos is literally the main enforcer of ZEUS and the god of pure phtsical strenght and is also FUCKING IMMORTAL

Depends on who the player gets to play as in the fight. People seem to forget that God of War characters are primarily bound by their fate in the story. The gods were fated to be brought down by a marked warrior. Ragnnarok was fated to happen.

@peterpettigrew1627

Жыл бұрын

I like how tge Norns in Ragnarok explained that the principles of fate are directed by the nature one or many follow, and that some key events may play out in different ways, but carrying the same outcome or version of the outcome.

@derrickrushingjr1861

Жыл бұрын

I also like how they said the “god of war” will die come ragnnarok which didn’t mean kratos but who he once was👌🏾

@RossoNero1987

6 ай бұрын

​@@derrickrushingjr1861they said Kratos from Sparta will die. But yeah, that old Kratos from the past

I personally feel that it’s because of kratos’s level headed, controlled mindset that allowed him to defeat Thor. Not by beating him physically like at the end of the fight, but rather showing how his nature has changed. I bet younger kratos would’ve died like in the prophecy because he would’ve done did what was originally predicted which was to continue fighting and die by the hands of Thor. But because he changed his “nature” he had the power to change his “fate” as well. He also helped Thor change his nature as well in the end which further aided in fulfilling the prophecy predicted the fall of Asgard. Of course this is my personal theory as to why ironically younger Kratos wouldn’t beat Thor. I’m more than happy to hear anyone else’s thoughts and opinions.

@shanedsouza189

Жыл бұрын

I think this really is the correct answer. What Young Kratos lacked in raw strength, he made up in sheer force of will, madness and rage. But even then, he was in many ways fated to win. A marked warrior was destined to take down Olympus. But it was no mere one on one death match. Kratos employed the help of titans, gods and their weapons, willingly given or forcibly taken. His story did not start with the death of Olympus. He had to open Pandora's box, and unleash the power of hope, he had to turn the magic of the fates against the gods. Ultimately, he did not win because of his strength, but because of his Spartan commitment to victory. "Wars are won by those willing to sacrifice everything".. and he won against Olympus because he had nothing more to lose.

@bronsonruiz3113

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself

@jackedwards3069

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it

@FeaRDirTy

Жыл бұрын

@@shanedsouza189 young kratos absolutely did not lack raw strength 🤣. Have you actually played or read literally anything prior to 2018? This answer was cap asl kratos mopped Zeus EASILY even if you wanted to argue Thor is stronger than Zeus, it would not matter because kratos would still win even if the battle was drug out. Kratos literally cannot die

@fbi-chan6164

Жыл бұрын

My opinion that's left is just the fact younger kratos would just came back after being dead and beat the shit of Thor just BCS of the fact that shit was embarrassing

“Kratos is really only a minor deity” “⭕️”

Kratos is like Scarpion on steroids

If Kratos had his old powers Thor would of died a terrible painful death

@beansforthechowder8169

Жыл бұрын

No he most certainly wouldn’t have, all his powers are pretty much useless since Greece fell

@mando7323

Жыл бұрын

@@beansforthechowder8169He don’t have em no more unfortunately but if he did R.I.P Thor kratos younger self was OP af.

@db4517

Жыл бұрын

Nope

@sleepycat01234

Жыл бұрын

​@@beansforthechowder8169 Did you skip the word "If"?

@beansforthechowder8169

Жыл бұрын

@@sleepycat01234 No dumb ass I didn’t, but even if Kratos had his old powers they would be useless

Young Kratos this, Old Kratos That… I feel like no one understands how powerful Kratos really is.

@ghostiis5273

5 ай бұрын

True, it’s said that he’s now way stronger than how he was in his Greek days. but we’ve never really seen the full extent of his power since GOW 3. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I imagin Kratos determines if he can kills something through this twisted math . "Can my dad kill that?... he should... so since i killed my dad this should be easy"

People also have to remember that the norse gods gain more power the older they get, which is part of why Odin was so influential.

Kratos is kind of like broly or Hulk. You can't size him up, you cannot make him fear you. No matter how hard you punch, he gets enraged & instead of standing down doubles down on you. . That's how the younger version of kratos was that's a guy you would be better of not indulging in

Yall gotta realize that young kratos wont have a problem holding back lmao

@The_WIll_OF_D99

6 ай бұрын

He is still confined weaker then his older self....so yeah

@codeck4442

6 ай бұрын

Higher Existence Athena > POH Kratos > POF Zeus > Base Norse era Kratos (full power, which he never used throughout all the two Norse era games or else he would’ve accidentally killed the pantheon and the innocents around him in .01 second) > Base Olympus era Kratos > Base Olympus era Kratos (without the need of Spartan rage) = Holding back Norse era Kratos (also never used Spartan rage throughout all the two era Norse games) > Base Sisters of Fate > Base Zeus > Base Thanatos > Base Surtr > Base Odin = Base Poseidon = Base Hades > Base Cronos > Base Atlas > Base Ares >= Base Athena > Base Thor > Base Baldur > Base Jormungandr > Base Freya

@KxrbonTh30ry

6 ай бұрын

@@codeck4442 Baldur does NOT beat Jormungandr and athena doesnt beat POH kratos

@LuciferMoringstar999

6 ай бұрын

​@@codeck4442are you being serious? Because if not that list is trash. Athena over thor is crazy.

@Jefftoucheslittlekids

5 ай бұрын

@@codeck4442older kratos is physically stronger than younger kratos and is more powerful

Young kratos rage is something else

Old Kratos: "WE MUST BE *BETTER!"* Young Kratos: "I'LL BE BETTER AFTER YOU'RE DEAD!"

Young Kratos kills Thor and both learn nothing. But Old Kratos teaches him. "We must be better."

@BoyBattery

5 ай бұрын

Woo hooo kratos therapy sessions

Santa Monica said once that Kratos functions similar to the Hulk. Meaning the angrier he gets, the stronger he becomes

So in conclusion: You can be a badass all you want, but the more rage that you have held within will always win

The African reading up in class

Kratos's rage was also fueled by the death of his family that was caused by his hands due to Ares's betrayal. The fact that their death was caused by Kratos own hands also adds fuel to his hatred to Ares for practically forcing him to do it. Then he had to kill his own mother because of a curse placed on her by Zeus and he had to watch his brother who swore to protect get taken away from him again after just reuniting with him. Thor's rage is like a match incomparison to Kratos's rage and hatred which is like 10 suns put together. Kratos's rage an hatred for the gods and himself is unmatched by anyone in this series.

@robbiestafford6889

9 ай бұрын

Only Asura can compete in Rage

Kratos is more powerful now not to mention Kratos stated in his journal that Thor’s blows were “harder than any he had ever felt” then the hammer only “compounded those strikes” meaning even without Mjolnir Thor’s power was insane

@antonius.martinus

4 ай бұрын

"As hard as I ever felt" not harder...

@androkguz

3 ай бұрын

​@@antonius.martinusyeah, so he is as strong as titans. But also much more bloodthirsty than Zeus and atlas. And here, Young Kratos can't rely on greek magic such as the sword of Olympus, except for the blades. Without them, kratos has no ranged attacks while thor remains the god of thunder wielding Mjolnir. And if they fight in Greece, then fair enough, YK has the advantage.

@luker2693

13 күн бұрын

@@androkguz You bring up a point that people seem to forget or ignore. Different realms/lands have different rules, and the same applies to gods. Hence why Kratos is actually mortal and vulnerable in the Norse realms.

The thumbnail made me think this was about Grog

It's insane how they changed Thor's model, he looked so chubby and flaccid, but in the final game he looks like a powerlifter and full of muscles

Then you should also consider younger Thor which was fit and stronger who killed 90% giants by own (on the other side Zeus killed giants with the help of his brothers) . And that Thor was also not depressed, broken and not want to die.

@Vihaan8888

6 ай бұрын

Zeus killed titans 10 times the size of giants or even more with one fucking attack watch it again lmao

@kcgreen4812

5 ай бұрын

No he needed the blade of of Olympus to kill those Titans

@fvg5r396

5 ай бұрын

Then you could just say Thor needed mjolnir or however you spell it to kill the giants

I can just imagine young kratos taking the mjolnir and just smash it on Thor’s head like he did with the Barbarian king

@doomguyslayerofdemons6191

Жыл бұрын

Old Kratos has been established to be stronger than young Kratos yet he still couldn’t lift it while Thor was wielding it so I doubt that’s how it would go.

@evil63

Жыл бұрын

​@@doomguyslayerofdemons6191 because it wasn't sitting still it was always thrown at him or he was attacked with it if thrud could lift it im pretty sure kratos could unless your trying to say thrud is stronger than kratos please tell me your not

@doomguyslayerofdemons6191

Жыл бұрын

@@evil63 I know, that’s why I said when Thor was controlling it he couldn’t lift it. Edit: Kratos is absolutely stronger than Thrud. That is out of the question.

@evil63

Жыл бұрын

@@doomguyslayerofdemons6191oh ok well some people believe thrud is stronger than kratos because she lift the hammer which is stupid

@neutralGuy777

Жыл бұрын

@@doomguyslayerofdemons6191 dude that doesnt matter...young kratos is much better then old kratos....

I've always loved the description of young vs old Kratos as a powerful warrior vs an inevitable executioner

Now imagine this, Young Kratos with 2018 Kratos's power.

We thought Kratos had a difficult time fighting Thor, when in fact the enemy he was struggeling with was himself. That uncontrollable rage, that destroyed Olympus and all of Greece, that Thor caught a glimps of. I heard people say Kratos seemed weaker. I say he is stronger than ever, because he conquers the biggest monster this world has ever seen, that no other god, not even old Kratos could handle: himself.

Bro, kratos killed his family and then moved to blame the Gods. That is some messed up shit, he go that dawg in him.

@theknockoutladysaint23

Жыл бұрын

He didn't blame them Ares admitted to him having Kratos kill his family. Cause Ares thought that would make him a better warrior. The other gods just got in his way and made false promises to him.

@Numby322

Жыл бұрын

The other gods lied to him, especially Zeus. He told kratos that his brother is death but he isn't, and his brother was already filled with vengeance towards kratos so he didn't have a choice but to kill his own brother.

@vruxdrossgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@Numby322 No Chronos killed Deimos. Kratos had to kill his mom because she was cursed and told Kratos where his brother was and she turned into a monster.

@synthescyth

Жыл бұрын

Bro did u even plau GOW 1?

@ArchiRBX

Жыл бұрын

Bro fr just say cronos kill deimos

I honestly wanted Thor and Heimdall to be alive at Ragnarök. I also wanted a second Thor fight thats not during Ragnarök. The first part of the game was done amazing, but after a certain point it just gets rushed

Thor with the beer gut lmao

I know old kratos is physically stronger, but in terms of actual potential and ability to deal with any enemy in front of kratos. I'm going with Young Kratos, i dont know what would stop a fully raged out kratos with hermes boots and blade of olympus coming at you, also could deflect basically anything with the golden fleece, can also fly and a ton of powerful magic at his disposal. Blade of olympus by itself is a trump card.

@zakaria0427

Жыл бұрын

Bro...the blade of olympus would annhilate any enemy

@peraz4905

Жыл бұрын

@@zakaria0427 it really in you can still block it with you bare hand if your strong enough

@christianhenry4173

Жыл бұрын

Young Kratos had way more abilities not just weapons

@Mason-or9xg

Жыл бұрын

Old kratos would beat young kratos

@Mason-or9xg

Жыл бұрын

​@@christianhenry4173 old kratos would win

There’s a reason why Thor stopped the first fight between himself and Kratos after Kratos actually gave him a taste of his younger self and it wasn’t bc the “blood payment” was paid.

@merkingsavage6045

Жыл бұрын

Thor laughed

@BAEHELPJAYDO

Жыл бұрын

​@@merkingsavage6045 he also ran away

@merkingsavage6045

Жыл бұрын

@@BAEHELPJAYDO Bc he got what he wanted. He wanted to see the god of war and he got it. Its cringe saying he ran when all Kratos did was knock out a tooth after hed already been fighting Thor for awhile with Thor shrugging off the gut stab. All that for a drop of blood.

@obijuan26

Жыл бұрын

At that point in the story, thor wasn't allowed to kill kratos. Odin needed kratos alive so that atreus would be willing to work with him.

@punkm0nk3y2

8 ай бұрын

Thor was a lot of things but he was NEVER the type to run from a fight. Hes a norse god for fucks sake dying in battle is literally all they want.

I seem to recall Kratos stating pretty plainly in his journal that he has never been hit as hard as Thor hit him before, and that Mjolnir only compouned and boosted those strikes, meaning that even without the hammer, Thor was swinging above the weight class of any gods Kratos had fought before. This would necessarily include Zeus, whom Kratos fought on basically even terms. So if we're taking Kratos' own word for it, then no, young Kratos would likely not have been able to beat Thor.

Old kratos with spartan rage activated is just young kratos oj the regular without his version of sr

“There he is, there’s the god of war” Yeah one punch knocked out a tooth and stunned Thor, Thor ain’t surviving.

@orhandalegend

Жыл бұрын

you cant forget that Thor was SUPER into it

@enelem64

Жыл бұрын

Bro he just knocked out a tooth you're acting like he was dying

@alc4528

Жыл бұрын

@@enelem64 bruh the point is his “old self” knocked out a tooth in one punch. Now imagine this fight but now every punch is on that level because young kratos isn’t holding back.

@orhandalegend

Жыл бұрын

@@alc4528 unlikely

@alc4528

Жыл бұрын

@@orhandalegend no😂

I feel like you neglected his capacity as a general. Kratos, while hot headed, is extremely smart. He commanded the armies of Sparta, and this is evident by the puzzles he solves in the games which proves he’s more intelligent than he seems

@rakanahmed4000

8 ай бұрын

Also if it was young thor vs young kratos it would be a whole different story. Thor in his prime was op as shit but in ragnarok he was drunk all the time to the point where he forgot that thunder icey tree that he and faye created once in their fight. Because he was always drunk. And considering that thor is drunk and kratos is controlling his rage, young kratos and thor would be a much more intense fight

@punkm0nk3y2

8 ай бұрын

@@rakanahmed4000yeah dude i swear everyone forgets how washed up thor is in this game. In his prime he probably could have killed all the greek gods with about the same amount of ease

@Vihaan8888

6 ай бұрын

​@@punkm0nk3y2no proof that this wasn't his prime also Norse and Greek gods get physically stronger when they get old also being drunk won't affect as he is a brawler so him being drunk is an advantage he can't solo Greek especially zeus

@LuciferMoringstar999

6 ай бұрын

​​​@@punkm0nk3y2thats just head cannon. Nothing indicates or points to thor being past his prime or otherwise an out of shape fighter. Odin even in his old age is still feared and holds a great deal of power. Throughout the entirety of god of war 2018 mimir tells many stories of thor being a drunk way before kratos ever met him. In ragnarok he completes all of surtrs challenges in a very short time and says that if atreus beat it he shouldn't need help from him. Edit: i was playing ragnarok and Odin literally tells him he likes him better when he was a drunk.

Dude a light gust of wind from the Greek world stomps the entire Norse verse

Everyone says "Old Kratos is weaker than Young Kratos." This is true only because Old Kratos doesn't have much to be pissed about compared to Young Kratos. However, it's been confirmed that Kratos only get MORE powerful as he ages.

Gotta hand it to Kratos, he may be wiser and more restrained but he'll still take the ops any time any place, no hesitation

I could already feel what young Kratos would to do to Thor after beating Hercules like a punching machine

The developers confirmed that older kratos is the strongest version of kratos so I’m not sure if this is entirely accurate.

Isn't Kratos the literal personification of strength in Greek mythology? He would be a contender for Thor

@MouldMadeMind

Жыл бұрын

Being the personification of something doesn't mean you have all of it.

@pharaohbubbles1547

Жыл бұрын

​@@MouldMadeMind it kinda does. Look at the Endless from The Sandman for example

@KingxZangetsu

Жыл бұрын

​@@pharaohbubbles1547Then explain how Hercules,Atlas,Hermes and Thanatos lost Hercules personification and God of Strength Atlas old personification of Strength Hermes personification of speed Thanatos personification of Death

@MouldMadeMind

Жыл бұрын

@@pharaohbubbles1547 you're not very smart are you?

@pharaohbubbles1547

Жыл бұрын

@@KingxZangetsu bc they aren't personification, fully. More like aspects

Young Kratos would absolutely discombobulate tf outta thor with his rage, the Blade of Olympus, his weapons and with his magic too. I mean, who would EVER anger the great god of war, kratos himself? :'D

@enomisv9830

Жыл бұрын

Let's just ignore that 1. Older Kratos is canonical stronger than younger Kratos 2. Thor needs world spent Venom to really hurt him 3. Thor straight-up canonically killed Kratos in their first fight, and thor wasn't even going all out in that fight. 4. Mjolnir weighs enough that Older, canonically stronger, Kratos STRUGGLED to lift, and thor swings it like a fly swatter 5. Thor has centuries of experience on younger Kratos. 6. Thor hits hard enough to break the laws of physics and send things back in time.

@djangodjango5694

Жыл бұрын

@@enomisv9830 1. Yes, he's supposed to be stronger, like, he could lift more, but we don't know by how much. Zeus was oldest olympian, the strongest god with the most hax and got shit on by Kratos. 2. That venom theory doesn't make sense. It's a metal axe, not a sponge, no way it lasted from the beginning of the first game with all the enemies hit and through 2-3 years of fimblewinter which also scrapped all the axe upgrades. Chances are the devs just forgot what to do with that. 3. Kratos was also holding back severely in that fight. And when he got a little angry at Thor at the end of the fight, he immediately overpowered him and knocked a tooth out. 4. Thor's hammer is not ultra heavy like in the myth here. It could even stand on Kratos's wooden table at the first meeting. Odin and Thrudd could also lift it. Kratos was struggling because: can you lift a bowling ball? Yes, with one hand. Can you catch a bowling ball flying at you at high speed while magically accelerating towards you? 5. What experience? Genociding a people with an overpowered weapon while piss-drunk? If this was an rpg where xp is rewarded for any kill, yes, but here none of that experience will help him fight Kratos 1v1. Kratos didn't gain that much battle experience either. From GoW3 to GoW5 his experience consisted of being a loner for many years, killing giant hippo, being a loner for more years, hunting animals, and killing zombies that are only a problem so gameplay doesn't get boring. Baldur and the Valkyries are the only worthwhile experiences. 6. He didn't break the laws of physics, he splintered the world tree, a magical thing which we don't know how it works in detail. This feat doesn't even make sense in the game's context. He hit the snake (stationary object) so hard it sent him back in time? Wouldn't that mean any time Kratos and Thor hit each other (energy added together), they should splinter the world tree?

@theofficialxenos.5991

Жыл бұрын

@@enomisv9830 Bro, I KNOW. I ain't saying Young Kratos IS Stronger than older kratos, of course not. Of Course Older Kratos is stronger, wiser and intelligent. I ain't that dumb. I am just saying If Young Kratos ever went up against current Thor, than yeah he might have a chance because he can use every elemental magic, every weapon he stole from each god he disrespectfully killed and escaped hell like twice who refuses to die because he is vengeful, anger issued man (Referring to young kratos of course).

@SpiderSwag720

Жыл бұрын

@@enomisv9830 your information wasn’t even full you forgot the fact that Kratos been holding back for a while since he left Greece

@smoaky123

11 ай бұрын

@@djangodjango5694if we’re actually goin try mythology kratos goes home in boxes within 3mins so I don’t think it’s fair to play up Zeus in that way.

**Somehow grabs Mjölnir** **Proceeds to cave in Thor’s skull with it with repeated strikes**

If he had old Kratos weapons and young Kratos rage he would be unstoppable 💪

Kratos said that his powers have dwindled because they were tied to his home and now it's gone

@nbonasoro

6 ай бұрын

Kratos meant certain powers like the powers granted to him by the gods and titans in the original trilogy. He still has all his regular God powers though.

One thing I find interesting in Kratos was how far he has changed during the Heimdall fight. If it was young Kratos, he would have brutally killed him similar to Hermes. But he just choked him out instead.

@N..P..

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he strangled him. May not be as brutal but dead is dead.

@RSparrow3936

6 ай бұрын

I wanted him to beat heimdalls face into paste but if he did Heimdall wouldn't have been able to see the monster in him.

@Rjkay45

5 ай бұрын

Mimir definitely calmed him down a bit. I think a O marker would appear on top of Heimdall if not for Mimir lol.

@jcmee91

5 ай бұрын

To be fair with today's graphics they could not show that. They get away with it when it is a draugur or a troll or beast but actual people are off limits to stuff that brutal now.

Video game Kratos is basically mythology Heracles

You forgot to mention Kratos in Ragnarok actually is beginning to allow himself to slip into that rageful state that he has from his younger years. The God of War in the flesh.

Fun fact If young kratos and old kratos met, the young kratos would be looking down at the older kratos. Young kratos is 7 ft 6 and old is 6 ft 6. Idk how that works, but yeah 😂

@RememberPOGS

Жыл бұрын

6'4" I think, they made him Judges Height which in my opinion is better.

@MadMax-ix7fi

6 ай бұрын

They met in the DLC Valhalla but young Kratos was sitting on the throne

@handmfunnies

6 ай бұрын

that explains why buldur said “i thought you’d be bigger”

@LuciferMoringstar999

6 ай бұрын

​​@@handmfunniesno that doesn't. He was expecting a giant, like surtr or the other big ones. Bladur only showed up to kratos' house because they thought freya kratos' wife was there because she was a giant or jotunn.

Kratos was so angry that he fought his way out of Hades. Thor wouldn’t be able to do anything to stop him

Young kratos: i have a plan! L3 + R3

Yes, Kratos can since the guy didn't hold back.

Remember : greek gods get stronger the older they get. And thor killed old kratos before reviving him.

The only time i actually saw kratos mess up because of his anger was when he let pandora go but tbh nobody was gonna let that disrespect slide. Even though kratos was rage filled he still had control.

thor look like a deep rock galactic character

I would say battle experience plays a part as well.

Thor cant escaped that canon event

Conterpoint: Young Kratos died. He cane back, but he died.

Older kratos -- Can defeat Thor YOUNGER KRATOS -- WILL KILL THOR IN THE MOST BRUTAL WAY

The devs have stated that not only is old Kratos the strongest he's ever been in the franchise, but also that the Norse pantheon is more powerful than the Greek pantheon in the GoW universe. It kind of makes sense since the Norse gods are more reliant on brute strength and they were often revered in the context of battle, while the Greek gods are more elegant and more focused on other skills and abilities besides purely battle strength than the Norse gods due to the high value of such skills in Greek society.

@x_joel308

7 ай бұрын

bro really forgetting about the fact that freya was scared/shocked when Kratos told her about the sisters of fate 💀💀💀

@hoesficfiric7473

7 ай бұрын

Can you give me evidence where the devs said Norse gods are stronger than Greek brcaus I can't find it anywhere.

@SoupEmperor

7 ай бұрын

@@hoesficfiric7473 it's referenced in the novelization of God of War. It's stated that at the time of fighting Baldur, Baldur was the strongest being Kratos had ever faced up until that point. This is also said about Odin's spells. While it only references specific spells with regards to "most powerful of its kind that Kratos has ever felt" I think we can conclude the stronger Norse gods at least physically outclass the Greek gods (especially Thor) while Odin's magic outclasses even the Greek enchanters and spellcasters. And I honestly think that kind of makes sense. Zeus and the rest of the Olympians didn't do that much to gain more power since they're already gods. Odin, already a god, sacrificed everything to gain more knowledge and magical power. It stands to reason that the combination of godhood and an eternity of gaining more power leads to an extremely powerful god.

@hoesficfiric7473

7 ай бұрын

@@SoupEmperor k.

"I've faced many gods and killed all of them. You are neither the first nor the last" -the god of war

Old Kratos: "Boy....." Kratos: " I AM THE GOD OF WAR🤬⚔️!!!"

If I was honest, Mythos Cratos would dog walk GoW Kratos due to the fact Cratos would take him out with a single punch because he is the embodiment of strength.

@evil63

Жыл бұрын

When you don't know lore kratos

@largepinkthing8667

Жыл бұрын

@@evil63 hol’ up, THERES LORE?

@evil63

Жыл бұрын

@@largepinkthing8667 yeah you didn't know the comics the manuals the books I think more he is a lot more powerful then shown in the games in fact he would easily one shot every enemy except the gods

@vegetasbiggestopp659

Жыл бұрын

Unless mythos cratos is stronger than Zeus he’s getting stomped by Kratos

@evil63

Жыл бұрын

@@vegetasbiggestopp659 nah gow Zeus in lore is op

I like how everyone forgets that the God of War died when he first met Zeus and came back to life, thanks to his will for revenge, and Athena. So if kratos meet thor for the first time he would have killed kratos due to his experience killing more dangerous foes but also Crush Kratos head due to his hammer

@ahmaddddd100

Жыл бұрын

He drained all of his power in the blade of Olympus

@rocktheconqueror6903

Жыл бұрын

in case you forgot,he had no powers at that time

@shadow-gr4iw

Жыл бұрын

@@rocktheconqueror6903 ik that was my whole point at that time kratos didn't have powers at that time. So if thor was their it wouldn't even be a fight

@davinharris6844

Жыл бұрын

​@@shadow-gr4iw same as Thor didn't have that hammer or powers forever

@shadow-gr4iw

Жыл бұрын

@@davinharris6844 well if we're being honest we don't know how Thor is in the God of War universe or how long he had to hammer because if we speculate probably he didn't have the hammer but he did have that uncontrollable power at such a young age but had nothing to wield its power. So it could have been a fight for the ages

Kratos literally said thor punch are one of the heaviest he felt smh

Doesn't have experience of killing giant, but he has the experience of killing titans

the only reason why Thor got defeated by Kratos was because he was not sober. In the firt battle he refused to drik his bottle of mead, but in the period where the second battle went on he was drinking and unstable in himself - i hope this make sense to y'all

@RememberPOGS

Жыл бұрын

Thor or Kratos never really lost both battles between them, both times one of them chose to stop, Thor called it after pushing Kratos just a little for him to see a fraction of his power then he flew off, Then the Second Battle Kratos refuses to kill Thor even though you could say Thor was beat but until Kratos kills you, you're never really beaten by him, we saw that with Baulder, and a couple others, Kratos stopped the cycle because he knew what his actions would cause, and that is where Kratos completes his ark, he says no to causeless killing breaking the title Odin gives him earlier as "A Monster Who kills wothout cause" and Thor sees that realizes he can break the cycle too for his daughters sake, and That is what pisses off Odin because in that moment Odin has lost all power and controll over Thor his used to be Monster who Killed without cause.

@hehe_boi9181

Жыл бұрын

Not really, in the 2nd fight the difference in the power is clear

This shouldn’t even be a question. Young Kratos will mop the floor with Thor.

Old Kratos is stronger than young Kratos, he just holds back now.

Kratos is just apart of the “Too angry to die” council. Alongside Asura, The Doomslayer and Pepino.

I thought even their last fight Thor was winning but kratos won because he stopped fighting changing ragnorok.

YES....YOUNG KRATOS WOULD'VE DESTROYED THOR